Mexico : U.S. Can Have El Chapo in About 300 Years

By Jeralyn, Section Crime in the News
Posted on Wed Jan 28, 2015 at 07:38:00 AM EST
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Mexico now says the U.S. is unlikely to play host to Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman anytime soon.

Mexico's Attorney General Jesus Murillo Karam yesterday told the Associated Press he expected a new extradition request by the U.S. to be filed yesterday or today. He also made it quite clear they aren't turning him over , at least not for 300 or 400 years:

"I could accept extradition, but at the time that I choose. 'El Chapo' must stay here to complete his sentence, and then I will extradite him," Murillo Karam told The Associated Press in an interview. "So about 300 or 400 years later — it will be a while."

He said it's a matter of "national sovereignty." [More...]

[To] extradite him to the United States would save a lot of costs to the country, but [he]defended his stay in Mexico as a matter of sovereignty until the completion of all proceedings against [him.]

He clarified that the extradition procedure is appropriate when there are security issues warrant or flight risk, which he said, "does not exist", even though El Chapo and escaped in 2001 from another Mexican prison, also maximum security.

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El Chapo spawned an entire song catalog, (none / 0) (#1)
by Mr Natural on Wed Jan 28, 2015 at 07:07:41 AM EST

Youtube is littered with his narcocorridos. According to one source, narcocorridos cannot be played on Mexican Radio.

La Gente Del Chapo is not the standard narco-encomium. 45 seconds in, El Chapo is lined up in a photo montage of mass murderers, including Osama bin Laden and Robert Mugabe.

ElBlogDelNarco.com is one blog that !!!graphically!!! documents the violence. For the past couple of decades, American drug users have financed turf wars between thug armies of on our southern border, thugs who make ISIS look like beginners, 55,000 killed in 2012 alone. They dress the same and affect the same poses, with their camo, balaklavas, and automatic weapons. And they make the same bloody videos. The only noticeable difference is that Mexican cartels do their wet work with machetes instead of knives.

Mexicans love their drugs (5.00 / 1) (#2)
by Dadler on Wed Jan 28, 2015 at 09:50:25 AM EST

Just as much as Americans. And most drugs consumed in America come from America. While I am as attuned to anyone about our utter hypocrisy, relieving Mexicans and the Mexican government from their own gross corruption is, in a word, tired and just not very true. No Mex weed is consumed here in droves much anymore, nor coke. Crystal is king, and you can make that anywhere. ANYwhere. Breaking Bad was nothing but a violence-addicts soap opera. I lived ten feet, for almost ten years, from tweakers who manufactured and sold. They were white as white could be. And they required no Mexican drug cartels to manufacture. Nor did the folks I know growing top-notch weed. The 'Americans are entirely responsible for Mexican drug violence' paradigm just doesn't hold anymore. You want to see rich people who REALLY don't care about the poor. Go to Mexico City, where you can see squatters by the MILLIONS living in cardboard shacks essentially. That, believe it or not, indicates something much more damning about Mexico than the U.S.. Don't get me wrong, we are worthless a-holes much of the time. But on this issue, we've been lapped IMO.


Heroin, I will admit... (none / 0) (#3)
by Dadler on Wed Jan 28, 2015 at 09:51:45 AM EST

...we still create an awful market for. But Heroin, is a relatively small part of the drug market here. Weed and pills and booze are kings and queens. And they are made...right here.


I've lived in Mexico D.F. (none / 0) (#4)
by Mr Natural on Wed Jan 28, 2015 at 10:13:25 AM EST

You may not want the U.S. to be responsible but the quantity of shipments documented in the Flores Twins case alone makes that wish look a little lame.


Pleaze... (none / 0) (#5)
by ScottW714 on Wed Jan 28, 2015 at 12:30:11 PM EST

...cocaine use is declining, but that doesn't mean it isn't the main fuel for the cartels/gangs/ or whatever you want to call criminal enterprises whose main income is selling cocaine.

Around $35 billion dollars worth of cocaine is consumed each year in the US.

While not entirely responsible, we lay to claim to a lot more cocaine dollars than Mexico, and it's the dollars that create the problems. If Mexico wasn't between cocoa leaves and American consumers, their drug violence would no more than any other country with cocaine users, IMO.

Mexico is poor for many reason, including a lack of natural resources and its aristocracy in which class jumping is almost unheard of.

Meth, is for the most part, a poor mans cocaine. Cocaine is alive and well in the US, and the $50B we spend every year for it is most certainly propping up the cartels/gangs from NY to St Louis to LA to Dominican Republic to Mexico to Peru to just about every Caribbean and South American country on the map.

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hogwash and true. (none / 0) (#6)
by cpinva on Wed Jan 28, 2015 at 04:42:38 PM EST

"Mexico is poor for many reason, including a lack of natural resources and its aristocracy in which class jumping is almost unheard of."

mexico has natural resources, from extractable ores to arable farmland. what it lacks, outside the major cities, is an infrastructure to make these natural resources viable economically. that it has been a dictatorship of one form or another since the Spanish originally killed off most of the indigenous population, and stole it, is the primary problem.

the aristocracy, not really having to answer to anyone, did/does what any aristocracy will do, given the opportunity: steal everything not nailed down, and the hell with everyone else. they get away with this, because they've always had the US available for pressure release, subtly encouraging the poor to transit north, and send money home. this isn't a dig at the immigrants, I understand completely why they'd leave, it's a dig at the government of mexico, which has done little to nothing to give the lower income classes a reason to stay home.

frankly, I'm surprised mexico hasn't had another revolution, given the concentration of wealth and governance at the top.


: I Was Thinking... (none / 0) (#7)
by ScottW714 on Thu Jan 29, 2015 at 01:04:07 PM EST

...more along the lines of timber and tillable land and the other resources needed to build infrastructure and support the population. I knew they have fuels and metals. But after doing some research, you are correct, Mexico does have plenty of resources. I was very surprised to see the amount of land used for farming and that the tropical rainforest is more than just the Yucatan.
But I still contend America contributes a ridiculous amount of money to the cocaine trade that props up the cartels in Mexico, aka violence.
You mentioned loving the internet in another post, I double that, it took me about 5 mins to find what I was looking for, but I spent 30 just reading about it. There is basically no factual argument these days that can't be resolved in less than 5 mins with a cell phone or computer.
I cannot remember the last time I was looking for some inane and could not find an answer.

ISIL hostage (none / 0) (#8)
by thomas rogan on Thu Jan 29, 2015 at 08:14:58 PM EST

If he's in a Mexican prison then in about three years either gangbangers will bust him out, gang members will bribe guards to get him out, or the gang will bribe someone up high to give him "clemency". Or else they'll kidnap someone and offer a "prisoner swap".