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I've got a lot of errands to run before a big TV nite: the premiere of John Grisham's The Firm, the series finale of Desperate Housewives, the season premiere of Shameless and new episodes of Pan Am and The Good Wife.

For those of you watching football or with other things on your mind, here's an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    From the Darcy Richardson Campaign (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Edger on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 04:24:38 PM EST
    Obama Campaign Fails To File Slate Of Delegates For New Hampshire Primary

    For obvious reasons, most news coverage of the 2012 New Hampshire presidential primaries focuses on the Republican contest. With rare exceptions, incumbent presidents seeking re-election enjoy a nearly insuperable advantage in their party's nomination process.

    So it's business as usual in the Granite State, with only one candidate in the Democratic running. Or maybe not quite so usual -- because that one candidate isn't President Barack Obama.

    Wait... what?

    Section 655:51 of the New Hampshire Election Code required candidates for their party's presidential nomination to submit slates of national convention delegates to the Secretary of State no later than November 18th, 2011. Only two Democrats did so, and one -- Aldous C. Tyler -- has since dropped out and endorsed the other, author and political historian Darcy Richardson.

    At first blush, that means Obama appears to have surrendered New Hampshire's national convention votes for his re-nomination.

    Unlike the incumbent Democrat, fifteen of the thirty candidates running in New Hampshire's crowded Republican primary on Tuesday, including all of the major GOP candidates, filed full or nearly complete slates of delegates and alternate delegates.

    "I'm sure this was merely an oversight by President Obama's re-election team," says Richardson. "Like a bloated bureaucracy, in a billion-dollar campaign like President Obama's -- one that's literally drenched in Wall Street money -- it's easy to imagine that the left hand doesn't always know what the right hand is doing."

    Not that he's complaining, mind you. Richardson, 56, of Jacksonville, Florida, launched his anti-war, anti-Wall-Street, pro-Occupy campaign last fall after his pleas to more well-known progressives to run -- former Labor Secretary Robert Reich topped his list -- fell on deaf ears.

    "The President has very obviously forgotten what the Democratic Party stands for," he says. "So I can't say I'm really surprised that he forgot he needs the help of real flesh-and-blood Democrats to get re-elected as well. I haven't."

    Richardson is on the Democratic primary ballot in several other states, including Missouri, Oklahoma, Louisiana and Texas and will be launching a petition drive for a spot on the Wisconsin ballot tomorrow. "I'm happy to take all the delegates he wants to leave on the table," says the long-shot challenger. "We'll be waiting to have a talk with him when he gets to Charlotte next September."



    Freudian slip? (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by NYShooter on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 04:28:42 PM EST
    "I'm sure this was merely an oversight....."

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    oh no (none / 0) (#3)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 04:39:48 PM EST
    there goes the nomination.

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    So what? (none / 0) (#69)
    by MKS on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 09:46:16 PM EST
    I just heard today that Robert Bork (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:15:30 PM EST
    is the co-chair of Romneys judicial advisory committee.   how creepy is that?

    that was pretty much my reaction (none / 0) (#27)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:32:59 PM EST
    talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel.  what next, Ollie North and Scooter Libby?

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    As Secretaries of Defense and State (none / 0) (#47)
    by Towanda on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:58:12 PM EST
    that lineup looks just about perfect.

    Bwwwaaaaaahahahahaha.

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    Woohoo, go steelers! (5.00 / 1) (#54)
    by Dr Molly on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 06:44:41 PM EST
    Tying it up!


    Sorry Dr. (none / 0) (#57)
    by NYShooter on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 07:08:44 PM EST
    Tenbow, touchdown pass in O.T.

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    Whoa, yes, what a game (none / 0) (#58)
    by Dr Molly on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 07:09:38 PM EST
    Tenbow? (none / 0) (#60)
    by NYShooter on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 07:09:43 PM EST
    c'mon, fingers!

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    just when you think we are safe from Ayn Rand (none / 0) (#4)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 04:43:33 PM EST
    On a solo outing as his father's chief surrogate here Saturday, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., left the door wide open to a presidential run in 2016 were his father, Texas Rep. Ron Paul, not to win the Republican nomination.
    "First things first is that I'm here trying to help my dad," Paul said, when asked about a possible bid. "I can't answer any questions beyond that -- other than to say that I am interested in national debate."
    The careful remarks came during a forum held at a local restaurant Saturday morning, sponsored by the Bartlett Center for Public Policy, a conservative think tank. They seemed to mark a new step in the national political career of a second generation of the Paul family -- a widely expected development.


    The Steelers (none / 0) (#5)
    by CoralGables on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 04:47:22 PM EST
    are a bit shell shocked early on by Tebow Time.

    Halftime (none / 0) (#18)
    by CoralGables on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:22:46 PM EST
    And the Steelers have to be scratching their heads as Tebow averaged 37 yards per completion in the first half. Broncos 20 Steelers 6

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    Query: other than "shotgun," how many (none / 0) (#19)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:24:57 PM EST
    types of passes are there?

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    Shotgun (none / 0) (#22)
    by CoralGables on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:30:26 PM EST
    is a formation, not a pass :)

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    You don't say! See--you are an expert. (none / 0) (#24)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:31:31 PM EST
    I'm a non gun owning pacifist (none / 0) (#26)
    by CoralGables on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:32:42 PM EST
    it's the only shotgun I know

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    Per Wiki: (none / 0) (#29)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:34:32 PM EST
    (The alignment of the players also suggests the shape of an actual shotgun).


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    Tom Landry and Roger Staubach (none / 0) (#70)
    by MKS on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 09:50:18 PM EST
    were the first to use the shotgun .....

    And Landry had earned his chops as the inventor of tht 4-3 Defense while the Defensive co-ordinator of the Giants.   Who was the Giants Offensive Coordinator at the time?  Vincent L.

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    I care not a whit about this but I just got this (none / 0) (#37)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:50:33 PM EST
    and I love it because he quotes Sully calling someone else a hypocrite:

    Is Tim Tebow a Hypocrite?
    Skye JethaniAuthor, "WITH: Reimagining The Way You Relate To God"

    . Andrew Sullivan criticized Tim Tebow saying his public prayers violate Jesus' teaching in the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5-7) where he taught his followers to pray in private:

    "And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you." (Matthew 6:5-6)

    Referencing Tebow's habit of praying during NFL games before millions of spectators, Sullivan asks "Why does a Christian publicly repudiate the God he worships?" Is Sullivan right? Is Tim Tebow actually violating the teachings of Christ with his behavior on the field? The answer is more complicated than critics of publicly practiced religion may prefer.


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    But do we really no Tebow is praying (none / 0) (#40)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:52:52 PM EST
    and to whom?  

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    I do something sort of like that (none / 0) (#46)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:57:55 PM EST
    when I have gas

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    sorry (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:58:23 PM EST
    was that an overshare?

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    I think god is a Steeler (none / 0) (#49)
    by CoralGables on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 06:00:47 PM EST
    a blown official's call taking away a fumble recovery from the Broncos gives the Steelers a huge break and they go on to score a TD.

    It gets classified as an inadvertent whistle nullifying the fumble. God has a whistle.

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    Rev Ted Haggard was a big fan of private... (none / 0) (#41)
    by Mr Natural on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:53:24 PM EST
    ... services.

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    now there (none / 0) (#43)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:55:11 PM EST
    was a christian Sully could get behind

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    Now, now, Howdy. n/t (none / 0) (#45)
    by caseyOR on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:56:02 PM EST
    I always enjoy it when someone (none / 0) (#65)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 08:13:13 PM EST
    who has never read Luke 9:16 bring up the pray in private.

    Then he took the five loaves and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he blessed them, and brake, and gave to the disciples to set before the multitude
    .

    Obviously there are at least two types of prayer and different circumstances.


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    Obviously (none / 0) (#66)
    by CoralGables on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 08:18:23 PM EST
    Tim was hungry and pointing up towards the concession stand, and praying for some nachos and a beer after a long and hard fought game.

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    Ya think? (none / 0) (#67)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 08:23:46 PM EST
    ;-0

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    Northhamptpn Abbey--worth (none / 0) (#6)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 04:48:15 PM EST
    a look?

    Downton Abbey is. (5.00 / 2) (#32)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:46:46 PM EST
    Downton Abbey (none / 0) (#50)
    by robert72 on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 06:05:34 PM EST
    was 4 episodes on PBS last spring that were wonderful - the best period drama in years. Tonight begins the first of the continuing series. It is said to be good but not as good as the first set of shows - but everyone who watched the first will be continuing it.

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    What I really want to catch is the Ab Fab (none / 0) (#73)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 11:08:53 PM EST
    reunion special, but cable package doesn't seem to include the approp. channels.

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    Same here (none / 0) (#75)
    by Zorba on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 01:24:42 PM EST
    I loved Ab Fab!  But then, I'm a real fan of British comedies (which may say something about my sense of humor, I guess).  Are You Being Served?, Monty Python, Black Adder, Fawlty Towers.......and more.  ;-)

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    sorry (none / 0) (#8)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 04:59:11 PM EST
    that was longer than I meant for it to be

    Reuters ran this the day after Iowa n/t (none / 0) (#9)
    by nycstray on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:04:24 PM EST
    Hey, stray, haven't seen you much of (none / 0) (#11)
    by caseyOR on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:09:16 PM EST
    late. How are things? Whacha been up to? I've kind of missed your anguished posts about your fantasy football team. Are you not a fantasy-owner this season?

    I just got my first seed catalog of the year in the mail. i want to grow just about everything (except turnips). If I had planned better, and if I'd had secret knowledge about how mild this winter was going to be, I'd have planted a better winter garden. I know folks here who are still eating broccoli from their gardens.

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    My female friend and I were not invited (none / 0) (#55)
    by nycstray on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 06:48:13 PM EST
    back to the league this year. We think the boys didn't like the girls winning (or not accepting their lousy a$$ trade offers because we are girls) ;) Soooo, we signed up in new leagues. I won 2 of 3 leagues and in one league, said friend and I were faced off in the championship, lol!~

    I've gotten 3 seed cats so far, and yeah, I didn't plant my winter garden right either! Who knew? I just got back from the marina with my spotty monster, 65 and sunny today. I spent yesterday trying to puppy proof the veggie beds and said monster showed me how wrong my ideas were every time I tried one :) My bok choy is still (trying) to stand up to her, but she's eaten the new lettuce/carrots/spinach/etc sprouts. We won't discuss the romps and spins through that bed . . . I'm going to start some of my spring seeds this week. That should ensure rain and freezing weather until June!

    How be you?

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    butting in to say (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by The Addams Family on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 07:09:40 PM EST
    keep her away from any onions - very dangerous - peppers too & nightshade family in general

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    Peppers are dangerous? (none / 0) (#63)
    by nycstray on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 07:16:49 PM EST
    I did not know that. Hopefully the garden will be pretty well puppy proofed soon and she'll have better, um, listening skills :P We have our first manners class together Tuesday night, that ought to be interesting {huge understatement!} . . .

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    When I first adopted my (none / 0) (#76)
    by sj on Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 06:55:26 PM EST
    beautiful boy I took him to puppy training classes.  He was (best guess) about 8 months old and sweet as all get out, but had no manners whatsoever.  As a Lab mix he was already approaching adult size and he looked like a cartoon doggie there with his puppy-sized classmates.  There was a doxie, a miniature schnauzer and a bichon.  He didn't care -- he was just happy to be with other dogs, but I felt pretty conspicuous.  

    Fortunately there was also a mastiff puppy.  By the end of the series my boy didn't look quite so out of place.  Or at least not so many people were pointing and laughing.

    Enjoy the classes.  They're great fun.  And umm... yeah... also interesting.

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    a couple after it looks like (none / 0) (#12)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:10:33 PM EST
    Not-Romney movement builds

    BY LAURIE KELLMAN
    Associated Press
    January 06, 2012

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    PAPOON for PRESIDENT... (none / 0) (#35)
    by Mr Natural on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:47:35 PM EST
    not sure what is called for (none / 0) (#42)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:53:36 PM EST
    in this campaign is more surrealism

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    I deleted it because (none / 0) (#21)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:29:37 PM EST
    of copyright issues. Please post a paragraph or so and a link, thanks.

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    sure my bad (none / 0) (#23)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:31:24 PM EST
    the whole thing is worth reading

    Not-Romney movement builds

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    if Santorum is the nominee (none / 0) (#36)
    by The Addams Family on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:48:44 PM EST
    that would cause me to buy a front lawn just so i could put a BARACK OBAMA sign on it

    * i think the GOP knows this, which is why Romney will be the nominee

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    I do maintain however (none / 0) (#39)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:52:07 PM EST
    that god has a sense of humor.  so . . .

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    Mr. Sharia Law (none / 0) (#44)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:55:17 PM EST
    Mr. Teri Schiavo. Mr. it's the fault of Boston that pedophiles roamed free in the Catholic Church. Mr. I want to ban birth control. I can understand what you are saying. If it gets to where it's Santorum or somebody else in the GOP primary, I'm going to vote in the GOP primary for somebody else. I want zero chance that Santorum is going to be sitting in the WH come 2013.


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    Looks (none / 0) (#10)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:06:41 PM EST
    like a huge struggle. Do the evangelicals have that much pull? Are they willing to lose the election 'cause if they do they are going to be persona nongrata in the GOP for quite a while.

    And Santorum is going to have issues since he's a Catholic. There are plenty of people in SC who won't vote for a Catholic either if there's going to be people voting based on religion.

    I look at my relatives who live in SC and I can see that they would not like either Santorum OR Romney. Perry had he been able to string a sentence together would have been their candidate of choice. When I was in SC over Christmas the only signs I saw were for Newt and Perry.

    I wonder if there will be a backlash against Santorum being crammed down people's throat too?

    Is Newt getting a pass from the (none / 0) (#13)
    by caseyOR on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:11:15 PM EST
    no-Catholics-allowed group because he's a convert and not a cradle-Catholic? Do evangelical voters not know Newt is now a papist?

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    if you read that thing (none / 0) (#15)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:13:41 PM EST
    from the AP it appears they have bigger fish to fry than worrying about "papists"

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#28)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:33:56 PM EST
    I really doubt that too many of them know that Newt is Catholic or think he's just Catholic by convenience. I mean do you really think that Newt cares one whit about being Catholic? I certainly don't. I think religion is just something to be used by him to get him what he wants and I guess Callista wanted him to convert so he did.

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    heck no (none / 0) (#30)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:35:30 PM EST
    its pivotal.  its how he gets forgiven for wives #s one and two and all the other stuff.

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    Gingrich repeatedly sd. last night (none / 0) (#31)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:36:32 PM EST
    he strongly supports the sacrament of marriage (between a man and a woman).  The foundation of our country, really!

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    Yeah (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:46:56 PM EST
    I heard that and he didn't sound very convincing when he was saying it. I almost laughed out loud when he said it. Newt's one conviction is Newt.

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    I was laughing. No one else seemed to be. (none / 0) (#38)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:51:22 PM EST
    Santorum seems to be (none / 0) (#14)
    by KeysDan on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:13:00 PM EST
    the child the late John Cardinal O'Connor never had, and the love child of the Reverend Pat Robertson and Governor Scott Walker; raised with the loving guidance of his godparents, Marcus Bachman and  the Rev. Ted Haggard.

    making Hannibal Lechter (none / 0) (#16)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:14:19 PM EST
    look well adjusted Im sure.

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    Romney (none / 0) (#25)
    by CoralGables on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 05:31:46 PM EST
    is pummeling the Southwest Florida coast with TV commercials last night and today.

    I just saw an excellent movie (none / 0) (#51)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 06:16:45 PM EST
    that different people had been directing me to for a while and I kept missing.  Animal Kingdom.
    no name actors except Guy Pierce who doesnt have a major role, low budget, no effects, not the kind of movie I usually get excited about but excellent excellent movie.

    An Australian movie that packs a wallop! Writer/Director David Michod delivers an unsettling look into one family's life of crime and corresponding order of things - the circle of life in the Animal Kingdom. Supposedly based on a true story, this is a tough family that you would not want as neighbors. These aren't Scorcese's smooth operators from "Casino" or "Goodfellas". No, these guys are worse.


    WOW (none / 0) (#56)
    by CoralGables on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 07:08:04 PM EST
    Just wow. Tebow does it.

    That was unbelievable. (none / 0) (#61)
    by Dr Molly on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 07:10:11 PM EST
    I wanted the Steelers, but that was great.

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    Romney is buying the nomination. . . (none / 0) (#68)
    by bison on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 08:55:29 PM EST


    thats never (none / 0) (#71)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 10:33:10 PM EST
    happened before

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    which certainly doesnt (none / 0) (#72)
    by Capt Howdy on Sun Jan 08, 2012 at 10:34:32 PM EST
    make it a good thing

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