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    My annual stash of Girl Scout Thin Mints (5.00 / 2) (#2)
    by caseyOR on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 01:35:11 PM EST
    arrived last night. Ummmm. Breakfast of Champions.

    Mine went right into the freezer as I am of the tribe who likes Thin Mints very chilled.

    I like most sweets chilled (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by McBain on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 01:43:00 PM EST
    My guilty pleasures include frozen Reese's peanut butter cups.  I'm trying to kick the habit but it's hard.

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    My dealer (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by jbindc on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 01:43:46 PM EST
    I mean, my coworker already got me 5 boxes - 3 Thin Mint and 2 Tagalongs.

    And I think the evil, I mean cute, little girls will be at the grocery store across the street this weekend.

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    My Friend Calls Them Snippers... (none / 0) (#24)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 02:31:14 PM EST
    ...because they are always waiting outside stores to get ya and you can't say no.

    Funny thing, everyone here buys them but me, but then I think they feel guilty about it and leave them in the breakroom for the community.  I eat them guilt free.

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    I just give them a couple bucks to put (none / 0) (#34)
    by Anne on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 02:50:09 PM EST
    in the contribution jar and skip the cookies; it's all profit for them, and I don't go home with calories we don't need.  

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    The troop (none / 0) (#48)
    by jbindc on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:31:55 PM EST
    Gets about 10-15% of every box sold, the local council gets about 70%, and the bandits get the rest.

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    Yep. (5.00 / 1) (#74)
    by Zorba on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 04:48:35 PM EST
    That's what I recall.
    Mr. Zorba always considered the whole GS Cookie thing almost a scam, because the local troops didn't get that much, and the Girl Scouts were using the girls to make money.
    Yes, our troop did get some money back, and the local Councils did use the money for some great things, like various Girl Scout Camps and other stuff.
    The individual girls did learn some great things, and made some great friends, and we provided ways for them to give back to their communities.
    But they mainly got......badges.
    When our kids joined 4-H, Mr. Zorba was much more impressed with it.  The kids still made friends, gave back to the community, and learned a lot.
    But no cookies to sell (we did some fund raisers, but the individual clubs got most of the money).
    And the kids got actual money, rather than badges.
    When my kids showed their stuff at the County Fair in the 4-H Building, they received money for the ribbons they won, the higher the ribbon, the more money they got.
    And when the kids had their livestock (which they had taken care of, worked with, and shown) auctioned off, the kids got that money.
    The kids also had to keep detailed track of what they did, how much they spent, and how much they earned.

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    I prefer (none / 0) (#88)
    by Peter G on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 07:13:48 PM EST
    Do-Si-Dos - peanut butter filling between two little oatmeal cookies.

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    I tell (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:35:50 PM EST
    all the girl scouts that the first one that hits my house has hit hte motherlode. My husband spends so much money on those things he's probably funding the local troop all by himself.

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    It's that time!... (none / 0) (#11)
    by kdog on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 01:48:57 PM EST
    I stopped by my moms last night, her co-worker musta got her good because she had thin mints in spades.  I stole a box;)

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    The Girl Scout cartel, er, organization (none / 0) (#13)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 01:52:14 PM EST
    has raised the price to $5/box this year, but we were jonesing bad, so we paid up no complaints.

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    My dealer must have been trying (none / 0) (#14)
    by caseyOR on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 01:56:07 PM EST
    to undercut the competition. I got my Thin Mints for $4/box.

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    They were (none / 0) (#20)
    by Zorba on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 02:11:22 PM EST
    $4/box here, too.

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    and some in the South only pay $3.50.

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    The prices are probably set (none / 0) (#33)
    by Zorba on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 02:49:15 PM EST
    By the councils.
    From the dim recesses of my memory, when I was a Girl Scout leader, our troop had to send the money to our local Council.  The troop itself got some of it.  Maybe 10-15% of the price, as I recall.


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    Evidently the price of the cookies (none / 0) (#47)
    by MO Blue on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:30:30 PM EST
    vary by region. Cookie are $4. a box here.

    Some Girl Scout regional councils are increasing prices on their cookies for the first time in a decade, Time reports. In San Diego, Orange County and Greater Los Angeles, a box of Thin Mints will cost you $5, up from $4 a year ago. In parts of the South, prices will rise to $4 a box from $3.50

    This increase will bring more money into local scout troops, about 27% more per box by their estimates. Each council sets prices in its own region (in the New York area, prices are staying at $4.)



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    Our neighbors have three daughters who ... (none / 0) (#21)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 02:15:24 PM EST
    ... have been Brownies and Girl Scouts. We're always the first ones who are hit up annually, and like heroin addicts, we fork over the cash in order to achieve temporary bliss. Personally, I prefer the lemon cookies and macaroons. Everyone else in our household likes the mints.

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    Aloha, Leonard Nimoy (1931-2015). (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 01:36:20 PM EST
    If Nimoy was a simply "pop culture figure" and "one-hit wonder" as some acerbic critics would insist, then he was one whose popularity and influence transcended several generations of fans for nearly half a century.

    The 83-year-old actor, who became known worldwide as the iconic Mr. Spock of the "Star Trek" TV series (1966-69) and subsequent films, died today Friday at home in Bel Air, CA of chronic obstructive pulmonary disorder.

    Nimoy once admitted to not having given much thought to the character of Mr. Spock when offered the part for the TV series. "It was a job," he once said in a TV interview, "and likely one that I figured wasn't going to last too long." Still, he received three successive Emmy nominations during the show's three-year run, before it was cancelled by NBC in 1969.

    But the show's cult following only grew rather than waned, and it proved so popular in syndication that the entire original cast was resurrected in 1979 as "Star Trek: The Motion Picture." Nimoy stayed with them for five more "Star Trek" films over the next 16 years, before they all retired their roles collectively in 1996 with the release of "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country."

    Nimoy came out of retirement in 2009 to once again reprise the role in the latest reboot of "Star Trek" films, as an elder Spock who through the act of time travel would eventually meet and mentor his younger and more headstrong self, as played by Zachary Quinto. Following the release of "Star Trek Into Darkness" in 2013, he announced that he had COPD and was retiring from the role, once and for all.

    He will be both missed and remembered.

    Nimoy was, by all accounts, (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by caseyOR on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 01:40:59 PM EST
    a very nice man who always treated Spock and Star Trek fans with kindness and respect. He may not have taken Spock all that seriously, all the time, but he took the fans seriously.

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    I think you will appreciate ... (none / 0) (#51)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:39:24 PM EST
    ... Charles Pierce's personal remembrance of the man in one of his blog posts today.

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    Can't you just imagine Spock (5.00 / 2) (#77)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 05:09:49 PM EST
    and Mork meeting up in the here after?

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    Spock would likely become annoyed, ... (none / 0) (#86)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 06:51:31 PM EST
    Very sad (5.00 / 3) (#29)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 02:38:59 PM EST
    like losing a old friend.  The Galaxy is a less interesting place today.

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    Nimoy was a very good actor. (none / 0) (#42)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:20:53 PM EST
    My favorite non-"Star Trek" role of his was David, the malevolent pop psychiatrist in the 1978 remake of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers," a film which in my opinion is easily the equal of the much-praised original.

    He also played opposite Ingrid Bergman as Gold Meir's estranged husband on the 1982 TV miniseries, "A woman Called Golda," and was quite memorable as an Aushwitz death camp survivor who took a bunch of holocaust denialists to court in the 1991 film "Never Forget."

    And of course, Leonard Nimoy had a camp sensibility, and he wasn't above spoofing his "Star Trek" alter ago, as he did in a voice cameo as a tiny Spock doll who torments Sheldon in "The Big Bang Theory."

     Aloha.

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    'Saw him on stage once (5.00 / 1) (#78)
    by christinep on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 05:10:57 PM EST
    as Sherlock Holmes in the "Seven Percent Solution."  (He fit that role well, also.)

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    I was just looking at his IMDB list (none / 0) (#50)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:36:23 PM EST
    wow.  What a legacy.  Beginning the year I was born.  On Queen For A Day.  My mom loved that show.

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    He has gone ... (none / 0) (#114)
    by desertswine on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 10:18:02 PM EST
    to where all men, finally, must go.

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    One of the top 10 sci fi charaters of all time (none / 0) (#9)
    by McBain on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 01:46:25 PM EST
    in my book. I still cry every time I watch him die at the end of Wrath of Kahn.  

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    As I walked out the door this AM (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 01:47:11 PM EST
    my wife and kids were watching the news on ch 5 (KTLA) and they and the newscasters were enjoying video and story of a couple llamas that got loose and went on a light-hearted romp on the streets of Sun City, AZ, for and hour or so this AM. "Llama Drama."

    Anyway, the story ended well. In true 'Murica fashion a pickup truck pulled up next to them and a guy standing in the bed of the truck with a lasso threw it over their heads and caught them up quick as you please.

    It was pretty cool to see.

    The kicker was after the story the newscasters cut to a photo of Brian Williams and on the photo he is quoted as saying "So there I was, chasing the llamas."

    Best Llama line (5.00 / 2) (#25)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 02:33:18 PM EST
    "naturally they caught the black one first"

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    Ha! (none / 0) (#30)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 02:39:04 PM EST
    The Llama video (none / 0) (#12)
    by jbindc on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 01:50:55 PM EST
    Was pretty entertaining.

    #TherapyLlamas

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    Speaking of weird (5.00 / 3) (#19)
    by Reconstructionist on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 02:09:51 PM EST
     'm sure some of you have seen the "what color is this dress" thing. I first saw it at luch when CNN did a report. It looked blue and black to me (which the dress really is). I though it was interesting so when I got back to the office I looked at

    CNN.com

     Where it looks white and gold to me.

      That buttressed my initial thought  that people were seeing  different colors based on the properties of the monitor they were viewing or the lighting, shadows angle from their vantage.. But, I read that people together in the same room looking at  it on the same monitor at the same time and obviously under the same conditions see it as different colors.

      I'm thinking this might be useful the next time I have an eyewitness identification issue.

    I saw white and gold originally (5.00 / 2) (#22)
    by jbindc on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 02:16:59 PM EST
    Then, when I saw the dress on a model on the Today Show website. It clearly was black and blue, and as I scrolled up the page to the picture that's circulating the Internet, it was also black and blue - and then it started changing back to white and good before my very eyes!

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    Lordy...I read an explanation (5.00 / 4) (#23)
    by Anne on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 02:27:06 PM EST
    here, and it still makes no sense to me.

    I'm going with: it's magic!  I have old eyes!  Thank God we can stop pondering the meaning of life and busy ourselves with whether we're white/gold people or blue/black people!  Or both.  Or neither.

    The psychiatrist would ask, "what color do you want it to be?"

    Okay, that's it.  It's Friday, and my brain needs to stop wrestling with these existential alligators!

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    Makes perfect sense to me (5.00 / 1) (#141)
    by ZtoA on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 12:18:36 PM EST
    It's rather obvious actually. The key is in the background colors and values. Beyond that the RGB values (light and dark) of different monitors is important.

    A neurosurgeon just gave me a book called "Vision and Art, the Biology of Seeing" M Livingstone. Should go nicely with another book I'm reading.

    And there is lots to do with looking at colors and values on a computer monitor (or one's smart phone etc). If one is looking in a very bright sun filled environment one tends to turn the light settings way up and sitting in a dark room or at night one tends to turn them down. How much light is being projected thru an image or color changes them.

    And once we can get thru some of the science of color perception on a screen, then we at some point come to how our visual cortexes work (on us). Talk about an existential alligator! Our very own minds can process information in contradictory ways. So much for the "I'll believe what I see" 'certainty'. :)

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    Nobody talks about the individuality (none / 0) (#194)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:48:59 PM EST
    Of sight perception like you do other than my husband.  It is odd to have two sight geeks in my life.  Heck, it's odd to have one.

    We are redoing a bathroom right now.  Putting in a white freestanding soaking tub.  I am thinking about painting grays and ivory trim.  I will paint three walls two or three complimentary grays.  

    I found a sink that I love and it is on sale, probably because it is so odd.  It is black glass but toward the center is foiled in a turquoise and it is very "crazed".  I love the sink and they are practically giving it away.  I thought about painting the small wall on the side of the sink a very pale turquoise.  Going with washable flat I think, satin trim.  Any tips you might give me like "Not that sink!" :)

    All my husband's study is in line, shape, and forms.  Nothing about color or hue.  He's a little hue challenged I like to think.  He just doesn't perceive as many hues as I do.  But is perception reality?

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    Ha! IMO perception is reality to the one(s) (5.00 / 1) (#199)
    by ZtoA on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 10:45:28 PM EST
    who are perceiving. But often, one perception of reality communicates to others.

    And I am rather alone in my fascinations about sight, color and value (lights and darks), brain perceptions of the visual spectrum of light waves....and well, and so on and so on. My friends who can talk about this with me are 1) a chemist 1) a physicist 3) a brain scientist and surgeon. Most artists could not care less. Legal and military inquiries into perception are connected - at least for my fascination on the subject.

    When I moved into this house it was a great deal - $ wise (I always like to work with some restriction - like a great sale!). There was/is a large central hearth made of variegated brick. It was too variegated for my taste. So over the next several months, when I had some time, I took out a small #1 round brush and stained parts to come into balance. I think that something that is (visually and maybe in many other areas) out of balance that is brought gently into balance yields the most rewarding results.

    Now, when strangers come into my house they often will say something about this large hearth - and often they allude to how expensive it looks. Haha! It was cheap brick and only took me several months of an hour here or there with a tiny brush and the appropriate paints to make it work.

    So, if you love the sink keep it. Greys and off whites are great structure (value scales) to extend and soften a pattern (but a loved pattern that is alive to you can be the basis for it all - nice to have something alive at the start). And any hue/color you add (and it can be seasonal or whatever someone gives you for some gift or whatever) will have the support of all of the other value and color(less) structures you build to support it. OK I have to stop now, tho I could go on and on.

    One more bit - in action it is the rods that are important - fast perception of lights and darks in low light. So far the US military (and most) are concerned with those visual situations. But high light environments yield cone perceptions which are what we call 'color' perceptions. They move much slower too. I think (I may be wrong) that male military training is to hone the value (light/dark fast moving) visual spectrum perceptions. I would be very interested in those trainings/studies moving into high light/slow moving hue perceptions.

    OK NOW I'm going to stop. :)

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    You have opened my mind to (5.00 / 1) (#200)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 11:10:51 PM EST
    Hanging different turquoise items on the side wall.  No need to sweat paint so much.  Thank you!!!!

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    Just hire (none / 0) (#27)
    by Zorba on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 02:37:17 PM EST
    Elizabeth Loftus as an expert witness.


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    ah, (none / 0) (#31)
    by Reconstructionist on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 02:42:25 PM EST
     although memory and visual  perception both involve the brain they are distinct issues.

      And, her work on the Libby ace was less than impressive. Eliminate all the jargon and it was "busy people might forget stuff."

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    a summary (none / 0) (#32)
    by Reconstructionist on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 02:47:28 PM EST
    Good to know. (none / 0) (#35)
    by Zorba on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 02:51:48 PM EST
    n/t

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    To clarify (none / 0) (#40)
    by Reconstructionist on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:12:08 PM EST
     She testified at a pretrial Daubert hearing where a judge acts as a "gatekeeper" and must determine whether there is a sufficient scientific basis underlying proposed expert testimony and whether that  expert testimony would be "helpful" to the jury. After her performance the judge would not allow Libby to call a memory expert at trial.

      Walton's memorandum opinion

       

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    It;s big water cooler talk here... (none / 0) (#37)
    by kdog on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 02:55:20 PM EST
    but I ain't playin'...I'm confused enough as it is.

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    Hey, kdog! (none / 0) (#45)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:27:32 PM EST
    Hmmmm (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:21:13 PM EST
    Mummified monk in Mongolia 'not dead', say Buddhists

    A mummified monk found preserved in Mongolia last week has been baffling and astounding those who uncovered him.

    Senior Buddhists say the monk, found sitting in the lotus position, is in a deep meditative trance and not dead.

    Forensic examinations are under way on the remains, found wrapped in cattle skins in north-central Mongolia.

    Scientists have yet to determine how the monk is so well preserved, though some think Mongolia's cold weather could be the reason.

    But Dr Barry Kerzin, a physician to Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama, told the Siberian Times that the monk was in a rare state of meditation called "tukdam".




    The stories he could tell... (none / 0) (#56)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:46:11 PM EST
    As Buddhist beliefs go (none / 0) (#108)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 08:45:41 PM EST
    It makes perfect sense that he could still be alive.

    And Bill Maher can really put the comedic boots to us.  The jokes are writing themselves.

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    Occasionally, you read about someone (none / 0) (#117)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 07:27:27 AM EST
    or a group of Christian cultists in America who is/are found holed up with a dead body that they think will come back to life.  This is a similar situation, IMHO.

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    Not even close (none / 0) (#119)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 08:08:42 AM EST
    He is in a state of divine bliss (none / 0) (#123)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:20:01 AM EST
    No Buddhist wants him to wake up ever.  He has attained what we all hope to attain.  But based on what we believe, in our minds he imay not be dead yet.

    You are speaking of people (I'm not sure who because I don't recall occassional Christian cults hanging out with dead bodies waiting for a new Lazurus) who are waiting for the acknowledged dead to return.  Some Buddhists, the most observant and practicing super meditation, are saying this man may have achieved super monkdom and hasn't even died yet.  He's just hanging out in bliss, the thread was never severed.

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    When he wakes up (5.00 / 2) (#126)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:35:50 AM EST
    and finds out about all the TV he has to catch up on plus hot and cold running water and Internet porn IMO he will definitely think he has achieved nirvana?

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    There is a lot to distract a good man (5.00 / 1) (#127)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:38:27 AM EST
    From his meditations these days.

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    The House just rejected (5.00 / 1) (#75)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 04:51:05 PM EST
    stopgap funding for Homekand Security.  About 7 hours to go.   Trying to imagine what would happen if they do nothing and there is some kind of attack tomorrow.  I assume terrorists watch the news too.

    They (none / 0) (#90)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 07:29:46 PM EST
    want a terrorist attack so they can blame Obama for it probably.

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    Good luck with that (none / 0) (#92)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 07:34:21 PM EST
    GOP.  with half the republicans in the country saying to anyone who will point a camera at them that what they are doing us dangerous and insane.

    PS
    Senate just passed a one week funding and adjourned the senate until Monday.  Your move Boner.

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    If anyone is keeping score (none / 0) (#112)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 09:06:51 PM EST
    they just passed a one week extension

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    Homeland Security probably does (5.00 / 2) (#115)
    by fishcamp on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 06:36:31 AM EST
    something good somewhere, but down here they just roar around in their big a$$ boats and scare all the fish, while looking for dangerous floating Cubans and Haitians.

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    Putin critic (5.00 / 1) (#83)
    by Zorba on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 06:09:59 PM EST
    Boris Nemtsov was shot to death.
    Link.
    Well, this one wasn't poisoned with polonium, like Alexander Litvinenko was.
    Of course, Nemtsov was still in Russia, unlike Litvinenko.

    Putin is the kind of leader the right wing... (none / 0) (#103)
    by desertswine on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 08:11:21 PM EST
    can get behind.
    "[H]e makes a decision and he executes it, quickly. And then everybody reacts. That's what you call a leader," Giuliani said.


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    Ain't that (5.00 / 1) (#105)
    by Zorba on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 08:36:00 PM EST
    the truth?  Sadly.  :-(


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    VFX Secrets Behind 'Birdman' Finally Revealed (5.00 / 2) (#87)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 07:05:15 PM EST
    LINK

    In order to bridge the moments between individual scenes, VFX were used to extend one shot to get to the next. CG was used in some cases to create CG windows, doorways or backgrounds; in other instances, VFX involved painting things out of a frame. "We were limited in the amount of reframing we could do," Soles said, noting that Lubezki and Inarritu preplanned the framing of the shots. "We had to reconstruct what was missing."
    The pair said Rodeo FX also contributed to the pacing, explaining that it had to slow down or speed up the shots to match the drum beat in the score.
    To create the Birdman character in shots in which he appeared alongside Katon, the actor first was filmed reading the Birdman lines against a green screen. For the shoot, a stunt double was used for Birdman, and then the VFX team replaced the face with a CG version of Keaton's face.
    More "traditional" VFX work also involved creating CG backgrounds such as the reflections in the dressing room mirrors. (Without that, the production crew would have appeared in the reflections). And in the scene during which Keaton gets angry in his dressing room and appears to telekinetically move things like posters and chairs, those objects were all CG creations.

    I know a couple of people at Rodeo.

    I used to work with Chivo. (none / 0) (#98)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 07:59:06 PM EST
    Net neutrality (5.00 / 1) (#120)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 08:18:01 AM EST
    produces yet another meltdown from conservatives. I just how to wonder why they aren't criticizing it based on the merits instead of screeching how "Obama is taking over the internet".

    So beautiful here this morning (5.00 / 1) (#128)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:56:17 AM EST
    not snowing really hard very little wind.   Just big fluffy snowflakes drifting lazily to a perfect pristine blanket of white. Like being inside a snow globe.

    Female muslim antihero? (5.00 / 1) (#202)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 01, 2015 at 08:38:36 AM EST
    Female fictional characters conceptualised in the Muslim world are either veiled or portrayed as meek and oppressed in the public eye. However, Lahore-based Shahan Zaidi's debut superhero can finally help combat these stereotypes.

    The main character of Zaidi's English-language graphic novel Bloody Nasreen is a 27-year-old girl from Karachi who wears skull-printed kameez with churidar and sneakers - none of what girls her age would wear. She's an anti-hero you're not supposed to like. Her smoking habits and aggressive nature are aimed to p*** you off.

    Graphic novel coming to a miniseries near you soon.
    This one just occurred to me.

    The IRS scandal (none / 0) (#1)
    by jbindc on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 01:22:31 PM EST
    This scandal just isn't going away (none / 0) (#4)
    by McBain on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 01:40:31 PM EST
    It's obvious the IRS has something to hide but I'm pessimistic we'll ever know exactly what.

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    It is obvious that he lied. (none / 0) (#76)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 05:06:05 PM EST
    Koskinen testified last year that the IRS lost years worth of Lerner's emails after her laptop's hard drive crashed in June 2011. He said the IRS erased and recycled the device after trying unsuccessfully to recover the data.

    Or was lied to because the info has been found exactly where you would expect it to be.

    Either way the fish rots from the head down.

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    Yep, I'm sure that this "scandal" (none / 0) (#116)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 07:22:14 AM EST
    will make a big difference in the 2016 Presidential race

    not.

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    Oh Scott Walker! (none / 0) (#8)
    by jbindc on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 01:44:53 PM EST
    Elect Scott Walker president, (5.00 / 3) (#61)
    by KeysDan on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:54:00 PM EST
    and our ISIS worries are over.  Scott says that if he can handle 100,000 protestors he can defeat ISIS.  Wonder if Scott's strategy would be promise ISIS right to work laws in the new Caliphate?

    Walker's office later clarified for those who may have misinterpreted Walker, that he was not comparing any American citizen to ISIS.  No word on if he was comparing any ISIS to an American protestor.

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    Head::desk. (none / 0) (#17)
    by Anne on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 02:00:47 PM EST
    There's something terribly wrong with this man; I can only hope he's about one more stupid policy position away from becoming irrelevant.

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    At some point, I would hope that ... (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 02:54:36 PM EST
    ... the media would get over their enchantment with Scott Walker and actually take a good, hard look at him.

    After all, this is a man who only a few weeks ago looked Iowa conservatives squarely in the eye and claimed with a straight face that he had cleaned up "the culture of corruption" in Milwaukee County as its elected chief executive, even though the facts clearly tell a far different story.

    This guy is a political flim-flam artist.

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    Donald (none / 0) (#57)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:47:22 PM EST
    conservatives never question anything they are told. Either that or they prefer to be lied to. Take your pick I guess. I've never seen such in my entire life. The GOP really isn't a political party anymore. It's an apocalyptic cult.

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    I believe you. (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:48:09 PM EST
    I don't give a crap about CPAC junkies. (5.00 / 1) (#84)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 06:37:32 PM EST
    They aren't at all representative of the American electorate, and can pretend that they're Wendy and Walker's Peter Pan, for all I care. It's our media which I'm concerned about. The GOP presently has three major presidential hopefuls who are either under indictment or under investigation for public corruption, of which Scott Walker is one. Yet they're being presented by most of the media to the general public as though they have clean slates.

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    Who does the media pick? (none / 0) (#147)
    by christinep on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 02:09:40 PM EST
    In recent days, my bet is that the media--if the Washington Post is any indication--will go fairly solidly for Jeb Bush. The basis for my bet: The number of stories, columns doing the take down on the principal opponents.  

    First, the strongly negative reporting a few weeks back covering Chris Christie resembled a pile-on; Second, the equally strong negative reporting the past week or so covering Scott Walker is starting to be a pile-on.  Since I cannot stand the union-busting, anti-teacher and public employees posturing that is Scott Walker's hallmark and since I cannot abide the blustering bully Chris Christie, it has given me some laughs to watch their obvious mistakes and the inevitable fall.  Then, I began to wonder at the intensity and amount of WashPo give-it-to-'em coverage (see, especially, Dana Milbank and The Fix as well as the usual roster of columnists.) It began to look like wallpaper.  (Although there have been jabs here & there as to the slippery Rand Paul, that has let up.  My guess is that his Repub primary strength has yet to be assessed now that the big donor $$$$ may have moved elsewhere.)

    Meanwhile, in my estimation, there have been the rather soft-glove stories about Jeb Bush--exception is the Columba Bush narrative about her expensive tastes.  Today, the WashPo seems to have discovered a new Jeb Bush ... a confident and good campaigner and all that.  Where, I wondered?  Well, at CPAC.  Huh?  That's what The Fix tells us (and Milbank is softer too.)  Not that I follow CPAC, but ... what do those primary-voting rightwingers who attend those CPAC conventions think?  No matter. It may be that the Washington Post is deftly starting to tell them what they think. :)

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    I agree that Jeb will be the media's (none / 0) (#151)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 05:08:59 PM EST
    choice just as McCain and Romney were.

    Not because they liked them.

    But because that much of the Repub base is likely to stay home again as it did in 2008, 2012 and did over Bush's immigration bill support in 2006....which gave the Demos control of both houses.

    But this time I'm not sure that the media has enough influence to push Jeb through the goal posts. Facebook and hundreds of Tea Party groups have more influence.

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    I (5.00 / 1) (#156)
    by FlJoe on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 05:49:32 PM EST
    am thinking that the media will keep the horse race alive for as long as possible. Much like McCain and Romney the base has no love for Bush, this will keep Walker and others afloat for quite awhile. The last thing the media wants right now an "inevitable"  Bush-Clinton match up. The media is a long way from picking a winner, in fact they will probably do their best to keep it close.

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    From your lips (5.00 / 1) (#158)
    by Yman on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 06:01:17 PM EST
    Please, please, Puh-LEEEEZE let the GOP base pick a wingnut Tea Party candidate!

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    So you want (5.00 / 1) (#181)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:07:42 PM EST
    a knee jerk candidate? Not surprised since most tea partiers are nothing if not knee jerkers.

    I hate to tell you though the GOP is already crining at Walker. He's a loon who said people protesting are the same as ISIS. It's interesting to find out that you embrace somebody who thinks he can just scream at ISIS and they will go away.

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    Knee jerk?? (none / 0) (#195)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:53:45 PM EST
    Nope. I'd like to see a clear choice. Say Walker and Rubio.

    And I say you folks are scared spit less of a clear choice ticket versus a "me too" tandem.

    BTW - No. He used an analogy. The only people upset by it are the media and the Left. But go ahead and double down. All he has done is win 3 elections in a blue state when the Left was throwing everything possible at him.

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    Can they unite? (none / 0) (#157)
    by Politalkix on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 06:00:49 PM EST
    "Facebook and hundreds of Tea Party groups have more influence."

    Can they unite behind a single candidate? That is the important question. Otherwise the media will once again be able to push Jeb past the goal posts.

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    I don't think they will accept Jeb. (none / 0) (#167)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 07:47:20 PM EST
    Or Christie.

    They would accept Walker, who is looking better every time the Left attacks him.

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    Ex-ACT-ly (5.00 / 1) (#178)
    by Yman on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 08:54:03 PM EST
    Jeb and Christie are seen by the wingers as too moderate - they want a Tea Partier like Walker.

    Scott Walker, God's Gift to the Democratic Party


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    The reason (none / 0) (#160)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 06:06:36 PM EST
    why the GOP lost the presidential election in 2008 and 2012 had nothing to do with the GOP base sitting home. The problem is that the GOP doesn't have enough of a base to win a presidential election anymore and the GOP is very good at running off voters. And the GOP base of voters is shrinking

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    Correct (none / 0) (#162)
    by FlJoe on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 06:22:54 PM EST
    the shrinking base is quickly becoming inconsequential in the general while remaining almost pivotal in the primaries. This leads to the quadrennial circus we have come to expect from the Republicans.

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    True (none / 0) (#163)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 06:46:13 PM EST
    and it has already become a freak show. Much quicker than I anticipated for sure. I guess the short primary season is making all of them start jockeying for votes way before anybody votes.

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    Actually (none / 0) (#164)
    by FlJoe on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 07:00:30 PM EST
    they are much more about jockeying for cold hard cash right now, no serious candidate can afford to get behind on that count.

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    Funny, Jim (none / 0) (#161)
    by Politalkix on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 06:17:45 PM EST
    "But because that much of the Repub base is likely to stay home again as it did in 2008, 2012"

    I thought that the Repub base could be made to crawl over broken glass to vote, not for the love of the GOP candidate but for ther hate of BHO. Please tell me it ain't so :-).

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    It ain't so, Politalkix (none / 0) (#168)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 07:50:47 PM EST
    They'll bitch and moan and complain and stay home.

    That's why the Left want Bush or Christie as a candidate.

    I'd like to see Walker because he would give the country a clear choice and we would know who has been FOS for the next 19 months,

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    Walker will crash and burn (5.00 / 1) (#173)
    by nycstray on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 08:11:15 PM EST
    on the national stage. Bring 'im on . . .

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    Comparing going against (none / 0) (#172)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 08:08:37 PM EST
    public sector unions like fighting ISIS?

    I think we already know who will be FOS for the next 19 months.

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    To your point (none / 0) (#82)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 06:00:33 PM EST
    i think this is exactly the reason Walker is a player.  He can put a happy corporate smiley face on the Apocolyptic cult without offending it.

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    To a point (none / 0) (#91)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 07:32:19 PM EST
    very true. If he goes up against Hillary she will not be shy about turning him into mincemeat. And if the GOP thinks they are going to scandal monger into the election Walker is the worst one to put up.

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    Don't (none / 0) (#121)
    by FlJoe on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 08:41:19 AM EST
    count on the press to out him for his previous political shenanigans and his bullying governing style. Even if he is called on some of it, he can just blow it off as the liberal media out to get him, the base will gobble that crap up.

    His two main problems are his own gaffes, his dog whistle playing needs some work, and of course Bush's oppo team.

    The Republican base wants a bully, Walker is one. He is not a schoolyard bully ala Christie, more like a Mafia capo (for his Koch brother dons).

    Bush, charter member of the neo-cons, will remain strong throughout the race with the backing of the MIC. He has a superior political organization. I expect him to pound away on FP and commander in chief issues. His team will have to steer clear of Walkers more "unsavory" aspects which happen to be red meat for the base.

    The media of course will play it however necessary to keep the race close (sad but true)

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    His main vulnerability (none / 0) (#122)
    by Politalkix on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:16:33 AM EST
    as you said will be his own gaffes or what I would call the "Rick Perry problem". Perry was soaring in the polls till some doubts started creeping in even among the fanatical base about his debating capabilities.

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    If (none / 0) (#129)
    by FlJoe on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 10:20:52 AM EST
    IIRC the media jumped all in on his goofiness. His opponents were all to willing to point out their relative intelligence, perceived "smarts" is a must for politicians of all stripes.

    While Perry's problem was letting is inner "dumbness" show through, Walker keeps letting his inner "meanness" out. It was easy for the media to pick on Perry, his oops moment was comedy gold as it sunk his campaign, fun stuff. I just don't know how the media will handle Walker's darkside. In any case his opponents will be reluctant to pile on. To paraphrase Dylan the route to the Republican nomination is one of toil and blood.

    Where  meanness is a virtue and the road is full of mud.

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    Don't (5.00 / 2) (#80)
    by FlJoe on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 05:35:09 PM EST
    underestimate him, there is something very Nixonian about him. His hippie punching, union busting, moral stances and willingness to suck up to big money pretty much covers all the bases for the Republicans. In many ways he is the perfect modern conservative.

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    Agree (5.00 / 1) (#81)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 05:44:41 PM EST
    starting to think he just might be the last one standing.   The right loves him.  

    That said, he will lose in the general.

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    He's downright (none / 0) (#55)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:46:10 PM EST
    creepy.

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    Stephen Hawking thinks 3 things could destroy us (none / 0) (#15)
    by McBain on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 01:57:12 PM EST
    http://tinyurl.com/pcx2gcj

    Artificial Intelligence
    Human Aggression
    Alien Life

    Interesting but all of these were predicted by sci fi authors years ago.  

    I don't see how anyone who (none / 0) (#16)
    by caseyOR on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 02:00:21 PM EST
    has seen Kubrik's 2001 could not be worried about the dangers from AI. And HAL was pretty primitive by today's standards.

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    "Open the pod bay doors, HAL." (none / 0) (#18)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 02:08:49 PM EST
    "I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that."

    LINK.

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    Transcendence (none / 0) (#28)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 02:37:32 PM EST
    is a pretty good AI movie.  It makes the point that once computers start making computers they will evolve thousands of times faster than natural evolution.

    interesting and thought provoking if not exactly good movie.

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    Side note (none / 0) (#38)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 02:58:40 PM EST
    it was the first directorial effort by a guy named Wally Pfister who has a long list of credits as a cinematographer so it's shot very well.

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    The thing About Arttificial Intelligence... (none / 0) (#39)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:03:12 PM EST
    ...IMO is when it starts learning, the curve will be almost non-existent, when it happens, it will be over before we know what the hell is going on.

    Funny that Hawkins didn't mention over population, like Easter Island on a Global scale.  That IMO is almost a certainty.

    World Population:
    1804 1 Billion
    1974 4 Billion - 170 years to add 3 Billion
    2012 7 Billion - 38 years to add 3 Billion

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    Nor disease/virus/infection... (none / 0) (#41)
    by kdog on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:18:52 PM EST
    mentioned either, I would think that's a big threat...ties in to over-population.  It's Mother Nature's only recourse, aside from our own nature.

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    She Got More Than One... (none / 0) (#53)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:41:37 PM EST
    ...trick up her sleeve.

    A Super Volcano would wipe out most of the population, directly and indirectly, meaning that the darkened sky would decrease the food supply substantially.

    Yellowstone is over due:

    The volcano erupts with a near-clockwork cycle of every 600,000 years. The last eruption was more than 640,000 years ago...


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    If I'm not mistaken... (none / 0) (#62)
    by kdog on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:55:09 PM EST
    that's one of the popular theories for the extinction of the dinosaurs.

    That would be rough way to go...choking in the dark looking for food, dodging roving bands of cannibals.  Or worse, becoming one!

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    Dinosaurs Were Wiped Out By... (5.00 / 1) (#66)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:59:54 PM EST
    ...a meteor hitting the Yucatan.  But the last time Yellowstone erupted it left ash all over Texas.  But the ash also goes into the atmosphere, like in Iceland, but for a Super Volcano it blocks the sunlight for the entire planet, and basically everything dies and it gets very cold for a couple years.  A nuclear winter.

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    Scientists have postulated that ... (none / 0) (#95)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 07:39:06 PM EST
    ... the massive and explosive eruption of Mt. Tambora in the Netherlands East Indies (present-day Indonesia) in late 1815 pumped enough volcanic ash into the atmosphere that the earth's entire northern hemisphere experienced a very sharp short-term cooling trend the following year, which was why people who experienced it called 1816 "The Year Without Summer."

    Speaking from personal experience, our relatively close proximity to Kilauea, which has been erupting nonstop for over thirty years now, has occasional had a significant adverse impact upon our own local atmospherics. Prolonged exposure to sulfur dioxide isn't good for living things. Whenever Kilauea's plumes veer over Oahu, my eyes develop a distinct burning sensation.

    Aloha.

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    Malthus (none / 0) (#46)
    by Reconstructionist on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:28:09 PM EST
    hypothesized in the 18th century that population growth was unsustainable because growth in the production of  food and  natural resources could not keep pace.

      Yet, our world of 7 billion is better fed, clothed, warmed, etc than was the world of less than 1 billion in which he lived.

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    Right Because We Have Been Able... (5.00 / 1) (#68)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 04:15:18 PM EST
    ...to grow the food supply faster than the population growth.  The crops grown back then were nothing compared to the genetically altered super crops of today.  Same with preservation and indoor growing.  And we use much more of the plants that in yester year.

    That will keep happening, the problem is natural resources.  Things like freshwater, air, timber, and iron, more or less, finite.  At some point technology will stop outpacing population, which of course will decrease the population rate.

    I am not making any prediction when that will occur, but it will happen.  Definitely not in my lifetime.  And if current affairs are any indication, no one is truly interested in ensuring the planet and it's resources are used wisely and moderately.

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    We are able to grow (5.00 / 2) (#110)
    by Zorba on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 08:56:34 PM EST
    our food supply faster now. For the time being.
    One of the other things that we should be worrying about, besides the things you mention, Scott, is our increasing reliance on monoculture.
    When we find a crop that produces well, this crop is cultivated to the exclusion of other cultivars.
    The problem with this is, if a virus or fungus or anything else develops that devastates that crop, we are screwed.  That cultivar will be devastated, and we had better be ready to replace it with other cultivars that are immune to whatever killed off that monoculture crop.
    Oh and, by the way, we had better be concerned in this country with the honey bee Colony Collapse Disorder.
    This is not just important because we might not have as much honey, but because:

    Bee pollination is responsible for more than $15 billion in increased crop value each year. About one mouthful in three in our diet directly or indirectly benefits from honey bee pollination. Commercial production of many specialty crops like almonds and other tree nuts, berries, fruits and vegetables depend on pollination by honey bees. These are the foods that give our diet diversity, flavor, and nutrition.

    Honey bees are not native to the New World; they came from Europe with the first settlers. There are native pollinators in the United States, but honey bees are more prolific and easier to manage on a commercial level for pollination of a wide variety of crops. Almonds, for example, are completely dependent on honey bees for pollination. In California, the almond industry requires the use of 1.4 million colonies of honey bees, approximately 60 percent of all managed honey bee colonies in the United States


    Link.
    And to learn more about monoculture, see this.

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    Just saw this (5.00 / 2) (#111)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 09:03:14 PM EST
    LINK

    Even as they try to help the bees, people may inadvertently poison them by planting pesticide-laden plants purchased from big-box garden centers, suggests a new report.
    More than half of ostensibly bee-friendly plants sampled at 18 Home Depot, Lowe's and Walmart garden centers in the U.S. and Canada contained high levels of neonicotinoids, which are considered highly toxic to bees, butterflies and other insect pollinators.


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    My yards are bee friendly organic :D (5.00 / 1) (#142)
    by nycstray on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 12:29:41 PM EST
    I have a few different variety of bees. I also have  butterfly friendly yards. And the hummingbirds like it out there too. Friendly little guys . . .

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    Probably (none / 0) (#70)
    by Reconstructionist on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 04:18:33 PM EST
    .. unless of course  one of the likely or at least possible causes of "destruction" occurs first.

      Predicting the future is very much "science fiction" not science.

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    If I was predicting (none / 0) (#72)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 04:24:51 PM EST
    i would bet on a virus or plague of some kind.  Which would be the earths own way of dealing with the problem.  

    Of course there are those who say humans are not mammals but in fact themselves a virus.  

    Agent Smith: I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure.


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    An extremely deadly virus (none / 0) (#152)
    by ragebot on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 05:11:48 PM EST
    Has problems spreading because it kills folks too fast and they can't infect others before they die.

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    HIV (none / 0) (#175)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 08:42:01 PM EST
    A variation that spread more easily who work pretty well.

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    They say (none / 0) (#71)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 04:20:32 PM EST
    Well, some of us are, for sure. (none / 0) (#54)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:43:06 PM EST
    But there are countless others who might beg to differ.

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    Of course there are STILL (none / 0) (#58)
    by Reconstructionist on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:47:43 PM EST
      extremely poor people. They existed then as well and the underfed were a higher proportion of the population. It wasn't primarily a third world problem then either, Europe and the British Isles suffered through many famines.

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    Scary to think that Hawkings (none / 0) (#44)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:26:34 PM EST
    most enduring legacy might be warning us about sending aliens a map to find us.   I saw him talk about this once.  When you are lost in a dark forest it may not be the best idea to call out.  Good point.

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    On a semi related note (none / 0) (#52)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:41:27 PM EST
    i was watching some DVRed science channel show recently and they were explaining how much space is in space.  It used the example of the sun being the size of a grain of sand.  The closest next grain of sand, Alpha Centauri, would be over 5 miles away.

    Still trying to get my head around that.


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    I believe It's 2 Light Years... (5.00 / 1) (#63)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:55:11 PM EST
    ...which means if we could travel at the speed of light, we would still have to figure out how to support life in space for two years w/o supplies just to reach the nearest star.

    To scale that, it takes the sun's light 9 mins to hit Earth.

    The Milky Way I believe is 100k light years across.

    Voyager I will hit the Ort Cloud in 300 years, but it will take another 30,000 to clear it.  the Ort Cloud is basically the edge of our solar system and it will take ~ 30,000 years for a man made object to get there.

    The energy to travel long distances, even by bending space/time is so great that IMO we will never see another life form that is bigger than a microbe found on a meteor.

    I think science fiction distorts perceptions about space travel and more importantly, the dangers found outside Earths cosmic shield.

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    Most sci fi films/TV shows have (5.00 / 1) (#85)
    by McBain on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 06:51:00 PM EST
    artificial gravity, suspended hybernation, life like robots, faster than light travel.... without really explaining how that stuff  works.  

    I just watched one of my favorites.... the first Alien.  It's funny to see the computer room in that film.  A bunch of flashing lights that don't really have a purpose.  Back in 1979 that's what we thought the future would look like.  Ridley Scott, H.R. Giger and Moebius combined their skills to create a great looking film even if it didn't always make sense.  

    Also, why would a mining ship have a self destruct option? I can understand military vessels having that but not something that digs for minerals.  It did, however, make for a cool countdown sequence.

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    I was not aware Giger (none / 0) (#94)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 07:38:48 PM EST
    had died until the Oscars.

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    I didn't know until right now (none / 0) (#104)
    by McBain on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 08:31:51 PM EST
    Have you seen the documentary Jodorowsky's Dune?  Giger did some really cool work for a crazy film that was never made.  

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    Have not but I will (5.00 / 1) (#106)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 08:37:31 PM EST
    I forgot about his sculpture/3D work (none / 0) (#109)
    by McBain on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 08:50:08 PM EST
    very cool

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    On the other hand (none / 0) (#65)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:59:16 PM EST
    when some primitive tribes were first contacted by outsiders they did not think they pooped because with the things covering their bodies there would be no way they could.

    Just sayin.

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    Didn't sound right (none / 0) (#69)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 04:15:34 PM EST
    its 4.37 light years.  1.34 parsecs.

    WIKI

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    Reminds me of a joke... (none / 0) (#60)
    by kdog on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:51:22 PM EST
    A child molester and a little girl are taking a walk in the woods.  Night falls and the little girl says "Mister, I'm scared."

    The child molester says "You're scared?  I'm the one that has to walk back alone!"

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    Pfffft (5.00 / 1) (#64)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 03:56:12 PM EST
    other than me you are probably the only person here who would tell that joke.

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    It's how I made my first new friend... (5.00 / 1) (#67)
    by kdog on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 04:00:09 PM EST
    when I moved to Tallahassee and didn't know a soul but my girlfriend.

    I'm standing on line to register for class, the guy behind me on line just blurts it out.  I was the only one that chuckled, and a great friendship was born.

    Later that day, he sorted me out with his bush doctor, and a great friendship was cemented.  

    He was a character.

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    When (none / 0) (#154)
    by ragebot on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 05:21:58 PM EST
    Hawking goes to Cal Tech he has to wear a  Tshirt that says "I lost a bet to him" with an arrow pointing to Kip Thorne.  The bet concerned what happens when crossing the event horizon which Thorn correctly described.  For extra credit which movie was Thorn the technical consultant for.

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    That's interesting (none / 0) (#155)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 05:31:29 PM EST
    i cheated with Google so I won't give it away.   It's not the one I expected

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    Eyewitness News, ala Bill O'Reilly (none / 0) (#73)
    by KeysDan on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 04:36:26 PM EST
    I saw Jeb Bush's appearance before CPAC.  You can too.
    Bush's appearance was not entirely satisfactory to all Republicans in attendance at this winger meeting.  Jeb stuck to his guns which, in a sense,  pleased second amendmenters, but his immigration policies did not thrill many.

    Laura Ingraham, the conservative talk show host, did not exactly provide the warm-up comments for Jeb, snidely suggesting that Bush's wife, Columba, would attract women voters since Jeb permits her to take loans out for large jewelry purchases and, of course, reminded  anyone who would listen of Mrs. Bush's Customs avoidance on return from her Paris shopping spree.

    Punting does seem to be in vogue these days with Republicans: when Sean Hannity asked Jeb whether Republicans should blink in the current standoff in Congress that threatens a government shutdown, Bush said "Look, I don't know, I'm not an expert in the ways of Washington."

    And speaking of O'Really, ... (5.00 / 1) (#89)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 07:17:51 PM EST
    "I don't have much respect for Bill, having worked for him during that time. He was a real jackass."
    - Neil Antin, former reporter, "First Edition"

    ... apparently his former colleagues at "First Edition" don't have very fond memories of him, either, and six of them are now questioning his veracity regarding his claims about what happened at the 1992 L.A. riots, which he related earlier this week to talk show host Hugh Hewitt.

    please join us again next time, boys and girls, as Bill O'Reilly tells us how he strongly cautioned NASA engineers against launching the space shuttle Challenger in freezing temperatures, and explains how personally urged Richard Nixon to come clean during the Watergate scandal.

    :-)

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    Already (none / 0) (#93)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 07:34:54 PM EST
    this guy is swirling the drain. I guess he's been out of politics too long.

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    Avijit Roy hacked to death (none / 0) (#79)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 05:20:11 PM EST
    leaving a book festival

    A prominent writer with a known disdain for religion was hacked to death on the streets of Dhaka, Bangladesh on Thursday. Avijit Roy was leaving a large, national book fair with his wife when the two were attacked by assailants wielding machetes. His wife, a blogger, suffered a blow to the head and is in critical condition.


    Roy and his wife (none / 0) (#143)
    by KeysDan on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 12:58:47 PM EST
    lived in Alpharetta, Ga, a northern suburb of Atlanta.   The assassins were waiting for a return to Bangladesh.  

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    Oh, no. (none / 0) (#145)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 01:01:47 PM EST
    That is only about 25 minutes from where I live.

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    The new normal... (none / 0) (#96)
    by lentinel on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 07:46:32 PM EST
    I wrote, a few weeks ago, about how I felt about television shows that normalize torture in the public mind.

    I consistently see torture being portrayed as an effective means of getting good information. Cheney must feel vindicated.

    This evening, I watched the first episode of the new season of, "House of Cards".

    This little gem sets out, in my opinion, to portray the normalization of killing civilians, including children, in the pursuit of a suspected terrorist.

    Kevin Spacey, playing the president, emotes a wee bit of concern, knowing that the collateral damage will include the innocent, children among them, then gives the go-ahead.
    And they are all incinerated in an instant as he and his team watch on a large screen tv.

    He looks slightly grave. But it is all in a days work. Tough choices. And then walks away, arm in arm with his wife talking about her political future.

    I am curious about the narrative of these epics - and how they are conditioning us to the horror story brought to majestic heights by the Bush administration, and now portrayed as the new normal.

    Is there no other way?

    To put it bluntly, it is the ethic of ISIS executed by white men in well tailored suits.

    That character committed murder (none / 0) (#97)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 07:58:46 PM EST
    to become president.  I think your imagining him being some kind of role model might be misguided.

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    I watched (none / 0) (#99)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 07:59:53 PM EST
    one episode of that show and Spacey was so evil that I couldn't watch it anymore. Maybe it might have the reverse effect of what you are thinking it might. Maybe people will see how evil doing those things is.

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    Ya think (none / 0) (#100)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 08:04:52 PM EST
    the main point of the series is how evil the Spacey character is.

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    Well (none / 0) (#102)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 08:08:49 PM EST
    I guess I'm glad that I never watched more than one episode. LOL.

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    How (none / 0) (#118)
    by lentinel on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 07:34:24 AM EST
    do you feel about Spacey's character?

    Do you feel you are watching someone evil, or do you feel that you are watching someone complex - with different sides. Some warm and fuzzy - the way he goes to his barbecue place and hangs with the black owner - fighting for a jobs bill - and then the occasional murder ---

    In short - My reaction is that they are showing this murderer as someone with whom we are to identify to an extent. We are meant to find him intriquing, and even kinda likable.
    In short, normal.

    We are not meant to feel that we are eager for him to be caught, tried and executed - as we would be made to feel if we were watching a portrayal of an ISIS person - dressed in Muslim garb - killing innocent children - rationalizing that it was their mistake being there at the time....

    That is my subjective reaction.
    What is yours?

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    Does it ever occur to you (5.00 / 1) (#140)
    by nycstray on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 12:15:06 PM EST
    that murderers are people too?

    And of course we (that are having fun watching the series) don't want him to be caught because that would prob end things . . . guess there's a lot of us messed up people out there (in your world view), eh?

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    My take of Frank Underwood(Kevin Spacey) (5.00 / 1) (#146)
    by KeysDan on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 01:41:12 PM EST
    and of his wife Claire (Robin Wright) is that they are both evil and complex.   My take of the show, House of Cards, is that it is very good entertainment, sometimes cartoonish and often realistic in the ways of Washington power.  

    The filming, itself, is rather muted in a sinister beige--making even glorious landmarks like the White House interiors look like a Restoration Hardware showroom.  The music of Jeff Beal provides ominous waiting for the next turn.

    It was instructive, too, when, as Congressman, Frank reluctantly returns for the requisite visits to his home district in South Carolina, he needs to act humble and down home.  This contrasts with his Washington persona of power, ruthlessness and intrigue.  And, the deference showed to him.

    Although a fictional composite, I,  too, see a predominate  roman a clef of Nixon.  And, the rationalizations of good and evil, Nixon good, for example, he went to China (of course, he had to be the first president to do so, since if anyone else tried, he would have called him a Commie pinko traitor), Nixon, bad, for example, the rest of the time.

    Underwood, too, is bad with those murders and all, but he does not need any help from the likes of a Kissinger.  He has Claire.  But, there is viewer conflict, at least in my case.  I do not want them to get caught.  At least, not until the series ends.

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    Antihero (none / 0) (#124)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:29:48 AM EST
    its the latest thing.  As with Walter White of Breaking Bad, Hannibal Lechter, Dexter Morgan or Scarlett O'Hara.  It's an attempt to get away from one dimensional unrealistic characters that do not reflect the real world.   I love that character and all the others I mentioned an many many others.  Even as a child I never saw myself as the hero but the antihero.
    I think you worry to much.  I think it's called entertainment and you should relax and try to allow yourself to be entertained.  
    The series is called House of Cards.   That should give you a hint that it's probably all coming down at some point.

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    It's not exactly the latest thing. (none / 0) (#137)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 11:54:48 AM EST
    The late Larry Hagman was TV's first true anti-hero as J.R. Ewing on the CBS nighttime soap Dallas. That was thirty-plus years ago.

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    I did include Scarlett (none / 0) (#138)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 12:04:57 PM EST
    ... any more than I would Rhett Butler, because while she may have had a few grating aspects to her character, she was not necessarily a bad person. She merely defied contemporary conventions of her times, thought for herself, had a sharp tongue and was eminently practical whenever facing real adversity.

    Personally, I think of an anti-hero as a character who is at heart neither good nor sympathetic, but who nonetheless commands the attention of the viewer / reader by sheer chutzpah or force of personality. They have few if any real virtues or redeeming qualities, and constantly do bad things while repeatedly getting away with it. Yet because these bad apples fascinate us, we come to identify with them.

    Due to the restrictions imposed upon Hollywood from the 1930s to the mid-'60s by influential moral scolds, such as the prudes who sat on the Hayes Commission, directors and producers were generally discouraged from making characters of ill repute the protagonist in a plotline of a film or TV show.

    Two memorable anti-heroes from that era of cinema who come immediately to mind are Fred MacMurray's Walter Neff and Barbara Stanwyck's Phyllis Dietrichson in the classic 1994 noir, Double Indemnity. And of course, the self-imposed moral codes in place at the time ensured that for the sake of the audience's proper sensibilities, the filmmakers would never allow Neff and Dietrichson to ultimately get away with it.

    One could say the same for Andy Griffith's "Lonesome" Rhoads in Elia Kazan's A Face in the Crowd, or Janet Leigh's Marion Crane and Anthony Perkins' Norman Bates in the Alfred Hitchcock film Psycho, both of which were made during the last years of the Hayes era.

    All that stands in sharp contrast to Linda Fiorentino's predatory Bridgette Gregory, who would screw people over left and right 50 years later in the 1994 neo-noir thriller The Last Seduction. Gregory always managed to stay well ahead of her own dust cloud and at the end of Seduction, she walked away virtually unscathed despite all the mayhem she had created.

    Last November, Rolling Stone magazine compiled its list of the ten most memorable antiheroes in film. Conspicuously, with the exception of Norman Bates, they're all from cinema's post-Hayes period.

    Let the conversation begin. Aloha.

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    So (none / 0) (#149)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 04:36:03 PM EST
    Personally, I think of an anti-hero as a character who is at heart neither good nor sympathetic, but who nonetheless commands the attention of the viewer / reader by sheer chutzpah or force of personality. They have few if any real virtues or redeeming qualities, and constantly do bad things while repeatedly getting away with it. Yet because these bad apples fascinate us, we come to identify with them.

    You don't consider Walter White an anti hero?

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    "Jackie Payton" from Nurse Jackie. (none / 0) (#150)
    by Anne on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 04:53:24 PM EST
    She's about as human as they get - great with patients, smarter than the doctors, but so utterly damaged from her addiction that it's made her personal life a living hell.  

    Is that an anti-hero, or just someone who, like most of the rest of the world, is flawed and often highly dysfunctional?  We root for her to get well, even as we're mad at her for screwing up once again.

    Without all her flaws, I'm not sure the show would be worth watching.

    And I have to say, most of the rest of the characters are pretty much a hoot - each also with their own troubles and pain, but just so darkly funny.

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    Good choice (none / 0) (#153)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 05:18:10 PM EST
    tv is rife with antiheros these days.   I blame the Sopranos.  And Dexter.  
    Both stars of The Americans, practically the whole cast of Shameless.  Walter and Jessie have to be on the list IMO.   There is the cast of Banshee, the cast of True Blood, Ray Donavon, Don Draper.
    And I guess we can blame the Sopranos on the Corleone family.

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    How could I forget Ray Donovan? (none / 0) (#165)
    by Anne on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 07:02:41 PM EST
    Another character you can't decide if you love or hate.

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    You (none / 0) (#197)
    by lentinel on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 10:07:25 PM EST
    are ignoring my question about how a person who commits the same kind of otrosities would be portrayed were that person to be Muslim.
    You are telling me to relax.
    It's entertainment.
    It's an anti-hero.
    The person is complex.
    Murderers are people too.
    Etc.

    What I saying is that I believe that a person who just ordered the killing of a bunch of innocent people including children would not be portrayed with these elements of humanity were that person to be a Muslim "fanatic", dressed in Muslim garb.

    They would be portrayed in one dimension: evil.

    Our boy is multi-dimensional. Complex. Someone who hate to love. etc. In other words, normal.

    The new normal.


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    Everyone responding (none / 0) (#196)
    by lentinel on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 10:04:45 PM EST
    is ignoring my question about how a person who commits the same kind of otrosities would be portrayed were that person to be Muslim.

    Everybody is telling me to relax.
    It's entertainment.
    The person is complex.
    Murderers are people too.
    Etc.

    What I saying is that I believe that a person who just ordered the killing of a bunch of innocent people including children would not be portrayed with these elements of humanity were that person to be a Muslim "fanatic", dressed in Muslim garb.

    They would be portrayed in one dimension: evil.

    Our boy is multi-dimensional. Complex. Someone who hate to love. etc. In other words, normal.

    The new normal.

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    Maybe, (none / 0) (#101)
    by lentinel on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 08:07:02 PM EST
    but you can be sure that if the same kind of killing were being depicted as being done by dark men with beards, it would be portrayed as something less than civil.

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    MOblue (none / 0) (#107)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 08:43:25 PM EST
    interested in your take on the Tom Schweich story.

    Apparrrent suicide of a candidate for governor  

    Strange and unexpected (none / 0) (#113)
    by MO Blue on Fri Feb 27, 2015 at 10:02:54 PM EST
    Don't know anything other than what is being reported.

    CLAYTON, Mo. (KSDK) - New details are coming out about the days leading up to Missouri Auditor Tom Schweich's apparent suicide Tuesday.

    In the minutes before Schweich allegedly shot himself, he made a couple of calls to reporters. One of them was to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch Editorial Page Editor Tony Messenger. Messenger says the call was requesting a reporter to come to Schweich's house. Schweich reportedly wanted to talk about allegations of a whisper campaign regarding Schweich's religion.

    Calls wanting to set an in house interview right before death seems a little strange.

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    I can't imagine someone doing what he did (none / 0) (#125)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:31:25 AM EST
    because of a whisper campaign.  Really.   Is anyone considering that it might not be suicide?

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    Harrison Ford signs on for Blade Runner sequel (none / 0) (#130)
    by McBain on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 11:22:20 AM EST
    http://tinyurl.com/mktwhka

    I thought he already did but maybe it wasn't official until now. Of course I'll see this film but not sure it's a good idea?

    It's funny how Ford has had a change of heart with several of his characters.  He hated the filming of the first Blade Runner.  He also didn't really like filming the Indiana Jones movies.  He even wanted George Lucas to kill off Han Solo in The Return of the Jedi.  Now, it seems like he's all about sequels.  Maybe he's mellowed out in his older years.... or he's thinking more about $.

    I love it (none / 0) (#131)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 11:27:09 AM EST
    it makes sense.  Especially if Ridley is involved.  But then I liked Prometheus.  Anyway makes more sense than Indiana Jones and the Golden Catheter

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    How does it make sense? (none / 0) (#132)
    by McBain on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 11:33:15 AM EST
    Ford says the script is great but I'm curious how an old Rick Deckard will be interesting? I always wanted to know what went on in the off world colonies or what happened before the first Blade Runner.

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    I have heard others (5.00 / 1) (#133)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 11:38:24 AM EST
    in the effects industry, the get scripts in advance too, say it's a great story.  It's a place most fans are going to want to see.  And speaking as someone who is old but still alive I resent the idea an old guy can't be interesting

    ;)

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    In fact (none / 0) (#134)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 11:40:06 AM EST
    I would say we old farts who grew up with the original will be a target audience.    There are quite a few of us you know.

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    I grew up with it too (none / 0) (#135)
    by McBain on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 11:44:12 AM EST
    And I love Ford.  But isn't he a replicant? Are they supposed to age?

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    I guess we will (none / 0) (#136)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 11:48:22 AM EST
    find out.

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    I hate most sequels (none / 0) (#170)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 08:03:27 PM EST
    especially to great movies. Maybe this one will work but I've got doubts.

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    Everything that is not art (none / 0) (#139)
    by Politalkix on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 12:08:23 PM EST
    "Everything that is not art, I try to transform it into art"

    link

    Must be a trend (none / 0) (#144)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 01:01:11 PM EST
    This "Banksy" thing (5.00 / 2) (#159)
    by Repack Rider on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 06:06:00 PM EST
    On a recent book promotion trip to Southern California, my host and another passenger in his vehicle kept talking about a "real Banksy" in town.  I had no idea what they were talking about.

    The driver pulled over, and he and the other passenger had an excited conversation about the object of their attention.  I'm looking to see WTF it is that they're staring and pointing at, and it comes down to a cartoon rat painted on a yellow highway sign.

    As a threshold of entertainment goes, I think I just found the bottom.

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    Natural order of things: (none / 0) (#198)
    by ZtoA on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 10:10:29 PM EST
    "As a threshold of entertainment goes, I think I just found the bottom." - and probably your great great great grandpa found moving pictures the bottom of entertainment. "Kids these days". Social media....as a ticket to insider entertainment - insider that includes everyone. You, even, might have provided a bit of entertainment for them - if you could muster a close minded sour face trying very hard to not understand political/cultural cartooning. I hope you added a few well placed grunts to add to their entertainment. :)

    (gads, I know I've been there too)

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    IFLScience (none / 0) (#166)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 07:36:20 PM EST
    Let's Call It: 30 Years Of Above Average Temperatures Means The Climate Has Changed

    If you're younger than 30, you've never experienced a month in which the average surface temperature of the Earth was below average.

    Each month, the US National Climatic Data Center calculates Earth's average surface temperature using temperature measurements that cover the Earth's surface. Then, another average is calculated for each month of the year for the twentieth century, 1901-2000. For each month, this gives one number representative of the entire century. Subtract this overall 1900s monthly average - which for February is 53.9F (12.1C) - from each individual month's temperature and you've got the anomaly: that is, the difference from the average.

    The last month that was at or below that 1900s average was February 1985. Ronald Reagan had just started his second presidential term and Foreigner had the number one single with "I want to know what love is."

    These temperature observations make it clear the new normal will be systematically rising temperatures, not the stability of the last 100 years. The traditional definition of climate is the 30-year average of weather. The fact that - once the official records are in for February 2015 - it will have been 30 years since a month was below average is an important measure that the climate has changed.

    There are some pretty sobering charts

    Forget (5.00 / 1) (#169)
    by FlJoe on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 07:51:41 PM EST
    your charts. Jim Inhofe has a snowball, actual physical evidence, all you have is some squiggly lines on a piece of paper.

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    And their proof is what?? (3.50 / 2) (#171)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 08:07:03 PM EST
    These temperature observations make it clear the new normal will be systematically rising temperatures, not the stability of the last 100 years
    .

    BTW - Is there anything wrong with growing grapes in North England???

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    Plenty is (5.00 / 3) (#177)
    by FlJoe on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 08:52:47 PM EST
    wrong with growing grapes in North England???
    If you can grow nothing in Napa valley.


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    Ha Ha Ha, Bipartisanship is back! (none / 0) (#174)
    by Politalkix on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 08:34:00 PM EST
    link

    I will sit back and chuckle as I watch people who have bashed BHO for the last six years for trying to work with Republicans, twist themselves into pretzels, now that HRC is selling it to us.

    Karmic Justice!!

    Imaginary discussions (5.00 / 1) (#182)
    by FlJoe on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:08:10 PM EST
    Recent history;
    Mitch McConnell: Our job is to insure your failure.
    Obama: I can work on that with you.
    Alternate history;
    Mitch McConnell: Our job is to insure your failure.
    Hillary: You may reclaim your balls in eight years, Mitch.

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    Fun Fun Fun (none / 0) (#176)
    by Politalkix on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 08:45:44 PM EST
    Asked if she was now "less polarizing," Clinton said she had learned from her experiences in Arkansas, at the White House and while serving in the Senate. "I don't think I have all the right ideas. I don't think my party has all the right ideas," she said.

    Now watch the HRC brigade try to change the subject.

    But I will sit back and watch the pretzels twist.

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    Those imaginary "pretzels" (5.00 / 1) (#180)
    by Yman on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:07:11 PM EST
    Every candidate running for office promises to work with the other side.  What we don't want is someone who will let the other side walk all over them, like The One.

    Speaking of which, given his history of caving to the GOP and your concerns about how "many Democratic Party politicians will be ready to once again be willfully bullied", is he going to sign your pledge of "non-intervention in ME wars under any circumstances"?

    Oh wait - that's right - you don't care if the actual CinC for the next two years signs it.  You just want potential Democratic candidates to sign it in case they become the CinC.

    Heh.

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    Very Funny (none / 0) (#186)
    by Politalkix on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:25:27 PM EST
    See Yman,  Ga6th is smarter than you.

    But you...Obaaamaaa....Obaaamaaaa.......Obaaamaaaa

    Since it is harder for you to swallow your pride compared to others because of your immaturity, it will also be more fun watching you go through the pretzel torture.

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    Grudges don't win Presidencies (none / 0) (#187)
    by christinep on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:28:56 PM EST
    All in good humor (none / 0) (#192)
    by Politalkix on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:37:58 PM EST
    The only thing that's "funny" (none / 0) (#189)
    by Yman on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:33:49 PM EST
    ... is how pathetic you look when you have to resort to these silly claims in your desperate search for imaginary "pretzels".

    CDS and a tiny imagination - not a good combination.

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    Now, now, now (none / 0) (#183)
    by christinep on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:17:00 PM EST
    When you have been around the political curve (the reality) awhile, you really will understand that "there is nothing new under the sun" and that the press pushes and the candidate answers astutely.  'Not being cynical; I'm enjoying it; I'm relishing it on behalf of Obama and Clinton.

    The preliminaries are the preliminaries.  IMO, we have accomplished so much under the leadership of President Obama (and, there is still more to come) ... and, I believe that we will continue to progress impressively under the leadership of Hillary Clinton in the next cycle.

    Cheers ... for how far we have come and for how far we will travel. (Potato chips, maybe ... not pretzels.)

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    This has nothing to do with ... (5.00 / 1) (#185)
    by Yman on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:24:45 PM EST
    ... her praise of bipartisanship, which every candidate does.

    It has everything to do with CDS and his sad, desperate search for something - anything - to use to attack HC or anyone who supports her,

    Even if he has to resort to these silly types of claims ...

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    So ... let it go (none / 0) (#188)
    by christinep on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:32:30 PM EST
    yman: One cycle is soon concluding, and another will begin.  If Hillary is to win, it will take the concentration and effort of all of us.  (Sorry, I'm being preachy; but, let's not get trapped by those who want to rehash events not so relevant now.)

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    Not a chance (5.00 / 1) (#190)
    by Yman on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:35:44 PM EST
    And preaching is not effective.

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    You are of the hook (none / 0) (#191)
    by Politalkix on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:36:21 PM EST
    Christinep-You did not bash BHO for promising or trying to work with Republicans. And Ga6th is  also off the hook now because she is saying UGH (which is a consistent position). I expect a couple of other people to also be consistent.

    But I will have a lot of fun while watching some others twist and turn...

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    Guess I'm off the imaginary hook (5.00 / 3) (#193)
    by Yman on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:41:23 PM EST
    ..., too, since I never did what you are claiming - "bashed Obama" for saying he wanted bipartisanship.

    Now, ... being a doormat for Republicans and ignoring a loooooonnnggg list of fundamental promises?  Oh, yeah.

    But I understand why you prefer to argue the imaginary rather than face reality.  It's a religious thing ...

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    You should love (none / 0) (#179)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:03:34 PM EST
    her then. She sounds just like Obama UGH is all I have to say. She needs to get back to the candidate she was at the end of 2008 and quit sounding like Obama and his silly purple language junk.

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    Political reality. (none / 0) (#184)
    by christinep on Sat Feb 28, 2015 at 09:24:10 PM EST
    Obama has always been more politically astute than many credited; and, Hillary Clinton is definitely as politically aware and astute as necessary.  Instead of "ugh," I say "bravo" ... because I'm wanting her to persevere and win. Because this won't be, nor has it ever been, a contest of the purist of politics, my sensibilities won't be easily offended.  (This isn't a canonization process, after all.)

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    lentinel (none / 0) (#201)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 01, 2015 at 08:29:48 AM EST
    no one ignored your question.  Tyrant was a very popular fx show that returns soon.  Complete with dark skinned muslim antihero.

    Try watching it.  I'm sure I can come up with others when I wake up.

    At least PK (none / 0) (#203)
    by jbindc on Sun Mar 01, 2015 at 12:32:45 PM EST
    didn't bring out the "Goldwater Girl" meme this time in his CDS....