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Variety's First Endorsement: Hillary Clinton

Variety Magazine made it's first endorsement of a presidential candidate today. Here's what it said about Trump:

Donald Trump lacks the experience, knowledge, and diplomacy to hold public office. His run for the presidency can be viewed as nothing more than a ploy to land another TV deal or launch a new cable channel so he can continue spewing his sexist, racist views. (Variety frequently writes about how sexism and racism run rampant in Hollywood, publishing such stories as a way to keep shining a light on the inequities that oddly still exist in a business that is largely liberal.)

Trump has a long history of disrespect for and objectification of women. ...As for Trump’s .... views, we’re talking about a man who wants to build a wall to block immigration and expel all Muslims and undocumented immigrants (whom he dubbed “bad hombres”) in our country.

New polls are probably meaningless since more than 22 million have already voted. But, the latest stats as of 8 minutes ago show Hillary has a 72% chance of winning and will likely get 304 electoral votes.

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    538 had the odds at 86% a week ago (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by McBain on Tue Nov 01, 2016 at 03:39:09 PM EST
    I don't trust any of these polls.  

    I think the email scandal is overrated, I don't believe the recent events in that story have made a huge impact. Same with the Trump accusers.  

    As for my vote, the CNN/Donna Brazile story bothers me much more.  That combined with the Robert Creamer videos make this election look shady.

    The word of the day is? (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Nov 01, 2016 at 05:17:49 PM EST
    No doubt (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Yman on Tue Nov 01, 2016 at 09:26:17 PM EST
    Reading Breitbart's CTso will tend to have that effect on conservatives.

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    For the arithmetic impaired (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by Peter G on Tue Nov 01, 2016 at 04:15:08 PM EST
    the winning number of electoral votes is 270. The total electoral vote garnered by the winner in the last six presidential elections was:
    1992  W.J. Clinton - 370
    1996  W.J. Clinton - 379   
    2000  G.W. Bush - 271   
    2004  G.W. Bush - 286   
    2008  Obama  - 365   
    2012  Obama  - 332

    Still have PTSD from 2000 (5.00 / 2) (#14)
    by Coral on Wed Nov 02, 2016 at 08:39:52 AM EST
    Won't rest until the votes are all in and it isn't close. No 271 EV wins, please!!!

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    Wish I liked baseball more (none / 0) (#15)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Nov 02, 2016 at 09:17:55 AM EST
    I still have PTSD (none / 0) (#19)
    by JanaM on Wed Nov 02, 2016 at 10:28:34 AM EST
    from 1980. Still SMH.

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    If you want to talk about (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Nov 01, 2016 at 07:10:21 PM EST
    speculation, garbage and rumors of criminal activity you read online, do it where you read it, not here..

    Former MA Gov. Bill Weld to Rachel Maddow: (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Nov 01, 2016 at 10:05:19 PM EST
    "For someone deciding not to [vote Libertarian], I have a lot to say about Mrs. Clinton that has not been said by others recently, and I think that needs to be said. I mean, I've known her for 40 years, I know her well, I've worked with her professionally, I know her personally, I know her to be a person of high moral character, a reliable person, and an honest person, however much Mr. Trump may rant and rave to the contrary. So, I'm happy to say that, and people can make their own choices.

    "I'm here vouching for Mrs. Clinton, and I think it's high time somebody did. And I'm doing it based on my personal experience with her, and I think she deserves to have people vouch for her outside the Democratic National Committee."

    You can see Ms. Maddow's interview with Bill Weld here on her Twitter feed.

    Yes, that's far too rare (none / 0) (#13)
    by Nemi on Wed Nov 02, 2016 at 07:58:42 AM EST
    I'm here vouching for Mrs. Clinton, and I think it's high time somebody did.

    I remember how even Melissa McEwan, who is actually a strong Hillary Clinton supporter, suddenly months ago realized that even she, herself, put in 'disqualifiers' writing about Hillary Clinton. So at first she simply had to force herself not to do it. Now it comes naturally.

    And I remember reading a piece (Aug. 30) by Jeff Jarvis and being taken by surprise, totally unexpectedly reading a piece that had no 'disqualifiers' in it what so ever! No "unlikeable", "baggage", "untrustworthy", "low enthusiasm" ... nothing of the kind:

    First, #ImWithHer. Full stop. I want to be clear that I am enthusiastic about Clinton's candidacy. I am not voting for her as the lesser of evils. I am not just voting against Donald Trump. I am not voting for her in spite of all the reasons media give not to do so. I am voting for Hillary Clinton because I respect and trust her intelligence, experience, policies, and good will. I tweeted 25 reasons (and counting) #WhyImWithHer.
    [...]
    If Clinton were running against a reasonable, human, patriotic, unbigoted, smart, articulate, decent, mature, experienced opponent, I'd still be her passionate, open supporter.
    [...]
    In media, I never hear from voters like me who are enthusiastic supporters. I never see reporters wading among eager backers at Clinton rallies to ask them how much they like her and why. I don't even hear her surrogates (what a ridiculous beltway/TV invention that is, by the way) asked about their support of Clinton, only their defense of her.
    [...]
    In this election, I am not a mass. I am not a poll number. I am not a color on a map. Neither am I a journalist. I am a member of a community I cannot see and hear in media. I am frustrated.
    [...]
    I know I'll get scorned for this, but I say Clinton's email scandal isn't a scandal. It was a mistake. Yes, I believe that she never knowingly sent classified information. Of course, she didn't. In any case, where her email sat is less important than every issue facing the American electorate.

    He might, just might, also have a point with this:

    If the candidate did a better job addressing the damned email story from the start, maybe -- maybe -- we wouldn't be bombarded with it every day.

    If the foundation and family were more aggressive in sharing news of what the foundation does then it would be less of a target for squirrel hunters and more of a character statement in her favor.

    But then again probably not ... :(

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    I wonder if Susan Sarandon has read (5.00 / 2) (#9)
    by cpinva on Wed Nov 02, 2016 at 02:58:53 AM EST
    that article. She's gone from being a Sanders supporter, to a Dr. Jill Stein(give the election to Trump), vote for a hopeless third party candidate supporter. I wasn't a Sanders supporter and didn't vote for him in the primaries. Had he won though, I could have, with a clear conscience, voted for him in the general. I don't know what Ms. Sarandon is thinking, but I do hope none of her fans are buying this schtick.

    Susan Sarandon is a wonderful actress. (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Nov 02, 2016 at 06:12:12 AM EST
    "He says, 'Me and my old school pals had some might high times 'round here.
    And what happened to you poor black folks, well, it just ain't fair.'
    He took a look around, gave a little pep talk,
    Said 'I'm with you,' then he took a little walk.
    Tell me, how can a poor man stand such times and live?"
    - Bruce Springsteen, "How Can a Poor Man Stand Such Times and Live," We Shall Overcome: The Seeger Sessions, American Land Edition (2007)

    But outside of that realm, she's far more interested in maintaining the purity of her political sparkle ponies, than in making a responsible decision that's in the best interest of those causes about which she purports to care so deeply.

    Like Jill Stein, Ms. Sarandon is a dilettante who's playing at activism. She's not risking anything personally, save perhaps for her ego. At the end of the day, were Trump to somehow be elected president, she's wealthy enough that she's hardly likely to bear the brunt of the pain or feel the impact of such a foolish decision. And given the stakes this election, anyone who supports Stein's presidential candidacy is a damned fool on a fool's errand.

    Susan Sarandon is no Elizabeth Taylor, that's for sure. In the mid-1980s, Ms. Taylor leveraged the power of her celebrity on behalf of AIDS victims (which was then a very unpopular cause), co-founded the American Foundation For AIDS Research (amFAR) with Dr. Matilde Krim, and by sheer force of character and will, raised over $100 million in research funding and compelled both President Reagan and the country to finally engage on the issue, and deal with the burgeoning national health crisis.

    That was activism with purpose, and we eventually became a better country for Ms. Taylor's determined and even heroic efforts.

    Aloha.

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    Good comment Donald, but (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by fishcamp on Wed Nov 02, 2016 at 06:35:03 AM EST
    get to bed.  It's after midnight over there and you have a lot to do today.  Actually I wish you could come to the gym with me in an hour.  Those guys have gone to reciting every poll that is in their favor, and coming up with strange words they call facts, in order to stump me.  They're getting much easier for me now that they are in full panic.

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    You really (none / 0) (#12)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Nov 02, 2016 at 06:44:48 AM EST
    should talk to them about Putin and the fact that he has infiltrated a major political party here in the US and the money wired to Trump from Russia.

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    I suggest that you look your gym buddies ... (none / 0) (#21)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Nov 02, 2016 at 01:36:37 PM EST
    ... directly in the eye, offer them one of those inscrutable but knowingly confident smiles that leaves others no reason to wonder what you're actually thinking, and simply tell them that the only poll which counts is the one that'll be announced next Tuesday night, -- you know, the one in which Mrs. Clinton is likely to kick some very serious a$$.

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    I wonder (none / 0) (#16)
    by FlJoe on Wed Nov 02, 2016 at 09:30:52 AM EST
    if she has read this  Jill Stein's Ideology Says One Thing--Her Investment Portfolio Says Another  

    She has built a minor(not to me!)fortune through investments(via mutual and index funds)
    Big energy:

    Yet Stein has invested $995,011 to $2.2 million in funds such as the Vanguard 500 fund that maintain significant stakes in Exxon and other energy companies like Chevron, Duke Energy, Conoco Phillips, and Toho Gas, a Japanese company that engages in the sale of natural gas, tar, and coke, a fuel made from coal.
    Big Finance:
    Yet Stein has invested roughly $1.2 to $2.65 million in funds like the TIAA-CREF Equity Index that have big stakes in the financial-services industry. Holdings in these funds include big banks like JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, and Deutsche Bank as major parts of their investment portfolios. Five of the funds that Stein invests in maintain large positions in Wells Fargo
    Big Pharma:
    In one of the handful of direct stock investments Stein holds, she listed between $50,001 and $100,000 in the pharmaceutical giant Merck, which paid a record fine for overbilling Medicaid. She has also invested $1,130,010 to $2,400,000 in funds that maintain significant stakes in Pfizer, Novartis, Johnson & Johnson, and Allergan.
    Big Tobacco  
    But Stein has between $500,004 to $1,100,000 invested in funds that maintain significant stakes in Phillip Morris International, the tobacco giant that manufactures Marlboro cigarettes and 17 other tobacco brands

    and finally the dreaded MIC:

    Yet she has between $50,001-$100,000 invested in a fund that has Raytheon Corp. as its fourth largest holding, a $38 million investment. Raytheon, which is the fourth largest defense contractor in the world and derives 90 percent of its revenue from military contracts, manufactures drone systems, which Stein has committed to ending, and significant missile systems.

    Aside from her campaign rhetoric you would think she was a part of the oligarchy, not it's enemy. Physician heal thyself before you and your surrogates come preaching to me.

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    Mutual Funds... (none / 0) (#17)
    by kdog on Wed Nov 02, 2016 at 10:00:43 AM EST
    are the devil's plaything...shame on Jill and all those who "invest" in destruction and grift.  Laziness in pursuit of riches is no excuse.

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    Mutual Funds are the basis of probably (none / 0) (#18)
    by cpinva on Wed Nov 02, 2016 at 10:15:52 AM EST
    99% of all non-SS retirement programs. 401(k)'s are, for the most part, deferred recognition mutual funds. the issue is what the fund is invested in. it's up to the investor to read the prospectus, and decide if you can live with what that fund is invested in.

    I mean, unless you own an operating gold mine, or were born independently wealthy, your investment options are somewhat limited.

    yes, I enjoy Ms. Sarandon's acting and I thought she was reasonably intelligent. turns out she's just another wannabe special snowflake. pity.

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    So you're telling me... (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by kdog on Wed Nov 02, 2016 at 10:38:22 AM EST
    I'm a one percenter?  Woo Hoo! ;)

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    well yeah! if all you're relying on for (none / 0) (#22)
    by cpinva on Thu Nov 03, 2016 at 09:42:33 AM EST
    retirement is SS and/or/plus direct investments in stocks/corporate bonds. most people lack both the knowledge and time to do the research required, to keep from being wiped out in the market, so they opt for mutual funds. those funds employ experts who do that research as their job.

    I'm a cpa, been doing high level corporate audits for decades. I consider myself fairly sophisticated, with respect to finances, etc. I have my money invested in mutual funds, because I recognize just how much I don't know, and those guys do.

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    Actually... (none / 0) (#23)
    by kdog on Thu Nov 03, 2016 at 12:03:36 PM EST
    I'm kinda relying on SS only in a beach hut on a foreign beach with a very low cost of living.  Or finding a 87 year sugargrandmama when I'm 67.  Or dying is always an option! lol

    Anything is better than getting in on the rackets, by my constitution.

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    Nice.. (none / 0) (#24)
    by jondee on Thu Nov 03, 2016 at 01:12:35 PM EST
    A slightly more expanded and in-depth variation on Bernard Goldberg's "Ralph Nader is a millionaire, so everything he says is wrong and he should just shut up."

    I like it.

    Has anyone checked yet to see if Stein has soiled her personal purity pony by having any illicit affairs, or dabbled at any time in any, shall we say, unorthodox rendezous?

    What about her religious beliefs or lack thereof? Any dirty commie-atheist stuff we can hang on her? Somebody get on that.

     

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    What is it they say again about glass houses? (none / 0) (#25)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Nov 03, 2016 at 07:19:46 PM EST
    Oh, yeah -- people who live in them shouldn't be throwing stones. Sorry, but Jill Stein brought that criticism upon herself. She wanted attention, and she got it.

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    Oh please, Carville Jr (none / 0) (#26)
    by jondee on Thu Nov 03, 2016 at 07:56:48 PM EST
    you and I both know that whatever they said or did, the likes of Stein, Sarandon, Bernie, and all their glittering, self-massaging purity ponies would've gotten a free pass for life on just about everything but for their commission of the one mortal sin from which there is no redemption possible. At least not around here..

    Btw, has anyone been able to get ahold of Mark Penn yet? He has to know someone who knows someone who can dig up some more discrediting dirt on Miss Goody Two-Shoes Stein.. We've got an election to win.

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    Buy hey, if you want to join those dilettantes in all their self-marginalizing, sparkle pony-humping glory, and rage rather ineffectually against the machine for no apparent purpose other than its own sake, then please be my guest.

    Just my opinion, of course, but given the virulent and ominous nature of the GOP ticket this year, I consider a vote for Stein or Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson to be nothing more than a gratuitous but otherwise empty exercise in self-gratification, cast by people who don't perceive themselves as having anything really at risk socio-economically.

    If Greens and Libertarians ever desire to be taken seriously by the public as something more than that aforementioned exercise in self-indulgence, then they need to do the serious and often tedious work of party building at the ground level, and not just pop up out of the woodwork every four years to make a play for the White House. Only then will they be able to truly relate to people on a real and relevant level in their lives, rather than merely as a potential magnet and outlet for public alienation, disaffection and protest.

    The late Hawaii Gov. John Burns spent the better part of two decades painstakingly building the local Democratic Party from its marginalized position as a liberal fringe element confronting a Republican-dominated conservative white oligarchy in the mid-1930s, into a potent multi-ethnic political coalition that swept the GOP from power in the islands back in the 1954 elections. And further, he and his Japanese-American allies built it literally on their own from scratch, with very little if any assistance from the DNC.

    That's what it takes to succeed in politics -- hard work, diligence, desire and determination, along with a pretty thick skin and no small amounts of ego and patience. Of those personal qualities, Jill Stein and the Greens possess only the ego.

    Aloha.

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    They possess only ego (none / 0) (#28)
    by jondee on Fri Nov 04, 2016 at 01:56:29 PM EST
    that's quite a sweeping indictment.

    You sound like an over-stuffed Vatican emissary rebuking rebellious Franciscans back in the Middle Ages..

    Your oft-repeated critique is more an intellectually lazy, holier-than-thou, dare I say, "elitest," ad hominem, based more on visceral resentment and cranky geriatric inertia than anything like a fair-minded weighing of the evidence..

    I live in a very Green urban neighborhood abutting a "Super Predator" neighborhood across the street from the Green candidate for Mayor. The Greens have been out canvassing and petitioning, networking with other organizations, organizing rallies and marches -- which has often entailed getting roughed up and arrested -- for years here. Their hard work and proven diligence and desire don't get a lot of media coverage -- which is no great surprise, considering the unwarranted influence wielded locally by companies like Wal-Scab, the corporate media, wingnut squawk radio, the Chamber of Commerce mentality -- but don't mistake the fact that news hasn't filtered out yet to your tropical Shangri-La for a lack of intelligence, commitment and passion on the part of the locals here.

    The dismissive, high-handed, Democrat Machine mentality you express, imo, does just as much to nurture unnecessary cynicism and apathy, particularly amongst young idealistic voters, as the nuerotic excesses of a public figure like Jill Stein's does.

    But if it makes you feel any better, 99% of the Green folks I've talked to are going to bite the bullet and vote for Hillary. They may be impatient and unrealistic, but they're not stupid.

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