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Valentine's Day Open Thread

From our heart to yours....Happy Valentine's Day.

I'm about to watch Vinyl, the new HBO series produced by Martin Scorcese and Mick Jagger.

One third through unpacking...all TVs and computers are working.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Jeralyn (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Feb 14, 2016 at 08:40:12 PM EST
    I hope you get unpacked soon and things get easier for you!

    Happy Susan B. Anthony's Birthday Eve! (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by Towanda on Sun Feb 14, 2016 at 09:19:25 PM EST
    . . . as I look forward, as I do annually, to my box of chocolates like that -- tomorrow, when it's half-price.  That's one of the happy compromises of life, when a feminist weds a "cheap Scot," as he cheerfully labels himself.  

    So, have a chocolate, too, to celebrate with women across the country, as women have been doing for more than a century on the birthday of the woman who wrote part of our Constitution.

    Oh, and happy belated federal recognition of the birthday of Abe -- who wrote part of our Constitution, too -- and George, who wrote and said rather little, in comparison, but was a model in preferred to be adjudged by his actions.  Would that more of our leaders would learn from all of the above. . . .    

    ... the writers and cast say "not so fast," this time skewering conservative white outrage over Beyoncé's new video and Super Bowl appearance with the horror film trailer parody, "The Day Beyoncé Turned Black."

    That was fantastic (none / 0) (#41)
    by CST on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 03:16:28 PM EST
    Also Relevant

    "Newton being upset that he lost a football game has received far more attention than Manning's involvement in being named in a lawsuit against the University of Tennessee alleging the university has fostered a hostile work environment for women."

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    I Would Argue... (none / 0) (#102)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 10:03:03 AM EST
    ... that people who think SNL is getting stale aren't watching it.  This year in particular, they have been knocking it out of the park every show.  The snow episode with Ronda Rousey was one of the best ever.

    They have basically had a good solid comedy show for at least 4 years, but this year in particular has been one of the best.

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    The show has endured numerous peaks and valleys over the course of its 40-plus years, in terms of product and creative quality. Even during its first five years with the now-legendary "Not Ready for Prime-Time Players," SNL would occasionally fall flat.

    And that's perfectly understandable, given the obvious pressures of writing for a 90-min. sketch comedy show which airs weekly, particularly when that show has long staked its reputation on taking risks and not being afraid to shock and offend people, or even gross them out every now and then.

    (Sen. Al Franken of Minnesota, who was one of SNL's early writers during its "Not Ready for Prime-Time" era, is currently penning a memoir which will include his days in comedy and his long association with the show, which ought to be an interesting read for SNL's longtime fans.)

    After its original cast departed in 1980 (along with producer Lorne Michaels, temporarily), it took a season or two for SNL to find its legs again. But it recovered eventually as Michaels returned, and each subsequent cast since has left their own indelible marks on the show, as have any number of SNL's guest hosts.

    In my opinion, Richard Pryor's stint as host during SNL's premiere season in 1975 has to rank as one of the show's funniest episodes ever (and also provided SNL its first real brush with controversy), as does Betty White's fan-driven gig in 2010.

    Aloha.

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    Sad Valentines Day (5.00 / 13) (#23)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 11:53:20 AM EST
    Need to share this with the dog lovers.

    sweet Daisy has moved on

    I just returned from the vet.  She has had a terrible autoimmune problem that has messed up her feet to the point she could no longer walk.   After a long discussion we decided that was the most humane thing to do.
    I'm very sad about it but it was very peaceful and humane.   And she is no longer in pain.  Love your companions   While you have them

    Please don't fill up the thread with condolences.  High 5s will do.  I know who the dog lovers are and I know you are with me.  Just needed to share.

    RIP Daisy.  

    She looked friendly (5.00 / 3) (#38)
    by Mr Natural on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 03:04:33 PM EST
    - they do leave pawprints in our hearts

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    I'm very sorry for your loss. (5.00 / 1) (#90)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 12:20:52 AM EST
    It's a hard decision to make when it's time to let our canine and feline friends go, and yours was a true act of love. I'll raise a glass tonight in honor of a faithful companion. Aloha.

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    Better Call Saul alert!!! (5.00 / 1) (#70)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 07:54:32 PM EST
    Season 2 starts tonight!

    Did yu see it yet?? (none / 0) (#107)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 11:37:24 AM EST
    SO good

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    I was about to reply to my own comment (none / 0) (#153)
    by ruffian on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 04:26:59 PM EST
    I freakin' LOVE this show!

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    PLAYUH (none / 0) (#155)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 04:33:21 PM EST
    Viva Zafiro Anejo

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    Really interesting Criminal Justice Survey (5.00 / 1) (#87)
    by NJDem on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 09:27:25 PM EST
    with Clinton and Sanders LINK

    I admit I'm biased, but side-by-side, I find her answers and experience behind them way more comprehensive and compelling...  

    Kentucky lawmaker's bill forces men (5.00 / 1) (#98)
    by Mr Natural on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 07:32:12 AM EST
    to get note from wives before purchasing Viagra

    Tired of what she considers the government inserting itself into women's private lives, a Kentucky lawmaker has decided to return the favor.

    Rep. Mary Lou Marzian, a Louisville Democrat, has introduced a bill that would require that someone seeking Viagra, Cialis, Levitra or Avanafil "make a sworn statement with his hand on a Bible that he will only use a prescription for a drug for erectile dysfunction when having sexual relations with his current spouse."

    "This is about family values," said Marzian.



    My goodness! (5.00 / 2) (#106)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 11:31:35 AM EST
    Tad Devine on Andrea Mitchell moments ago-

    (Paraphrase)

    "When Bernie decided to run within the Democratic Party he chose not to follow someone like Ralph Nader who ELECTED A REPUBLICAN!!!!

    My GOODNESS.   This might set well with some Bernie Bros (like some frequent commenters here) who have been denying this reality for, what, decades?

    Samantha Bee (5.00 / 1) (#108)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 11:48:12 AM EST
    TBS has been hyping Full Frontal w/ Samantha Bee as the new Daily Show, even though the Daily Show is still on the air.  She used to work for the Daily Show.

    Not bad.  This clip, at the 1:00 mark is totally insane and something I had not seen anywhere else.  It's a reporter asking Cruz's wife a question about his likability.

    LINK

    And then there the republican debate at the 2:20 mark, that had me rolling.  Rubio actually said that HRC wants to make all abortions legal, even on the due date.  But they also show the mix-up and why Trump & Carson were not on the stage.

    Saw the premiere of her show last week (none / 0) (#109)
    by ruffian on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 12:02:57 PM EST
    and thought it was really good. Looking forward to seeing my tape of last night's episode. Some of the old Daily Show writers went with her. Maybe the weekly format will keep it consistently sharper too.

    I stopped recording the Daily Show - Trevor Noah is funny sometimes, but the show has lost a lot of its bite and is no longer on my 'must see' list.

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    I thought (5.00 / 4) (#129)
    by CST on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 02:47:00 PM EST
    you guys would appreciate this

    Good media advice, (none / 0) (#149)
    by KeysDan on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 04:07:23 PM EST
    Mrs. Clinton needs the youthful pizazz of Rubio--Ich bin ein Hindenburg.

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    As FrankenDonald lumbers toward (5.00 / 2) (#181)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 07:50:31 AM EST
    Another rout in SC I am hearing what I think is the most dangerous and misguided conclusion that IMO could possibly be taken from that looming outcome.

    "If Donald is really going to win we can nominate Bernie.  It doesn't matter who we nominate we will win easily"

    no no no no NO

    For the love of god no.   WRONG.   God help us if this takes hold.

    New CNN/ORC poll NV (none / 0) (#182)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:01:05 AM EST
    Now sure how much they can be believed but Hillary is up by 1 Donald is up by 27.

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    They were off (none / 0) (#184)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:12:50 AM EST
    by 8 points in Nevada.

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    Not (none / 0) (#185)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:13:08 AM EST
    Nevada, Iowa.

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    I continue to think (none / 0) (#187)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:20:48 AM EST
    Hillary will make it in NV.   For no particular actual reason I can put my finger on.

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    I hope you (none / 0) (#195)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:32:48 AM EST
    are right. She does have two big positives going in but mainly she has Reid's people.

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    The Internals (none / 0) (#200)
    by FlJoe on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:36:06 AM EST
    of this poll shows Hillary with double digit leads in handling most of the issues(+40 on FP), with the exception of the economy where she only leads by one.

    She also has a 16 point lead on the electability question.

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    No doubt (none / 0) (#183)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:12:04 AM EST
    that Bernie would lose to Trump.

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    IMO (none / 0) (#186)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:18:50 AM EST
    Hillary COULD lose to Donald.

    Bernie would be third after Bloomberg.

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#203)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:38:56 AM EST
    I know. Hillary could have a fight on her hands. With Bernie it's surrender at the OK Corral.

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    Well that's just like... (none / 0) (#189)
    by kdog on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:27:11 AM EST
    your opinion man;)

    I disagree, if Trump gets the nomination half the Republicans stay home, and Bernie or Hillary coast to victory.

    I also think the flipside is true...if Trump doesn't get the nomination the other half of the Republicans stay home, and Bernie or Hillary coast to victory.

    Which is why this is time for the our half of the country to shoot for the moon...opportunities like this are rare.  This is no time to settle for a Wall Street Democrat.  

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    Disagree (5.00 / 1) (#192)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:31:38 AM EST
    Trump is able to move to the center. Bernie is not. Trump is already moving to the center.

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    Trump can dance all he wants... (5.00 / 1) (#196)
    by kdog on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:34:19 AM EST
    65% of the country can't stand the mother*cker, no cha-cha will change that fact, minds are made up on Trump.  35% love, 65% hate.

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    So what? (none / 0) (#202)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:37:42 AM EST
    Do you think they'll like Bernie after everything he has said gets more examination? One or two ads from the GOP will be enough to completely collapse his campaign and turn his numbers upside down. I've seen this movie before.

    There is a reason why Karl Rove is attempting to push Bernie as the nominee.

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    You know the most f'ed up part of this (5.00 / 1) (#206)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:42:54 AM EST
    When Hillary wins as she probably will and the polls (in a race against a likely Donald) tighten to the terrifying degree I am sure they will,   guess what we are going to have to listen to.

    If only we had nominated Bernie.........

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    I know (none / 0) (#209)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:49:08 AM EST
    However it seems people cannot look past their nose on this issue sometimes. Vox had an article interviewing political scientists that stated that Bernie would be as much as a 10 point drag on the down ticket races. I can totally see that happening.

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    Why do you think (none / 0) (#211)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:52:03 AM EST
    Down ticket people are lining behind Hillary.   He would kill us.   They all know it.   A matter of little import to most Bernie supporters is suspect.

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    I'm sure (none / 0) (#212)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:54:31 AM EST
    they have some internal polling to back all this up too. I mean it's not rocket science to understand what would happen.

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    If Bernie wins (none / 0) (#193)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:31:58 AM EST
    Bloomberg get into the race.   He has said as much.   And then it's over.   Say hello to president Trump.

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    F&ck Bloomberg... (none / 0) (#198)
    by kdog on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:35:34 AM EST
    Bloomberg takes establishment Republicans, Trump takes Tea Party Republicans, Bernie gets the rest.  Advantage Bernie.

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    The scary part is (none / 0) (#201)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:37:29 AM EST
    You believe this.   The really scary part is you are not alone.

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    Bernie's (none / 0) (#204)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:40:09 AM EST
    base of support is 24% of the electorate. I hardly think that's enough in a three way to win. More than likely in a three way either Bloomberg or Trump win the presidency.

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    The (none / 0) (#190)
    by FlJoe on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:27:12 AM EST
    Bernie-Bots will cling to their revolution even if it takes this country over a cliff.

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    Nah (none / 0) (#191)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:29:49 AM EST
    "Coast" over the cliff.

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    Or Scaredy Cats... (none / 0) (#194)
    by kdog on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:32:18 AM EST
    will cling to the status quo as the status quo takes our country over a cliff.

    We've been barreling towards the cliff since 1980 man...easing off the accelerator won't work much longer, I think we need to hit the emergency brake.

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    It's not (5.00 / 1) (#197)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:35:25 AM EST
    being scared so much as knowing the American voter. they see Bernie as someone who is going to take their "stuff". It's kind of hard to sell the fact that people are still struggling and then say I'm going to take more like Bernie is.

    Bernie would come in 3rd behind Bloomberg or Trump. A revolution, a noun and verb isn't very appealing to the majority of Americans I dare say.

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    Hate to break it to ya... (none / 0) (#208)
    by kdog on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:47:56 AM EST
    our "stuff" already got taken GA...the 1% took it with the help of Reagan/GHWB/Clinton/GWB/Obama and all them sessions of Congress.

    Bernie is talking about taking it back.  

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    Actually (none / 0) (#210)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:51:32 AM EST
    he's proposing taking more of your stuff. He's not going to be giving anything back. Something like 71% of the electorate would "lose" under Bernie. Obviously you're not one of them. You can't complain about the 1% taking stuff and then you're going to take more like Bernie is. It just doesn't make sense.

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    Well (none / 0) (#199)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:35:44 AM EST
    Bernie would finally get vetted.  That's fer sure.

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    And (none / 0) (#205)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:41:28 AM EST
    that would be pretty ugly.

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    Btw (none / 0) (#207)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:46:10 AM EST
    Did you see Bernies boy Tad Devine say yesterday that Bernie woukd not cause a loss to a republican like Nader did?

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    kdog...I love you but (5.00 / 2) (#214)
    by ruffian on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 09:24:43 AM EST
    no way half the GOP electorate is staying home rather than vote for Trump to beat either Hillary of Bernie. They will be all over him like white on republicans.

    Mr. Natural, (5.00 / 1) (#222)
    by NYShooter on Thu Feb 18, 2016 at 12:22:00 PM EST
    My deepest apologies to you. You are, of course, correct that I should have read your response more thoroughly.

    In my red-faced excuse:

    I've asked the same question many times and gotten a lot of guesses, and, gobbly-gook as answers. I, also, recently read a scientific article about memory, and, how it plays tricks on us. I became so conditioned to getting nonsensical answers to my question that I, reflexively & prematurely, placed yours in that, "guess," category.

    Again, sorry.    

    Jeralyn ... (none / 0) (#2)
    by Robot Porter on Sun Feb 14, 2016 at 08:44:47 PM EST
    it seems whenever I come back here you're moving again.

    I hope you like the new place. And that the unpacking isn't too tiring or stressful.

    Happy Valentine's Day!

    This is the same move as last September (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Feb 14, 2016 at 09:26:56 PM EST
    The movers set the place on fire when moving me in...I went back to my old place for a month, then returned to the new place, minus my stuff while waiting for the restoration to be complete. It was supposed to take 3 weeks and it took 5 months. (Mostly due to the insurance companies involved, representing different interests, none of which were mine.)

    The place had to be empty when they pulled out and put in new hardwood floors throughout due to fire damage. So even the small amount of stuff I had here had to be moved out again last Monday, and I went to a hotel. The floors were finished Friday,  and the movers brought all my stuff Saturday.

    So it wasn't a "move" for me, just my stuff -- and it will take days to get it all put away. But at least I shouldn't have to move for another year and a half.

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    I hope all is well now, and for a while (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Towanda on Sun Feb 14, 2016 at 11:00:53 PM EST
    as your saga has been awful.  Three weeks turning into twenty weeks, moving yourself and your stuff so many times, all while coping with insurance companies looking to make it worse . . . well, it's good that you're a lawyer who could look out for your interests.  I hope, too, that there is some comfort in having your belongings back with you -- and that the new floors are beautiful.

     

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    I thought the first episode of Vinyl was so so (none / 0) (#6)
    by McBain on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 01:31:11 AM EST
    Good idea, good cast, great director but something was missing.    

    Spontaneity, perhaps. (none / 0) (#8)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 02:22:51 AM EST
    Hard to judge by only the first episode, but the storyline seems oddly familiar and even predictable, yet another emotional cripple seeks personal fulfillment in a hedonistic industry by looking in places where there's none to be founds, e.g., cocaine. I do hope it gets better, because I'm not really all that inspired to watch much more if it doesn't.

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    Per Jeralyn's comments ... (none / 0) (#92)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 12:43:10 AM EST
    ... in another thread, she also didn't care for "Vinyl."

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    Maybe two hours was a bit much for the first (none / 0) (#105)
    by McBain on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 11:26:23 AM EST
    episode. Or perhaps, the Andrew Dice Clay character was inappropriate.  He reminded me of Alfred Molina in Boogie Nights. One thing for sure, retro music, cocaine and mob related violence has been done to death.  

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    Tough crowd... (none / 0) (#132)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 02:58:56 PM EST
    I really liked the debut...though obviously the subject matter is right in my wheelhouse.  The 70's NYC visuals alone were worth tuning in for, I miss that place!

    I was sad to see Dice's Buck Rogers character leave us so soon.  Though it appears the investigation of his death will remain through the season.

    I agree with Jeralyn that the Jamie Vine character is the most interesting so far...and I'm excited to see how the Lester Grimes character develops too, and how he becomes involved with the label again after he already got screwed once by the business.  

    The New York Dolls caused building collapse scene was pretty dope.

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    I'm hopeful that "Vinyl" will ... (none / 0) (#160)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 05:06:08 PM EST
    ... find its legs and become a great show, but as I said above, I came away with the feeling that I've seen variations of this story told before, such as in "Boogie Nights."

    It's going to be really hard for any TV show about the late '70s-early '80s era to top that pivotal scene in "Boogie Nights" with Alfred Molina's freebasing character for sheer intensity. I remember being totally mesmerized by Mark Wahlberg's and John C. Reilly's growing looks of dread as they sense that a routine drug deal is about to go terribly, horribly awry, a feeling no doubt enhanced by Molina's boy toy casually lighting and tossing firecrackers in the house.

    That was truly great filmmaking.

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    Vinyl was more "Wonderland" than (none / 0) (#177)
    by McBain on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 09:04:31 PM EST
    "Boogie Nights".  Wonderland had it's moments, including a good performance from Val Kilmer as John Holmes, but it wasn't fun.  That great Alfred Molina character was based on real person.  Wonderland's version of that story was probably more accurate but hard to watch.

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    "Wonderland" was great. (none / 0) (#178)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 11:24:51 PM EST
    It had fantastic performances all around. But I'll likely never see it again, because I literally felt the need to take a shower afterward. It's one of the saddest and creepiest films I've ever seen about a story that was ugly to begin with, and I've no desire to relive the experience. And between the two, "Boogie Nights" is the superior film.

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    Monday Morning Query (none / 0) (#11)
    by CoralGables on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 06:47:39 AM EST
    "The President can nominate whoever he wants, but the Senate is not going to act, and that's pretty clear. So, we can keep debating it but we're not moving forward on it, period." Presidential Candidate Marco Rubio (Party of No)

    I've always wondered, is it be necessary to put punctuation at the end of a sentence where the speaker says "period". Isn't the use of the punctuation period redundant?

    is it be? (none / 0) (#12)
    by CoralGables on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 06:48:33 AM EST
    well that not very well stated, period!

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    Have the perfect response to this in the (none / 0) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 07:35:19 AM EST
    Scalia thread

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    ... are two different things when used in this context. Little Marco Rubio's verbalization of said punctuation mark was meant to convey his obvious personal displeasure with any further attempts at discussion of the topic, which was delivered with all the fervent heft of a 10-year-old brat refusing his mother's directive to clean up his bedroom.

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    Rubio was (none / 0) (#45)
    by KeysDan on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 03:53:27 PM EST
    just trying to get his Hindenburg back up into the air. Rubio threw lots of  red meat in the S.C. debate: At the beginning, in  his tribute to Scalia, he called Scalia's dissent in Obergefell,"brilliant."  It did not get much audience reaction, since that involved some information. So, he let it all out in his final words: " We're going to be a county that says marriage is between one man and one woman."  They seemed to get that...a more clarifying repeat.

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    Can anyone help out here? (none / 0) (#18)
    by NYShooter on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 09:29:00 AM EST
    On some websites they have a list of topics you can click on to get the whole story. Every once in a while, at the end of a topic, there's the word, "(resilc)."

    Does anyone know what that means? I've googled it and still don't understand it.


    Example, please (none / 0) (#32)
    by Mr Natural on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 02:34:02 PM EST
    From Naked Capitalism (none / 0) (#131)
    by NYShooter on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 02:57:45 PM EST
    1. "AMERICA AT BAY" - EVADING DESTINY Sic Semper Tyrannis (resilc)

    2. "How small is the world, really?" Medium (resilc)


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    lol. My goodness. A new playpen. (none / 0) (#147)
    by Mr Natural on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 03:52:21 PM EST
    I'm guessing it's a credit to whoever contributed a link.  On n.c. a search for resilc brings to the surface many examples of resilc in parenthesises.  Each has been appended to a linked story.  Other apparent monikers are similarly treated.

    Also, there's this:

    Antidote du jour. I have to confess, in the entire history of our antidotes, I can't recall ever having a caterpillar. We have now remedied that oversight, thanks to reader resilc. From the Guardian: "Alypia octomaculata on a grape vine found on an old stone wall along a country road in Medfield, Massachusetts."


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    Jeez, thanks for trying. (none / 0) (#163)
    by NYShooter on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 05:14:55 PM EST
    I pretty much deduced what you suggested, "....a credit to whoever contributed a link." Its just that I don't recall ever having heard, or read, that connection anywhere else. They use that term all the time, and, it sort of tees me off that none of their many readers & commenters have ever mentioned that dilemma.

    Oh well.........

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    Kalli Jo Gray is good for about 3 or 4.... (none / 0) (#19)
    by magster on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 09:43:43 AM EST
    ... withering tweets per day. I'd hate to be on her bad side.

    What do the words (none / 0) (#24)
    by Repack Rider on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 12:07:47 PM EST
    ..."National Basketball Association All-Star Game" all have in common?

    No "D" in any of them.

    That was rather obvious by halftime, ... (none / 0) (#26)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 12:22:36 PM EST
    ... when the score was 92-90.

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    Well, to be fair to Dadler, ... (none / 0) (#25)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 12:19:04 PM EST
    ... responsibility for that error should rest solely with The Guardian for having published this nonsense, and not with him.

    That purported belittling of President Obama by former President Bill Clinton was not out of context at all. Rather, it was a deliberately truncated misquoting of Clinton's remarks in full, done for the obvious purpose of misleading an audience and manufacturing a controversy where none otherwise exists.

    The Guardian, former home of Glenn Greenwald, is presumably a reputable source of news, hence Dadler's propensity to believe that the stories appearing under its masthead have been vetted and are therefore truthful. But this sort of scandalmongering article is clearly more worthy of one of Rupert Murdoch's Fleet Street gossip rags, than it is of a Pulitzer Prize-winning publication.

    Shame on The Guardian for having stooped to that low level. And if Dadler reads these comments to his post, I'm sure that he'll likely be less trusting of that source in the future.

    Aloha.

    To be fair requires research (none / 0) (#27)
    by Towanda on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 12:44:27 PM EST
    after requisite skepticism about anything in media.

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    Most people don't have time for that. (5.00 / 1) (#75)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 08:18:28 PM EST
    Nor, for the matter, should they have to do their own fact-checking to verify the credibility of stories from sources like The Guardian. After all, the ostensible point of reputable journalism is to inform the public, not to mislead readers by placing one's thumbs on the scales and / or playing everyone for chumps. A healthy skepticism is always useful, but one should keep in mind the fine line between that and cynicism.

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    Nonsense. It took a few seconds (5.00 / 2) (#88)
    by Towanda on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 10:16:50 PM EST
    for me to go to my good friend the Google, click on the news, type in the keyword, and click on the stories that included the context.

    "Research" was my nice word for click-and-read.

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    I agree, Towanda (5.00 / 2) (#95)
    by Mr Natural on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 04:43:04 AM EST
    I can read ten stories and follow ups in the time it takes to write one lecture telling "us" that there was something heinous about the first.

    My takeaway from that bit of exploration was Toni Morrison's explanation of her famous assertion about Bill Clinton.

    Google: Don't leave home without it!

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    Like when, (5.00 / 1) (#96)
    by Nemi on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 06:41:45 AM EST
    as mentioned in an earlier thread, The 'Graun' - whose commenters loathe Hillary Clinton! To a degree that's just not ... healthy! - alleged that Albright: 'special place in hell' for women who don't support Clinton.

    Not what she said, and easy to find out by googling - or just listen to the video - but I'm sure the editors expected at least some of their readers to overlook where the citation marks stopped and that they didn't include 'who don't support Clinton'.

    Where the google-searching as a means to factcheck and counter smears gets really difficult is when it's stated that Hillary Clinton is shrill, entitled, untrustworthy etc., etc., etc. Not only difficult but practically impossible.

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    The Google is not your friend, Towanda. (none / 0) (#91)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 12:33:51 AM EST
    In fact, The Google is continuing to compile a thick dossier on you, even as we speak. And one day, when President Scott Walker is in power, boy, you will be sorry that you used The Google to disseminate all that wretched stuff about him in these threads while he was your exalted governor, particularly all those times you (gasp!) quoted him verbatim.

    ;-)

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    dadlers comment (none / 0) (#93)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 02:08:23 AM EST
    and those republishing false versions of the purported statements have been deleted. Race-baiting is not permitted here.

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    UPDATE: MSNBC's Chris Hayes ... (none / 0) (#171)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 05:54:55 PM EST
    ... acknowledged last night that his show clearly erred on Friday when it played the selectively edited version of Bill Clinton's remarks about President Obama:

    "A number of people pointed out -- quite a few actually, and rightly -- that Clinton's full remarks changed the context of that point, and that he actually went on to defend President Obama. We did not characterize Clinton as trashing the president or slamming him, as some others did. We said he went off-message, which is arguably true. But here's the important thing. In cutting off that clip, in the editing, we didn't allow you the chance to make that judgment for yourselves in the full light of context. We shouldn't have done that."

    We'll see if The Guardian decides to man up and do the same.


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    Nevada (none / 0) (#30)
    by TrevorBolder on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 02:13:27 PM EST
    Should be interesting.  But no one can be sure of anything out there.

    Politico
    With five days to go until the Nevada caucuses -- once viewed as Hillary Clinton's Western firewall -- Sen. Harry Reid and his allies are incensed at the wounded Democratic front-runner.
    The reason: the Clinton campaign's attempt to downgrade expectations there by whitewashing the diverse state.

    http://tinyurl.com/j4eaaj9

    Well this is an argument for which we do have (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 02:28:29 PM EST
    data. In 2008, according to the entrance polls from the Nevada Caucus cited by CNN, Latinos made up 14% of caucus participants (they were 25% of total population). They don't give a similar breakdown for African Americans but have a more vague statement "Obama led overwhelmingly among the 16 percent of African-Americans who came out to caucus". Assuming that means 16% of caucus goers were African Americans, we get 30% africanamericanandlatino, as Bern would say, which leaves 70% presumably mainly caucasion. Will 16% of caucus goers be AA in a year with no AA candidate? I guess that is the question - and the Clinton camp seems to doubt it.

    So they are quibling about an 80-20 split vs a 70-30...personally I would put my money on Clinton's data over Harry Reid's.

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    Exactly. Quote was "80% white voters" (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by Towanda on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 06:28:52 PM EST
    not "80% whites" in Nevada.  And specific to caucuses, not to all elections (as caucus participation differs, but too many journalists do not understand that . . . or just have CDS).  

    That said, anyone working for HRC has to be ready to anticipate CDS on everything that they say . . . and then move on rather than allow the CDS to achieve its aim of distracting the campaign.

    HRC herself did so, and well, in an interview with the top pollster/tv-and-radio jock/journalist/etc. in Nevada.  (Apparently the relatively low population means that he has little competition for all of those jobs so just does them all.)

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    Gosh, the writing at Politico has ... (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by Robot Porter on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 03:41:43 PM EST
    become so frantic and breathless.

    And all those unnamed sources.

    The only thing in that article backing up this claim of the Clinton campaign was pushing a "white Nevada" meme is a part of one sentence.  And it's quoted with no idea of the context or specific source.

    Bad journalism.  And, most likely, completely inaccurate as well.

    Try again, Politico.

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    'become'? Tiger Beat on the Potomac h/t C. Pierce (none / 0) (#52)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 06:40:17 PM EST
    was ever thus.

    Have they ever named a source?

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    I guess I hadn't noticed (none / 0) (#101)
    by Robot Porter on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 09:59:19 AM EST
    ... lately.

    I read most of my news through aggregators. So if the headline doesn't grab me I don't read it.

    Politico is in there.  But I probably read too few of their stories to see they're still this bad.

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    Politico seems to be a must-read source ... (none / 0) (#111)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 12:37:22 PM EST
    ... for a lot of people inside the Beltway. Personally, I find it much too reliant upon rumors and gossip from anonymous sources to be of all that much value to me.

    DC insiders like to use Politico as a conduit for sniping at one another anonymously, so in that regard, I have to disagree with Charles Pierce's characterization of it as "Tiger Beat on the Potomac." Rather, its style appears to have much more in common with the old Hollywood Confidential.

    Aloha.

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    Interesting ... (none / 0) (#172)
    by Robot Porter on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 06:04:34 PM EST
    I do recall being one of the first people to refer to fawning coverage of Obama in '08 as "Tiger Beat coverage".

    I remember having to explain "Iiger Beat" to some people.

    And I also remember linking to a hugely popular DKos diary which was just attractive pictures of Obama.  Including shirtless ones.

    At that point the "Tiger Beat" label needed no further explanation.

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    They did have a little blurb (none / 0) (#188)
    by jbindc on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 08:25:07 AM EST
    Yesterday within a story about how Sanders is closing the gap with HRC nationally. It's not something that gets reported, but the fact is, when we hear about "millenials" supporting Sanders, those reports should clarify that to mean "white millenials" (they support him 75-22 over Clinton).  However, black millenials support Clinton 64-25 over Sanders.

    So, maybe Politico is ahead of the game on this one.

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    Harry Reid (none / 0) (#34)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 02:40:38 PM EST
    is livid at one of Bernie's surrogates going after a dreamer not mad at Hillary. LOL.

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    But Harry Reid (none / 0) (#35)
    by jbindc on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 02:50:43 PM EST
    Is still refusun6g to endorse.  Wants a good figh to get voters out.

    But his hand picked successor DID endorse HRC.

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    "his hand picked successor" (5.00 / 2) (#37)
    by Mr Natural on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 02:59:07 PM EST
    oh yeah, democracy...

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    Coukd do worse (none / 0) (#42)
    by jbindc on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 03:22:11 PM EST
    Than a highly educated, experienced womam who also happens to be a Latina.

    Pretty good person to throw your suppirt to.

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    I understand (none / 0) (#36)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 02:56:14 PM EST
    she has Reid's people in Nevada working the caucuses for her. She also has Obama's caucus people and Bernie has gotten out the phone book calling people even Republicans to try to get them to come caucus for him.

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    There is a quirk in Nevada election law (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by CoralGables on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 04:01:52 PM EST
    that could let Republicans vote in both caucuses this year. They don't have to choose if they played their registration dates right.

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    I think NV (none / 0) (#114)
    by smott on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 01:48:35 PM EST
    Is going to be really close.
    Sanders campaign has been doing seemingly fairly organized gaming for weeks now.
    And Clinton's belated attempts at lowering expectations perhaps show her own internal polls look bad.

    Would not be surprised if he pulls off a "win" although you'd have to hope Clinton learned her lesson from being f****cked by the better organized Obama caucuses in 2008. Texas being the most educational example. Hillary of all people should be prepared.

    I guess we'll see.

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    Yeah, the race will continue regardless (none / 0) (#128)
    by ruffian on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 02:39:42 PM EST
    And there is not long to wait to see.

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    Washington Post (none / 0) (#59)
    by TrevorBolder on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 07:13:29 PM EST
    Chimes in.... Seems like no one can tell what to expect....yet

    http://tinyurl.com/jb4tqtv

    Until quite recently, Clinton's campaign saw Nevada as a chance for a face-saving victory after an anticipated defeat in New Hampshire. But that defeat turned out to be a trouncing. Now, the Sanders campaign is trying to prove that she can be beaten anywhere. ­Nevada, where the senator from Vermont is facing off against Clinton's allies among organized labor leaders and a ­Latino-heavy electorate, has become the first test.

    [The Fix: Why Hillary Clinton should be worried about Nevada]

     Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton takes a photo with a supporter's cell phone Sunday at a get-out-the-vote evnet at a Las Vegas community center. (Ethan Miller/Getty Images)
    Clinton's hopes rested on her overwhelming advantage among voters of color -- part of a "firewall" her aides have claimed in many states that follow overwhelmingly white Iowa and New Hampshire on the electoral calendar. Sanders, however, is betting that his appeal among young and working-class voters, revealed so dramatically in New Hampshire, is strong enough to transcend race.

    Nevada is a chance to disprove "this firewall fantasy that the Clinton campaign has put out there," said Jeff Weaver, Sanders's campaign manager. "If we do well, it destroys that myth.



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    If it is up for grabs, why is Bernie in Michigan? (5.00 / 1) (#73)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 08:14:14 PM EST
    LOL (none / 0) (#68)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 07:48:34 PM EST
    The top political analyst in Nevada changed his tune today.

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    Links? (none / 0) (#120)
    by smott on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 02:03:50 PM EST
    .?

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    Jon Ralston (none / 0) (#122)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 02:13:35 PM EST
    on twitter.

    Since no polling on Nevada nobody really knows what is going to happen but Bernie's campaign looks frenetic when they are on TV. All the complaining about the super delegates makes me think they know they can't win with regular delegates and the fact that Bernie so far has not been able to expand his appeal. I do know the thing that did concern the Clinton campaign was whether Hispanics were actually going to show up. They're all fired up and ready to vote for her for president but don't realize the importance of these caucuses.

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    So Jeff (none / 0) (#69)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 07:50:59 PM EST
    Weaver and Tad Devine are feeding BS to the press. Not surprised to find that out.

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    Sobering Budget figures (none / 0) (#33)
    by TrevorBolder on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 02:34:29 PM EST
    Washington Post article
    http://tinyurl.com/h6ufynp

    We now have a government that's doing less and costing more. By doing less, I mean that many traditional government programs -- from defense to federal courts -- are being slowly and systematically strangled by the costs of an older population (higher Social Security) and the related health-care spending (higher Medicare and Medicaid).

    How severe is the squeeze? The answer is in table S-7, buried in the back of the budget. Almost one-third of the federal budget consists of "discretionary spending," which covers defense, courts, parks and all programs requiring annual congressional appropriations (essentially, permission to spend). Most of the rest of the budget goes to "mandatory" programs -- Social Security is the biggest -- for which people qualify if they meet eligibility requirements.

    From 2017 to 2026, Social Security spending rises 27 percent, Medicare is up 30 percent and Medicaid increases 24 percent (note: some Medicaid spending goes to the non-elderly). Meanwhile, defense spending falls 19 percent, and non-defense discretionary spending (the category that includes the courts, regulatory agencies, the national parks and much more) drops 16 percent.



    On all budget discussions I wish (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 03:05:53 PM EST
    they would break out SS, which has its own income stream and trust fund, from the general funds.  Medicare also has its own income stream, if I remember my paystub correctly. What is the picture if at least SS is excluded? (Rhetorical question, not expecting you to answer.)

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    Do you mean they should ... (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by Robot Porter on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 03:42:56 PM EST
    put it in a lock box?

    ;)

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    It's IOUs!!!!!!! :-) (5.00 / 3) (#46)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 03:53:49 PM EST
    Liberal-leaning analysts don't agree (none / 0) (#48)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 05:11:35 PM EST
    w/Sanders' estimates of the cost of his proposals to the federal government.  See NYT front page.

    Occulus (5.00 / 1) (#53)
    by AnnL on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 06:40:40 PM EST
    I'm waiting for the Move On group to advocate a petition against the NYTimes!

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#49)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 05:53:24 PM EST
    they moved the goal posts from puppies and rainbows to magic flying puppies with winning lottery tickets attached to their collars.

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    I don't use the Times' (none / 0) (#94)
    by Mr Natural on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 04:30:51 AM EST
    make-it-look-like-a-Berliner reader, so digging up the front page is a royal pain, by today's definition, which means requiring more than three seconds.  What I'm getting at is this:

    Here's the link to your story.

    Left-Leaning Economists Question Cost of Bernie Sanders's Plans

    and

    Here's a vaguely related link to an NYT op-ed asking why Trump and Sanders now?

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    Choice # 1. (Sorry--iPad mini.) (none / 0) (#99)
    by oculus on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 09:06:56 AM EST
    That piece reminded me of a horrible (5.00 / 1) (#100)
    by Mr Natural on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 09:56:15 AM EST
    holiday dinner of many years ago.  I was in the first flush of earning money and had noticed alarming amounts of my money disappearing as taxes.  My youngest sister was in the middle of a Family Therapy PhD; her interest in saving everyone was in full flower.

    So we're both visiting my Mom in Florida.  Cape Coral - just another house on a brackish canal.  We were helping to make dinner, probably tacos with all the trimmings, an xmas tradition.  B. made a pronouncement about saving one group or another from something.  I asked what seemed like a reasonable question, "Who's going to pay for it?"  

    Evening over, at least for forty-five minutes.  What helped was stuffing our faces, during which we couldn't revisit the issue.

    I've still got a problem with pronouncements.


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    FOX ignores Bush bros (none / 0) (#50)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 06:04:48 PM EST
    Weird,
    They completely ignored it.   It was carried in full by the other news channels but I kept switching to see if they carried any of it.

    Nada.

    You you were watching FOX you would have know it even happened.

    Weird.  No?

    Ha! that is priceless (none / 0) (#54)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 06:41:35 PM EST
    what to do, what to do....embrace the false narrative that Bush was on the ball before 9/11, or embrace Trump's criticisms in the debate?

    Best to just move along and wait till after SC.

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    So how was it? (none / 0) (#57)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 07:05:16 PM EST
    I just commented below on the CNN W spin (none / 0) (#61)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 07:19:07 PM EST
    That we believe is solid bull$hit

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    We don't understand in this house (none / 0) (#60)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 07:17:42 PM EST
    The mainstream media spin that Dubya in South Carolina will stir the military vote. They must be joking.

    Conservative military won't diss W Bush, but NOBODY serving thinks we should have gone into Iraq now. Mass military consensus; one of the biggest mistakes this country has ever made. And so poorly executed, everyone is still shuddering and has nightmares.

    South Carolina Conservative military won't diss W, but be inspired in the voting booth by his presence? How? Why?

    I can't watch CNN (none / 0) (#62)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 07:27:07 PM EST
    I can't.  I put it on and I feel brain cells dying.  At least FOX & MSNBC are openly partisan.  
    Michael Steel say they are full of it.  It's will help Donald.

    As far as the question above of "how it went"

    I thought it was a unmitigated disaster.  It accented everything everyone hates about Jeb.  Dynasty, running on the family name plus he looked really bad following W.
    I wonder if that not why FOX chose to not carry it.

    IMO it was BAAAAAAAAAD for republicans.  

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    ah, that makes sense (none / 0) (#63)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 07:31:06 PM EST
    it if was overall bad for Republicans.

    It is just as smart people like Barbara Bush said - the country has had enough of the Bushes.

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    It instantly was clear (5.00 / 1) (#65)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 07:43:55 PM EST
    Why W was not invited to the last two republican conventions.

    You can't look at him without thinking about what he did to the country and the world.

    Everything out of his mouth about his presidency was a vile lie that has been proven since he left office.

    Donakd has once again shown counter intuitive brilliance.  

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    The Donald has only just begun (5.00 / 1) (#66)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 07:47:56 PM EST
    To disembowel the Bush Brothers team.

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    One (5.00 / 1) (#74)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 08:18:19 PM EST
    Awesome (none / 0) (#80)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 08:55:58 PM EST
    Agree all the way around (none / 0) (#64)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 07:31:48 PM EST
    We have been just about off grid for awhile. I'm seeing a lot for the first time tonight.

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    Morning in America! (none / 0) (#67)
    by robert72 on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 07:48:32 PM EST
    Rubio has put up a new ad titled "Morning Again in America"..... It opens with this, with a sunrise picture of a city - Vancouver, BC.... Apparently his people aren't answering questions on this.

    Well it is North America (5.00 / 3) (#71)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 07:54:59 PM EST
    Funny! (none / 0) (#81)
    by robert72 on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 08:56:36 PM EST
    Close enough, I guess.

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    Maybe they meant to say that ... (none / 0) (#82)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 09:01:21 PM EST
    ... it's morning in America again for Canadian tourists who want to visit Hawaii, because the air fares to Honolulu out of Bellingham Int'l Airport, just south of the border in Washington state, are generally only 60% of what they are out of Vancouver Int'l 20 miles north. That might be the most plausible of any far-fetched explanations.

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    No..... (none / 0) (#89)
    by robert72 on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 10:17:06 PM EST
    That won't really 'fly', although the US is missing the Canadian tourists and are providing deals - with the Canadian dollar at 73 cents, Canadians aren't going to the US much. Bellingham malls are really feeling the pinch.
    Come and visit us - we are cheap!

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    I like Bellingham. (none / 0) (#110)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 12:19:44 PM EST
    But then, I like western Washington state and southwestern British Columbia generally, because I consider it to be one of the most beautiful regions in the entire world. You are blessed to live up there.

    I ended up getting rerouted by Alaska Airlines through Bellingham last May while returning home from a business trip to Redmond / Bend, OR, because my flight to Seattle was late leaving Redmond Airport, so I was going to miss my connecting flight to Honolulu, and the next one wasn't for another seven-plus hours.

    But the intrepid agent at Alaska's check-in counter at Redmond noticed that their flight to HNL from Bellingham was both a lot earlier and wide open, and that my original flight from RDM to SEA also continued on to BLI, so she rebooked me accordingly. I only had a two-hour layover at Bellingham -- a nice little airport with only six gates -- and got home four hours earlier than I would have otherwise, had I sat around at Sea-Tac.

    So, a shout-out to the good folks at Alaska Airlines, which is definitely one of our country's better air carriers today.

    Aloha.

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    Rubio can (none / 0) (#112)
    by KeysDan on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 01:31:56 PM EST
    give the ad to Cruz--free of charge.

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    PPP Poll from South Carolina released tonight (none / 0) (#76)
    by CoralGables on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 08:39:39 PM EST
    Clinton +21

    GOP
    Trump  35
    Cruz    18
    Rubio   18
    Kasich  10
    Bush      7
    Carson   7

    Bush should (none / 0) (#77)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 08:42:09 PM EST
    probably be out after SC if that poll is correct.

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    I can't see any of them leaving (none / 0) (#78)
    by CoralGables on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 08:47:55 PM EST
    prior to March 1st when I think there are about 14 GOP Primary/Caucuses.

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    Yeah, why not, if they can afford it (none / 0) (#79)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 08:52:05 PM EST
    Maybe because (5.00 / 1) (#121)
    by smott on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 02:11:08 PM EST
    If they dont winnow it down such that there is a single (at most 2) opponent(s) to oppose The Donald, it will be too late to stop his momentum.

    The Party needs to get its collective sh*t together, and fast.

    And I don't think they will.

    Carson is staying in just to pi$$ on Cruz.
    Cruz isn't going anywhere.
    Kasich? Nah. Too mainstream.
    Rubio was their hard-on a week ago, dunno if they can let go of him that fast.
    They've given like 90mil to Jeb, and he can't get out of single digits. Can they kiss that much dinero goodbye?

    It's a total goat f*ck. They waited this long hoping Donald would implode, meanwhile he is slowly gathering numbers.

    In some way I have to admire the guy.
    Who else has successfully given the middle finger to the Koch brothers?

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    Yes, it is kind of another (none / 0) (#124)
    by ruffian on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 02:21:08 PM EST
    way where Trump is the bizarro Sanders. The theory of Trump is that it takes another billionaire to flip off the billionaires. Whereas Sanders is the opposite approach - it take 60 million non-billionaires.

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    Of course Trump (none / 0) (#125)
    by smott on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 02:31:29 PM EST
    Should he get in will no doubt accept much of the Koch's agenda.

    As someone who generally rejects the notion of true Evil, I have to say that Charles and David Koch make me re-consider.

    Good info [here https://www.dissentmagazine.org/online_articles/jane-mayer-dark-money-review-koch-brothers-gop] re how deep we're in the sh*t on the progressive side.

    How different might things be today if David Koch had actually not made it out of that burning USAir plane in that crash at LAX back in the 90's? You have to wonder.

    I saw an interview w him once about it, where he appeared to lament that he just scrambled out, and never tried to help anyone else, or even yelled for them to follow him.  

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    Bugger!! (none / 0) (#126)
    by smott on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 02:32:31 PM EST
    Sorry the link mess up, dunno what indie wrong! HTTPS maybe??

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    I always put my link first and then the text (none / 0) (#127)
    by ruffian on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 02:38:27 PM EST
    maybe that is it.

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    Well....? (none / 0) (#135)
    by smott on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 03:06:37 PM EST
    Last few times I did it and it worked I had the link last ....curses!!!

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    Anybody else watching Vinyl? (none / 0) (#83)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 09:06:00 PM EST
    I am about to watch the first episode. It looks like HBO will let you watch the second episode right now too on demand.

    Stress level has been crazy here so haven't kept up on Downton either.

    We did go to Deadpool last night, I have mixed reviews on Deadpool. Funny yes, but Kickass was so much better.

    See Hail Caesar! I loved it, laughed so hard. (none / 0) (#84)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 09:09:00 PM EST
    Great stress relief.

    Haven't watched Vinyl yet, but I will. Love to see Bobby Cannavale go nuts.

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    I second that Hail Caesar! (none / 0) (#85)
    by caseyOR on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 09:13:28 PM EST
    recommendation. Laughed so hard and so often during that movie.

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    I will go see it (none / 0) (#86)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 15, 2016 at 09:13:47 PM EST
    Deadpool was full of wit, but very action oriented, and they just didn't write and edit to make the most of the wit with all the constant action. Timing is so much in comedy

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    "Hail Caesar!" has to be one of the ... (none / 0) (#167)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 05:40:31 PM EST
    ... most meandering movies I've even seen, and I really didn't mind in the least. I laughed out loud at that scene with self-absorbed director Laurence Lorenz (Ralph Feinnes) and "Aw, shucks!" cowboy western star Hobey Doyle (Alden Ehrenreich). That was perhaps the funniest thing I've seen onscreen in the last five years.

    Those who are expecting something deep, dark and mysterious from the Coen Brothers are going to be disappointed that they shifted gears to purposely go lightweight. Everyone looks like they had an awful lot of fun making that film. It was certainly a lot of fun to watch, even if I never really understood its salient point about the Hollywood studio system. And maybe that was its point, after all -- the system itself was mindless and ripe for parody.

    Aloha.

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    Anyone expecting something (5.00 / 1) (#169)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 05:48:27 PM EST
    Dark and mysterious probably never saw Raising Arizona or the Hudsucker Proxy or any of their other screwball comedies.

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    I loved "Hudsucker." (none / 0) (#179)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 11:43:37 PM EST
    Tim Robbins was the perfect mix of naiveté and dipschittery, Paul Newman was never better as the smarmy corporate CEO who takes advantage of him, and Jennifer Jason Leigh uncannily channeled Katherine Hepburn in a way that really did the legendary actress justice.

    The over the top scene at the end with those men trying to catch Newman with a giant butterfly net is priceless. It's a shame that "Hudsucker" bombed at the box office. As comedies go, it's one of the more smartly written ones ever made. People really ought to give it a chance if they've never seen it before.

    Aloha.

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    Totally agree (none / 0) (#175)
    by ruffian on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 07:43:45 PM EST
    I was happy to check in on any situation they decided to show me.

    I had the tears streaming down my face during that scene you mentioned. Haven't laughed that hard in a movie since Tootsie.

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    Podcast 'You Must Remember This' (none / 0) (#97)
    by ruffian on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 06:46:43 AM EST
    is back with a series on the Hollywood Blacklist. 3 episodes out so far - most recent on Dorothy Parker.

    Karina Longworth writes and broadcasts the podcast - she has a casual, but informative, style, and the episodes are well produced with music and audio clips.  All of the previous series have been entertaining and informative. Highly recommend!

    Former UN Chief Boutros Boutros-Ghali Dead (none / 0) (#103)
    by Mr Natural on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 11:13:04 AM EST
    [Boutros-Ghali] wrote in his 1999 book "Unvanquished" that he "mistakenly assumed that the great powers, especially the United States, also trained their representatives in diplomacy and accepted the value of it. But the Roman Empire had no need for diplomacy. Neither does the United States."



    Socila Media Question (none / 0) (#104)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 11:19:24 AM EST
    What happens when you hit one of the links/icons in the post.  In order they appear to be Digg, Stumbleupon, Delicious, Reddit, Facebook, Seed Link, and Twitter.

    I am not on any social media, although I am aware of Facebook and Twitter, the others, some of which I have never heard of, I am not.

    Also is anyone using a reader for TL, it is possible ?  I tried to use it on my phone and it's just a pain, does not scale properly.

    If you had an account on the outlet you chose (none / 0) (#123)
    by ruffian on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 02:17:30 PM EST
    it would post the link to the article you are reading to your page on that site. I don't know all of those, but some may be aggregators (Digg) where you would save a link to read later, or else sharing sites like Twitter and Facebook where your 'friends' or followers could see the link.

    I've had mixed results with readers - some like Flipboard make it nice to read Jeralyn's posts, but you can't see the comments. I don't look at TL on my phone much.

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    MSNBS mentions they're sorry (none / 0) (#113)
    by smott on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 01:43:50 PM EST
    After the horse is out of the barn.

    What I would like to know is if they did (5.00 / 1) (#115)
    by ruffian on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 01:53:50 PM EST
    their own edit, or just grabbed something that was already going around and ran with it. Seems likely it is the latter, and that is even worse in my book.

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    Yeah who knows (none / 0) (#117)
    by smott on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 02:01:33 PM EST
    But the pattern of slamming Bubba, Beacuse Clinton, is pretty well-established.
    I pointed it out because it's rather unusual. Not sure how meaningful.
    Perhaps our famously impartial MSM is finally realizing that they're going to get President Trump if they don't , you know, start investigating, vetting, and Reporting fairly?

    Crazy notion, I know.

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    Oh (none / 0) (#141)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 03:39:14 PM EST
    My bet is they did it.   If you watch the channel a lot, I do, you see this stuff every day.  From the subtle to the not at all subtle.   They got called onthis one.   They have been called several times.   But far from every time.

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    Msnvbc apology (5.00 / 1) (#116)
    by AnnL on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 02:01:15 PM EST
    They sort of apologized still maintain he was off message. I believe they call this a no apology apology

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    Yeah perhaps (none / 0) (#119)
    by smott on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 02:02:23 PM EST
    Certainly not their fault. If anything, Bubba's fault.
    Because, Clinton.

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    Msnbc (none / 0) (#118)
    by AnnL on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 02:02:00 PM EST
    Sorry no v

    Jeb! loses his glasses (none / 0) (#130)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 02:51:34 PM EST
    Was that because W said yesterday, "Hey 4 eyes, lose the glasses poindexter"

    Oy! (none / 0) (#133)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 03:00:07 PM EST

    In an interview today with Michael Savage -- one of the craziest, most hateful right wing radio hosts in the US -- Donald Trump once again pandered to the loons by suggesting Justice Antonin Scalia might have been murdered.

    "It's a horrible topic but they say they found the pillow on his face, which is a pretty unusual place to find a pillow. I can't give you an answer. I literally just heard it a little while ago. It's just starting to come out now, as you know, Michael."



    Oh, I don't know.... (none / 0) (#134)
    by NYShooter on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 03:04:21 PM EST
    I think Savage would make the PERFECT Trump campaign manager.

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    Ok (none / 0) (#137)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 03:15:23 PM EST
    My comment "Oy" was more about what he actually said.

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    lol, I wasn't really (none / 0) (#159)
    by NYShooter on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 05:05:10 PM EST
    responding to that comment. The thought of Trump & Savage together in some capacity simply triggered that picture in my mind. The fact that reality isn't a perquisite for their many wacko proposals is the "Tie That Binds" them, inextricably, together.

    Sorry if that was confusing.

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    From What I Have Read... (none / 0) (#143)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 03:44:40 PM EST
    ... which isn't much but the part where he was declared dead over the phone led me to believe this was prime pickens for a grand conspiracy theory.

    Didn't take long.  So what is the angle, some democrats sneaked into a hunting resort and put a pillow over Scalia's face because they are worried HRC isn't going to win ?  Why not just pull a Cheney and 'accidentally' shot him.

    I thought RBG would surely retire before Obama left office considering there is a chance that Trump could go the distance, never occurred to me that murdering the most conservative judge was an option.  I would have though Thomas would be an easier mark as the guy seems half dead already and he would not put up much of a struggle.


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    Soon they will have (none / 0) (#145)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 03:49:30 PM EST
    Hillary and Obana directing the operation from the war room like the Bin Laden raid.

    Maybe Michael Bay will make a movie .

    I has not heard the "pillow on the face" thing.  But I haven't really been following.

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    Then you also may be missing (none / 0) (#148)
    by Towanda on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 04:03:55 PM EST
    that (the late) Leonard Nimoy killed Scalia.

    Seriously, that's out there, too.  'Way out there.

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    You made me google (5.00 / 1) (#158)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 04:44:18 PM EST
    You're probably thinking, "Isn't Leonard Nimoy dead?" That's what Spock wants you to believe. According to HardDawn, he has actually been consolidating Illuminati power since faking his own death. And Nimoy, referred to as "the Pinnacle of the Draco," is the "wild card" in a plot to assassinate Scalia.

    HARDDAWN is a satire site.

    The satirical website HardDawn.com: Because Morning in America Won't Be Easy,

    Hopefully everyone knows that?

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    Well, (none / 0) (#151)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 04:12:04 PM EST
    She already has the murder of Vince Foster under her belt, so, you know.

    (Of course, all those conspiracy theorists can't explain why she'd kill one of her best friends, but would allow all of Bill's women to keep walking around).

    Some of the events around Scalia's death seem a little ham-handed, but then you have to realize that he was in the middle of nowhere.  When they took his body, it was a 3 1/2 hour drive to get to the funeral home.  It's not like he died at his home in McLean, VA.

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    My advice to (none / 0) (#156)
    by KeysDan on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 04:34:41 PM EST
    the wingnuts is to leave it go.  The plausibility of an 80-year old passing away peacefully is the story that they should stick to. Although, despite the remote location, it would seem that of his nine kids, one could get on a plane to El Paso. Also,  there is already  enough mystery in the details provided, and if a scandal really surfaces it may not be one they bargained for.

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    In (none / 0) (#146)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 03:50:29 PM EST
    these conspiracy theories they never fail to mention that his family declined to have an autopsy done. So if there's any conspiracy to me it would be the fact that he might have been really sick with something and keeping it secret. I don't know but was the family surprised about him passing?

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    Are You Kidding... (none / 0) (#150)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 04:11:10 PM EST
    ... no autopsy, for whatever reason, is the kind of stuff that fuels these theories.  I zm sure he has a sizable estate so the family could surely be in on it, especially if there is a democrat lurking in there.

    OMG, I actually stumbled on this looking to see who survived Scalia.

    As to why the US Air Force provided F-16 fighter aircraft protection to Justice Scalia's flight, this report continues, became even more concerning to the SVR when after the flight landed in Marfa, Texas, this "extreme protective air cover" was maintained until the Gulfstream C-37A departed three hours later and flew to Los Angeles Air Force Base (LAAFB) accompanied by its fighter plane escort--and where at the exact same time the American press covering President Obama began questioning where he was, only to be told that President Obama had been missing due to a late-night, off-the-books dinner with three of Hollywood's elite the White House wouldn't further comment on.

    This SVR report, though, "strongly suggests" that President Obama had, in fact, been aboard the Gulfstream C-37A with Justice Scalia from Andrews Field to Marfa and then further traveled from Texas to Los Angeles on it--which they say is the only conclusion to be reached due to the US Air Force's continuous protection of it.

    In support of this conclusion, this report continues, AF radar and electronic spectrum satellite analysis of Marfa, where the Gulfstream C-37A landed with Justice Scalia and (maybe) President Obama, shows a four vehicle convoy leaving the KMRF airport and traveling to a 12,140 hectar (30,000 acre) estate called the Cibolo Creek Ranch.

    Critical to note about this Cibolo Creek Ranch, this report says, is that is owned by Texas multi-millionaire John Poindexter--who aside from being the owner of the vast conglomerate J.B. Poindexter&Co., Inc., is a longtime personal friend of President Obama who in one of his first duties upon elected bestowed a war medal upon Poindexter for his service during the Vietnam War.  

    LINK

    Basically they think Obama did it personally with the aid of the resorts owner.  That is beyond cool, it has everything, even US's villain, Obama being the actual murder.  Complete with an poll stating that 79% of the population thinks foul play was involved.

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    The family did not want an autopsy done (none / 0) (#152)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 04:15:16 PM EST
    He was an almost 80 year old man with several health problems.

    I'm not sure how hard it is for people to understand that. I lived it - when my father died and my mother did not want an autopsy done and my aunts (his sisters) kept questioning her decision.  His death was unexpected, but he was someone with diabetes and a heart condition.  It would't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.

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    Come On... (none / 0) (#154)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 04:33:05 PM EST
    ...you think the people that come up with this care about reality ?

    What I was saying is that any deviation from what is thought of as the norm is going to fuel this kind of non-sense.  But if you read the link, and I wouldn't expect anyone to, but no mention that the family didn't want the autopsy, just that none was done.

    It takes a very clever mind to mix all the half facts into one large fairly well researched theory, but I don't believe the creators of them actually believe them, they just like messing with people, IMO.  I'd like to think someone like Andy Kaufman is behind most of these theories since he is still alive.

    Personally, I like them, a lot, the better they are done the more I like them but only for the entertainment value.  As I have mentioned in other threads, I am prone from time to time to argue that we never landed on the moon, even though we did, nor do I think AK is alive.

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    True, no autopsy (none / 0) (#161)
    by KeysDan on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 05:11:28 PM EST
    in the sudden death of well-known people may spawn doubt, if not endless and enduring conspiracy theories. The sudden death of Pope John Paul I (Albino Luciani) continues to be a prominent conspiracy theory.  The "thirty day pope" was found dead in his bed after not answering the door knock for morning coffee brought to him by a nun who served him for many years while Archbishop of Venice, and had come along with him to Rome. Sister Vincenza raced to inform his secretary, Msgr. John Magee, who, in turn, notified the Cardinal Villot, the second in command.  

    Villot's actions and description of events introduced skepticism, especially when small details were found to be inaccurate, such as the story that it was Msgr. Magee who found the Pope. And, the cause of death was established as a heart attack, although this was questioned by his private physician. And, no autopsy, it was said because that just was not done (although there was precedent).

    Some of the events, such as having a male find the Pope, rather than a nun, were better for public consumption at the time. However, the conspiracies were off and running.

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    And it made for a great sub-plot ... (none / 0) (#165)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 05:17:11 PM EST
    ... in "The Godfather, Part III."

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    Truly interesting comment (none / 0) (#136)
    by smott on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 03:13:34 PM EST
    I saw mentioning Trump and his theme of jobs moving overseas and how he will bring them back from China, India et al....

    A clever pincers move.  The out-sourcing/free-trade free market Capitalism that the GOP champions, of course because it enriches the 1% while decimating the middle/working class....here Donald turns it on its head.....those evil outsourcers,  giving our jobs and our money to those shady brown people in India and China.....

    It's perfect. That free market that everybody is supposed to love? Eff that.

    I think that part of his (5.00 / 1) (#138)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 03:18:43 PM EST
    "Message" is really important.   Big part of the republican base feels screwed by "free trade"

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    Spot on (none / 0) (#162)
    by smott on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 05:13:13 PM EST
    It really is brilliant in its way, getting at the heart of what the GOP is doing.

    Is it planned by trump? If so perhaps I've not given him enough credit.....

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    Well (5.00 / 1) (#170)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 05:50:41 PM EST
    If he "stumbled into this" he certainly seems to stumble pretty consistently.

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    This is not meant (none / 0) (#139)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 03:25:50 PM EST
    As derogatory or insulting comment.

    I was just watching Bernie.  He doesn't look that good.  This has be be grueling at any age.  I would certainly hate to think about trying it.

    Just sayin.  He looks like it's taking a toll.   Hillary too, while we are on the subject.  But Bernie can't wear as much foundation.

    ... fighting a bad cold on the campaign trail these last few weeks. Put you and me out there with a bad cold repeatedly in front of numerous audiences, and we'd likely look like s---, too.

    He should probably take a few days off and recoup.

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    I share the concern (none / 0) (#140)
    by Towanda on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 03:37:09 PM EST
    having seen him, heard the constant coughing, etc., in the debate last week.  I wondered whether he had planned on being at this pace by this point in the campaign, pushed to be constantly on planes (bad for anyone's health) and in crowds, etc.

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    Just watching him (none / 0) (#142)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 03:41:02 PM EST
    I was thinking, he is the same age as my brother.   My brother would not last a month on this schedule.

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    Yeah, (none / 0) (#144)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 03:48:01 PM EST
    I have noticed that too especially at the debate. It sounds like he has had a cold that he has not been able to shake or something. His age kinda hit home with me because of Scalia dying and he was only 4 to 5 years older than Bernie.

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    It's a God-awful schedule (none / 0) (#166)
    by smott on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 05:18:11 PM EST
    I remember admiring Clinton for this same thing in 2008....she just kept plugging, completely indefatigueable.
    Actually I also recall how tired Obama looked.
    I think he really hated the grind of campaigning, and maybe doesn't much like the burdens of office either.

    Clinton on the other hand seemed to suck it up cheerfully and keep churning.

    But it's a crazy grind and I don't for a moment blame Sanders if he's looking a little frayed. Unfortunately for him there's 8 more months, and it doesn't get easier.

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    Obama (5.00 / 1) (#168)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 05:40:51 PM EST
    has aged a lot but that is what the office does to you. It takes a toll on everybody. I couldn't believe the energy Hillary had 8 years ago for a 60 year old. I think being SOS took a toll on her too as she's not as energetic as she was back then either. Obama seemed to like the first few primaries and then he seemed bored with it. I don't know if he has ever really liked being President that much. I don't know but it seems Bill Clinton just loved the job along with Reagan was another one that seemed to love the job. Those are the only two in my lifetime that seemed that way anyway.

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    Obama enjoys the golf ... (none / 0) (#173)
    by Robot Porter on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 06:11:20 PM EST
    but other than that he's just been counting the days till his big post-presidency payday.

    I expect his post-presidency to be more like W than Clinton.

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    Maybe so. (5.00 / 1) (#174)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 06:40:51 PM EST
    I hope you are wrong though and he chooses to be more like Clinton and Carter and try to make a difference.

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    He's already made a difference. (5.00 / 1) (#176)
    by Mr Natural on Tue Feb 16, 2016 at 08:41:45 PM EST
    Not only (none / 0) (#180)
    by Nemi on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 06:32:32 AM EST
    due to the SOS job, let's not forget she is 8 years older than back then. Still I admire not only her - then as well as now - but everybody else in the race, for seemingly not being bothered by the constant travelling. I would be exhausted. And it would show, for sure.

    As for Bill Clinton, I recall how he, litterally beaming with joy at the mere thought, admitted he would have loved a third term. :)

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    Reports this morning (none / 0) (#213)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 09:19:59 AM EST
    That ISIS is cutting salaries and worse cutting off access to energy drinks and power bars!

    WINNING!

    /s

    re: 139 (none / 0) (#215)
    by ruffian on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 09:44:53 AM EST
    Going from the schedule of a small state Senator to that of a presidential candidate, and then on to POTUS, has to be a huge shock to the system, even for a younger person. It is something to consider. Are the Dems planning for a one term or two term presidency in this round?  

    ISIS Cut Salaries... (none / 0) (#216)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 10:27:28 AM EST
    ...a month ago by 50% with no exceptions, from generals to soldiers.

    ISIS might seem like a ragtag group of terrorists, but in reality, it operates as a government over parts of Iraq and Syria. And it hands out biweekly paychecks to its jihadist army.

    ISIS soldiers earn between $400 and $1,200 a month, plus a $50 stipend for their wives and $25 for each child, according to the Congressional Research Service.

    But running a state at war is expensive. And recent victories for the U.S.-led coalition against ISIS mean that the Islamic State can't afford to pay its soldiers quite as much as it used to.

    Not sure if those wages are before or after the cut.

    Kdog (none / 0) (#217)
    by jbindc on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 11:24:38 AM EST
    Bloomberg takes lots of Dems with him too.

    He didn't get elected mayor of NYC by appealing to Tea Party types.

    re 217 (none / 0) (#218)
    by ruffian on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 01:07:00 PM EST
    I think Bloomberg would have a serious chance of winning a race between himself, Trump, and Sanders. He will not run if he doesn't assess it that way.

    He is preferable to Trump for most Dems, so in a close race if it looks like he is the better way to win, I know which way I would vote.

    New PPP poll (none / 0) (#219)
    by CST on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 01:21:18 PM EST
    For super tuesday states

    Hillary has big leads in most states.  Bernie is up +76 in Vermont, and +7 in MA - although neither one is at 50% in MA yet.

    Looks like a pretty good day for Clinton is coming.

    Basically - this is coming down to race for the most part.  Although by that metric Bernie should probably be doing better in MA, but I think you still have a lot of "establishment" Dems.  That being said, you also have a lot of white liberals and college kids, so it's not too surprising either way.

    Our stuff was taken (none / 0) (#220)
    by vicndabx on Wed Feb 17, 2016 at 01:24:36 PM EST
    largely due to technological advances in manufacturing and global competition.  The  malfeasance by politicians was in the failure to agree on policies that address these changes.

    NYShooter, you should have finished reading (none / 0) (#221)
    by Mr Natural on Thu Feb 18, 2016 at 04:27:38 AM EST
    my post re "resilc"

    It is the moniker of a specific contributor.