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    Oh, my (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Oct 04, 2015 at 06:10:34 AM EST
    that was funny. I burst out laughing.

    A while back I commented (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Oct 04, 2015 at 10:16:05 AM EST
    That Hillary has a great sense of humor and a race with Trump could bring it out.  This is what I'm talking about.

    Trump/Hillary
    Please oh please oh please

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    Oh, my. (none / 0) (#23)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Oct 05, 2015 at 06:26:22 AM EST
    Yes,  I see what you mean. LOL.

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    It was a fun skit (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by christinep on Sun Oct 04, 2015 at 10:11:27 AM EST
    ...semi-good Trump impersonation and (my fav) the looked-like-they-both-enjoyed-it Someone to Lean On song.  Humor & politics can mix :)

    "Lean on Me" (5.00 / 6) (#18)
    by Peter G on Sun Oct 04, 2015 at 09:30:27 PM EST
    is the song our daughter suggested for the father-daughter dance at her wedding a few weeks ago. Lots of fun; plenty of tears.

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    Cold cloudy and dreary here yesterday (none / 0) (#29)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Oct 05, 2015 at 09:33:39 AM EST
    I spent most of the afternoon watching the season 1 marathon of the Leftovers.
    Here's the thing, at the same moment I was watching that SNL clip with that song the same song turned up in the series.  It was literally on the tv and the iPad at the same time from two different sources.

    It felt like some kind of weird alignment.

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    The SNL skit (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by KeysDan on Sun Oct 04, 2015 at 11:23:00 AM EST
    was just what Mrs. Clinton needs right now.  With the "Committee to Lower Clinton Polls" on the well-deserved ropes, Mrs. Clinton took an opportunity to show her sense of humor--and timing. effacing and self-effacing.  

    'Hillary Needs to Stop Trying to Be Cool.' (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Oct 05, 2015 at 04:04:33 AM EST
    Actually, Ana Marie Cox needs to stop phoning it in. She used to be better than this.

    No,she never really (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by sj on Mon Oct 05, 2015 at 01:53:59 PM EST
    was. You just used to be more in tune with what she was saying when she phoned it in.

    She can be amusing, but I've never found her insightful.

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    Amen (none / 0) (#36)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Oct 05, 2015 at 02:05:30 PM EST
    She was always a twit.   However it seems to have gotten worse.  

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    On second thought, ... (none / 0) (#40)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Oct 06, 2015 at 06:01:35 PM EST
    ... I have to agree with you there. LOL!

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    Continuity. (none / 0) (#30)
    by lentinel on Mon Oct 05, 2015 at 09:38:23 AM EST
    On the heels of her lowest approval ratings in decades, and--in her words--the "drip, drip, drip" of unofficial State Department emails, the SNL visit appeared to be part of the "new efforts to bring spontaneity to a candidacy that sometimes seems wooden and overly cautious."

    It really worked for me.
    Rehearsed spontaneity.

    Here's a link to a famous example of a conscientious effort to bring spontaneity to a candidacy that sometimes seemed wooden...

    NIXON

    Perhaps an inspiration for all similar schticks that followed.

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    You know, sometimes one just needs to ... (none / 0) (#32)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Oct 05, 2015 at 12:09:02 PM EST
    ... go with a moment and then move on, rather than "analyze" that moment for reasons to be critical, which is what Ms. Cox is doing here.

    I suppose it's easy for Cox to play on the media's popular meme that Mrs. Clinton is such a calculating b!+ch that even her efforts to lighten it up a little are seen as entirely craven, rather than otherwise.

    It's certainly a lot less likely to draw the negative attention from her own peers than, let's say, writing about the candidate's recent proposal in the wake of the mass shooting at Roseburg, OR to tighten up our nation's firearms laws.

    But then, how best can we characterize a once-thoughtful writer who apparently now craves her own acceptance in the world of political punditry, that she'll simply go with the flow rather than march to the beat of her own drum?

    Aloha.

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    Tv sunday (none / 0) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Oct 04, 2015 at 08:00:44 AM EST
    Leftovers starts tonight

    The Strain and Fear the Walking Dead season finales

    American Horror Story on Wed.

    Hope this is not OT

    Don't want to take this thread OT (none / 0) (#24)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Oct 05, 2015 at 08:17:44 AM EST
    so if you would like to respond please do it in one of the two opens but I just wanted to follow this comment up by saying the season premier of Leftovers was - insert gushing adjective here.  Seriously.  I was blown away. From the stunning and cryptic opening sequence of birth and death in the Stone Age to the last scene.  I have never seen an atmosphere of creeping dread created more quickly and effectively.  Love to talk about it in another thread.

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    Sigh... (none / 0) (#5)
    by Dadler on Sun Oct 04, 2015 at 10:46:25 AM EST
    Love you, J, but have to disagree. This is empty personality politics of the highest order. This kind of sh*t is a big reason why the country has such a profoundly sick relationship with politics and its supposed political leaders. This is bizarro celebrity media conformity and issue-ignoring of a very weird sort. "I can go on SNL, but I can't debate my fellow nominees morning noon and night to obliterate the Republican nonsense." Pfft. She is acting far too entitled to the nomination to me, and has evidenced what we need the most and don't hear from any candidates, Bernie included: genuine political imagination.

    I'm not sold on Bernie, I'm not sold on Hillary, I'm not sold on anyone. And since we seem more interested in playing elect the homecoming queen/king, when we should be out in the streets every day willing to sacrifice our lives to make the country better, I'm sorry again, I just don't see it.

    We have to be willing to die in the streets right here at home, my fellow liberals. We have to line up against the cops and the rednecks and the pols, and we have to be willing to die.
    But as it stands, we're not, myself included. Plain and simple. We yap. And yap and yap. We do very little else.

    Dude, as a friend, lighten up. Seriously. (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Oct 04, 2015 at 10:57:24 AM EST
    Capt (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by CoralGables on Sun Oct 04, 2015 at 12:12:14 PM EST
    Today we agree.

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    I like the candidates to be human, (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Anne on Sun Oct 04, 2015 at 03:40:51 PM EST
    not way up on some pedestal, where they can be above the messy fray the rest of us live with and in.

    SNL humanizes them, shows us they aren't afraid to just be regular people.  I like seeing how they respond to this particular spotlight: can they be in the moment, let go of their inhibitions and just have fun?

    Not to mention that I like the idea that somewhere, Donald Trump was watching and a vein hidden by his cotton-candy "hair" was throbbing.

    I love you Dadler, love your passion and intensity, but sometimes, you know, a cigar is just a cigar, and it's okay to laugh.

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    Me too (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by BarnBabe on Sun Oct 04, 2015 at 06:52:37 PM EST
    They always make fun of candidates who are wooden, Al Gore, and this skit of all her SNL skits was good. She was one of us. Also, she went out of her political prepared speech mode even if it was a script. She could have been behind the bar in my cellar if I had a cellar. Miley's response was good too. I liked it.

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    "One of us, One of us..." (none / 0) (#20)
    by Mr Natural on Sun Oct 04, 2015 at 09:35:44 PM EST
    "We accept her; One of us; we accept her..."

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    but but but (none / 0) (#33)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Oct 05, 2015 at 01:36:47 PM EST
    She insulted Trump!

    That she hasn't answered all the questions doesn't matter.

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    No (none / 0) (#35)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Oct 05, 2015 at 01:57:35 PM EST
    the fact that she hasn't justified your conspiracy theories is all that matters.

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    Her Answer (none / 0) (#38)
    by Molly Bloom on Tue Oct 06, 2015 at 06:38:51 AM EST
    I think this is her answer to the committee.

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    Hillary's (none / 0) (#39)
    by FlJoe on Tue Oct 06, 2015 at 07:31:55 AM EST
    having a good week, I foresee an uptick in her poll numbers. With a solid debate performance and a good showing in front of Gowdy's "number cruncher" committee she should put Biden's Presidential dreams to rest.

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    Not sure how much uptick there can be (none / 0) (#42)
    by CoralGables on Tue Oct 06, 2015 at 10:26:10 PM EST
    Here are the last 4 national polls:

    PPP-Clinton +18
    IBD-Clinton +20
    USAT-Clinton +18
    Pew-Clinton +21

    And this is when everyone said she was slumping.

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    And those 4 all include Biden (none / 0) (#43)
    by CoralGables on Tue Oct 06, 2015 at 10:28:21 PM EST
    Without Biden the lead grows even more.

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    I (none / 0) (#44)
    by FlJoe on Wed Oct 07, 2015 at 05:42:07 AM EST
    said tick not surge, maybe not even apparent against the noise.

    More importantly she has owned news cycle in the first week of October with some positive and aggressive moves.

     

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    No doubt to some pundits, ... (none / 0) (#45)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Oct 07, 2015 at 08:00:45 PM EST
    ... Mrs. Clinton will continue to slump in the polls right up to the moment she claims victory in Nov. 2016 -- and likely beyond that, as well.

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    that was hilarious (none / 0) (#10)
    by The Addams Family on Sun Oct 04, 2015 at 04:12:29 PM EST
    & an ironic take on the question "Who would you rather have a beer with?"

    that said, i'm not willing to die for a more perfect country, unlike Dadler, but i do understand his disgust with our venal politicians & our trivial, head-in-the-sand politics

    the Bush/Obama presidency: 15+ years of incompetence, corruption, preening, & (especially since 2009) a free pass from the craven, besotted MSM

    meh

    Re your final paragraph: (5.00 / 2) (#19)
    by oculus on Sun Oct 04, 2015 at 09:30:32 PM EST
    surely you jest.  

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    The Other Woman (none / 0) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Oct 04, 2015 at 05:50:23 PM EST
    Is a presidential race with no Y chromosomes possible?

    Koch brothers, other wealthy GOP mega donors warm to Carly Fiorina

    I have never believed it would be Marco.  I just don't.  Carly makes a lot of sense from their point of view.  Considering the choices.  Anyone with a brain knows any of the men would lose to Hillary.  At least Carly would neutralize the "first woman" thing.  

    She lies too much, too often, (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Anne on Sun Oct 04, 2015 at 06:56:10 PM EST
    and I think that while that may be okay with some segment of the GOP, it's going to begin to be a problem.

    So far, there doesn't seem to be anything she won't lie about.

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    OH yeah (none / 0) (#14)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Oct 04, 2015 at 07:00:23 PM EST
    I don't think she would win a general.   Otoh lying is not that much of a problem for those guys.  Look who the front runner is.  Would be an interesting race though.  


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    Considering (none / 0) (#15)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Oct 04, 2015 at 07:40:22 PM EST
    how successful the Kochs have been when it comes to picking failures as candidates I would say that probably is the kiss of death to Carly.

    I find Marco hysterical in so many ways. He is repeating Obama circa 2008 almost verbatim.

    It seems to be anybody's guess as to who will rise should Trump fall.

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    Cruz in the political slipstream?? (none / 0) (#16)
    by christinep on Sun Oct 04, 2015 at 08:33:34 PM EST
    A scary thought...but, suddenly possible if Jeb "stuff happens" Bush and Marco "baby face pretzel" Rubio get pushed out.  Curioser & curioser.

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    Might be (none / 0) (#17)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Oct 04, 2015 at 08:54:56 PM EST
    It seems he's a tea party favorite. Certainly better liked among the tea party faction than Rubio.

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    I know that (none / 0) (#22)
    by lentinel on Mon Oct 05, 2015 at 04:50:32 AM EST
    the tomatoes will be a-comin' my way, and rightly so...
    but I just find this sort of humor so contrived and -- um - calculated.

    I have no problem finding HRC to be a genial person.

    But what this turn on SNL has to do with the price of eggs... I dunno.


    I feel very comfortable in saying (5.00 / 2) (#25)
    by CoralGables on Mon Oct 05, 2015 at 08:52:27 AM EST
    in no way does SNL alter the price of eggs.

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    I'm (none / 0) (#27)
    by lentinel on Mon Oct 05, 2015 at 09:25:22 AM EST
    glad we got that settled.

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    Hillary is in fund raising mode (none / 0) (#37)
    by ding7777 on Mon Oct 05, 2015 at 06:02:25 PM EST
    Any free positive publicity might get people to send her a contribution

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    In All Fairness... (none / 0) (#26)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Oct 05, 2015 at 09:21:10 AM EST
    ...HRC made as much, if not more, fun of herself as Donald in that skit.

    There was another skit that night in which Donald and his wife welcome the news crew into their home.  

    It's a total take down of Donald, pointing out that he loves immigrants when taking marriage vows and when he's not bashing them, his poll numbers drop, to which he replies something like 'Immigrants are eating your babies'.

    It will be interesting (none / 0) (#28)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Oct 05, 2015 at 09:30:00 AM EST
    To see if the Donald makes an appearance.   I don't think he does self effacement well.

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    No, and in the Hillary Skit... (none / 0) (#31)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Oct 05, 2015 at 11:53:46 AM EST
    ...you can tell Kate McKinnon is extremely nervous taking shots.

    The guy who does Donald, Taran Killam, would probably not show up for work that week, even though Donald has praised the skit.  I don't think he is capable of making fun of himself.

    Money quote from Donald skit "I'm just like you, but better"

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    From our "Twit in a Snit" file: (none / 0) (#41)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Oct 06, 2015 at 06:08:13 PM EST
    Mrs. Clinton pointedly ignores the obnoxious Mark Halperin at a campaign event. Attagirl!