O'MARA: Zimmerman confronted Martin, those words. Where did you get that from?

GILBREATH: That was from the fact that the two of them obviously ended up together in that dog walk area. According to one of the witnesses that we talked with, there were arguing words going on before this incident occurred. But it was between two people.

O'MARA: Which means they met. I'm just curious with the word confronted and what evidence you have to support an affidavit you want in this judge to rely on that these facts with true and you use the word confronted. And I want to know your evidence to support the word confronted if you have any.

GILBREATH: Well, it's not that I have one. I probably could have used dirty [sic; probably error for 'thirty'] words.

O'MARA: It is antagonistic word, would you agree?

GILBREATH: It could be considered that, yes.

O'MARA: Come up with words that are not antagonistic, met, came up to, spoke with.

GILBREATH: Got in physical confrontation with.

O'MARA: But you have nothing to support the confrontation suggestion, do you?

GILBREATH: I believe I answered it. I don't know how much more explanation you wish.

O'MARA: Anything you have, but you don't have any, do you?

GILBREATH: I think I've answered the question.

Just kidding, but seriously, If I lived in a gated community I wouldn't want my neighbors asking my guests/family members for evidence of their right to be there.  WTF is that about?  I guess thats why I'd never live in a gated community...the whole concept brings me down.  

Read in all cases.

In deciding whether defendant was justified in the
use of deadly force, you must judge [him] [her] by the circumstances by which [he] [she] was surrounded at the time the force was used.

The danger facing the defendant need not have been
actual; however, to justify the use of deadly force, the appearance of danger must have been so real that a reasonably cautious and prudent person under the same circumstances would have believed that the danger could be avoided only through the use of that force.

Based upon appearances, the defendant must
have actually believed that the danger was real.

He was never ordered or even suggested to return to his vehicle. He was never ordered to stay in his vehicle. The non-emergency dispatcher never even uttered the word vehicle, truck, car or suv during the entire call.

Zimmerman has never claimed he was racing back to his vehicle as soon as the dispatcher suggested he no longer need follow the suspect. O'Mara only mentioned that Zimmerman stated "he walked toward the car" in reference to what he was doing at the time of the confrontation by Martin. It was during the 4/20 hearing as you can see for yourself at around 2:40 in this clip from the hearing.

The report was taken by the emt at 7:41 pm which is 30 minutes after the shooting.

Assessment 1941 (7:41 pm)
Patient Conscious Breathing Quality Adult Normal 12-20 (respiratory rate - how fast someone is breathing  - which is normal, not panting or out of breath)
No External Hemorrhage noted; Mucuous Membrane Normal
Central Body Color Normal
Extremities Normal
Within Normal Limits - Airway, Breathing Quality, Accessory Muscle Use, Chest Rise, Radial Pulse, Skin Temp, Skin Moisture, Skin Turgor, Cap Refill, Pupil Size and Reaction.

Secondary Assessment - Injury:
Head - Laceration Hemorrhage (1 inch) Venous Occipital
Abrasion: Forehead. Pair Tenderness Hemorrhage (Capillary) Nose

Narrative
Patient - 28 year old patient is found sitting up in the back of the police car handcuffed in the custody of the SPD.
Patient states he was assaulted & his head was struck on the pavement.  

Patient's GCS = 15 - Glascow Coma Scale, a level of consciousness scale 15 is normal and he is warm and dry with normal skin color.
Patient has abrasions to his forehead + bleeding/tenderness to his nose and a small laceration to the back of his head. All injuries have minor bleeding.
Patient also denies LOC (loss of consciousness), neck/back pain, and he has + PMS (pulse motor sensory function) X 4 (in all extremities) with - paresthesia or no tingling

Beginning.

Last comment.

I was rushing yesterday to get one of our pets to the vet's on time . . .

I wish we could discuss our pets and our respective veterinary experiences, but that would be way off topic.

TM runs down Twin Trees; GZ follows by running south on the sidewalk between townhomes . . .

Why would Zimmerman make a hundred foot detour, into an area where houses would block his view of Martin?

(obviously, he would see TM run through break between town homes)

when TM spots GZ "in the back" -- he runs from the back . . .

7:20-44 -

Dee Dee: So I said 'What's going on?' He said this man is still watching him, like in a car, so he about to run from the back. So I- I told him go to his dad's house. Run to the house.

De la Rionda: Go to what?

Dee Dee: Run to his dad's house.

De la Rionda: To his dad's house.

Dee Dee: Yeah.

De la Rionda: OK.

Dee Dee:  But he said he about to run from his- um, the back, because it's more easy, he said. So next I hear, he's just running.

Zimmerman's presence would make the way dangerous rather than difficult, so 'it's more easy' seems like an odd euphemism.

traveling up Twin Trees.

GZ doesn't see TM however until he's finished with his non-emergency call.

Times in parentheses are citations to the interview linked above.

I'll call the three buildings on Twin Trees Lane the first, second, and third houses, numbering from the north. I'll call the gaps between them the first and second gaps, also numbering from the north.

The first house has five units and is 120 feet long. The other two have six units each, and are 140 feet long. The gaps are about twenty feet.

Martin runs south on Twin Trees Lane at (I assume) an ordinary speed of about ten feet per second (fps). Zimmerman pursues the long way around at over 20 fps. (Champion sprinters beat 30 fps.)

Zimmerman catches up with Martin at the first gap. Zimmerman reaches the second gap before Martin, stopping there. The wind noise on Zimmerman's police call stops about this time, about 7:12:15. Zimmerman sees Martin run past the second gap, about 7:12:20.

Zimmerman has seen Martin twice on Twin Trees Lane, but for some reason he remains in the area between the townhomes. He walks a short distance north or south of the second gap, so he can no longer see TTL. He continues talking to the dispatcher.

Martin stops running beside the third house and answers his phone. Dee Dee has been trying to reconnect for at least twenty seconds. He talks to Dee Dee about his hood and a man in a car. (7:06-27) He tells Dee Dee he is 'about to run from the back' because 'it's more easy' than running home. (7:20-40)

Martin runs north on Twin Trees Lane, past one or both of the gaps. Zimmerman is still on the phone.

Martin tells Dee Dee he 'lost' his pursuer, and is now walking instead of running because he is 'right by his father's house'. (7:50-54, 8:08-9, 8:38-9:20)

If Martin is walking on Twin Trees Lane, not concealing himself, and Zimmerman were to come through either gap to TTL, Zimmerman would see Martin regardless of which house Martin is in front of. How has Martin 'lost' Zimmerman by running one or two houses north on TTL?

Martin has given Dee Dee two explanations for not running home, at two different places. The first was that it was 'more easy' to 'run from the back'. The second was that he was 'right by his father's house'. But he was at least as close to the house, possibly closer, when he gave the first explanation as when he gave the second.

"It's something I will never get over. I had talked to my son between 2 p.m. and 3 p.m., then 12-13 hours later I found out that he was dead. He was three weeks from turning 17. I know my son was a good kid who had a future. He was very responsible. If he said he was going to the movies or to the store, I know he was doing that," Martin said.

1. Tracy knew about Trayvon's death around 2:00 and 3:00 a.m.?
   
2. Trayvon reportedly begged to go to 7-11. So when did he actually leave and why wait until later to go if he did not want to miss any of the big game? Why make his poor little non-brother wait so long for his skittles?
   
3. Why is Tracy always bringing up going to the movies? Why wasn't he or Brandy and Chad interviewed by investigators?

I won't be around tomorrow and rather than post another Zimmerman thread with nothing new to say, I'd like to have this one last until after tomorrow's hearing on the media challenges to record sealing. We only get 200 comments, and I think that hearing will generate enough to come close to filling up the thread.

The deleted off-topic comments were fine, just not in the right place and a bit distracting to those wanting to talk about Zimmerman.

Lester: In this situation, the state's saying that the statements made by the defendant are inculpatory in nature, akin to a confession. The defense is saying they're exculpatory, correct?

O'Mara: We haven't said anything yet.

Lester: I've had a chance to review them. You're gonna say they're exculpatory. I'm just letting you know. That's what you're gonna say. [Laughter.] So. There's not a whole lot of doubt about that.

RZ was present at the video taped walk thru and must have heard his son explain himself, and his movements.

I don't recall you citing a source for this, beyond 'it's been reported.'

NY Times, April 1:

The day after the shooting, George Zimmerman, according to his father, returned with at least three police officers to the Retreat at Twin Lakes, back to that grassy area where plaintive cries for help had gone unanswered. The investigators, accompanied by someone with a video camera, wanted him to re-enact the events of the night when the two strangers had stood their ground.

Mr. Zimmerman's father watched from nearby.