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Posted on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 11:32:03 AM EST
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The opening ceremony of the Olympics is today.

Yesterday, Mitt Romney easily won the Upper Class Twit Olympics:

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    Mitt the Twit (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by christinep on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 11:53:03 AM EST
    Headline in London paper, The Sun, today.

    Is this the "record" for number of gaffes by a  U.S Presidential candidate in one day?  If so, what should the dubious distinction for this diplomatic wanna-be be dubbed?  

    OR. A guide by Mitt the Plutocrat titled "New Ways To Insult Your Hosts.".

    Ego the size of all outdoors (5.00 / 3) (#2)
    by ruffian on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 12:02:54 PM EST
    I put this in yesterday's open thread this morning, but it is too funny to leave buried there...Romney face Olympic pin. They seriously issued these in 2002. He really has no one that tells him 'no', does he?

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    That can't be Mitt's likeness... (none / 0) (#11)
    by kdog on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 12:44:14 PM EST
    the hair on the pin is wavy, showing signs of movement and life.  Kinda looks like Superman.

    The pin's hair is more realistic, more human, than Mitt's.

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    Kind of has a Disney Prince look to it (none / 0) (#17)
    by ruffian on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 12:58:35 PM EST
    But they did capture the dead eyes.

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    Alpine Ibex daredevils (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by Dadler on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 12:09:27 PM EST
    My mother-in-law linked me to this. These are some very agile Ibex. And all to lick some salt. (link)

    It was fun to laugh at GWB too... (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by magster on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 12:31:06 PM EST
    ... until he (not really in 2000) won the election.

    To slightly edit Dan Fogleberg (none / 0) (#8)
    by ruffian on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 12:34:32 PM EST
    Laugh when you can, cry when you have to

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    Always fun to laugh... (none / 0) (#10)
    by kdog on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 12:42:07 PM EST
    at G-Dub, that well never ran dry, even after he was elected....twice!

    Though, I suppose, at that point the joke was on us.  But still better to laugh than cry.

    I'd never thought I'd say it, but Mitt is shaping up to be even more embarassing, even more of a joke.  At least with G-Dub there were signs of humanity...a recovering alcoholic, did the occasional line back in the day, an aw-shucks charm if that's your cup of tea...a disaster, sure, but a human disaster.  Mitt's just as embarassing, without the signs of humanity.  Strange strange strange man.  

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    Well I don't know.... (none / 0) (#32)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 01:48:25 PM EST
    the deciding test is whom would you rather have a beer with, W. or Magic Mitt?  I would rather have a beer with Mittens because then I would get two.

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    Either way you get two K.D.... (5.00 / 3) (#33)
    by kdog on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 01:55:08 PM EST
    G-Dub is on the wagon;)  

    Reminds me of a mormon joke I saw somewhere...

    "How do you keep a mormon from drinking all the  beer at your party?"

    "Invite 2 mormons."

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    W. having fun (none / 0) (#45)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 03:05:19 PM EST
    at the Olympics.

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    Kdog (none / 0) (#52)
    by Wile ECoyote on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 03:50:36 PM EST
    good joke.  Here is one claiming to be the Best Bar Joke ever.  What do ya think?  I say its funny, but not the best ever.

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    Yes, that be a good'un!!! (none / 0) (#60)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 06:54:53 PM EST


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    Started good... (none / 0) (#65)
    by kdog on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 07:55:19 PM EST
    the punchline was weak, imo.  But I've certainly heard worse;)

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    But He Would... (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 01:56:56 PM EST
    ...stick you with the tab, claiming he forgot his wallet in the Caymans.

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    kdog, since you are an ardent (none / 0) (#61)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 07:00:01 PM EST
    fan of smokeable  substances, tobacco included, would you care to comment on Obama just signing into law a bill that outlaws the use of machines that can let mix your own tobacco and then produce it "ready rolled" with filters a cartoon at a time.

    Thousands of them, costing about $35K each, were in operation nationwide.

    Now thousands of owners and employees are unemployed and the owners can't even sell them.

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    He did? (none / 0) (#64)
    by kdog on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 07:54:19 PM EST
    Obama and Congress...buncha tyrant bastards I tell ya.  Thank goodness my Native American tobacco suppliers are not bound by federal law...I'll buy the bag of machine rolled sometimes at the zez when cash is tight, 15 bucks for 200 smokes.

    There were stores with those machines in NYC, Bloomberg shut 'em down right quick...Sheriff of Nottingham sh*t.

    Don't confuse my poking fun at Romney the social misfit for support for Obama and Brand D...you know me better than that.  Neither will get my vote.

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    Neither... (none / 0) (#68)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 11:35:42 PM EST
    It isn't Romney who is taking the cig rollers...

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    Perhaps... (none / 0) (#72)
    by kdog on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 07:09:50 AM EST
    though if the bill made it through Congress it must have had GOP support, who is to say Romney wouldn't have signed it too?  Liberty doesn't have many friends.

    I know he wants to steal people's reefer and cage them, just like Obama.  

    And send my job to India, if there was a nickel in it for him;)

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    That is a justification unworthy of you. (none / 0) (#74)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 02:03:40 PM EST
    Obama signed.

    Let me see you take it from there!?

    ;-)

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    Don't follow Jim... (none / 0) (#77)
    by kdog on Mon Jul 30, 2012 at 10:49:52 AM EST
    justify what?  I called the guy a bastard for signing it.  Is it wrong to note the other bastard woulda signed it too?

    Brand D wants to save me from myself, Brand R wants to save what's left of Phillip Morris' market share from rolling machines...tell me I'm wrong.

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    The advantage of not being POTUS (none / 0) (#73)
    by Yman on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 01:40:46 PM EST
    As if Romney would veto the bill with the RYO rider ...

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    I'm not jaded by the Olympic commercialism (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by magster on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 12:47:18 PM EST
    or the excessive personal stories done by NBC of the athletes. I love the Olympics. USA USA USA. I'm even rooting for Rafalca (seeing as how the country has subsidized him, he better dance his horse's arse off for the gold or I'll want some made in the USA glue by September).

    Major thumbs up on the coop! (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by nycstray on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 01:28:17 PM EST
    and for the idea of what I could do next year to one 'wing' of the studio in my backyard :) Was trying to figure out where I could put me some hens . . .

    That's no coop... (none / 0) (#50)
    by kdog on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 03:35:48 PM EST
    that's a chicken mansion!

    And the breasts, legs, wings, and thighs will surely taste all the better for it;)

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    Olympic Symbol Factoids (none / 0) (#3)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 12:05:03 PM EST
    Wiki:

    • Designed in 1912 by Baron Pierre de Coubertin, the founder of the modern Olympic Games

    • Coubertin in 1914, 'These five rings represent the five parts of the world which now are won over to Olympism and willing to accept healthy competition. Blue stands for Europe, black for Africa, Red for America, Yellow for Asia and, green for Oceania.'

    • The ring colours with the white background stand for those colors that appeared on all the national flags of the world at that time.

    • The symbol's popularity and widespread use began during the lead-up to the 1936 Summer Olympics in Berlin.

    • The current view of the International Olympic Committee is The Olympic symbol represents the union of the five continents and the meeting of athletes from throughout the world at the Olympic Games. However, no continent is represented by any specific ring.


    Despite the wrong-turns, the mundane, disturbing (none / 0) (#6)
    by christinep on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 12:20:58 PM EST
    reality, & too many horrific wars...the goals, stated so simply through it's flag, cannot help but stir that hopeful renewal whenever the open, bright faces from the world's youthful athletes come together & the Olympic flag flies & the fire burns.  

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    OT: Rossini opera is quite long. (none / 0) (#71)
    by oculus on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 01:37:25 AM EST
    Eat dinner b/4!!!!

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    Olympic Mascots (none / 0) (#5)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 12:18:40 PM EST
    Wenlock & Mandeville

    Wiki: The mascots were created and designed by iris, a London-based creative agency. Wenlock and Mandeville are animations depicting two drops of steel from a steelworks in Bolton. They are named after the Shropshire town of Much Wenlock, which held a forerunner of the current Olympic Games, and Stoke Mandeville Hospital, a facility in Buckinghamshire that initially organised the Stoke Mandeville Games, the precursor of the Paralympic Games.

    I thought they were ridiculous at first, but they are starting to grow on me.

    thanks for the factoids (none / 0) (#9)
    by ruffian on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 12:35:40 PM EST
    I'm not quite to 'growing on me' yet, but the info helps!

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    Yikes! (none / 0) (#53)
    by sj on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 04:02:01 PM EST
    Creepy, not ridiculous!

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    Gawd, the vid's just not funny. To me, anyway. (none / 0) (#13)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 12:47:23 PM EST
    Probably was funny, though, back in the day. But the cars are cool, Jensen Healey and Jag E-type I think...

    Different strokes (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 12:48:10 PM EST
    I find it hilarious.

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    I was laughing in my cube and people had (none / 0) (#15)
    by ruffian on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 12:50:19 PM EST
    to investigate.

    Thanks for the link. Some of the Python stuff does not work for me anymore, but that one did.

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    I vote funny... (none / 0) (#20)
    by magster on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 01:07:31 PM EST
    and it wasn't even close. Jumping over a row of matchbooks? Only Monty Python.

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    I was in tears over their various attempts to (none / 0) (#22)
    by ruffian on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 01:10:13 PM EST
    cross that finish line. I guess it has to hit you in the right funny bone.

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    Ya, I don't know why it didn't work for me. (none / 0) (#23)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 01:13:17 PM EST
    Me and my kids love The Holy Grail, etc.

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    Then, again (none / 0) (#70)
    by NYShooter on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 12:43:38 AM EST
    BTD loves "the family guy"

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    Everyone who lives here loves (none / 0) (#75)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 02:37:44 PM EST
    "Family Guy" too, I must learn to love it because I have been voted down.  If there is a recording conflict I will be whipped for stopping the recording of "Family Guy" too.  They look on the history and find where I did it.

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    Fascinating photos from the 1948 London Olympics (none / 0) (#16)
    by ruffian on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 12:53:26 PM EST
    1948 London. I'm a sucker for archival photos. And black and white adds so much gravity - appropriate for the fist post-WWII Olympics. I was surprised to learn they even had them so soon - in London no less. Quite an achievement.

    Opening Ceremonies, 1896 to Present (none / 0) (#27)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 01:36:19 PM EST
    Really cool pics and who knew they had color film in 1912.

    Opening Ceremonies live feed at 3pm CST.

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    A while ago (none / 0) (#18)
    by CST on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 12:59:46 PM EST
    someone asked what voter ID law a "liberal" might support.  After reading the other thread, I thought of something I guess I wouldn't oppose - I won't say support because I don't really think it's necessary, and frankly the idea of "too many" people voting, or immigrants voting, doesn't really bother me, as they are here and at least it means they care.

    But as to one I wouldn't oppose - it would have to be a delayed law - in other words, we pass a law today, and you have say 5 years to implement it, so people would have the time to get their IDs in order.  The government would be responsible for issuing everyone free IDs, and would have to issue them to EVERYONE, the only people that don't get them are those that can be proven are not US citizens.  In other words, you don't have to prove your citizenship to get one, they have to have proof that you aren't in order to not give you one.  This would solve the no valid birth certificate issue.  Finally, there would have to be provisional ballots available for those who don't have IDs in time.

    Voting is a right, unlike driving or owning a bank account.  The government cannot infringe upon that right.  This is the only type of ID law I can think of that would accomplish that.

    National ID cards are not something (none / 0) (#44)
    by Anne on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 03:03:07 PM EST
    this liberal could or would support.  For one thing, it's saying that ultimately, the right wing is right - and they're not.  And, sadly, I think this is exactly where voter ID laws are going to take us.

    Imagine what else they will want if we agree to national ID cards...and the uses they will find for them.

    The first time you get a ticket for not being able to produce your ID on command, you will appreciate why - at least in my opinion - this is not a good idea.

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    um (none / 0) (#55)
    by sj on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 04:11:29 PM EST
    Why should a liberal ever support a reactionary idea?

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    I've got to ask (none / 0) (#19)
    by Sweet Sue on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 12:59:52 PM EST
    I don't have a horse in this race (or dressage event) because I won't vote for either President Drone or Candidate Drone On but after watching the coverage of his trip to England, I've got to ask is Romney taking a dive?

    that's one theory (5.00 / 2) (#21)
    by ruffian on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 01:08:30 PM EST
    Two more I have heard and dismissed are:
    1. he is in the early stages of dementia
    2. He has some form of Aspergers

    The one I heard and accept is that he has lived his life in such a bubble of 'yes men' he has not learned to filter his thoughts before speaking. A whole life time of people telling him he is brilliant to his face and muttering 'what an a**hole' after he leaves the room.

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    The asperberger's theory (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 01:43:28 PM EST
    which I've seen elsewhere and don't actually buy, is based on the fact that he seems oblivious to the social cues we all navigate every day.  I think that's right on the money, so to speak.  IOW, I think whatever his problem is, it's more than just privilege and entitlement.

    There's just something off-kilter there, from putting the dog on the roof of the car for an hours-long highway trip to sneering at the cookies his hosts provided at a campaign stop to the $10,000 bet to the long string of messes he's left behind him every step of the way in London.  It's just... strange.

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    He's Got a Nervous Tick (5.00 / 2) (#35)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 02:11:03 PM EST
    of some sort, on the tick scale, it's low, but he's never in rhythm when speaking, it short start/stop/start and always looks so nervous.

    But to be perfectly honest, all of it is non-sense, i don't care about any of it.  Give me a Howard Hughes, a Rain Man, if they are going to be a good President and lead the in a way I agree with, then they got my vote.  I don't really care if they make people uncomfortable or say stupid stuff or are just generally unlikeable.  Romney has far more issues then his personality or social afflictions.  

    Bush was a likeable guy, where did that get us.

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    For sure you right... (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by kdog on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 02:24:40 PM EST
    it's all superficial bullsh&t, but that's politics...that's how we pick leaders.  Sad but true. Talented leader and talented politician are two very different things.

    What baffles me is Romney surely knows the game, and yet he is absolutely terrible at it.  You'd think he'd be smart enough to know "this politics sh*t ain't for me, I'll stick grifting".  Is he that lacking in self-awareness?  

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    Ditto For His tax Returns... (none / 0) (#39)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 02:38:44 PM EST
    ...he knew four years ago he wanted the job, yet they aren't ready for public consumption.

    He just couldn't resist squeezing every cent possible, even if if meant he would be hounded relentlessly for the returns.  IOW, his greed out-weighted his political ambition, not exactly a quality we need right now, or rather not a quality 99% of us need right now.

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    Greed kills the golden goose... (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by kdog on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 02:49:08 PM EST
    and it kills political ambitions.

    Yep, he's the bad news exacta...sure to be a horrible leader, and a horrible politician.

    Obama, otoh, is a horrible leader, but a pretty damn good politician.  Nothing to cheer about, but at least he won't embarass himself and the nation when representing us abroad.  I guess that's something.

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    Ah, come on kdog (none / 0) (#63)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 07:10:11 PM EST
    Obama, otoh, is a horrible leader, but a pretty damn good politician.

    So we're supposedly so dumb we will pick a horrible leader because we think he's a good politican??

     

    Nothing to cheer about, but at least he won't embarass himself and the nation when representing us abroad.  I guess that's something.

    Huh?? The gifts?? The bowing to a Muslim prince? Apologizing every 5 seconds??

    And you think Romney did wrong by noting that he thought all was okay with the security at the Olympics when everyone was saying otherwise??

    If he had lied and said it was okay then the Demos would be pointing out all the problems that did exist and IF there was an attack he would have been ripped for not being smart enough to know an attack was possible.

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    Who said anything about voting... (5.00 / 2) (#66)
    by kdog on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 08:11:02 PM EST
    You c'mon pal...even the most partisan can surely see Obama is more comfortable around people.  Smoother, more charming, more self aware. I'm not saying it's a reason to vote for him, just stating the obvious.  

    Everybody makes gaffes, but this Romney character is in a league of his own. Politics is not his game, he should stick to making money out of money, he's damn skilled at that.  

    The only reason he got the nomination is being in the weakest GOP field in recent memory, if not ever.  

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    This comment (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 12:20:42 AM EST
    is complete nonsense start to finish.

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    How would Romney have an (none / 0) (#67)
    by observed on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 11:06:31 PM EST
    informed opinion about Olympic security??
    Also, speaking of your claim that Obama apologizes every 5 seconds---he forgot to apologize to Romney. Maybe he's learning to stand up to bullies.

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    Agree... (none / 0) (#25)
    by magster on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 01:19:57 PM EST
    He is just so out of touch by reason of his wealth/sheltering that he has no social grace.  It'd be interesting to see him go head to head against Prince Charles in a reality show testing which of them can best function in the "real" world.

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    Are you kidding? (5.00 / 2) (#28)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 01:39:32 PM EST
    Price Charles may be a royal, but as far as I've ever heard, he's got a nice common touch-- not to the extent of his and Diana's sons, but they're a completely new generation of royals.

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    All I know is I saw him try to dance at ... (none / 0) (#29)
    by magster on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 01:41:19 PM EST
    ... the LiveAid concert in 1985, and it was not pretty.

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    I can't dance, either (5.00 / 3) (#31)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 01:44:15 PM EST
    Doens't mean I'm not good at making small talk on rope lines...

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    That's an interesting theory... (none / 0) (#24)
    by kdog on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 01:14:06 PM EST
    or maybe it's a "I'll make such an arse of myself they'll forget all about my tax returns" strategy.

    I've heard some GOP spin that it is an 11th dimensional chess move, offend the UK to further appeal himself to redneck euro-haters.  I ain't buying that one bit, he's already got that demographic locked up, and playing the ugly American abroad isn't a winner with undecideds imo.

    Though the simplest explanation is usually correct...the guy just has no 99%er people skills.  Take him out of the boardroom and he don't know how to act or relate to people.

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    Florida Man Shoots Door to Door Salesman (none / 0) (#36)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 02:15:23 PM EST
    Claims he was in fear for his life to officer as he was reloading his gun while seafood salesman was dying on the ground from gunshot to the back of the head.

    LINK

    Sounds (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by CoralGables on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 02:45:34 PM EST
    like a legitimate Florida SYG to me. He's probably running out to purchase a 100 clip mag for an AR-15 as we speak for better protection.

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    A new poster boy for (5.00 / 2) (#49)
    by observed on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 03:32:06 PM EST
    2nd amendment rights? Imagine what kind of harm he might have suffered if he didn't have a gun.

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    Good thing door to door sales... (5.00 / 2) (#51)
    by kdog on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 03:40:55 PM EST
    is a dying trade, encyclopedia salesmen would be getting gunned down at an alarming rate in this heavily armed/overly fearful enviroment we've created for ourselves.

    I'm weird I guess...my doorbell rings my first thought is what I have on hand to offer the visitor to drink, not what weapon I should grab.

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    My first thought is . . . (5.00 / 1) (#54)
    by nycstray on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 04:11:21 PM EST
    what church are they from? lol!~

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    But Books... (none / 0) (#56)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 04:21:01 PM EST
    ...stop bullets, especially a good encyclopedia. What's the other guy suppose to do, throw a lobster at the paranoid gun toting idiot ?

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    Terrible in another state a (none / 0) (#40)
    by oculus on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 02:40:36 PM EST
    law enforcement in his own hotel room shot his adult son, who had knocked on the door.

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    Lighting of the Flame (none / 0) (#38)
    by CoralGables on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 02:36:37 PM EST
    The betting favorite to light the Olympic flame tonight is Dr Roger Bannister.

    For those not knowledgeable of the progression of the world record in the Mile, he was the first to break the 4 minute mark back in 1954 in Oxford.

    I was lucky enough to meet him about twenty years ago at the American Airlines Miami Mile and managed to
    tuck away some evidence for when I'm senile and don't remember

    Opening Ceremonies (none / 0) (#43)
    by CoralGables on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 03:01:28 PM EST
    are beginning right now (9:00 London Time). Not for us of course as NBC goes with tape delay, but if you want to catch a BBC airing on the internet as it happens....at least for now it's available

    HERE

    Got Anything Else... (none / 0) (#46)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 03:18:25 PM EST
    ...plug-in page is bl blocked at work.

    This really ticks me off, they show the GD wedding live at 7am, but not the Open Ceremony of the Olympics at 3pm.

    NBC should be ashamed, they are showing Beijing's open ceremonies, which were pretty cool, but how can they get away with not showing it live.  Aholes.

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    Thanks! n/t (none / 0) (#47)
    by nycstray on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 03:24:26 PM EST


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    Thanks (none / 0) (#57)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 04:24:46 PM EST
    No go, guess I will just have to be one of the chumps that watch the delayed version.

    That's it, I'll be cheering for the Brits! (none / 0) (#58)
    by nycstray on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 05:57:26 PM EST
    They got to march in to Bowie :P

    Shellie Zimmerman... (none / 0) (#59)
    by heidelja on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 06:22:48 PM EST
    ...pleads not guilty to the politcal drummed up charge of perjury.  Details here.

    "Political drummed up charge" ... (none / 0) (#76)
    by Yman on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 02:56:57 PM EST
    Should be easy to get it dismissed on motion.

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    First class coop (none / 0) (#62)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Jul 27, 2012 at 07:02:48 PM EST


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