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Saturday Night Open Thread: Go Broncos

BTD is still away, and I would be remiss if I didn't post this for him.

Here's an open thread, all topics welcome, Bronco-related or not.

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    Niners beat Saints. (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by caseyOR on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 07:35:11 PM EST
    That was one helluva game, right down to the wire. Harbaugh was obviously a great choice to coach San Francisco. He has master-minded an amazing turnaround for this team. They look nothing like they did the last few seasons.

    And what a game. I mean, the Saints are no slouch team.

    The neighborhood roared and groaned... (5.00 / 0) (#2)
    by Dadler on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 07:42:48 PM EST
    ...along with every play those last few minutes.  From joy, to agony, to joy again.  And yes, I guess, uh, coaches do matter.  Harbaugh has turned around every team he has head coached.  Not an accident.

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    i confess, when Davis made that last (none / 0) (#6)
    by caseyOR on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 07:51:19 PM EST
    great TD catch for SF and ran off the field in tears, I also teared up a bit. I am such sentimental softie behind this hard veneer. :-)

    Although I have now spent most of my life on the west coast, my lifelong loyalty to the Bears remains intact. That said, I've been a 49ers fan since my first football season out west (just never took to the Seahawks). It has been a long hard slog these last years. So, it is just so fabulous to see the team doing so well.

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    That was amazing -- and one (none / 0) (#10)
    by Towanda on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 07:56:57 PM EST
    of the cleanest throws and catches I've seen, to the point that it hardly looked like a catch -- Davis didn't have to reach for it but just was positioned perfectly, cradled his arms, and let that ball land like it belonged there.  A lot of practice behind that play.

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    I started as an LA Rams fan (none / 0) (#12)
    by Dadler on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 08:14:51 PM EST
    Growing up in L.A., I was a rabid Rams kid.  Then they took off to STL and I said F.U., and the Chargers became my team for all my years in SD.  But with the Niners, I get to claim an NFC team, not feeling like I'm selling my Bolts out.  But that franchise is a mess, with a coach I can't stand, and I remember well Harbaugh's first head coaching job several years back, at the University of San Diego, which he proceeded to immediately turn into the best non-scholarship D1-AA program in the country.

    Go Giants! (So we can get a home NFC Championship Game here on the peninsula).

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    And Vernon Davis is gold (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Dadler on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 08:15:17 PM EST
    Love his attitude, his game, all of it.  Glad he got a playoff winner.

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    Now Michigan fans must really be (none / 0) (#15)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 08:18:03 PM EST
    sorry he didn't go to Ann Arbor.  

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    this is his first year (none / 0) (#17)
    by nycstray on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 08:33:59 PM EST
    isn't it? iirc they kinda sucked last year along with the raiders. i wasn't expecting much from either team. today reminded me of my old niner days. if they play the giants, it will be great. i spent 20 yrs rooting against them because of my niner love :) i think it was one day last week that was the 30th anniv of " the catch". good times!

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    Yep, this is Harbaugh's first year w/SF. (none / 0) (#27)
    by caseyOR on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 09:29:53 PM EST
    Previous to coming to the 49ers, Harbaugh was the head coach at Stanford.That was another team, suffering through a long stretch of losses and irrelevance, that he brought back from the ashes.

    Safe to say, Jim Harbaugh is a d@mn good coach.

    The Raiders, OTOH, still suck.

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    Hell of a game indeed. (none / 0) (#3)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 07:46:18 PM EST
    Especially the last 5 minutes.  Defense made Breesus uncomfortable in the pocket and had great coverage on his deep options all day long.  If they'd taken advantage of all those Saints turn-overs, it wouldn't have been close.  

    The way the Bronco's are starting, I might want to watch the Niners/Saints game again!  It's going to get ugly, I have a feeling.  

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    MileHi, sweetie, (5.00 / 3) (#5)
    by Zorba on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 07:48:59 PM EST
    I'm really, really sorry to say this, but I sincerely hope that New England totally crushes Denver.  Nothing personal.   ;-)

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    I do too. (5.00 / 4) (#9)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 07:56:02 PM EST
    Even though I did enjoy the Bronco cupcakes at work on Friday, Tebow mania needs to be put down--and put down hard.  If they win today, its going to get uber insane out-of-control crazy around here.  

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    The last 5 minutes? The last minute! (none / 0) (#8)
    by Towanda on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 07:54:04 PM EST
    almost stroked me out.  Wow, what a roller coaster.

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    Game of the Year. (none / 0) (#72)
    by brodie on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 10:12:10 AM EST
    Game for the Ages.

    And the outcome affirmed my pre-game strategy of talking down my team's chances in order to improve their odds of winning.

    Second matchup:  It was close for a while, then the game started.

    Looks like the Pats are going for their 4th (?) SB win in the Bellachick-Brady era, and since it's been 4 or 5 years since they've won it all, they will be extra motivated to not miss another opportunity.  Maybe only the Ravens D can stop the Pats O, but unfortunately they still have no sure way of generating a lot of points on their own with that plodding offense they have had for a dozen years now.

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    As Jimmy Johnson famously said (none / 0) (#102)
    by MKS on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 03:17:59 PM EST
    after one game at Candlestick:  "How about them Cowboys!"

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    Joe Montana...the best of the best! (none / 0) (#109)
    by christinep on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 06:49:32 PM EST
    Oh, yes (none / 0) (#4)
    by Zorba on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 07:46:36 PM EST
    My son is a huge Niners fan, having been born in San Francisco.  He was up and down and up the whole time.  Great, great game.

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    Very happy (none / 0) (#29)
    by chrisvee on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 09:33:40 PM EST
    for David Akers.

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    Jeralyn, the headline... (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Zorba on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 07:53:48 PM EST
    It's "Saturday,"  not "Saturnday."  Unless you're going back almost two centuries.   ;-)

    Or to another planet (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Peter G on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 08:04:53 PM EST
    thanks, fixed now (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 08:15:28 PM EST
    Will you be posting your take on the odds? (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 08:18:59 PM EST
    Tebow (5.00 / 3) (#18)
    by WillieB on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 08:44:36 PM EST
    Jesus must be busy with other things,not watching football today.

    Seeing that score: My thoughts, exactly (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Towanda on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 08:59:42 PM EST
    or the parable comes to mind about Jaysus carrying us just so far, but then we gotta go the rest of the distance for ourselves.

    Or p'raps Teh Tebow has lost the powah! of prayer.

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    Tebow (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by Chuck0 on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 08:47:31 PM EST
    better start prayin' a whole lot harder. Time to realize, your god don't care about football.

    I think that (5.00 / 2) (#23)
    by Zorba on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 09:03:00 PM EST
    his god may have slightly more important things to do than worry about a football game.  ;-)

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    Tebow's got a saviour, (5.00 / 4) (#24)
    by NYShooter on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 09:11:05 PM EST
    Brady's got an arm


    42-7, and with this defensive game (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by Towanda on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 09:28:08 PM EST
    the Pats could take the Pack, with one of the worst defensive records in the league.

    What a mismatch. This is the first time that I have bothered to watch the vaunted Tebow.  I am so unimpressed.

    My husband just reminded me that (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 09:29:20 PM EST
    Jesus doesn't kick in until the 4th quarter :)

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    <smacks forehead> But, of course . . . (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by Towanda on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 09:34:51 PM EST
    as how else could it be a miraculous win?

    That's it; that's what Teh Tebow is doing:  He's going to get the Pats to run up the score to a sixty-point lead, so that the powah! of prayer! can truly be proven.

    Oh, me of little faith.

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    Jesus might be busy preparing (none / 0) (#32)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 09:38:34 PM EST
    for MLKs bday celebrations though.  Priorities, ya just can't dodge them all all the time for football :)

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    thank your hubby for the good chuckle! n/t (none / 0) (#31)
    by nycstray on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 09:36:07 PM EST
    If memory serves me right (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by NYShooter on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 09:40:10 PM EST
    I don't think the fourth quarter worked out too well for Jesus:

         
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    Nah, that was just His first half (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by Towanda on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 09:45:53 PM EST
    and then He resurrected His game.  

    Unlike Tebow.

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    arent we supposed to still be waiting (none / 0) (#67)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 07:46:00 AM EST
    for the last half?

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    A little write up about the (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 09:49:59 PM EST
    Focus on the Family commercial that played during this Bronco game.  Also says that Dobson is meeting other "Christian" leaders as they prepare to endorse Rick Santorum.  I put Christian in quotation marks to acknowledge that Dobson and his friends aren't the definition of what constitutes a Christian that I was brought up understanding.

    It's a damn shame the Focus on the Family propaganda machine finds itself so cash strapped these days.  It's just a damned shame.  And I hope they don't mind getting their supernatural a$$e$ kicked tonight as well as in the Republican primary.

    What bothers me more is that CBS (5.00 / 3) (#60)
    by Anne on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 11:12:58 PM EST
    didn't have any problem selling air time to Dobson's group - can you imagine them selling time to, say, Planned Parenthood?

    When it came on, I said to my husband, "what the hell is this?" - and as soon as I saw Focus on the Family, I said, "Well, of course - this makes all kinds of sense now."

    And what really bothers me is that when the game ended, Tim Tebow - the QB who lost in a big way - was surrounded by cameras and microphones - he was in the middle of a media scrum - while Tom Brady had maybe one camera on him.  You would have thought it was Brady who had put on one of the worst performances ever, not Tebow.

    The best part about Tebow losing is that maybe the 24/7 coverage will stop now.  Maybe.  I feel bad for my brother-in-law, who lives in Boulder, and was rooting for the Broncos.

    Now, it's Ravens/Texans; hoping for a Ravens win!  Been wearing purple all week - and the city is going nuts.

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    Christians? (5.00 / 1) (#64)
    by cal1942 on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 03:20:40 AM EST
    Those people aren't Christians, they're heretics.

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    Focus on the Family (none / 0) (#38)
    by womanwarrior on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:01:30 PM EST
    Wonder if they complied with child labor laws?  Or it doesn't apply to a religious organization that is political?  

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    I can't imagine... (none / 0) (#47)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:24:41 PM EST
    those kids have any real grasp of the concept of "ever lasting life".

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    The Tebow drinking game, it's just wrong (5.00 / 2) (#55)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:48:24 PM EST
    5. Drink every time an announcer uses any form of the word "win" to describe Tebow.

    Drink warning: High. You'll likely be feeling buzzed before kickoff.

    4. Drink every time Tebow's lack of accuracy is mentioned.

    Drink warning: Moderate. Announcers will mention it, but not as much as they mention Tebow's winning ways.

    3. Finish your beer every time Tebow points to the sky.

    Drink warning: Low. Tebow doesn't find the end zone all that often.

    2. Finish your beer every time Tebow's name is used as a verb (i.e. "Tebowed" or "Tebowing").

    Drink warning: High. New Tebow verbs are being discovered every day.

    1. If any player strikes the Tebow pose (aka Tebowing), the last person to strike the Tebow pose must finish everyone else's beer.

    Drink warning: High. It's going to happen, so you better be ready.

     

    Every time the Pats scored, I thought I (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by caseyOR on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:50:53 PM EST
    saw Tom Brady mouthing "Tebow that!"  (okay, maybe I imagined it.)

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    woot woot!!! (5.00 / 2) (#58)
    by CST on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:54:10 PM EST
    In other news, that focus on the family commercial was f*cling horrendous.  And the WRONG audience for half the fan base watching.

    The score was karma.   I'm sorry, Jesus does not approve of you exploiting kids like that.  I kind of wanted to puke.  But then the game came back on.

    Give God a break (re Tebow) (5.00 / 2) (#62)
    by observed on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 11:20:06 PM EST
    He's got his hands full choosing the GOP nominee right now, so he let his attention slip a little bit from football.
    God is actually a little bit like George Bush, you know----he can only focus on one really big project at a time.

    Stephen Colbert's (5.00 / 1) (#77)
    by CoralGables on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 10:29:50 AM EST
    "Americans For A Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow" Super PAC", supposedly now renamed "The Definitely Not Coordinating With Stephen Colbert" Super PAC has released its

    First South Carolina Ad

    Only thing worth watching on (none / 0) (#79)
    by ruffian on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 10:44:18 AM EST
    This Week anymore.

    What happened to Christiane Amanpour? G Steph back with the usual gasbags. Peggy Noonan - Ugh.

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    I wonder if Piggy (none / 0) (#80)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 11:01:15 AM EST
    will talk about how disappointed and surprised she is at Newt after calling him a walking hand grenade.

    Newt to Piggy - "you wanna see hand grenade?  Ill give you hand grenade"

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    Apparently Amanpour (none / 0) (#81)
    by brodie on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 11:41:09 AM EST
    couldn't hold Steph's ratings -- worse, they declined I read somewhere (probably HuffPo).

    Doesn't matter -- from what I saw of her show the past year, she was just continuing in the This Week tradition of hosting the usual political suspects (featuring repeat appearances by McCain and Lieberman/blue dog Dem) with the usual panel of two solid Repub conservatives, one annoying third-way centrist/Broderesque Beltway reporter, and a token liberal.

    Amanpour was a major disappointment and did nothing to shake up the tired Sunday Beltway format.

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    Santorum staffer questions whether women ... (5.00 / 1) (#85)
    by Yman on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 12:12:18 PM EST
    ... whether women should be running either church, family or government:

    "Is it Gods highest desire, that is, His biblically expressed will... to have a woman rule the institutions of the Family, the Church, and the State?"

    These people were born in the wrong century ...

    a few years ago (5.00 / 1) (#88)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 12:25:36 PM EST
    he would be quoting Bible verses condoning slavery

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    Whenever I run into this kind (none / 0) (#91)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 01:24:33 PM EST
    There's just too much material.  Men still mostly run things and look at what a phucking mess this place is anymore :)  I always remind them that their God is not my God.  Their book has been rewritten numerous times and was really thrown together by a bunch of Catholics after they stole the Old Testament from people of the Jewish faith.  Instead of Grimm's Fairy Tales, the Bible is nothing more than Grim Fairy Tales.  Grim Fairy Tales cobbled together by a bunch of men who had a fabulous goal of not even allowing the people to be able to read the MAGIC book in order to be able to more easily frighten them out of all their pocket change.  Yes, men running things has worked out fabulous.

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    Muthaeffin Giants!!!!!! (5.00 / 1) (#110)
    by vicndabx on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 06:51:12 PM EST
    Yes, I have no words and nonetheless must resort to these get the point across.

    Spankin' dat Green Bay a$$!!!!

    NFC Championship 10 minutes from my house (none / 0) (#111)
    by Dadler on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 07:00:59 PM EST
    Wahoo!!!

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    Lucky dog ya (none / 0) (#112)
    by vicndabx on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 07:17:39 PM EST
    Fanfare and all that.  Should be a great game.  SF did their thing this weekend also.  Of all the teams on the West Coast, SF is one of the faves.

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    Gonna be a fun week in The City (none / 0) (#113)
    by Dadler on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 07:18:35 PM EST
    No doubt.   ;-)

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    35 - 7 at the half (none / 0) (#19)
    by Chuck0 on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 08:46:34 PM EST


    OY. n/t (none / 0) (#21)
    by nycstray on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 08:56:17 PM EST
    TeeNOOO!!!! (none / 0) (#87)
    by smott on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 12:17:21 PM EST
    Sorry BTD. I rarely root for Darth Hoodie and the Asterisks but we're bitter here in Pgh. #1 defense is shredded, #31 D shuts'em down.

    Look for a SB between the #31 and #32 Defenses.

    Oy indeed.


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    TeeeNOOOO!!!!! (none / 0) (#89)
    by smott on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 12:26:52 PM EST
     Sorry BTD. I rarely root for Darth Hoodie and the Asterisks but we're bitter here in Pgh. Nbr1 defense is shredded, nbr31 D shuts'em down. Look for a SB between the 31 and 32 Defenses.  Oy indeed.

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    FSM thank you! (none / 0) (#28)
    by chrisvee on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 09:33:00 PM EST
    Tebow's fifteen minutes of fame is finally up. Unless he starts playing defense.  Or has a time machine.

    To be fair to Tim T, (none / 0) (#37)
    by Peter G on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 09:55:13 PM EST
    he does not appear to have the benefit of an offensive line.

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    Is he holding the ball too long again? (none / 0) (#40)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:11:25 PM EST
    I'm not in the mood to watch but he has a habit of holding the ball longer than any offensive line can hold.

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    Yes (none / 0) (#49)
    by Peter G on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:32:37 PM EST
    That's true.

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    You made me watch (none / 0) (#52)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:35:19 PM EST
    I watched the last few minutes :)

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    Ugh (none / 0) (#68)
    by chrisvee on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 08:53:05 AM EST
    Bless you for your sacrifice.

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    Wasn't Jesus (none / 0) (#71)
    by Chuck0 on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 10:06:28 AM EST
    supposed to take care of that for him?

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    The Trash Gingrich Ads (none / 0) (#36)
    by CoralGables on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 09:54:39 PM EST
    are showing in Florida during the football game. Paid for by Restore Our Future Inc (a Romney PAC).

    I just watched the HBO version of (none / 0) (#63)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 12:36:13 AM EST
    "Angels in America," wherein Gingrich is also trashed.  

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    I guess no one is watching Ms. America (none / 0) (#39)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:07:50 PM EST
    contestants are just as plastic as ever. And some really homely ones in the final 15. I can't imagine what would propel someone to subject themself to it. It's also incredibly corny and old-fashioned.

    You're missing... (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:11:31 PM EST
    ...Jon Bon Jovi being shown sitting in the Patriot's owners box!

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    is it too late to tune in? (none / 0) (#43)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:15:56 PM EST
    No. (none / 0) (#44)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:17:12 PM EST
    You might get another shot or two as the game comes to a close.

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    I just heard the news (none / 0) (#42)
    by Towanda on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:12:38 PM EST
    of the winner, and at least she does have a serious talent that takes years of difficult training.  I also actually am a few degrees removed, and word is that she is a nice person.

    So I tuned in for the last seconds, and -- ugh, I just wanted to grab some wipes, reach through the screen, and get some of the gobs of makeup off those pretty women turned plastic, indeed.

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    I don't know who won (none / 0) (#46)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:21:15 PM EST
    and I've only seen half the talent but I was embarassed for all of them. The piano player banged on it like a 3 year old and had terrible posture and a scrunched face. The first dancer looked like she couldn't decide whether she was in aerobics class or a cheerleader. The ballet dancer who pretended to be a marionette was terrible. The step dancer did the same step over and over.

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    Wow. Well, the one who won does opera (none / 0) (#51)
    by Towanda on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:34:38 PM EST
    so at least, she was not one of those.

    Interesting things that I'm finding out about her father's conviction and the domino effects: foreclosure on their home, separation of her parents, etc.

    She intends a career in family law and competed for reasons of the scholarship as well as awareness of her organization, so the reports say.

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    You might find interesting her cause (none / 0) (#45)
    by Towanda on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:17:32 PM EST
    which is for support of children of incarcerated parents -- because she was one.

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    ok it's not over here yet so (none / 0) (#53)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:35:22 PM EST
    don't tell me more. I'm glad the one from NC just got eliminated.  Ms. Tennessee had a pretty good opera only she overrolled her "r's" -- sounded more Irish than Italian. I think they saved the most talented for last since Ms. Iowa can sing too.
    Ms California looks like Betty Boop.

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    Oops, okay; don't click on the link! (n/t) (none / 0) (#57)
    by Towanda on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:51:02 PM EST
    Ok, it's over (none / 0) (#59)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 11:01:56 PM EST
    the winner didn't answer the interview question. They asked her if Ms. America should announce her politics and she answered Ms. America represents the Ms. America org and everyone. She never answered whether it was okay to state her own politics. The other candidates all answered similar questions with a real answer: yes or no.

    I can't remember her opera performance or her swimsuit, but she is one of the prettier ones.

    Glad to hear she has such a good cause. I'll go check it out.

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    That was the way to win (5.00 / 1) (#61)
    by Towanda on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 11:13:44 PM EST
    in Miss America as in politics.

    It is far from my favorite awful answer at that point, a year when Miss Michigan, who also was a music major with plans to be a teacher, had won the talent contest with a hula dance, complete with plastic grass skirt (what else could one find in Michigan)?  Girlfriend and I, getting together in middle age to relive the giggles of girldom, started drinking seriously at that point.

    Then came time for the Big Question.  Miss Michigan was asked what she would do for world peace.  Girlfriend and I line up the shots to down on this one and were rewarded with good reason to do so.

    Miss Michigan's answer?  Straight from the ad, was that she would like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony.

    And, dear reader, she won.

    However, I'm betting that girlfriend and I had  more fun that night than did Miss America.  While she kept crying, we kept laughing.  For hours.

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    Michiganders may cross the border (5.00 / 1) (#103)
    by Towanda on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 03:32:50 PM EST
    I suppose, to help collect signatures, but they better not be signing.  Have you been following all of the delaying tactics won by Walker's minions in the judiciary, in agencies, etc.?  It's awful.

    Still, the last push is on today to get to a million signatures on both petitions (getting rid of Walker only for his dimwith looey gov to get the job is not the answer) for the final filing deadline this Tuesday, and much fun is afoot.  I have friends who are participating in the caravan carrying petitions from Milwaukee to Madison then, planning decorated vehicles and much horn-tooting all the way.  Then the parties take place in Madison and all across the state (there is a website list), the "celebration rallies" that also kick off the next stage -- and I suspect that we may see the emergence of who will run against Walker.

    But my Wisconsin friends are not sanguine about the next stage, with the continued attempts to muscle in on this by the moribund state Dem party.  It will take credit, but do not believe it, as it kept trying to delay the start to work better for Obama (although the delays to come now may end up in the same place, anyway).  Example:  There also are recalls afoot again of several GOP state legislators, especially the other Scotty who is just as evil, the Fitzgerald brother who is majority leader in the state Senate.  

    The state Dem party repeatedly refused to support that recall effort and attempted to trash it, but a wonderful woman in his district got a grassroots recall campaign going, anyway, and just announced that they have sufficient signatures! but will keep going to their deadline to get that all-important cushion of extras to get through the long challenges ahead.

    Bottom line:  The state agency that certifies recalls has 31 days to do so by law, but can ask for extensions.  It did so in the recalls last summer and got 60 days.  This time, owing to one of the recent GOP-controlled judiciary rulings, the agency estimates that it will need at least 90 days, three months -- and perhaps more.

    However, even if Walker cannot be ousted and/or can delay the day, the recalls to date and those to come have halted the steamroller to the rest of his agenda.  Sadly, though, so much of it already was steamrollered through right away that it will take decades to straighten out the state.

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    Hey Jeralyn, how about (none / 0) (#78)
    by brodie on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 10:34:01 AM EST
    a 24-hour heads-up at TL next year when this contest is on again.  Haven't seen one since I was a 10 yo in the mid-sixties and a group of us boys would gather at a friend's house in front of a large Color TV, which friend's still beautiful mom had once been a contestant in that pageant.  Made for a howlingly entertaining Sat night for us kids, especially the talent segment and the Big Question part, which no matter what was asked inevitably produced the answer of World Peace, Our President, or Billy Graham.

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    Brady, in post game interview, (none / 0) (#48)
    by NYShooter on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:30:09 PM EST
    "there were things we could've done better, but it was so hot and humid.........we'll take the breaks where we can get them."

    lol

    I'm watching the highlights (none / 0) (#50)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:34:17 PM EST
    Ouch ouch and ouch for Denver.  And Tebow started running around in the pocket and OUCH.  Watching Brady nail it over and over and over again in the highlights makes me feel very small in the universe.

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    Best remark by a CBS game analyst (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by easilydistracted on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 10:02:06 AM EST
    at halftime (Dan Marino): The only way Denver comes back in this game is if Tom Brady decides to cross over and play for Denver. Double OUCH

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    Extra Humorous (none / 0) (#74)
    by CoralGables on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 10:22:41 AM EST
    in that Dan Marino holds the record for being the starting QB for the losing team of the biggest playoff loss in NFL history.

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    Heh (none / 0) (#86)
    by easilydistracted on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 12:12:27 PM EST
    For awhile there (none / 0) (#54)
    by CoralGables on Sat Jan 14, 2012 at 10:35:48 PM EST
    I thought the Pats were headed to the biggest playoff margin of victory in a playoff game but that record still rests with the Jacksonville Jags and Mark Brunell on the winning side and the Dolphins and Dan Marino on the losing side.

    Fire at mosque in Astana (none / 0) (#65)
    by observed on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 03:38:48 AM EST
    If this isn't an accident, you may read about this in the international news.
    My window looks out on a huge mosque which is under construction about 300 yards from me.
    The money for this project comes from the Saudis, who seem to be determined to outdo the government of Qatar, which also built a beautiful, but much smaller mosque here recently.
    At this moment, a lot of smoke is coming out of the roof of the mosque, and fire trucks are arriving.


    Must have been a minor fire, as the (none / 0) (#66)
    by observed on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 04:29:22 AM EST
    smoke is already clearing.

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    I watched every television series (none / 0) (#70)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 10:02:13 AM EST
    that was nominated for best television series for the golden globes.  That's a first.  I don't know who to root for, I'm stuck between Game of Thrones and Boss.

    Game of THrones (none / 0) (#73)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 10:15:44 AM EST
    has been great but I am rooting for American Horror Story

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    American Horror Story just got too (none / 0) (#75)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 10:23:54 AM EST
    damned strange upon strange in the end for me.  That program had you on the edge of the edge all the time :)  I got too tired.  Jessica Lange is a work of art though, or art at work, or something flatly profound in her role.

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    I absolutely (none / 0) (#76)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 10:26:31 AM EST
    love the two gay ghosts

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    Watching them decorate to perfection (none / 0) (#82)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 11:50:26 AM EST
    makes me tired though.  Not that I'm fault free in that area.  I think they make me feel tired trying to surpass their efforts because it is television.  Real life is supposed to be more detailed.  Potato stamping the nursery with giraffes caused me to give up hope.

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    honestly (none / 0) (#83)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 11:54:18 AM EST
    I wish I could say I think they are exaggerated.

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    That's a real b*tch about the South (5.00 / 1) (#84)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 12:02:24 PM EST
    I'm fully wine loaded, but all of my helpful friends are living underground.  During trick or treating though, we discovered our first "out" military pilot couple.  They both serve, they have a great house too in the cool Halloween neighborhood.  They loved my granddaughters' Auburn cheerleading outfits and I did make real old fashioned pom poms for them by hand.  It was a little strange in way though, because yeah...we knew they were out there but now they are really "out" there.  Being first like that always requires fearless.

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    Lysol originally a feminine hygiene product (none / 0) (#90)
    by Dadler on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 01:16:05 PM EST
    Oh, yes, I used that example (5.00 / 1) (#94)
    by Towanda on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 02:04:43 PM EST
    when I used to teach, incorporating advertising history into larger topics, and this one always was great for getting a gasp and a collective "ewwwww" from the class.

    For more on this and other oddities of advertising history, more marvelous (if also cringe-worthy) examples of adaptation as well as innovation, and  an interesting lens into 20th-century history, see Marchand's Advertising the American Dream for very readable scholarship, especially on the 1920s, and Sivulka's Soap, Sex, and Cigarettes, also very readable if less analytical and more of a standard textbook sort of overview.  

    Both have great photos of ads, too -- including the pre- and post-Lysol adaptation ads -- but a really great source for far more of this is online at Duke University, a collection that is stunning in several ways, visually and in content that makes you want to scratch you head and wonder "what were they thinking?"  And then, you realize that our grandchildren will be wondering the same about us, when they look back at the ads that make us do what we do today.

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    The landfill archaeologists... (5.00 / 1) (#99)
    by Dadler on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 02:41:27 PM EST
    ...of the next millenium will have quite a field day with our garbage and what it will say about us.

    And thanks for the info links, love that stuff. I'm actually surprised, for all my screwy and varied reading and liberal arts education, that I hadn't learned the Lysol thing.  

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    i used to have a vintage bottle (5.00 / 1) (#95)
    by nycstray on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 02:15:33 PM EST
    of that stuff including the box with that lovely info.

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    p.s. Another adaptation of Lysol (none / 0) (#98)
    by Towanda on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 02:40:15 PM EST
    was as a mouthwash.  That did not take off at all.  I cannot imagine why.

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    Lysol Red Bull (5.00 / 1) (#101)
    by Dadler on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 02:47:00 PM EST
    Get the energy boost you need, while removing soap scum and hard water buildup in your duodenum, and disinfecting everything of course.

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    the guy who made the Bain film (none / 0) (#92)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 01:25:23 PM EST
    was on the fox sunday show to defend the "inaccuracies"  and produces a hand full of sec filings that show Romney was head of Bain until 2001.  and he says he has many more.  the Romney story has always been he left in 1999.  or was it 98?

    anyway that would be that for most of the inaccuracies if true.

    that was a pretty great (none / 0) (#93)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 01:37:02 PM EST
    segment there.  the film maker shredded the republican who was just spouting talking points.
    brand new documents.  not even considering taking down the film.   you should watch it when it show up webside.

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    Gene Hackman (none / 0) (#104)
    by The Addams Family on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 05:22:35 PM EST
    was hit from behind while riding his bicycle in the Florida Keys

    it angers me that the AP article notes that Hackman was not wearing a helmet, just as it would have angered me if the AP had reported that Hackman was wearing a helmet

    as if Hackman's wearing or not wearing a helmet were the last word in his safety

    as if wearing a helmet were enough to protect a cyclist from all the aggressive, entitled, distracted, texting & cell-phone-using motorists who refuse to share the roads that everyone pays for

    & as if wearing a helmet were enough to protect a cyclist from all the debris-strewn, pothole-filled, door-zone bike lanes & other hazardous cycling infrastructure that often make taking the lane the only safe option

    btw, i do drive a car

    </rant>

    Here's my rant (none / 0) (#105)
    by CoralGables on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 05:51:12 PM EST
    why do you assume the driver was at fault?

    As for whether he was wearing a helmet, it's how things are generally reported in Florida for bikes and motorcycles. In a car accident, it will usually be noted if they were wearing seat belts.

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    actually, i said nothing at all (none / 0) (#108)
    by The Addams Family on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 06:13:52 PM EST
    in my original comment about who was at fault, so there's no need for you to rant at me

    my point was about CNN (not AP, my bad) including the information that Hackman was not wearing a helmet - i agree with you that this is how, as you say, "things are generally reported for bikes and motorcycles" in Florida (did you know that Florida has the highest number of fatal car vs. bike/motorcycle collisions in the country?) - i think such reporting is bad practice, as i said in my earlier comment - it encourages false perceptions & expectations of cyclists' safety

    as for fault, according to the Florida Highway Patrol, a Toyota Tundra pickup struck Hackman's rear tire hard enough to throw him from his bikes - i'm not aware that any charges have been filed, but where i live (California), a motorist who hits anyone from behind is generally assumed to have been driving unsafely & is charged with that, absent exceptional circumstances - we'll see if more details come out about this incident

    many times, though, cyclists who were not wearing helmets have been held to be partly responsible for collisions that were caused entirely by aggressive or otherwise unsafe driving, in circumstances when a helmet would have been of no use at all in preventing injury or death (ask someone who works in an emergency room)

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    I've always wondered if (none / 0) (#114)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 07:53:11 PM EST
    my mother, who died in a car/bicycle accident (she was on the bike) might not have survived had she been wearing a helmet.  

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    so sorry to hear that (none / 0) (#116)
    by The Addams Family on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 08:48:13 PM EST
    about your mother, oculus - that's terrible

    as for  me, i always wear a helmet if i'm going to be riding in traffic - just makes sense (not to fault your mother)

    my point, earlier, was simply this: to report that a cyclist was not wearing a helmet, while reporting virtually no other information about a car-bike accident, is implicitly to preassign blame to the cyclist while diminishing the culpability of the motorist

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    I wonder whether it is less about (none / 0) (#117)
    by Anne on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 09:03:23 PM EST
    assigning, or pre-assigning blame - to the cyclist, and more about the possibility that things like bike helmets - like seat belts - improve the chances that those involved in bike - and car - accidents, will survive them.

    I ask that because it occurred to me that when auto fatalities are reported in the paper, it is also - usually - reported whether those killed were wearing seat belts - and my reaction is not usually "guess that's what happens when you drive carelessly or recklessly," but "gosh, I wonder if they would have survived if they'd been wearing seat belts."

    Just my two cents.

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    to people of goodwill, like yourself, (none / 0) (#119)
    by The Addams Family on Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 12:28:48 AM EST
    the issue is, as you say, about whether a helmet might have saved a life

    but not everyone is a person of goodwill when it comes to the issue of cyclists on the roads, & so the question of who was or was not wearing a helmet quickly comes to stand in for the question of whether cyclists do or do not belong on the roads

    but let me clear about what i think may be an underlying issue in this discussion: most of the time -- because of ignorant, aggressive, distracted drivers in my supposedly bike-friendly city -- i choose to ride on a shared-use path in my neighborhood, & on that path the greatest danger i face is from other cyclists, the same ones who wear Spandex (& helmets, by the way) while riding way too fast in an ignorant, aggressive, unlawful manner, just the way they do when they are riding in traffic

    to return to the question of seat belts & helmets, however, it's apples & oranges - true equivalence would be between a seat belt in a car & a seat belt on a bike, or between a helmet on a bike & a helmet in a car

    when it comes to an accident between two cars, the question of seat belts arises only when someone has been thrown from a car or thrown around inside a car - nobody asks about seat belts in a low-speed rear-ender, whereas a low-speed rear-ender is enough to kill a cyclist, with or without a helmet

    & statistically speaking, there is more reason to wear a helmet while driving or riding in a car than while riding a bike

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    Very slow speed accident. We think the car (none / 0) (#118)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 09:45:55 PM EST
    she was next to at stop sign in residential neighborhood went straight when most people turned left.  Pre-helmet days.  Head injury.

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    does this mean (none / 0) (#120)
    by The Addams Family on Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 12:45:38 AM EST
    that the driver didn't stop & was never questioned?

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    Driver, a 17-yr. old did stop. As (none / 0) (#121)
    by oculus on Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 01:10:12 AM EST
    far as I know, she was not charged.  Question really was whether my mother, thinking the car would turn left after the stop, in fact rode her bike too close to the passenger side of the car.  The girl and her mother came to my father's house.  I remember them sitting in the living room.  Tough thing for a 17-yr. old to do.  But she did it.  

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    such a sad story (none / 0) (#124)
    by The Addams Family on Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 02:06:06 AM EST
    for your mother, for the girl, & for you & your family

    this was, as you say, in the pre-helmet days, & i take it that this was also in the pre-cyclist education days

    i am a cycling advocate & a cyclist educator in my community

    these days, we teach cyclists to come to a stop either behind or in front of a car at a stop sign or a stop light, for visibility, & never to ride to the right of any moving vehicle except (when it's safe to do so) in a bike lane or in an unmarked shared lane that is sufficiently wide to avoid hazardously close passing

    we also encourage our local police, with mixed success, to respect & enforce section 21202 of the California Vehicle Code, which gives cyclists the right to full use of the road, including the right to ride in the center of the lane, regardless of any marked bike lane, whenever it's "reasonably necessary" in order to

    avoid conditions (including, but not limited to, fixed or moving objects, vehicles, bicycles, pedestrians, animals, surface hazards, or substandard width lanes) that make it unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge . . . [A] "substandard width lane" is a lane that is too narrow for a bicycle and a vehicle to travel safely side by side within the lane.

    many people confuse the law's requirement for cyclists to ride as far to the right as practicable with a requirement for cyclists to ride as far to the right as possible

    your mother, like many others, may have been hugging the curb, mistakenly thinking this was the safest place for her to be

    if so, the car most likely sideswiped her; or, if the driver saw her at all, the car probably hooked your mother's handlebar with its right-side mirror & threw her from the bike

    again, i am so very sorry

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    great (none / 0) (#106)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 06:02:49 PM EST
    nbc starts golden globe coverage with no sound.  not a good sign

    and then when the sound come on (none / 0) (#107)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 06:05:03 PM EST
    we have a skinny twit blathering about how her abs look great from watching Bridesmaids to a plus size actress.

    it might be a long night.

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    Careful who you cheer for ... (none / 0) (#115)
    by Yman on Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 07:56:00 PM EST
    Two men shot for cheering 49ers in Georgia Applebees.

    SITE VIOLATOR!!! (none / 0) (#123)
    by caseyOR on Mon Jan 16, 2012 at 01:17:52 AM EST