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RIP Carrie Fisher and George Michael and Open Thread

Carrie Fisher has died. George Michael died on Christmas day in London. Both deaths are heart-related.

News that makes you want to take another shower: The UnPresident Elect has named his family's lawyer of 20 years to the position of "special representative for international negotiations." He is expected to focus on Israel and Palestine.

As the president’s special representative, Mr. Greenblatt is likely to focus on peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians, renegotiating trade agreements and the relationship between the United States and Cuba, among other international issues.

His experience for the position:

“He has a history of negotiating substantial, complex transactions on my behalf, as well as the expertise to bring parties together and build consensus on difficult and sensitive topics,” Mr. Trump said.

[More...]

He represents Papa Bear and his three children, Donald, Ivanka and Eric. Now he can bring us world peace. Is he just a figurehead for Jared Kushner, who the UnPresident Elect previously said was qualified to restart peace negotiations in the Middle East?

The UnPresident Elect has so many friends he's now creating new positions for them. Today he named a former Bush official to a new position called "assistant to the president for homeland security and counterterrorism" which is a position he says will have equal power to that of his hugely unpopular nominee Michael Flynn who he wants for national security adviser. What's the difference between their roles? According to the UnPresident Elect's messaging team, the homeland guy will focus on "domestic and transnational security" while Flynn will focus on "international security".

How is transnational different from international in the context of security matters?

Check out famed Catalan artist Victor Enrich's "Phallus 2020", his vision of what the White House will look like in 2020.

Enrich’s artistic reaction was taken out of Trump’s victory as ‘a direct punch in the face’.
He explains, “I tried to reflect on a certain dystopia in which Trump, without encountering any opposition, decides to transform the White House into a kitschy skyscraper made of 13 copies of the main building, obviously crowned with the golden logo of his family name.

“Washington D.C. is one of the few American cities that adheres to strict urban norms regarding construction. One of these norms is that no single building can be taller than the Capitol. Of course, Trump doesn’t respect this rule. Instead, he grabs it by the p*ssy.”

Once again, I'm taking a break from the news, since just seeing the word Trump ruins my mood for hours. I'm still following ISIS and El Chapo and related matters, but that's about it until after the new Year.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    RIP, Carrie Fisher. (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Dec 27, 2016 at 06:34:24 PM EST
    "Remember the white dress I wore all through that film ["Star Wars"]? George [Lucas] came up to me that first day of filming, took one look at the dress and said: 'You can't wear a bra under that dress.'

    "'Okay, I'll bite,' I said. 'Why?' And he said: 'Because ... there's no underwear in space.'

    "He said it with such conviction. Like he had been to space and looked around and didn't see any bras or panties anywhere.

    "He explained. 'You go into space and become weightless. Then your body expands but your bra doesn't, so you get strangled by your own underwear.'

    "I think that this would make for a fantastic obituary. I tell my younger friends that no matter how I go, I want it reported that I drowned in moonlight, strangled by my own bra."
    - Carrie Fisher, Wishful Drinking (2008, Simon & Schuster)

    My fondest aloha to one of the wittiest and most self-deprecating authors whom I've ever had the pleasure of reading. Even in passing, Ms. Fisher can still bring a smile to my face and make me spew coffee through my nose.

    ;-D

    She's been in four of my favortie films (none / 0) (#10)
    by McBain on Tue Dec 27, 2016 at 10:05:20 PM EST
    Star Wars
    The Empire Strikes Back
    Hannah and Her Sisters
    The Blues Brothers

    And some fun ones....
    Return of the Jedi
    Force Awakens
    Austin Powers
    Amazon Women on the Moon

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    Don't forget "When Harry Met Sally." (none / 0) (#15)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Dec 28, 2016 at 04:36:17 AM EST
    Carrie Fisher delivered a first-rate supporting performance in Rob Reiner's romantic comedy as Sally's cynical and wisecracking best friend Marie, who could always be counted on for good advice and a snappy one-liner.

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    I did forget about that one (none / 0) (#21)
    by McBain on Wed Dec 28, 2016 at 11:11:37 AM EST
    and a few other good ones as well.  

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    Princess Leia (none / 0) (#49)
    by Lora on Fri Dec 30, 2016 at 11:12:58 PM EST
    I was in college when "Star Wars" was released and was amazed by what fun it was for a movie that I hadn't expected to like -- not my type, so I thought at the time.  I've changed.  It's definitely my type now.

    Watching it again for the umpteenth time, I really enjoyed the interplay between Princess Leia and Han Solo, hokey now, but not such a stretch back in the day, and loved that she could kick butt and not get that pretty white gown dirty!

    Quite an accomplishment back then, to have a movie with a female lead who stayed powerful throughout without having her character turn into a b!tch. Probably the only way they could get away with it was to put her in that dress, but never mind, it all worked out.


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    UPDATE: RIP, Debbie Reynolds (1932-2016). (none / 0) (#38)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Dec 28, 2016 at 08:28:46 PM EST
    Carrie Fisher's mother, a singer-actress in her own right from Hollywood's Golden Age, suffered an apparent stroke this afternoon and died at age 84, one day after her daughter's death.

    Only yesterday, Ms. Reynolds tweeted her thanks to fans for their outpouring of condolences for her daughter:

    "Thank you to everyone who has embraced the gifts and talents of my beloved and amazing daughter. I am grateful for your thoughts and prayers that are now guiding her to her next stop. Love Carries Mother."

    And now, she will be joining her daughter on that journey.

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    Score a small victory for labor... (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 28, 2016 at 11:02:15 AM EST
    over management...the union for The Rockettes fought for and won an opt out for any performers who wish to boycott the inauguration.  Notoriously sh*tty owner Lil' Jimmy Dolan was trying to force the full-time Rockettes to make the trip to DC to feed the electoral college fluke's ego...but The American Guild of Variety Artists saved the day and earned their dues in spades.

    Sorry Donnie Boy...you'll have to settle for The Strutters of Texas State U!  

    At this rate it'll be like a The Gong Show reunion at the inauguration, with KGB-man Trump filling CIA-man Chuck Barris' shoes.

    How exactly did the AGVA "save the day"? (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Dec 28, 2016 at 02:41:51 PM EST
    In fact, kdog, it was the employer, Madison Square Garden Co., which first stated publicly on Dec. 23 that no Rockette would be compelled to perform against her will at Trump's inaugural. That statement came after the union had initially and specifically informed its members that they were contractually obligated to perform, whether they liked it or not.

    I first wrote about this five days ago in another thread. As far as I can see here, the only thing the AGVA did in this instance was to agree to a face-saving amendment in the Rockettes' contract with MSG Co., which would conform with that employer's prior public statement allowing individual dancers to opt out of the inauguration.

    Now, it really doesn't surprise me that AGVA management would seek to re-characterize retroactively their initial email message to the Rockettes, in which they had clearly and unequivocally dismissed their members' stated concerns as "invalid." There is no indication anywhere in that email that union management was taking such concerns seriously:

    "We have received an email from a Rockette expressing concern about getting 'involved in a dangerous political climate' but I must remind you that you are all employees, and as a company, Mr. Dolan obviously wants the Rockettes to be represented at our country's Presidential inauguration, as they were in 2001 & 2005. Any talk of boycotting this event is invalid, I'm afraid.

    "We have been made aware of what is going on Facebook and other social media, however, this does not change anything unless Radio City has a change of heart. The ranting of the public is just that, ranting. Everyone has a right to an opinion, but this does not change your employment status for those who are full time. [...] Everyone is entitled to her own political beliefs, but there is no room for this in the workplace." (Emphasis is mine.)

    Given that statement to its own members, it does disappoint me that the AGVA would now claim credit for what was actually an employer-instigated initiative to head off a potential and very obvious public relations disaster, were a fair number of Rockettes to summarily boycott Trump's inaugural, with or without employer permission and union support.

    The true heroes here, kdog, are those Rockettes who stood resolutely upon their principles and put their own jobs on the line. Far from standing up for its own members in this instance, AGVA management had failed to have their backs. And finally, kudos to the MSG Co. for doing the right thing by its employees, and leading the union out of the weeds.

    Aloha.

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    Yes, good for the (none / 0) (#23)
    by KeysDan on Wed Dec 28, 2016 at 12:05:49 PM EST
    union.  If, the Rockettes balk, maybe Trump can prevail upon Fiorina to bring some of those fetuses she saw kicking. A performance sure to thrill many a Trump supporter and Planned Parenthood enemy.

    In any event, it would not be surprising if Trump, secretly, hopes that no celebrity shows up throwing shade on his limelight.

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    Oh man that's gold! (none / 0) (#24)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 28, 2016 at 01:04:40 PM EST
    Somebody should totally do a mock inauguration simulcast on the internet featuring the Fantasy Infanticide Dancing Fetuses doing the Can-Can.

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    As we all know, Ivanka sat in on the (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by vml68 on Wed Dec 28, 2016 at 01:11:56 PM EST
    very first meeting that the President-elect held with a world leader, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.

    She also joined the call her father received from Argentine President Mauricio Macri.

    Now, we have another world leader, Netanyahu, who includes her in a twitter message to Tr*mp.

    This is a freakin' family Presidency. But, nevermind all that, let's instead be outraged that poor Ivanka was spoken to loudly in front of her children.

    Ya know V... (5.00 / 2) (#26)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 28, 2016 at 01:24:50 PM EST
    might not be so bad...at the very least we know Donald has something resembling adult supervision when speaking or corresponding with world leaders.

    Would you rather he meet/speak/tweet alone? F&ck no!  

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    Yes, some truth there, (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by KeysDan on Wed Dec 28, 2016 at 02:15:08 PM EST
    based on his latest tweets, without Ivanka, by the time of his inauguration, he will be wandering around the stage in his pajamas.

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    And based on my observations... (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 28, 2016 at 02:29:27 PM EST
    if not for being born on third base, he would be wandering around the platforms of Penn Station in his pajamas talking to himself.

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    I don't know, Mr K. I don't have much faith in (none / 0) (#30)
    by vml68 on Wed Dec 28, 2016 at 02:33:22 PM EST
    any of them.
    I am afraid that any more time spent reading and hearing about his latest tweets/comments/drama and I am going to be the one in need of adult supervision :-)!

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    Wouldn't be the first time either (none / 0) (#36)
    by TrevorBolder on Wed Dec 28, 2016 at 05:18:36 PM EST
    All I can say (none / 0) (#1)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Dec 27, 2016 at 04:50:40 PM EST
    is what GOP pundit Ana Navarro said and that's you can't make this cr*p up when it comes to Trump. Bizarre and ridiculous is what his administration is already.

    I console myself (none / 0) (#3)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 27, 2016 at 05:20:58 PM EST
    with the thought that there is a reasonably good chance that I will be successful in never hearing Gen. Cheeto's voice again.

    I suppose by accident, and before I can change the channel, I might have to suffer a nano-second before getting rid of that visage from my screen.  But I am vigilant.

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    Me too MKS, but (none / 0) (#5)
    by fishcamp on Tue Dec 27, 2016 at 06:48:45 PM EST
    When the news is on there he is, on every channel.  So, thankfully I read a lot.  I've switched  from actual books to reading on my iPad.  I know everybody likes the feel of a good book in their hands, but with the iPad I don't have to turn a light on and look for my reading glasses.  Also my old cat likes to sit on my lap, but bites me when I fumble with a book.

    In between chapters I try and read a bit from my Constitutional handbook, but have to keep reading the same sentences over and over.  I now understand why I don't remember ever reading it way back in school.  We will undoubtedly need to know the Constitution and Amendments with the orange man in charge.

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    I may go back to reading novels (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 27, 2016 at 06:58:47 PM EST
    A disappearing medium, I think.  But more time now that I do not watch t.v.  

    Even the so called liberal channels do not really impart real information.

    Online sources of info just as good as t.v.--and depending on the source, can be much better.

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    And, I am on the Gavin Newsom (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by MKS on Tue Dec 27, 2016 at 07:10:34 PM EST
    bandwagon.

    Donald (of Hawaii) will tell you about his lowest moment, but he has rea