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Christie: Romney Wishes He Could Take Back Birther Joke

I bet he does:

Chris Christie believes if Mitt Romney could re-do his recent recent birth certificate joke, he'd take it back. [...] “I think if he had to do it over again, he wouldn’t make the joke,’’ Christie told Matt Lauer on TODAY Tuesday.

I know Christie is wrong about this:

If you get a chance to talk to Governor Romney, I think he’d tell you that he wishes he could take that one back.’’

No apologies Mitt? No way.

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    Ignorance is strength.... (5.00 / 3) (#1)
    by kdog on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 01:17:05 PM EST
    apology is weakness.

    Leave the humor to the humanoids Mitt...

    And George Orwell (none / 0) (#4)
    by Zorba on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 01:21:16 PM EST
    thanks you, kdog.    ;-)

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    How many Presidents ... (none / 0) (#11)
    by Robot Porter on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 02:13:10 PM EST
    or Presidential candidates had a genuinely good sense of humor?

    JFK.  And, though it never worked for me, many seemed to appreciated Reagan's sense of humor.  Beyond that not too many.  FDR had the occasionally bon mot.  But he was no laugh riot.

    Obama has natural comic ability.  But he's never quite figured out how to harness it. Clinton was amiable but never especially funny.

    Who am I forgetting?

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    Ford? (5.00 / 2) (#13)
    by kdog on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 02:25:55 PM EST
    Physically comedic, always falling down and whatnot.

    Maybe they're all too outta touch to be funny...Romney especially.  

    Parent

    Ford (none / 0) (#32)
    by cal1942 on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 05:30:40 PM EST
    was clumsy, he wasn't trying to be funny. He didn't have the intelligence to be a wit.

    Parent
    True that, (none / 0) (#37)
    by brodie on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 05:59:06 PM EST
    but unlike his extremely uptight predecessor, he was able to laugh at himself (always a fair indication of a healthy sense of humor), as with his chuckling at Chevy Chase's brutal Jerry Ford imitation.  

    Or I assume he found it funny since he allowed his press sec'y to guest on SNL.  Nixon would have had the show's producer investigated and audited.

    LBJ and Carter also had no sense of humor; Johnson only in a nasty negative way.

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    Ford was a good sport (none / 0) (#52)
    by cal1942 on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 11:28:27 PM EST
    about the impersonations, etc.  Or at least it seemed so.

    That's the only credit I'm willing to give him.

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    Ford also had the good sense (5.00 / 2) (#53)
    by sj on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 10:20:17 AM EST
    to marry Betty Ford.  He should get credit for that.

    Parent
    Okay sj (none / 0) (#56)
    by cal1942 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 08:32:31 PM EST
    that's two.

    Parent
    Of the candidates, (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by KeysDan on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 02:31:13 PM EST
    I like Bob Dole (History buffs probably noted the reunion of three ex-presidents at a recent Washington party, Carter, Ford and Nixon--see no evil, hear no evil, and evil)  Or, Adlai Stevenson,  I am the everlasting optimist, like the guy who fell off a skyscraper, as he passed the 20 floor he was heard shouting, so far so good.  And, I do not know why we complain so much about their broken campaign promises, its the one's they keep that hurt.)    Don't know for sure, but Calvin Coolidge always struck me as a laugh-a-minute type guy.

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    Yes, among the list of books ... (none / 0) (#19)
    by Robot Porter on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 02:36:57 PM EST
    never to be written:

    "Silent Cal:  The Wit and Wisdom of Calvin Coolidge".

    The slimmest of slim volumes.

    Parent

    More like a (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by cal1942 on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 05:31:55 PM EST
    leaflet.

    Parent
    Well, with Calvin (none / 0) (#46)
    by KeysDan on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 06:55:44 PM EST
    it was quality not quantity.  His best line was "the chief business of the American people is business."   Or,  was that Romney, I do get those two guys mixed up.

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    Actually (none / 0) (#51)
    by cal1942 on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 10:48:43 PM EST
    almost the entire GOP.

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    Lincoln (5.00 / 2) (#25)
    by sj on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 03:29:36 PM EST
    He was very witty.

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    I think you've conflated (none / 0) (#40)
    by brodie on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 06:14:43 PM EST
    just having a sense of humor -- the easy ability to laugh at situations and especially at oneself, vs wit or comedic ability.

    I think Willard has a sense of humor, but it's a very socially awkward one, somewhat similar to another Gooper of privilege, Poppy Bush.  Their attempts at humor are usually clumsy, embarrassing, or work only with the prejudices or ignorance of the narrow audience in front of them.

    Others like the utterly humorless Nixon were well beyond embarrassing and clumsy -- probably b/c his mind was usually filled with so much hate and resentment and feelings of inferiority.

    Carter was usually too full of himself and his sense of self righteousness and too busy with the grim seriousness of the task at hand to ever fully develop a sense of humor.

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    Well, the contrite (5.00 / 5) (#2)
    by KeysDan on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 01:17:26 PM EST
    Mitt could make amends by releasing more tax returns.

    Ha!... (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by kdog on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 01:18:52 PM EST
    Better chance of him appearing on Def Comedy Jam K.D.:)

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    I can't look at or listen to (5.00 / 3) (#6)
    by shoephone on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 01:31:13 PM EST
    Christie. He's hideous inside and out.

    Chris Christie is ... (5.00 / 2) (#26)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 03:42:02 PM EST
    ... everyone's obnoxious and opinionated brother-in-law at the annual family reunion, the type of guy you're glad you only have to see once or twice a year.

    Parent
    More like the guy you dread seeing once or (5.00 / 2) (#27)
    by Angel on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 04:00:17 PM EST
    twice a year.

    Parent
    I have a few obnoxious men in my family (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by shoephone on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 07:07:20 PM EST
    but only two of them are Republicans and, yes, I dread having to listen to them ruining every holiday meal. Last Passover seder they both went on rants (at different ends of the table!) about how white people just don;t have rights in this country anymore. One kept moaning how poor Geo Zimmerman's life was never going to be the same. I felt compelled to point out that the dead boy's life would never be the same either, because well, he's... dead. And when the one sitting across from me started going off about how allowing blacks and whites to legally marry was never a good idea I really let him have it.

    Holidays are fun!  


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    Our family has decided to ... (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 08:05:51 PM EST
    ... set boundaries for holiday meals and family gatherings, i.e., no discussions of politics or religion. Otherwise, people such as my own right-wing, Fox News-loving uncles will monopolize discussions at the first opportunity, and it makes life very unpleasant.

    Speaking for myself, I get really tired whenever I go home to Pasadena to visit and have to listen my uncles rant about how the Mexicans are "ruining" California. It's as though they're completely oblivious to the fact that I'm married to a Latina and my daughters are Latina.

    It reached a point where my older sister refused to go to family gatherings anymore, because she said she didn't want to listen to these blowhards bait people and start arguments about politics.

    And this is what the Fox News culture has done for us. I know we're not the only family that experiences this problem.

    Parent

    for sure. (5.00 / 2) (#49)
    by womanwarrior on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 08:36:51 PM EST
    Have you figured out how it happens that people raised by the same parents can end up with half Fox News lovers and half not?  I never thought of my sibs as brainwashable, but they are not open to discussion.  

    Parent
    Propaganda is most successful ... (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 10:09:57 PM EST
    ... when it reinforces the recipients' particular worldview without them even realizing that they're being propagandized. And let's face it, that's something Fox News does very well.

    Parent
    Too funny. It is the same in my family, (none / 0) (#54)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 01:21:24 PM EST
    just reversed. My wife has two sisters who are complete moonbats and who live and breathe liberal politics and inject it into every conversation they can. My MIL has forbidden them from discussing politics during holiday meals...

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    I've never cared for (none / 0) (#43)
    by brodie on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 06:20:33 PM EST
    The Jersey Boy obnoxious tough guy personality, going back to wise guy Sinatra.

    Parent
    What's with (5.00 / 4) (#8)
    by KeysDan on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 01:55:15 PM EST
    David Brooks and his "Real Romney?"    

    I saw this (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 01:57:47 PM EST
    and was shocked to see it come from Brooks. I don't know. Maybe conservatives have had a mental breakdown from having a candidate who was from MA.

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    Really funny! (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by coigue on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 04:32:26 PM EST
    I didn't know David Brooks had it in him.

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    That was David Brooks? (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by unitron on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 05:26:16 PM EST
    Have they at long last got his medication regime straightened out?

    There are actually some good lines in there, and no detectable suck up.

    Ghost writer, maybe?

    Parent

    That's all Brooks. (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 05:59:24 PM EST
    "[H]is secret service nickname is Mannequin ..."

    Let's see if he still gets invited to all the coolest parties.

    Parent

    This makes me wonder (5.00 / 3) (#41)
    by ruffian on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 06:18:30 PM EST
    Maybe all of Brooks' work is meant to be funny. That would make a lot more sense. He is hilarious!

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    Well, I am (none / 0) (#15)
    by Zorba on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 02:31:14 PM EST
    Rolling on the floor, etc.  Wow!  Thanks for the huge laugh, KeysDan.  You owe me a new keyboard!

    Parent
    I think (none / 0) (#16)
    by jbindc on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 02:33:02 PM EST
    He's poking fun at all the stuff that's out there during this time of the "silly season".

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    That was great (none / 0) (#39)
    by Rupe on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 06:11:05 PM EST
    My favorite lines:

    "He bought a mood ring, but it remained permanently transparent."

    "He barely won the 2012 Republican primaries after a grueling nine-month campaign, running unopposed."

    Nice to see from Brooks, if unusual.

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    But Mittens can't take it back. (5.00 / 4) (#10)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 02:00:39 PM EST
    It's long since been immortalized in the ethernet for posterity.

    Therefore, the question should not be whether or not Romney would take back the statement if he could, but rather:

    (a) Why he would even offer up such a noxious comment publicly in the first place; and

    (b) If he meant it to be a joke, what exactly is it about the inherent racism of the birther movement that he supposedly finds so funny?

    Third & Fourth Question (none / 0) (#18)
    by vicndabx on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 02:34:51 PM EST
    How is one that would sow such discord qualified to govern a nation of disparate views? Is he only going to concern himself with 49% of us?

    Great leadership qualities there Mitt.

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    Question 3 (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by CoralGables on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 03:10:06 PM EST
    "Is he only going to concern himself with 49% of us?"

    ummm, we should be so lucky. I'm thinking maybe 2, 3% tops.

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    If Romney thought (none / 0) (#34)
    by cal1942 on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 05:36:51 PM EST
    the remark was funny then he's too stupid to be President.

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    Now now, that's going (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by brodie on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 06:24:35 PM EST
    too far.

    Being too stupid has never been a complete disqualifier.

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    Yup (none / 0) (#55)
    by cal1942 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 at 08:30:38 PM EST
    Sadly in recent years we've had all too many examples.

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    The other thing they're not going to be (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by Anne on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 02:42:35 PM EST
    able to take back is the GOP plank on Medicare...

    From TPM:

    "The first step is to move the two programs [Medicare and Medicaid] away from their current unsustainable defined-benefit entitlement model to a fiscally sound defined-contribution model," the draft platform reads. "While retaining the option of traditional Medicare in competition with private plans, we call for a transition to a premium-support model for Medicare, with an income-adjusted contribution toward a health plan of the enrollee's choice. This model will include private health insurance plans that provide catastrophic protection, to ensure the continuation of doctor-patient relationships."

    The esoteric language gets to the heart of the change that ends the basic structure of Medicare. Since its inception in 1965, Medicare has been a government-run insurance program that directly pays medical bills for the elderly per their needs (i.e. "defined benefit"). Republicans want to turn it into a partially privatized system that pays seniors a fixed amount to buy their own health insurance (i.e. "defined contribution").

    "Under the defined contribution approach envisaged by the Rivlin-Ryan plan [a proposal that's remarkably similar to Romney's], most of the risk of future health-care cost increases would be shifted onto the shoulders of Medicare beneficiaries," Uwe Reinhardt, a health policy expert at Princeton University, said last year. "This feature makes the proposal radical."

    The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has found that the plan will raise seniors' out-of-pocket medical expenses by thousands of dollars, a fact Democrats hasten to point out. The draft Republican platform claims that the competition among private insurance plans will lead to major cost savings, though little evidence exists to support this argument.

    This, people, is how you kill Medicare, not how you "save" it.  This is how you lower the standard of living and quality of life for people, and push more people into poverty.  This is how you make already-fat insurance companies fatter.

    What I want to know is, how many Republicans are willing to volunteer - no, pledge, because they do love them some pledges - to give up traditional Medicare and put their access to care, and the affordability of insurance, co-pays and deductibles in the hands of the people who actually think this is a good idea?  Find me some 60-something, average Republican who thinks this is a good idea.  See if they'll commit to giving up Medicare for the chance to keep paying some private insurance company for the opportunity to access care.

    Seriously, if there is one, single, redeeming plank, splinter, or even a speck of wood dust, in the GOP platform, I'll eat a bug; in the meantime, I'll just have to consider that it's a reflection of the twisted minds and cold hearts of its proponents.  As a preview of coming attractions, it's a horror show.

    And they're not going to officially release the platform language until after it's voted on; can't imagine why that would be...

    I love (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 03:02:19 PM EST
    how they are going to provide everyone with catastrophic protection which is really the same as no insurance. Why don't they just say 'die quick!'

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    Who in the living (5.00 / 2) (#23)
    by Zorba on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 03:03:48 PM EST
    he!! would ever have thought that private, for-profit insurance is the way to ensure adequate health care?  Insurance companies exist to make a profit for their owners/share-holders.  Which means that, if they approve too many pay-outs, they will not make money.
    Can using private health insurers work?  Yes, it can, if they are severely regulated and abjured from making a profit on basic health care (although it can allow them to profit on supplemental care and dental care).  It seems to work in Switzerland, for example.
    I just don't see this country regulating private health insurers, and their profits, the way Switzerland does.

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    Many retired people (5.00 / 3) (#35)
    by cal1942 on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 05:47:08 PM EST
    will be pushed beyond poverty.  They'll die prematurely.

    Those people getting along on under $1,200 per month will have to choose between eating and medical care and that's no exaggeration.

    If the GOP is really concerned about long term financing of Medicare they should propose withholding Medicare from dividend and capital gains income.

    Their aim is not to fund Medicare.  Their aim is to eliminate it because they're ideologically opposed.

    Think of how childish that is.

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    And the Not So Talked About... (none / 0) (#42)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 06:18:43 PM EST
    ...desire to go back to the gold standard.  They are voting to add it to their plank at the convention.

    Doesn't seem to phase them that all the gold in the world wouldn't cover all the dollars in circulation.  Maybe they got some alchemists working on that little issue.

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    Mitt and David Brooks on humor (5.00 / 4) (#22)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 03:02:42 PM EST
    Face it, Mitt has that locker room white guy humor, it always verges on bullying.  Then, it's up to the person who  they bullied to be a sport, be a chum, be fair and take it on the chin.  It's the same accusation they throw at feminists:  "they have no sense of humor".  No, I have lots of humor, I just don't like bullying that passes for humor.  

    Now David Brooks today tried satire and it imploded apparently in his face,  The conservatives are mad and the liberals think he switched sides.  This is another humor problem, when conservatives do satire, it sounds a great deal like what they really stand for, the ridiculous.  It  just does not work.  It loses that spark of real satire and becomes grotesque reality.  

    The Real Joke... (3.00 / 2) (#45)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 06:25:12 PM EST
    ...is that our fearless leader has mismanaged jobs so bad that Romney is actually competitive.

    I suppose Pres. Obama could ask (none / 0) (#5)
    by oculus on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 01:23:39 PM EST
    Mitt Romney during the debates, do you take back that birther joke, Mitt?  

    So Christie keeps the story going... (none / 0) (#7)
    by lilburro on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 01:36:04 PM EST
    I guess the racist joke distracts from the tax issues, at least...

    Or (none / 0) (#12)
    by CoralGables on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 02:21:46 PM EST
    Christie keeps it alive because he knows he has a better shot at the presidency down the road with a Romney loss in November. Word from Christie camp is Christie didn't want to be the VP on the ticket because he thought Romney had already lost the election.

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    We'll see (5.00 / 2) (#17)
    by Zorba on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 02:34:16 PM EST
    All I have to say is what Mr. Zorba said about Chris Christie:  "Not only can he not control what comes out of his mouth, he apparently cannot control what goes into his mouth, either."
    Nasty, but true.   ;-)

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    Romney's "joke" (none / 0) (#28)
    by Philly on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 04:19:42 PM EST
    IMO the most offensive part of Romney's birther joke was that it wasn't remotely funny.

    They're still billing (none / 0) (#31)
    by cal1942 on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 05:28:07 PM EST
    it as a "joke."  Geezuz.

    If it was a joke it was in very poor taste, but IMO it was a deliberate 'he's not an American' crack.

    Half of Mitt Romney always wants to take (none / 0) (#36)
    by ruffian on Tue Aug 28, 2012 at 05:47:16 PM EST
    back the other half of Mitt Romney. The etch a sketch is getting a workout this week.