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ISIS: The Torture Before the Beheadings

The New York Times has a new article on the torture that preceded the beheadings of the journalists ISIS held captive. I'm going to read it as soon as Homeland is over. Here's a place to discuss it and all ISIS related news.

Update: There is also a new episode of hostage John Cantlie's video series, Lend Me Your Ears. You can watch it here.

“Some of us who tried to escape were waterboarded by our captors, as Muslim prisoners are waterboarded by their American captors.”

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    the most absurd irony of all of this (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Dadler on Mon Oct 27, 2014 at 10:23:38 AM EST
    No matter how awful and wretched and our foreign policy is, as inexcusably violent as we tend to be, as irrational, these ISIS cats...are worse. I think that's the elephant on the pool table. I don't even thing THEY realize it. That's probably the only advantage we have: that because they are religious fundamentalists, extremists, they actively engage in the retardation of their own minds ever day, and as such imagination is what will beat the phuck out of them every day. Sadly, even as the "most free nation on earth," we still can't muster that imagination.

    Quite an indictment of the complete amoral corruption that runs this nation.

    Thats quite an endorsement (none / 0) (#4)
    by Jack203 on Tue Oct 28, 2014 at 09:03:02 PM EST
    Were not as bad as ISIS.

    What a ridiculous comparison.  Being self critical can be good, but sometimes the left can turn off a lot of people by going overboard.  And then where do they go?  The right, which is even worse.

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    it was hard for me (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by ZtoA on Tue Oct 28, 2014 at 04:31:57 AM EST
    to even click on this post. It is such a horrible subject. J thank  you again for posting on this subject.

    This is interesting: (none / 0) (#1)
    by jtaylorr on Mon Oct 27, 2014 at 09:03:11 AM EST
    Mr. Foley converted to Islam soon after his capture and adopted the name Abu Hamza, Mr. Bontinck said. (His conversion was confirmed by three other recently released hostages, as well as by his former employer.)

    "I recited the Quran with him," Mr. Bontinck said. "Most people would say, `Let's convert so that we can get better treatment.' But in his case, I think it was sincere."

    compared with the articles about him immediately following his death:

    Foley was a devout Christian who, unlike most journalists I've known during my almost four decades in the field, was unapologetic about his heart for social justice and the inspiration he found for his beliefs in the New Testament.
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    Foley's devout Catholic faith was discussed in the days after his grim execution by many who knew the American journalist, and reports have suggested his life could have been spared if he had converted to Islam.
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    Foley's parents seemed to validate the martyrdom label when his father, John, spoke at an emotional news conference outside the family's New Hampshire home and said he and his wife "believe he was a martyr." Foley's mother, Diane, added that her son "reminds us of Jesus. Jesus was goodness, love -- and Jim was becoming more and more that."

    In an interview two days later with Katie Couric, Foley's younger brother, Michael, recounted how Pope Francis had called the family to console them and in their conversation "referred to Jim's act as, really, martyrdom."

    Numerous commentators had already picked up on that idea, holding Foley up not only as a witness to the Christian faith but as a spur for believers in the West to take more seriously the plight of Christians in Iraq and elsewhere in the Middle East who are being persecuted to a degree that some say is comparable to genocide.

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