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Obama Acceptance Speech Moved Indoors

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2012
Posted on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 02:02:40 PM EST
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The live audience capacity for President Obama's acceptance speech has just dropped from 75,000 to 15,000. The DNC has moved the speech indoors, due to weather concerns. Naysayers are claiming he couldn't fill the 70,000 seat outdoor stadium, the weather is showing only 20% chance of thunderstorms, and the real concern was hecklers.

This is what 84,000 people looked like the night of Obama's acceptance speech at the DNC convention in Denver [More..]:

There may be fewer people indoors, but it doesn't feel like it. The crowd still seems huge but you feel packed in like a sardine. Here's the DNC convention indoors at the Pepsi Center right before Caroline Kennedy took the stage:

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This is Obama addressing a rally in Denver's Civic Center Park in October, 2008

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Obama will draw the crowds no matter where he is. Outside is just more fun.

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    Yesterday... (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 02:33:18 PM EST
    ...the word was they were going outside and, "rain or shine" only severe weather would bring them in.  Today, it might rain then, move it inside.

    I would say this is due to their inability to get people in the middle of republican central.  If it were DC or Colorado, no problem.

    I don't think it would be real smart to have the speech at Bank of America stadium either.  

    They could've held the convention in ... (3.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:44:38 PM EST
    ... the president's old hometown of Honolulu. We have had beautiful weather of late, and we have a nice 50,000-seat stadium (which can seat over 60,000 in concert configuration) overlooking Pearl Harbor. You couldn't ask for better visuals than the president speaking during a gorgeous Oahu sunset, with a stunning backdrop of the Waianae Mountains, the battleship USS Missouri and the USS Arizona Memorial.

    Of course, the downside to all that is the fact that sunset in Honolulu occurs at 1:00 a.m. on the east coast this time of year -- and since almost three-quarters of the U.S. population resides east of the Mississippi River, that may have not worked too well on a Thursday night.

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    but Donald . . . (5.00 / 2) (#25)
    by The Addams Family on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:49:13 PM EST
    the convention has to take place in America . . .

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    D'oh! You're right. (none / 0) (#27)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:59:48 PM EST
    My bad.

    Long time no see. How's life in Oakland?

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    life in Oakland is fine (none / 0) (#52)
    by The Addams Family on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 06:56:05 PM EST
    (as life in Oakland goes) - busy though - thanks for asking

    to Maui in 2 weeks! love journeying to furrin lands

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    Good to "see" you (none / 0) (#39)
    by sj on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 05:26:16 PM EST
    I've been wondering where you were.

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    hi there (5.00 / 1) (#53)
    by The Addams Family on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 06:57:08 PM EST
    been very busy so not posting & not even lurking much - hope you are well

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    The visuals of the crowd suffering in a big... (none / 0) (#6)
    by magster on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 02:50:16 PM EST
    thunderstorm would be horrid. He should have held the convention in Denver again, or in Phoenix or Las Vegas or some other dessert.

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    Baked Alaska? (5.00 / 3) (#8)
    by Anne on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 02:57:18 PM EST
    Floating Island?

    [Sorry, just conjured those up when I read "dessert" where I know you meant "desert."  It's been one of those days and I'm a little punchy...]

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    Mississippi mud pie? (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by Zorba on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:41:39 PM EST
    Key Lime pie?  Boston cream pie? New York cheesecake?  (Mmmmmm.....cheesecake!)
    I just spent the past two days making baklava for our food festival- I'm a little punchy, myself.
    ;-)

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    D'oh! (none / 0) (#44)
    by magster on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 06:06:34 PM EST


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    Or a stadium with a roof (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by Slado on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:39:02 PM EST
    Atlanta has one of those

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    Dangerous also (none / 0) (#9)
    by nycstray on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 02:58:02 PM EST
    Thunderstorms are much different than 'rain or shine'. They'd have to pull the plug, I would think. Was at a concert out @ Jones Beach where that happened. Rain was fine, but once the crazy thunder and lightening started, that was it.

    Prob security concerns also should they have a crazy storm.

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    Exactly. They can't take chances on lightning (none / 0) (#16)
    by ruffian on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:38:51 PM EST
    or torrential rain with 75000 people in the stadium. Maybe a rock band can take those chances, but the POTUS just can't. It would be insane. I'm sure they had their 'chance of storms' threshold set up to make the call today.

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    In late summer, pick pretty much any (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by Anne on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:48:03 PM EST
    city on the east coast and there will be a chance of thunderstorms - it's practically a given.

    If they wanted to do an east coast venue, they needed one with a domed stadium.

    And even that's not without its risks...at last night's game between the Orioles and the Blue Jays, they had the Rogers Dome partially open, it started to pour rain, and they couldn't get it closed; at one point it was raining at home plate and dry on the pitcher's mound.  And the fire alarms were going off!

    I don't know - it all makes me think this venue wasn't thought out as thoroughly as it should have been.

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    Yup - it was never a very good plan (none / 0) (#31)
    by ruffian on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 04:24:20 PM EST


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    The Call Ball Games... (none / 0) (#28)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 04:00:10 PM EST
    ...when it's lighting.

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    The only person I know in Charlotte (none / 0) (#10)
    by CoralGables on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:05:31 PM EST
    got soaked in Charlotte last night and is very happy for the move indoors. The weather channel says 50% chance of thunderstorms tonight and 40% chance of thunderstorms tomorrow.

    Not sure about your rain or shine quote as I was told all along that going outside was totally dependent on clear skies.

    Either way, the only person I know in town for the convention is very happy to get out of the rain.

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    On NPR they talked to a woman (none / 0) (#15)
    by ruffian on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:37:00 PM EST
    that had waited in line 6 hours for tickets. They were not having problems attracting a crowd.

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    OK, Anne presents evidence below. (none / 0) (#18)
    by ruffian on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:41:34 PM EST
    I stand corrected!

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    Even a Dead Guy Can Slam Mitt (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 02:36:29 PM EST
    Last night they showed to Senate race tally between Mitt and E Kennedy during the Kennedy tribute, which included this quote:

    On the question of the choice issue, I have supported the Roe v. Wade. I am pro-choice. My opponent is multiple choice.

    Boom goes the dy-No-Mitt from the grave of a Kennedy.

    Frankly, (none / 0) (#42)
    by lentinel on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 05:42:08 PM EST
    I wish that the Dems would ignore Mitt.


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    And why, pray tell, would you ... (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 06:22:16 PM EST
    ... advise Democrats to ignore the GOP candidate in a tightly contested presidential campaign?

    I'd no more ignore my opponent in a tight political race, than I'd turn my back to the ocean when the surf's pumping at 10-15 feet.

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    I'm (none / 0) (#51)
    by lentinel on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 06:55:43 PM EST
    not advising them to do anything.

    I'm saying that I am not interested in Romney.


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    They may also be coming to the (5.00 / 5) (#7)
    by Anne on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 02:55:28 PM EST
    conclusion that the optics of Obama delivering an acceptance speech in a stadium named for a mega-bank that was up to its armpits in the mortgage/foreclosure/securities mess and took billions in bailout money, might not be in keeping with what has so far been a very populist message...

    David Dayen contributes this gem:

    In addition, the campaign reportedly had trouble filling all the seats at BofA Stadium, which houses 77,000. A half-empty stadium would have been terrible for optics, and I assume it proved hard to entice people out to sit in the rain. I received an email yesterday from the DCCC offering to fly supporters out to the final night, not in exchange for a campaign donation, but just by signing up to an email list. There was a hint of desperation in that.

    Doesn't surprise me they're going with "weather" as the reason for the move, but they shouldn't be too surprised if most people greet that with something between a snicker and a snort.

    Weather could still be the reason (none / 0) (#38)
    by Democratic Cat on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 05:13:26 PM EST
    You can fill a stadium in good weather, but if there are thunderstorms (and I read that people would have to be in line/in the stadium for hours beforehand) only the very heartiest might show up. I think it's a smart move.

    Now if the Nats could just fill their stadium.  Even on the most beautiful days, with the best team in baseball, there are thousands of empty seats.

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    You're complaining about the Nats ... (none / 0) (#48)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 06:40:39 PM EST
    ... to an Orioles fan. Other than that, I agree with you. I think it's foolish for the Obama campaign to risk getting caught by a thunderstorm when they clearly didn't have to.

    Regardless, given what happened to the Romney campaign at Detroit's Ford Field last February, the Republicans are in no position to make light of Democratic stadium events.

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    I'm bipartisan (5.00 / 1) (#63)
    by Democratic Cat on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 07:44:20 PM EST
    I like the Orioles too.  :-)

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    It's finally fun again to be an O's fan! (none / 0) (#62)
    by Anne on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 07:33:20 PM EST
    I bet you couldn't find anyone who thought we'd be where we are, tied atop the AL East, and playing meaningful games in September.

    I don't know what it is - Orioles Magic? - and I don't know how it's going to end, but it's been a great season.

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    So good to see you here (none / 0) (#47)
    by Jane in CA on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 06:38:50 PM EST
    still keeping it real, after all these years!

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    Romney tax returns hacked for ransom? (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Anne on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:27:47 PM EST
    I don't know where this bit of news belongs, so I'm just going to put it here.  If it's legit, it sounds like blackmail, at a minimum:

    Mitt Romney's tax returns are reportedly in the hands of a team of hackers who plan on releasing them publicly at the end of the month unless a ransom is paid.

    The group allegedly obtained the files from PricewaterhouseCooper's Tennessee office on Aug. 25, in what was described on PasteBin as a Mission Impossible-like caper:

    Romney's 1040 tax returns were taken from the PWC office 8/25/2012 by gaining access to the third floor via a gentleman working on the 3rd floor of the building. Once on the 3rd floor, the team moved down the stairs to the 2nd floor and setup shop in an empty office room. During the night, suite 260 was entered, and all available 1040 tax forms for Romney were copied. A package was sent to the PWC on suite 260 with a flash drive containing a copy of the 1040 files, plus copies were sent to the Democratic office in the county and copies were sent to the GOP office in the county at the beginning of the week also containing flash drives with copies of Romney's tax returns before 2010. A scanned signature image for Mitt Romney from the 1040 forms were scanned and included with the packages, taken from earlier 1040 tax forms gathered and stored on the flash drives.  

    The files are to be released to the public on Sept. 28, according to the PasteBin document.

    The release, however, could allegedly be avoided if Romney's camp were to wire transfer $1 million in Bitcoins -- an online currency that is difficult both to trace and to identify.

    Not sure I believe it...

    Let's just hope the Romney family doesn't have a dog they can strap to the top of the campaign jet to distract the public.

    No dog on the roof, please. (none / 0) (#23)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:46:51 PM EST
    But how about a couple of dressage horses?

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    As for location (5.00 / 3) (#34)
    by smott on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 04:35:16 PM EST
    A strong union state woulda been nice.
    PA for instance.

    But I dream

    Tweedle dee. (5.00 / 2) (#41)
    by lentinel on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 05:37:11 PM EST
    Associated Press:
    CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- Embarrassed by Republicans, Democrats amended their convention platform Wednesday to add a mention of God and declare that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.

    Gotta have God in there. Can't give God to the Republicans. We love God as much as they do for Christ's sake. Church and State. Together forever. Love it.

    When Romney said, a few months ago, that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, I thought his geography was a wee bit agenda-driven. Now I know different.

    Four more years.

    Oh, jeez (5.00 / 2) (#55)
    by Zorba on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 07:01:42 PM EST
    Can we just get "God" (or religion in any manifestation) out of politics, and stop kow-towing to Israel?  I guess not.  I am really getting sick of this sh!t.

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    One (5.00 / 1) (#65)
    by lentinel on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 08:17:49 PM EST
    of the main reasons cited for why "they hate us", is our contempt for the Palestinians.

    Putting it simply, I think that Obama's foreign policy is following the same path as W. before him. I am fearful about disastrous results.

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    Debbie W-Schultz (none / 0) (#69)
    by Amiss on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 12:20:26 AM EST
    was being interviewed by Piers Morgan last nite and she told him last nite that everything that was supposed to.   be in it was included in it. She repeated several times because he.just would not let the subject drop. I think Imho that the USA is advanced enough that we don't need God inserted into everything. There are many religions and those that are agnostic where they don't pray to "God". That has nothing to do or shouldn't have anything to do with any branch of our government.

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    DWS (none / 0) (#75)
    by jbindc on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 07:50:06 AM EST
    Has already gotten herself in trouble this week regarding Israel.

    She needs some coaching on how to handle interviews. (And I say this as someone who likes her).

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    The only reason left that I vote democratic (none / 0) (#73)
    by Mr Natural on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 07:06:20 AM EST
    is because I loathe the republican party's pandering to the religious zealots and wackos of the right, to continuing irrationality and ignorance in an age of science.

    As for the Republican's supposed support of Israel, last I looked the real reason was right wing American religious wackos were still cheerleading for Israel to host or serve as our proxy in Armaghedden, or some such insanity.  

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    I never liked the outdoor acceptance speech site (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by DFLer on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 07:15:11 PM EST
    idea in the first place. It should be part of the convention. The delegates attending after all, went through a long process, from precinct to county to state, to be elected and sent to the convention to nominate Pres. Obama. (and a lot of personal expense too) He is accepting THEIR nomination, not a rock audience's nomination.

    just saying

    Watch streaming (5.00 / 1) (#58)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 07:17:16 PM EST
    I'm kind of surprised that these speakers like Cecile Richards and Jim Hunt are actually pretty good. Usually these kind of speakers make me want to press the snooze button.

    Just saw Cecile Richards, president of (5.00 / 5) (#59)
    by caseyOR on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 07:21:16 PM EST
    Planned Parenthood, speak at the convention.

    When she mentioned her mother, the late Ann Richards, the crowd erupted into applause and cheers that went on for a bit of time. And Cecile's eyes filled with tears. She didn't break down, but she was obviously moved by the demonstration of affection for her mom.

    Damn, I miss Ann Richards. And Molly Ivins. Two of the best that Texas ever gave the country.

    I did not see the speech but I had no idea (5.00 / 2) (#66)
    by ruffian on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 08:41:28 PM EST
    she was Ann Richards' daughter.  I've seen her other times and have been impressed. Should have put it together.

    Yes, I sure miss Ann and Molly too.

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    Barbara Jordan (5.00 / 3) (#67)
    by leap on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 11:20:08 PM EST
    Don't forget Barbara Jordan as a treasure from Texas. She was one of my heroes. There were some really kickass liberal women from that puke state.

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    Thank you for reminding us! (5.00 / 1) (#68)
    by shoephone on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 12:19:20 AM EST
    Barbara Jordan WAS a treasure, and whenever she spoke, I was riveted. She had vast stores of eloquence and integrity, especially when she made her speech to the rest of Congress on the imperative of impeaching Nixon!

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    Purchase and use the Barbara Jordan stamp (none / 0) (#72)
    by DFLer on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 06:42:20 AM EST
    from the USPS

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    I was really impressed (none / 0) (#70)
    by Amiss on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 12:37:00 AM EST
    by her and truly enjoyed her speech. My husband was really impressed by her.

    Oh I e-mailed the ACLU last nite.They have a regional office here but they held their monthly meeting last week. If I do not hear back from them tomorrow I will call. A little sunshine today on the absentee ballot tho. I am still registered to vote where I used to live in the big bend of Fla. I filled out the forms and sent them in and got an email stating that I should hear back in a few days,  If they deny me. I will be more assertive with the ACLU the local TV personality as well as my Senator.

    Thank you so much for your ideas and encouragement. I am very grateful for your help.

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    sorry (none / 0) (#71)
    by Amiss on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 12:39:13 AM EST
    That was off-topic and was meant for Casey.

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    Please keep us informed, Amiss. n/t (none / 0) (#78)
    by caseyOR on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 02:00:06 PM EST


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    But will he draw such crowds. I (none / 0) (#1)
    by oculus on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 02:18:57 PM EST
    keep reading he lacks charisma. Where did it disappear to post-2008?

    the only (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:15:38 PM EST
    place charisma appeared was behind the podium during  a speech. It was never there other times.

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    It's still there (none / 0) (#2)
    by AngryBlackGuy on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 02:23:25 PM EST
    But you turn that wattage down when you have to govern.

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    Hogwash (5.00 / 5) (#5)
    by shoephone on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 02:39:41 PM EST
    charisma (kuh-RIZ-muh) n  1) see: Bill Clinton.

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    Actually, I think that (5.00 / 2) (#14)
    by Zorba on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:36:50 PM EST
    Michelle also has a good bit of charisma, herself.
    ;-)

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    Huh? Basic logic says you turn it up... (5.00 / 4) (#20)
    by Dadler on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:43:40 PM EST
    ...whenever the hell you need to. How on earth is utilizing whatever charisma possess a bad thing when governing? That makes less than no sense.
     

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    whatever charisma YOU possess (none / 0) (#21)
    by Dadler on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:44:17 PM EST


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    Charisma.... (none / 0) (#29)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 04:02:56 PM EST
    ....is dialable, BS is.

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    Correction (5.00 / 2) (#36)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 04:44:03 PM EST
    Charisma isn't dialable, BS is.

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    Perhaps they have seen Panthers games (none / 0) (#11)
    by lilburro on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:15:05 PM EST
    I'm afraid there are few things that can motivate a crowd to stay in North Carolina, and they are college basketball and college basketball.

    MSNBC won the ratings battle ... (none / 0) (#26)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:58:52 PM EST
    ... among the cablebabble networks last night for its opening night coverage of the Democratic National Convention, with 4.1 million viewers tuning in. CNN finishes second with 3.9 million, and Fox News finished a distant third with 2.9 million.

    (Of course, one can legitimately ask how many Fox News fans / GOP voters are going to watch the DNC.)

    NBC was the overall ratings winner with 5 million viewers last night.

    Punditless CSpan (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by CoralGables on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 04:27:08 PM EST
    was an easy winner for me last night.

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    another reason to watch CSPAN: (none / 0) (#56)
    by DFLer on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 07:09:40 PM EST
    they show the musical numbers, like just played "You're All I need to Get BY" with an great Gospel Choir.

     During that time, the PBS announcers, for example were punditing.

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    Duh (none / 0) (#30)
    by jbindc on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 04:18:31 PM EST
    Just as Fox was the winner during the Republican convention.

    It's called "preaching to the choir".

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    I guess it still counts if you are watching (none / 0) (#32)
    by ruffian on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 04:26:04 PM EST
    MSNBC and listening to Current's audio...guess Current does not even get counted in the ratings.

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    Current TVs not carried by ... (none / 0) (#50)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 06:44:05 PM EST
    ... our local cable provider (Oceanic Time-Warner) in the basic package. So, I wouldn't know anything about Current.

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    I wonder how MSNBC did during the 11pm EDT (none / 0) (#35)
    by Farmboy on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 04:35:22 PM EST
    hour last night, considering that The Daily Show and Colbert beat cable news for RNC coverage during that time slot:

    NEW YORK, September 4, 2012 - In head-to-head competition, COMEDY CENTRAL was The Choice among the crucial youth vote who tuned into the award-winning political coverage of "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart" and "The Colbert Report" in greater numbers than Fox News Channel, MSNBC and CNN in the head-to-head battle during the Republican National Convention last week in Tampa, FL.


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    God and Jerusalem (none / 0) (#37)
    by Slado on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 05:01:24 PM EST
    Bad optics

    This is one of those unnecessary errors.  You already had your platform.  Just roll with it.  Now it looks weird.

    Awkward. (none / 0) (#40)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 05:34:10 PM EST


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    Democracy at work. (5.00 / 2) (#43)
    by lentinel on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 05:53:36 PM EST
    Villaraigosa looked around the stage and appeared uncertain over how to proceed after an initial vote, in which the "nays" to adding Jerusalem and God back into the platform sounded just as loud as the "ayes."
    Villaraigosa called for a second vote with similar results. He then called for a third voice vote, and while it sounded evenly split, he proclaimed that two-thirds of the delegates approved the changes, which sparked some grumbling in the audience.

    Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz said the platform was changed to reflect Obama's views.

    And the blurring of the lines continues unabated.

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    While (5.00 / 2) (#45)
    by lentinel on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 06:12:06 PM EST
    supporters of Obama are earnestly trying to illuminate the distinction between the two parties, the democrats pull a bonehead move like this.

    Are they trying to lose?

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    The good news is (none / 0) (#54)
    by Slado on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 07:00:30 PM EST
    If you are only watching MSNBC you don't know it happened

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    Huffpo (none / 0) (#61)
    by lentinel on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 07:31:26 PM EST
    which is pro-Obama in my opinion, is letting a lot of people know about it.

    The 'pushover party".
    "Dem's cave".

    According to the NYTImes, Obama is trying to win back people who voted for him the first time, but are disenchanted.

    According to Wasserman, he was behind this idiotic and pointless move by the Democrats.

    Maybe, as I said, the Dems are trying to lose.

    On the other hand, maybe the way they think they should go to win is to emulate the republicans. That is the way Obama has governed and it has lost him the support of people who should be his base.

    And he, and they, continue to do it.
    Isn't that the definition of idiocy?

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    Really? (none / 0) (#64)
    by Yman on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 07:48:21 PM EST
    'Cause it's front page on their website.

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    Here is video of that voice vote. (5.00 / 5) (#49)
    by caseyOR on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 06:41:45 PM EST
    The handling of this is so ham-handed. Clearly, there were not 2/3 in favor of these changes.

    What a farce.

    Here is a link to the video. Watch it. Villaraigosa has no idea how to deal with the refusal of the delegates to be railroaded into these changes.

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    "Farce" is right (5.00 / 3) (#60)
    by shoephone on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 07:28:05 PM EST
    I am so disgusted. As a Jew I'm disgusted! The push to sanctify Jerusalem as the capital is all about politics. It's nothing but right wing, anti-Arab zealotry, and it serves no positive purpose. All the foreign ambassadors and embassies are in Tel Aviv.

    Obama and the Democrats are a party of craven chickensh*ts.

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    Apparently the party of craven chicken$***s (none / 0) (#74)
    by Mr Natural on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 07:08:46 AM EST
    found itself about 60,000 suckers short of filling a stadium.  lol.

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    There's that GOP Arithmetic again . . . (none / 0) (#79)
    by nycstray on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 02:14:22 PM EST
    just saying'

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    Platform activity never has a full house (none / 0) (#80)
    by sj on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 06:25:11 PM EST
    Most people think it's too boring.  Those attending have something to say.  Platform work reminds me of one of my favorite quotes attributed to Disraeli: "History is made by those who show up".  Usually, anyway.

    In this case "history" was made by those with power.  Which is the much more common situation.

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    I can't confirm (none / 0) (#76)
    by jbindc on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 07:53:27 AM EST
    the authenticity of this photo, seeing as it comes from GretaWire - great Van Sustern's page on Fox News, but IF true, looks a little fishy, considering the vote.

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    0% chance of rain (none / 0) (#77)
    by jbindc on Thu Sep 06, 2012 at 12:35:10 PM EST
    at 10 pm. tonight

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