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Posted on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 08:53:49 AM EST
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The picks:

Houston -7½ over Penn State (3 units), Georgia -3 over Michigan St. (3 units), South Carolina -3 over Nebraska (5 units), Oregon -6 over Wisconsin (3 units).

My best bet of many years was discussed weeks ago - Oklahoma State (-3) over Stanford (50 units.) Today the line is -5.

Go Gators!

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    In the world of units (5.00 / 3) (#14)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:57:45 AM EST
    I'd rather hear about BTD units over Friedman units.

    And by the way, (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by Peter G on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 05:10:08 PM EST
    GO STANFORD! (This scores me points with my wife, the alum.)

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    Excellent game so far (none / 0) (#53)
    by Peter G on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 09:22:36 PM EST
    good offense, good defense, on both sides.  21-21 at the half. Too bad the TV never shows the Stanford Band (a/k/a "Stanford Marching Unit Team") at half time; they're a hoot.

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    Your complaint (5.00 / 2) (#25)
    by CoralGables on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 02:45:45 PM EST
    is misguided. The Gator Bowl isn't a BCS Bowl. Talk to the Mountain West Conference. They're the ones with the bowl tie in for their top team to go to the Las Vegas Bowl.

    Dissing Michigan? (none / 0) (#51)
    by oculus on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 09:02:31 PM EST


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    I'll stand by mine (none / 0) (#96)
    by CoralGables on Tue Jan 03, 2012 at 10:54:19 AM EST
    Your issue with the Gator Bowl is still flawed. You're welcome to re-evaluate their choice of course, but the Gator Bowl is contracted to get the 6th choice of an SEC team and the 5th choice from the Big Ten.

    The next pick in the SEC after the Gators went to the Auto Zone Liberty Bowl (Vanderbilt). The next pick after Ohio State went to the Meineke Car Care Bowl (Northwestern). So technically you are right, the Gator Bowl had the option of choosing Vanderbilt vs Northwestern rather than Florida vs Ohio State.

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    Will the cable person show b/4 the (5.00 / 2) (#35)
    by oculus on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 06:03:04 PM EST
    end of the Rose Bowl?  

    Will the furnace repair person (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by Towanda on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 06:07:00 PM EST
    come before the end of the Rose Bowl?

    And are they both charging overtime today?

    We have so many questions. . . .

    Brrrrrrrrr.

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    That's bad. Happened here when (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by oculus on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 06:14:32 PM EST
    10 people were coming for Christmas dinner.  

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    Cable up and running for last (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by oculus on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 08:04:45 PM EST
    20 seconds of Rose Bowl.  On to Oklahoma State and Stanford.  

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    Ooops (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by Edger on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 07:36:30 PM EST
    Writing about the passage of and Obama's signing into law the Indefinite Detention sections of the 2012 NDAA along with the entire bill, Naomi Wolf has this to say...

    Perhaps Congress assumes that it will always only be 'they' who are targeted for arrest and military detention: but sadly, Parliamentary leaders are the first to face pressure, threats, arrest and even violence when the military obtains the power to make civilian arrests and hold civilians in military facilities without due process. There is no exception to this rule.

    Just as I traveled the country four years ago warning against the introduction of torture and secret prisons - and confidently offering a hundred thousand dollar reward to anyone who could name a nation that allowed torture of the 'other' that did not eventually turn this abuse on its own citizens - (confident because I knew there was no such place) - so today I warn that one cannot name a nation that gave the military the power to make civilian arrests and hold citizens in military detention, that did not almost at once turn that power almost against members of that nation's own political ruling class.

    Read the whole thing. It's worth it...
    NDAA: Congress Signed Its Own Arrest Warrants
    Naomi Wolf

    Wow, I thought I would have to (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 07:52:15 PM EST
    wait awhile before the Republicans got whittled down.  But everyone of them other than Romney and Huntsman have said something so heinous and disgusting and hate breeding in Iowa with cameras running that they have already made themselves unelectable in the general election.  Has that ever happened this fast?  All the Macaca moments are going down at the same time in Iowa.

    Funny Christmas happening (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 08:06:13 PM EST
    I asked for some new fragrances for Christmas.  My daughter and her family were at Dillards, and the woman at the perfume counters was giving them spray sticks to smell.  They chose the one they thought smelled best and suited me best.  It wasn't until they got home that they realized that they had bought me Justin Bieber.

    They have toddlers.  Driving 30 miles and going through a shopping mall with toddlers again to exchange my scent isn't happening.  They wrapped it, apologized, told me I could take it back but what sort of snob won't try some Bieber?

    I sniffed it, smelled good.....I'm wearing Justin Bieber Always.  Wore it for New Years Eve too, and even admitted to it.

    If OSU is going to win by 20 (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by domer5000 on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 10:57:23 PM EST
    they'd better get busy the last five minutes.

    38-38 (none / 0) (#57)
    by Peter G on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:10:05 PM EST
    with Stanford in possession and under a minute to go.

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    I think (none / 0) (#59)
    by domer5000 on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:11:39 PM EST
    BTD predicted OSU by 20

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    I'll take by 3 now (none / 0) (#61)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:15:58 PM EST
    Actually I'm going to hedge now and lock in a loss but not as much.

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    If the earlier be nil once you make a new one? (none / 0) (#62)
    by oculus on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:17:51 PM EST


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    No (none / 0) (#64)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:21:06 PM EST
    I'm just make a real time bet considering my current postion.

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    A make would have been better for me (none / 0) (#65)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:22:47 PM EST
    more chance of the win by more than 3.

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    So you did ok? (none / 0) (#68)
    by domer5000 on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:23:44 PM EST


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    Not now (none / 0) (#72)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:25:19 PM EST
    Goddamm review.

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    I hate this FG play (none / 0) (#74)
    by Dadler on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:26:49 PM EST


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    Hope they miss (none / 0) (#76)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:27:12 PM EST
    not really

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    I hate gambling (5.00 / 1) (#79)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:29:08 PM EST


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    liar (5.00 / 1) (#80)
    by Dadler on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:29:33 PM EST
    ;-)

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    Heh (5.00 / 1) (#82)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:32:31 PM EST
    That was pretty exciting.

    But damn, 30 units Ilost on that review.

    And effin Gundy doesn't try to get it in?

    I knew that miss by the Stanford kicker in OT would screw me.

    Truth is I totally missed this game  - Stanford should have won by 14 to 17.

    I was lucky to only lose the 20 units.

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    I just hate the play (none / 0) (#78)
    by Dadler on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:27:52 PM EST
    the snap, the hold, the kick, too many extra parts to go wrong.

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    F*****CCCCCKKK (none / 0) (#75)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:26:50 PM EST


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    Bourbon, now (5.00 / 1) (#77)
    by Dadler on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:27:15 PM EST


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    Hey, dadler, in NCAA football (none / 0) (#84)
    by oculus on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:37:19 PM EST
    first overtime, how is it decided who gets the first possession?  

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    Not Dadler, but (5.00 / 1) (#93)
    by rdandrea on Tue Jan 03, 2012 at 09:15:11 AM EST
    Coin toss.  Just like opening toss, team winning the toss gets to determine whether they want to go on offense or defense or to defend a goal.

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    Standford is -140 now on the money line (none / 0) (#63)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:20:21 PM EST
    So lousy hedge. But I hedged 20 units.

    If Okla St win by 3 - I lose 20 units.

    If Okla St win by more than 3, I win 30 units.

    If Stanford wins, I lose 30 units.

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    That's why they call it (5.00 / 1) (#58)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:10:05 PM EST
    gambling.

    Good point (none / 0) (#60)
    by domer5000 on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:12:42 PM EST


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    Had it all the way (none / 0) (#67)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:23:41 PM EST


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    Though the review could screw me (none / 0) (#69)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:24:10 PM EST


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    F*CK!!!!! (none / 0) (#71)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:24:43 PM EST


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    congratulations (none / 0) (#81)
    by Peter G on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:32:00 PM EST
    what a great game

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    I only lost 20 units? (none / 0) (#83)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:33:25 PM EST
    I guess that's better than losing 50.

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    Sorry (none / 0) (#85)
    by Peter G on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:38:14 PM EST
    I don't understand gambling. Just focused on your favoring OSU to win, while we were rooting for Stanford.

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    Wondering if the heavy betters even watch (none / 0) (#86)
    by oculus on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:42:13 PM EST
    the game--or just the betting.  

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    I guarantee you in Vegas (none / 0) (#88)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:44:00 PM EST
    they were going nuts.

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    You'll be unhappy to know (none / 0) (#90)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:50:01 PM EST
    I love Michigan tomorrow over Va Tech.

    10 units on The Victors (-3).

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    sure doom. At least both my Gator-lovin' (none / 0) (#91)
    by oculus on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:51:39 PM EST
    brother and I are both happy Ohio State lost.  

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    Heh (none / 0) (#89)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:49:05 PM EST
    No worries. We have enough degenerate commenters who feel my pain.

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    The Nittany Lions are going to be tired buckaroos (none / 0) (#1)
    by rdandrea on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 09:18:34 AM EST
    Playing both Houston and Georgia on the same day.

    Yeah (none / 0) (#2)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 09:31:49 AM EST
    Fixed.

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    Get ready for the big game (none / 0) (#3)
    by Edger on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 09:51:05 AM EST
    BRITAIN is gearing up for fighting in Syria that could be bigger and bloodier than the battle against Gaddafi.

    The Ministry of Defence is drawing up secret plans for a NATO-sponsored no-fly zone but first it needs backing from the United Nations Security Council.

    As the unrest and killings escalate in the troubled Arab state, agents from MI6 and the CIA are already in Syria assessing the situation, a security official has revealed.

    Special forces are also talking to Syrian dissident soldiers.

    They want to know about weapons and communications kit rebel forces will need if the Government decides to help.

    "MI6 and the CIA are in Syria to infiltrate and get at the truth," said the well-placed source.

    More at UK Daily Star, Jan. 1, 2011...
    Yeah. There's no dictator like a new dictator. (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by Mr Natural on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 10:25:07 PM EST
    Turnover.  The great prince yawns.

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    Then they go it alone (none / 0) (#5)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 10:10:25 AM EST
    No way the US goes in in an election year.

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    We shall see, I suppose (none / 0) (#6)
    by Edger on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 10:35:26 AM EST
    CIA is US, NATO is effectively US controlled, and it appears to be only one step in slouching towards Tehran.

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    Yes, there may not be ... (none / 0) (#10)
    by Robot Porter on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:18:30 AM EST
    U.S. "boots on the ground", but there are definitely U.S. wingtips on the ground.

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    There were reports more than two weeks ago (none / 0) (#9)
    by Edger on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:06:49 AM EST
    of US and NATO troops moved to the Jordan/Syria border. As part of Obama's "repositioning" troops out of Iraq?

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    The endless war folks ... (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Robot Porter on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:30:19 AM EST
    still seem to be debating this one.  Sure, they want another war.  But many think this might be the wrong one.

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    All of their wars are "wrong" wars (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Edger on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:51:15 AM EST
    but considering that Iran has the US surrounded in the region ;-), and considering the current nose to nose locked and loaded naval standoff between Iran and the US in the Strait of Hormuz right now, it looks to me that they are going to go, and maybe sooner than later... and the nuts at AEI are talking themselves into it....

    The biggest problem for the United States is not Iran getting a nuclear weapon and testing it, it's Iran getting a nuclear weapon and not using it. Because the second that they have one and they don't do anything bad, all of the naysayers are going to come back and say, "See, we told you Iran is a responsible power. We told you Iran wasn't getting nuclear weapons in order to use them immediately." ... And they will eventually define Iran with nuclear weapons as not a problem.

    But to do it they have to do Syria first.

    It's going to happen. The only question, as BTD noted up above, is timing. But it's already started.


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    Syria has been on ... (none / 0) (#15)
    by Robot Porter on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 01:13:41 PM EST
    the list for a long, long time.  And we've never done it.  And there's a host of reasons.

    But, suffice it to say, it hasn't been decided.  And it has nothing to do with timing or the election.  It's that a war in Syria could scupper the whole neo-con agenda.  And, like it or not, that's still the chief operating principle of U.S. foreign policy.

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    I disagree (none / 0) (#16)
    by Edger on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 01:32:14 PM EST
    I think taking out the Syrian regime and making it a US client state (a la Libya) is part of the neocon agenda.

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    There is a group that ... (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Robot Porter on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 01:51:52 PM EST
    believes that.  They haven't won the argument yet.  They may.  They're pushing hard.  But they're not there yet.

    They are having a good week.

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    Yes they are.... (none / 0) (#20)
    by Edger on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 02:16:39 PM EST
    Obama administration secretly preparing options for aiding the Syrian opposition
    thecable.foreignpolicy.com, December 28, 2011

    ...the administration does see the status quo in Syria as unsustainable. The Bashar al Assad regime is a "dead man walking," State Department official Fred Hof said this month. So the administration is now ramping up its policymaking machinery on the issue. After several weeks of having no top-level administration meetings to discuss the Syria crisis, the National Security Council (NSC) has begun an informal, quiet interagency process to create and collect options for aiding the Syrian opposition, two administration officials confirmed to The Cable.
    [snip]
    Andrew Tabler, a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, said that the administration was caught off-guard by how the opposition became militarized so quickly. The administration's message had been to urge the opposition to remain peaceful, but that ship has now sailed, he said.
    [snip]
    National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor did not respond to requests for comment.


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    Also see (none / 0) (#21)
    by Edger on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 02:19:14 PM EST
    The Jerusalem Post today, Jan. 2....

    What's Obama's Plan B after Arab League monitors?

    In the end, there is one constant, recurring theme. While the Obama administration entertains hopes that regional states would take the lead, in reality, these governments are waiting for the US to assume its traditional leadership role. Whether it's Turkey or the Arab League, everyone, one way or another, is throwing the issue back at Washington. The notion that the US can remain above the fray in Syria and still shape an outcome in line with its interests was never a realistic option.


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    Right ... (none / 0) (#26)
    by Robot Porter on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 04:13:21 PM EST
    but you're not getting the full-on propaganda push as you would if this were a go.  Those are both analytic pieces.

    When the emotional pieces start hitting the big outlets, then you'll know the wheels are truly in motion.

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    Not yet, you're right (none / 0) (#28)
    by Edger on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 04:28:56 PM EST
    But it looks like the dots are all starting to connect and the direction has been set....

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    at least (none / 0) (#98)
    by Amiss on Tue Jan 03, 2012 at 03:07:23 PM EST
    not in a way they will admit to.

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    Bowl game (none / 0) (#4)
    by fishcamp on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 10:01:59 AM EST
    Go Ducks...

    A Bowl Topic (5.00 / 1) (#97)
    by CoralGables on Tue Jan 03, 2012 at 11:46:21 AM EST
    that I can totally agree with you about. The Rose Bowl should be on ABC so everyone is able to view.

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    Well, so far (none / 0) (#34)
    by Zorba on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 06:01:42 PM EST
    it's 28-28 Ducks versus Badgers.  Good luck!

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    And now (none / 0) (#38)
    by Zorba on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 06:37:03 PM EST
    35-31, Ducks.

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    38-35 (none / 0) (#40)
    by Zorba on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 06:57:21 PM EST
    Badgers.

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    And now (5.00 / 2) (#45)
    by Zorba on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 08:02:57 PM EST
    All hail the Ducks, in their first Rose Bowl victory in 95 years!  Oregon over Wisconsin, 45-38.  

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    It's a happy day at the Duck Pond. (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by caseyOR on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 08:56:33 PM EST
    It was a great game. Both teams played hard. Had the Badgers' coach not blown that one timeout they might have been able to pull it out at the end. Of course, I am delighted Wisconsin found itself on the losing end of this game.

    Go, Ducks!

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    Congrats! (none / 0) (#50)
    by Zorba on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 08:59:08 PM EST
    And enjoy the victory!

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    Having the game on cable really sucked (none / 0) (#54)
    by caseyOR on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 09:30:47 PM EST
    for many here in Oregon. We have a huge percentage of TV viewers who do not have either cable or satellite. A couple of years ago it was around 25%. It is probably even higher now what with so many people having to forgo cable because it costs too much.

    I've never had cable. As a result i have watched many a Ducks football game on the screen of my 13 inch laptop. Today I watched at the home of friends who not only have cable, they also have a big screen television. A far cry from my laptop.

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    Santorum suggests Obama should be ... (none / 0) (#7)
    by Yman on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 10:42:02 AM EST
    ... anti-choice, because he's black.

    Sometimes I think Rick's most dogged opponents (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by Peter G on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 04:14:10 PM EST
    have not actually gone too far.

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    When I told my spouse what (5.00 / 2) (#30)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 05:00:10 PM EST
    Dan Savage had led the charge doing using the internet, my spouse at first thought that the story HAD TO BE a figment of my imagination.  He sat here and looked it up himself.

    Now he shows everyone and tells everyone what Santorum is.

    I suppose it has to do with the dynamic we live in where making war is okay, but neither one of us thought anyone went too far.  All is fair in love and war, and Rick Santorum said some of the most heinous things about people who were gay.  We feel that he deserves what he has got, this is your just desserts in the realm of hate breeding.

    Then I read what he said about Obama and insinuated about brown people in general, and it is just a pity that the name Rick already has so many slang definitions.  What is Rick's (Richard) Santorum's middle name I suppose?

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    It's "John" (5.00 / 4) (#32)
    by Zorba on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 05:12:49 PM EST
    I kid you not.  Richard John Santorum.  Too bad his nickname isn't "Dick" instead of "Rick."  I mean, "Dick" John Santorum.  How much more perfect could you get, for such a person?   ;-)

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    ewww (none / 0) (#29)
    by Edger on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 04:30:04 PM EST
    lol

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    Doesn't seem possible ... (none / 0) (#39)
    by Yman on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 06:40:27 PM EST
    ... for his most (man-on-dog)gged opponents to go too far.

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    Glad you got (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by Peter G on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 07:35:47 PM EST
    my reference.

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    Big Ten (none / 0) (#8)
    by jharp on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:02:56 AM EST
    Hmmmmm. Not much for the Big Ten these days I guess.

    I hope you are wrong yet I can't say I blame you.

    Every BIG team losing at half-time. (none / 0) (#17)
    by Natal on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 01:42:55 PM EST
    Wisky only hope.


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    Sconnies are 9th-ranked (none / 0) (#23)
    by Towanda on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 02:29:25 PM EST
    and Oregon is 6th-ranked.  Or did you mean a bigger line? :-)

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    Go Buckeyes!!!! (none / 0) (#12)
    by BTAL on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:42:43 AM EST


    PPP: Bad News for Romney (none / 0) (#19)
    by Dan the Man on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 01:57:35 PM EST
    Link

    "The Public Policy Poll included 1,340 likely Republican caucus voters, and was conducted Saturday and Sunday.  Results show Paul with 20 percent of the vote, followed closely by Romney with 19 percent and Santorum with 18 percent."

    Since conservatives/evangelicals are most likely to brave the cold to vote in the Iowa primary and the Pauldroids are fanatics, it wouldn't be surprising if Romney ended up 3rd behind Ron Paul and Rick Santorum.  Heck, that's my prediction.

    as usual (none / 0) (#22)
    by Turkana on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 02:19:46 PM EST
    if the ducks don't make too many mistakes, they win. too many fumbles and penalties and they lose.

    You've got 5G on OK State? (none / 0) (#33)
    by Dadler on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 05:25:36 PM EST
    You are a cowboy.  It must be a bigger lock than they got at the Panama Canal.  Good luck on that wager, BTD.  (And forgive me if I'm mistaken on the unit translation.)

    I didn't realize that there were any... (none / 0) (#41)
    by desertswine on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 07:34:53 PM EST
    of these guys still roaming around. I bet those people were surprised.

    The Stanford kicker... (none / 0) (#66)
    by Dadler on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:22:49 PM EST
    ...is done, put a fork in him.  He will not be able to make anything the rest of the game.  Not an FG or EP, but he won't have to, it'll be over in ten seconds.

    Told you so (none / 0) (#70)
    by Dadler on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:24:14 PM EST
    Amazing how that kind of momentum works.  And every time.  

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    ten more seconds (none / 0) (#73)
    by Dadler on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:25:36 PM EST
    i was wrong, hang on...

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    Probably "overthought," eh. Stanford (none / 0) (#87)
    by oculus on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 11:42:44 PM EST
    and all.  

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    went too conservative. (5.00 / 1) (#92)
    by womanwarrior on Tue Jan 03, 2012 at 01:30:20 AM EST
    Why would you go for a field goal when you have the best quarterback in the country and the defense is getting tired?  Good coach made a bad conservative mistake. They should have gone for a touchdown in the last regular time drive.  
    Oh, well, I am a frustrated armchair quarterback.  Sorry, BTD, I tried to send the Force.  


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    Exactly what (none / 0) (#94)
    by Peter G on Tue Jan 03, 2012 at 09:23:39 AM EST
    my wife, the true football fan (and Stanford alum), said.

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    Agree on the overly (none / 0) (#95)
    by brodie on Tue Jan 03, 2012 at 09:54:35 AM EST
    cautious play calling on that last drive.  And especially unwise to then turn the game over to a very young and inexperienced kicker who'd already missed one makeable fg . If it's fourth and goal from the two with the ball square in the middle of the field then fine, but not from much farther out than an extra point.

    Well, too many of the teams out west seem to have a fatal weakness in the kicking position.  They also need to improve on the defensive side of the ball where championships are usually won.

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    35 bowl games! (none / 0) (#99)
    by cal1942 on Tue Jan 03, 2012 at 05:11:02 PM EST
    What do you expect?  Not easy finding 70 FBS teams with over .500 record.

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