How the Failed Yemen Raid Went Down

By Jeralyn, Section Foreign Affairs
Posted on Sun Dec 07, 2014 at 09:00:00 AM EST
Tags: ISIS, Iraq, Syria (all tags)

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The Wall. St. Journal has an open access link to an article on how the failed Yemen rain went down.

ISIS has taken a town in Libya. The Guardian has an interesting article on how bad and frightening it is. Isis posts a series of pictures showing people in Anbar laughing and hanging out with the ISIS police. You can view the photos, which have no violence, here.. [More...]

The Guardian gives you a pretty good picture of life in a city under ISIS:

Isis units recently staged a show of force in Derna, with 60 jeeps packed with black-clad fighters parading around the town.

Their leader, or emir, is Saudi preacher Abu al-Baraa el-Azdi, who arrived from abroad in September. Backing him up are two to three hundred fighters....Under their control, Derna is being cleared of opponents, with a string of assassinations of judges, government officials and activists.

In November the severed heads of three young activists were discovered in the town. El Azdi has set himself up as Derna’s supreme judge in the requisitioned courthouse, dispensing executions and floggings.

ISIS' a photo montage of life under ISIS in Anbar portrays quite a different scene. Also, notice the almost total absence of woman in town.

There is more than one side to ISIS. There's the fighting side which it how it intends to win the region. And then there's the charity-giving, job-offering, street building, gentle with kittens ISIS, that goes around town explaining that no one has anything to fear from them so long as they follow the rules and do what they are told.

John Kerry has started interpersing the word Da'ash into his speeches. That will make ISIS angry. Only enemies f ISIS call it Da'ash. It considers the word an insult.

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Limited to Comment #1 on this thread (5.00 / 4) (#11)
by Peter G on Sun Dec 07, 2014 at 05:34:38 PM EST

then yes. Otherwise, not at all.

That said (5.00 / 2) (#15)
by CaptHowdy on Sun Dec 07, 2014 at 08:10:46 PM EST

hijacking unrelated threads is probably not the best idea.

: the off topic comments about (none / 0) (#23)
by Jeralyn on Mon Dec 08, 2014 at 10:50:05 PM EST

Brown/Garner and U.S. cops have been deleted. Comments must be on topic.

This could come from (none / 0) (#1)
by jimakaPPJ on Sun Dec 07, 2014 at 07:50:34 AM EST

dictators throughout the ages.

... no one has anything to fear from them so long as they follow the rules and do what they are told.

: Or an American cop. (none / 0) (#24)
by Mordiggian 88 on Tue Dec 09, 2014 at 06:21:27 AM EST

And agreeing with this too (none / 0) (#4)
by Militarytracy on Sun Dec 07, 2014 at 08:02:06 AM EST

Mafia Town (none / 0) (#5)
by Dadler on Sun Dec 07, 2014 at 08:18:24 AM EST

ISIS are psychopaths, first and foremost, that is the only way you can carry out the Manson-Family type violence, murderous sexism, and giddily cultish brainwashing/abuse of children, hell of toddlers (makes our cartoon consumer brainwashing seem quaint and darling). That's the only side there is to ISIS, psychopathy. Everything else is merely a marketing offshoot. It's like reading the official charter of Hamas. Sounds nice...until you get to all the clinically insane stuff about "the Jews." All the "nice stuff" from folks like ISIS is like a kid getting a candy bar from someone who horribly abuses her the rest of the day. The candy is merely in the service of furthering psychopathic interests and control. And the more people buy into it as "You see, he's not such a bad guy, he gives gum drops to grandma, he gave my cousin a job..." the worse it gets. That's how abusers and killers do it. Exactly how. We should call them what they are, say go ahead and prove to the world how you are the worst human beings existence can produce, have at it, you'll have walking-dead populations of depressed and demoralized and hopeless people in no time, and you'll have to force your citizens on threat of death to lie to the world about it and say, no, ISIS are great, we're all much happier now, blah blah blah, what was that? Where are our wives and mothers and daughters and sisters? They're tied up in the barn, what about it?

Instead, as the perennial foreign occupier and invader, we will continue to be an equally bad actor in a much worse play. Cuz people are going to die horrible deaths either way. Better they are not at our hands 99.99% of the time.

: Except (2.00 / 1) (#12)
by christinep on Sun Dec 07, 2014 at 05:39:45 PM EST

I would delete your final paragraph above and add: Good for John Kerry.
Look, the disgust and disdain and loathing that you reflect in your major statement says it. These a--h===s are not going away if others play nice, back off, and salute. ISIS/ISIL must be met, rebuffed, and overcome directly ... this is much beyond the we-are-so-horrible and why can't we just do diplomacy wish. We are way beyond turning the other way; and, we are not ostriches.
Seriously. Actually, very seriously. The "perennial foreign occupier and invader"? Well ... Given the history of world powers and its ebbs & flows (together with some occupations by the US that would fit your description in the ultimate paragraph), it seems to me that it would only be an engagement in non-directional lamentation and circular discussion about what constitutes evil and chest-beating finger-pointing to say "they are bad & bad-est, but we must surely be real bad too."
Somewhere between lamenting the evil of ISIS and feeling the need to flagellate our backsides, there must be some direct, harsh, effective action that we can and should undertake. (That, on this Sunday with a glass of wine after coming home from a great performance of Beethoven's Fifth and thinking about the happenstance of the opening-bars on this Pearl Harbor Day so many years later ... is what I really think.)

See NYT re a teacher who was slated to (none / 0) (#18)
by oculus on Sun Dec 07, 2014 at 09:52:35 PM EST

be released from captivity in Yemen due to readiness to pay a demand of $200,000. But he was killed by his guard first. On the date of the failed U.S. rescue attempt. Anonymous person on behalf if U .S. government says our government was not aware he was to be released that date.

The fact remains that it (none / 0) (#22)
by Mordiggian 88 on Mon Dec 08, 2014 at 11:55:59 AM EST

Was found a homicide.

Yes, I agree that there should be some training but you seem to think it should involve either civilians acting like sheep earlier, now you change your tune and demand that the cops have some sort of special training instrad of demanding that they could at least use their fancy training and weaponry not to kill civilians who don't pose a threat to them or anyone else in the immediate vicinity.

Thanks for allowing me to clarify the differences between us here. It shouldn't take the death of a man to make reforms in the way cops treat civilians, but if that's the on,y way to achieve anything, perhaps the cops won't be acting like they are an occupying force and get back to the protect and serve business.

Who was protected, who was served by the cop that day?

You don't have to answer, it's a question for anyone to consider and answer if they want to.

Tootle-loo!