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One Manhunt Over, Another Underway

Christopher Dorner appears to be dead.
In Grapevine, TX, escaped convict Alberto Morales (story here), is still on the run. [More...]

Morales' Nevada attorney says Morales is mentally ill. He's also quite violent:

Morales claimed he suffered a severe brain injury when he was hit in the head with a baseball bat at age 17, and that he hears voices and has trouble controlling his impulses.

"He said that ever since that attack and subsequent surgeries he has been struggling with demons in his head....While in a jail medical ward, Morales mutilated his genitals and scrawled words in blood on the wall. He underwent a psychological examination by doctors at a Nevada state mental hospital in Sparks, but he was found competent to stand trial, the attorney said.

His Florida offense:

Morales was sentenced to 10 years in prison in December after pleading guilty to sexual battery with a deadly weapon, burglary with assault and kidnapping stemming from 2003. He broke into a Miami-area home, pulled out a butcher knife and raped two women, according to a police report.

Both offenses occurred in 2003, but he was convicted and sentenced in Nevada first (2008) to 30 years to life (or 20 to life, depending which news report you read.) Florida apparently then extradited him to face its charge , where he was sentenced in December to ten years, consecutive to the Nevada sentence. The officers were returning him to Nevada .

The transporting police officers told 911 he is schizophrenic.

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    Ha! J, you just wanted to put up a Bon Jovi (none / 0) (#1)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 12:44:18 PM EST
    video! :-)

    true enough (none / 0) (#2)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 12:53:37 PM EST
    I wanted to put it up yesterday but went with the movie clip from the Fugitive instead. Glad I got another chance!

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    See the concert if you can (none / 0) (#3)
    by jbindc on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 02:08:43 PM EST
    Saw it here in DC and it was fabulous!

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    April 16 (none / 0) (#5)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 02:34:42 PM EST
    already have my tickets (7th row). I also went in 2011, really great show.

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    Got to see... (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by desertswine on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 08:09:54 PM EST
    Jackson Browne in concert last nite.  It was the most laid-back concert I've ever been to.

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    Oops... (none / 0) (#10)
    by desertswine on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 08:21:23 PM EST
    Guess I should've saved that for an open thread. Sorry.

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    I'll pile on...I love the smaller venue (none / 0) (#19)
    by ruffian on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 03:58:58 AM EST
    shows he has been doing in the last few years. Very laid back and friendly. He takes a lot of audience requests, and now only occasionally scolds people for talking during the quiet parts.

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    How 'bout (none / 0) (#4)
    by P3P3P3P3 on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 02:33:46 PM EST
    Here's a case for you (none / 0) (#6)
    by Dadler on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 02:49:07 PM EST
    Before anyone comments... (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by unitron on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 08:06:29 AM EST
    ...they really do need to RTFA first.

    For one thing, the driver's intoxication apparently hasn't been proven yet, and the situation sounds like it might have happened anyway even if he'd been perfectly sober.

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    That is awful (none / 0) (#8)
    by sj on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 03:06:12 PM EST
    ... on so many levels.  For the victims, for the families of the victims, for the perpetrators, for the families of the perpetrators (probably the same people).  And those comments!  Jeebus

    Agree -- awful beyond measure.

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    Having been through a DWI death and horrible (none / 0) (#12)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 09:17:38 PM EST
    injury all I can say is that I would cut the father lose in a heart beat.

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    "loose" (none / 0) (#13)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 09:18:22 PM EST
    "An eye for an eye" (none / 0) (#14)
    by shoephone on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 09:41:02 PM EST
    Nice old testament sentiment, but not the way the laws of the modern world work.

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    really? (none / 0) (#16)
    by TeresaInPa on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 09:48:37 PM EST
    I am sure that comes as news to Jim.

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    You're right, Teresa (none / 0) (#17)
    by shoephone on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 09:51:59 PM EST
    It is news to Jim. You clever girl!

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    Teresa and my new shadow, shoephone (1.00 / 1) (#22)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 08:56:21 AM EST
    No one said it was "modern."

    But until you view the dead body and have them take you into that small room and tell you, "She has almost no chance," you will not understand.

    But until you do please continue to make flip comments about the death, hurt and terrible consequences of death by drunk driver.

    It does so define what and who you are.

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    Ridiculous (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by Yman on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 09:28:29 AM EST
    Absolutely no one was making "flip comments about the death, hurt and terrible consequences of death by drunk driver".  

    ... but if you can't make an honest argument, go with dishonest straw arguments, huh?

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    Is That View Just for One Family... (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 01:36:00 PM EST
    ...because I am pretty sure the guy who was murdered has a family and is realizing the "terrible consequences" of vigilantism.

    And since he did it minutes after the accident, before his kids were even dead, what he believed was most certainly inaccurate.  For me I can't imagine leaving my kids dieing and family injured to get a gun to shoot someone.

    Certainly people in this country do not have the right to walk away from murdering someone w/o penalty, just like if the driver was intoxicated doesn't get to walk away.  But good to see you let him off before we know if the driver was even intoxicated.  Glad me moved from mob mentality to a system that doesn't let meatheads rule with their gut instincts and guns

    I would have more sympathy once the facts come out, but committing murder while your kids are dieing is pretty damn cold IMO.  One kid didn't die until he was at the hospital.

    What if the guy wasn't drunk and just fell asleep ?

    I am all about punishing drunk drivers, just not on the spot before that is determined buy a grieving father with a gun.

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    I didn't say it was good and I didn't say it (1.00 / 1) (#31)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 04:52:01 PM EST
    was modern or if it fit in with your view of what was right or what you think you would do...

    what I said was based on my experience I would cut the guy loose.

    And if you haven't been there, and I have, then you have absolutely no idea of what goes on.

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    i'm getting the sense that the last people who (none / 0) (#7)
    by cpinva on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 02:49:59 PM EST
    should be entrusted with keeping violent criminals are the police. i also get the sense that this gentleman will have a life expectancy of only about 2 minutes, after the police catch up with him. funny how that happens.

    cp, you make a great argument for (none / 0) (#11)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 09:14:53 PM EST
    why PC speech should be outlawed.

    Gentleman:

    1. a man regarded as having qualities of refinement associated with a good family

    2. a man who is cultured, courteous, and well-educated

    3. a polite name for a man

    Calling him Mr. Morales?? Well, there is nothing wrong with being polite to someone who has a de facto death sentence... But "gentleman?"

    gesh

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    How freaky (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by shoephone on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 09:42:33 PM EST
    You want to legitimize retaliatory murder, but outlaw speech you don't agree with. No surprise there.

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    shoephone has now moved into making things (none / 0) (#23)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 09:01:42 AM EST
    up. I never said I would legitimize retaliatory murder.

    I just said my personal experience in this instance would lead me to let the father go.

    Your ethics and understanding are like those of a teenager. And you demonstrate the 21st century actions of the political extremists, Left and Right, in which you can only attack anyone who doesn't agree with you 100%.

    Sad.

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    Seriously? How ridiculous ... (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by Yman on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 09:49:18 AM EST
    ... can you get?

    The term "gentleman" can mean many things, Jim, but judging by the context of cpinva's post, he/she clearly meant none of the things that you are suggesting.  

    1.  a man regarded as having qualities of refinement associated with a good family
    2.  a man who is cultured, courteous, and well-educated
    3.  a polite name for a man
    4.  the personal servant of a gentleman (esp in the phrase gentleman's gentleman )
    5.  ( Brit ) history  a man of gentle birth, who was entitled to bear arms, ranking above a yeoman in social position
    6.  (formerly) a euphemistic word for a: smuggler

    Going out on a limb here, but I'm guessing that cpinva also did not mean to suggest that Morales was not a personal servant/valet or a smuggler, either.

    "Gesh", yourself.

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    Alot of "qualities of refinement" (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by jondee on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 01:36:09 PM EST
    began as what would be called by some today "PC speech"..

    Apparently it was alright to be refined in antebellum days, but today all you have to do is show up Tea Party rallies with misspelled signs..

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    I see that Jondee is again commenting (1.00 / 1) (#32)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 04:55:12 PM EST
    alot about things he knows nothing about except what he has read on Media Matters and MSNBC.

    But that's alright with me.

    Displays of ignorance becomes him.

    lol

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    Or a blog (none / 0) (#29)
    by jbindc on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 02:45:51 PM EST
    using "alot" and "alright"

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    Ouch. (none / 0) (#30)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 03:25:36 PM EST
    Yes (5.00 / 3) (#38)
    by jondee on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 12:10:22 PM EST
    "A lot".

    Look up anal retentive now.

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    Snorted out loud at that one, jondee... (none / 0) (#39)
    by Anne on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 12:22:20 PM EST
    it had a bit of zing on it...

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    You make a comment that pedantically (none / 0) (#40)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 01:58:37 PM EST
    denigrates others for their misspellings, and then you yourself misspell within that same comment. And then you double down when your ego doesn't allow you to cop to it. On a dopey anonymous interweb blog. Ah well, no worries, we all have our moments...

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    Gentlemen, ladies and rapists (none / 0) (#18)
    by SuzieTampa on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 10:22:59 PM EST
    Jim, this is common usage among different groups of people. My sister who still lives in TX worked for years in the health-care field and calls everyone gentlemen and ladies, sometimes with a bit of irony.

    I still have a lot of friends in the area where this violent- schizophrenic-serial-rapist-animal-abuser is loose. This Miami Herald article gives more of his background.

    I admire people in law enforcement who risk their own lives to try to keep people like Morales off the streets. At least the detective went to Parkland hospital in Dallas, which still has an amazing trauma center.

    The Dallas Morning News quotes his Las Vegas attorney, who says his client told him that he suffered a severe brain injury at 17.

    I just hope he's caught or killed before he hurts anyone else.

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    Suize, yes (none / 0) (#24)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 09:03:39 AM EST
    Mr. Morales... Gentleman??? No.

    His actions are not that of one and we have no way of knowing the cause.

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    Jim, I agree (none / 0) (#33)
    by SuzieTampa on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 07:00:18 PM EST
    that Morales is the epitome of the anti-gentleman. I was merely explaining that some people use the term for every man and some, like my sister, may use it dripping with sarcasm.

    I was trying to supply some facts, but perhaps I should have been more clear: I don't know if Morales was hit by a baseball bat, or even if he was, whether that caused him to become a career torturer of women and animals. Personally, I think the world would be better off without him and him being killed would be good news to me.

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    I wonder what his conduct was like... (none / 0) (#21)
    by unitron on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 08:08:41 AM EST
    ...before getting hit with that baseball.

    head injury red herring (1.00 / 1) (#34)
    by diogenes on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 07:14:40 PM EST
    1.  Head injuries do not cause "Schizophrenia" or auditory hallucinations, nor do they lead people to mutilate their genitals.
    2.  The odds of a Sunday School teacher becoming so disinhibited by a frontal lobe injury (bear in mind that it isn't clear what sort of head injury he had) that he would rape people using weapons are infinitesimal.
    3.  If people here think that transported prisoners should be doubly shackled and even sedated during long-distance transport to prevent escape, fine with me.  They can even wear a Depends to prevent the risk of escape during bathroom breaks.
     

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    Do you teach Sunday School? (5.00 / 2) (#36)
    by Yman on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 07:35:15 AM EST
    The odds of a Sunday School teacher becoming so disinhibited by a frontal lobe injury (bear in mind that it isn't clear what sort of head injury he had) that he would rape people using weapons are infinitesimal.

    You seem to have a bit of a fixation ...

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    Sunday school teacher (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by sj on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 10:46:34 AM EST
    Are they morally superior to priests, I wonder?  You keep bringing it up.  And bringing it up.  And bringing it up.

    I wonder if you happen to be one.  Because you really think you are morally superior.  And your morals are, frankly, baffling.  I'm not sure you have them, because you don't seem to draw any sort of lines.  

    Ah, except that law and order and sunday school teachers: good.  Everybody else: bad, and either criminal or potential criminal.

    I wish I could downrate this comment 5 times.

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    thanks for the information (none / 0) (#35)
    by SuzieTampa on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 10:37:42 PM EST