Trump and Hillary win Florida, Kasich Takes Ohio

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2016
Posted on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 09:14:55 PM EST
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Update 10:45 pm MT: Hillary just took the lead in Missouri, but it's still a virtual tie. She won the other four states today. In Florida, she got over a million votes to Bernie's 550,000.

Missouri is not a winner take all state, so a win by Bernie won't mean much. Bernie spoke in Phoenix, he looks so exhausted and he's hoarse. His first words (of course): "Phoenix, are you ready for a political revolution?" According to David Axelrod on CNN, Bernie spent $4 million on Friday in a single state. He's spending like Jeb Bush, and it seems like it will be just as futile.

Notice that Hillary's campaign is not calling on Bernie to drop out. Personally, I may think it's time, but it's probably correct to say that in the long run, if Hillary wants Bernie's supporters to vote for her in November, it's better not to antagonize them now that the end for him is obviously so close. [More...]

It's only March, and there's enough time for Dems to go full blast on Donald. (When Obama supporters called on Hillary to drop out, I wrote a sharply worded post on why that was wrong. But I also said in that same post that I would support Obama as soon as she did drop out, and that's what she would have wanted her supporters to do. I reiterated that as soon as it was publicly disclosed she had decided to drop out. (Big Tent Democrat had the same views of calls to drop out, three months earlier.)

I expect all but the most rigid Hillary haters (and possibly the very young Bernie supporters who are first time participants in the system) will switch from Bernie to Hillary if given the space to do it in their own time. (I exempt youth because youth turnout has historically been so low, I won't be surprised if many can't be bothered to vote once their number one choice is gone.) I do have some lingering concerns that because Bernie has not been a long time Democrat, he may not put whats best for Dems over what's best for his legacy, but I'm hoping I'm wrong. And yes, I have called on Bernie to drop out before, as recently as last week, but I'm walking that back now.

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Has Marco Rubio dropped out yet? He lost his home state of Florida by 18 points (as of now) to Donald Trump. (Added: Answer yes, he suspended his campaign after the loss.)

Trump also took Illinois and North Carolina, and is leading in Missouri.

But he lost Ohio by 7 points (as of now) to John Kasich. Cruz did okay in a couple of states. (See updates below for his speech tonight.) Is there really a path for Kasich or Cruz?

Hillary won Florida with 65% of the vote, NC with 55% of the vote, Ohio with 57% of the vote, and Illinois with 52% (as of now.) Bernie is leading in Missouri but it hasn't been called yet.

Trump just gave a press conference. He commended Rubio for the campaign he ran. He didn't say anything memorable while I was tuned in.

What does Bernie do now? These are some pretty big states he lost. Can he possibly catch up?

As soon as Fox or CNN go to their "panels," I hit the mute button. Megyn Kelly's speech is very halting, she's very hard to listen to. Until this election cycle, I hadn't seen her on TV in about 10 years. I don't remember her speech being so "unfluid" for lack of a better word. Tucker Carlson was on Fox, I didn't recognize him. What is up with his 1980's preppy college hairdo? I tried CNN but that "Gloria" person was on who I find very annoying -- probably because I've never figured out why she's on in the first place.

Update: I just saw a clip from Rubio's speech, he seemed about to cry. Ted Cruz is about to speak, he may be waiting for Missouri to be called, he's neck and neck with Trump there right now. St Louis is still out. Karl Rove thinks Trump will take MO, Joe Trippi thinks Hillary will end up with Missouri for the Dems.

Fox says Trump is only about 100 delegates ahead of Cruz. Karl Rove says a total of 1663 delegates have been awarded, Trump has 619. (Again, Missouri isn't in yet.) Rove says only 200 of the 900 or so remaining delegates are winner takes all.

LOL, Carly Fiorina (sp) is speaking live to the Cruz crowd and Fox has muted her. (It is showing a split screen with commercials on the left and Fiorina on the right, and the only audio is the commercials.) Wow, Cruz just started speaking and Fox didn't switch the audio. It kept playing the sound for the commercials for at least 30 seconds.

"Hillary tosses and turns in her jail cell" because of Carly Fiorina. Is he telling us she'd be his VP pick? It seems so.

"Tonight was a good night." He's on the path to the needed 1237 delegates. He eulogizes Marco Rubio. He says the MSM is partisan democrats wanting Trump to run so he loses to Hillary. His voice lacks conviction tonight. It's like even he doesn't believe what he's saying. His smile is very sad. (It's certainly not the smile of a happy person.) Tonight he says jobs is his first priority. (I thought it was the Supreme Court.) He will make Washington "less relevant" in our lives. (Is he moving Congress to Texas?). Hillary "buys and sells info." (Is he on drugs?) He perked up a little as he went on.

I finally figured out who Ted Cruz reminds me of. Grandpa Munster.

What's clear to me tonight: It's Trump vs Hillary in November.

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maybe some of Sanders dirty tricks and ads (5.00 / 4) (#1)
by athyrio on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 09:18:00 PM EST

backfired, after he had pledged to run a clean campaign .

: I hope it backfired in a major way... (5.00 / 2) (#6)
by Cashmere on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 09:37:10 PM EST

The Rahm connection to her was in very poor taste from my perspective. But, it is politics!

Yes, Rubio officially threw in (5.00 / 1) (#2)
by caseyOR on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 09:18:25 PM EST

the towel tonight.

And then there were three.

Really Only Two (none / 0) (#9)
by CoralGables on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 09:39:04 PM EST

Kasich will be mathematically eliminated tonight.

And yes Jeralyn, Cruz still technically has a path. Not a paved path, but rather a bumpy litter strewn path (at least for now)


: Should Hillary (none / 0) (#42)
by jbindc on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 07:20:44 AM EST

Wrap it up early, do you think it's a possibility that Dems will cross over in upcoming "blue" states to vote for Cruz and stop the Trump juggernaut?

I'm sure that he accepted his failure ... (none / 0) (#10)
by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 10:08:06 PM EST

... with quiet dignity and grace.


¡No más! ¡No más! (none / 0) (#63)
by Mr Natural on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 01:54:32 PM EST

Sort of mucks with (5.00 / 3) (#3)
by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 09:22:17 PM EST

The Bernista thing about how he is winning blue states and she is only winning red ones

According to a tweet, he spoke for 60 (5.00 / 1) (#14)
by oculus on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 10:18:18 PM EST

minutes but did not mention Hillary Clinton.

According to a tweet, Sanders spoke (5.00 / 1) (#15)
by oculus on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 10:19:21 PM EST

for 69 minutes and never mentioned HRC.

Which is it, AIC? (none / 0) (#16)
by oculus on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 10:23:19 PM EST

60 min. Mentioned HRC twice.


Bernie thinks he ... (5.00 / 1) (#21)
by Robot Porter on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 11:24:31 PM EST

can win the presidency with a filibuster.


In monotone. (5.00 / 2) (#37)
by oculus on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 12:53:37 AM EST

His filibusters in the Senate (none / 0) (#59)
by ruffian on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 01:26:37 PM EST

should have been a lot more effective. I guess the other members were not required to sit there and listen or they would have given him anything he wanted in 2 hours.


: Modern philibusters, if I recall correctly, (none / 0) (#61)
by Mr Natural on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 01:34:03 PM EST

do not require talking.

That's not fair, Jeralyn. (5.00 / 1) (#17)
by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 10:23:58 PM EST

Jeralyn: "I finally figured out who Ted Cruz reminds me of. Grandpa Munster."

The late Al Lewis, who played Grandpa, was actually a passionate and lifelong left-wing liberal.

I think Grayson Allen, the Duke Blue Devils' latest evil wunderkind, is Ted Cruz's secret love child.

;-P

I knew Al Lewis. I worked with Al Lewis. (none / 0) (#41)
by jondee on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 07:03:39 AM EST

Ted Cruz is no Al Lewis.


I've actually made the Al Lewis ... (none / 0) (#46)
by Robot Porter on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 08:35:45 AM EST

comparison many times.

I think I may have made it here. Definitely made it on FB.


: I've made it too. (none / 0) (#48)
by Mr Natural on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 08:45:44 AM EST

What Cruz really reminds me of is James Ellroy's character, Wayne Tedrow Jr., in the Cold Six Thousand/Underworld USA trilogy.
Cruz has that early sixties crooked cop look.

Yes, Al Lewis used to have ... (none / 0) (#47)
by Robot Porter on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 08:38:14 AM EST

a show on WBAI where he espoused his very far left views. (He'd make Sanders look like Republican.) And talked like a bebopper.


Big night for Hillary! (5.00 / 3) (#20)
by Robot Porter on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 11:05:47 PM EST

She should increase her pledged delegate lead to about 350.

She is now ahead in Missouri with 99% in! (5.00 / 4) (#30)
by Cashmere on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 11:58:54 PM EST

What a fabulous night for Hillary.


Yup, really shows ... (5.00 / 6) (#32)
by Robot Porter on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 12:04:26 AM EST

her strength as a politician and the strength of her campaign.

Because she didn't have a great week. But she gutted it out. Stuck to the fundamentals. Scored some big wins. And fought back any Sanders surge.

Impressive stuff.


Not a natural politician (5.00 / 3) (#38)
by FreakyBeaky on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 01:27:25 AM EST

She does it the way she does anything else - a hell of a lot of hard work and persistence.


She may not be ... (none / 0) (#45)
by Robot Porter on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 08:33:10 AM EST

a natural campaigner.

But she's quite a natural in the actual work of being a politician. For example, her constituent services operation when she was a Senator in NY was stellar.

People who know told me it was the best they'd ever seen. The only one that came close, they said, was Robert Kennedy's.

We saw a recent example of this in her reaction to the Flint crisis. If she governs as president like that she'll get very high marks.


: Yes (5.00 / 1) (#53)
by Ga6thDem on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 09:36:28 AM EST

a friend of mine worked on her 2008 campaign, (RIP), and he said that her constituents in NY were just crazy about her.
And yes, she's actually a better politician than either her husband or Obama while both of them are better campaigners for sure. I don't think I've seen anyone who loved the campaign trail as much as Bill did or does.

: The "not a natural campaigner" framing (none / 0) (#49)
by Mr Natural on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 08:53:11 AM EST

paid off.

CNN called Illinois ... (5.00 / 1) (#22)
by Robot Porter on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 11:27:18 PM EST

for Clinton.

Looks like Sanders (5.00 / 1) (#23)
by CoralGables on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 11:34:41 PM EST

may hold onto Missouri by the skin of his teeth. Up by .4% with just 2% of the vote still out. If there is more still to come from St Louis, Clinton could sneak past him.

It won't matter. This is one election night narrative that isn't won by Sanders. He got pummeled tonight both in votes and in delegates.


Do you think if he ... (5.00 / 1) (#24)
by Robot Porter on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 11:38:04 PM EST

wins by that narrow margin, he'll call it a tie?

;)


She could close the ... (none / 0) (#25)
by Robot Porter on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 11:40:02 PM EST

gap.

It looks like the remaining votes are in Clinton favoring Jackson County.


And she just did ... (5.00 / 1) (#26)
by Robot Porter on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 11:43:26 PM EST

according to CNN:

Clinton 49.6%
Sanders 49.4%


Clinton now in the lead (5.00 / 2) (#27)
by CoralGables on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 11:43:28 PM EST

with 99% reporting


Guess we were posting ... (none / 0) (#29)
by Robot Porter on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 11:46:53 PM EST

at the same moment.


: A perfect 5 for 5 (4.00 / 1) (#31)
by CoralGables on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 12:02:59 AM EST

for Clinton would be a perfect night for Nate Silver who projected a 5 for 5.
He had Clinton winning by .8% in Missouri
You're right, nearly everything outstanding is from Jackson County where Clinton currently leads by 7.6%.

100% Reporting in Missouri (5.00 / 3) (#33)
by CoralGables on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 12:21:11 AM EST

The delegate math in Missouri won't change but Clinton puts a symbolic nail into the Sanders' campaign coffin with a razor thin Missouri win.

: Personally I am most happy about this (5.00 / 5) (#60)
by ruffian on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 01:28:25 PM EST

one because Chris Matthews was sure she was toast in MO.

Chuck Todd says he (5.00 / 2) (#36)
by MKS on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 12:49:58 AM EST

has seen data that shows that the GOP electorate is not expanding even though the GOP votes in the Primary are up. Rather, Todd says, GOP voters who usually vote in the General but skip the Primary are now voting in the Primary. They just moved up voting.

So, that GOP voting is up during the Primary means nothing for the General.

Yuugeee night for Hillary (5.00 / 1) (#43)
by pitachips on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 07:27:39 AM EST

Bernie needed to win at least Illinois, if for no reason other than it would have justified more media coverage of the Dem side of the race.

Jerlayn's comments are spot on but I think even if Sanders were more concerned with his legacy, that helping to unify the party is better for that legacy then potentially helping the GOP make this more of a race then it should be.

Only the media gets hung up on legacy (5.00 / 2) (#52)
by CoralGables on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 09:32:44 AM EST

No one else gives a damn.


: You get a BIG BIG 5 for that (5.00 / 1) (#62)
by Mr Natural on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 01:45:23 PM EST

Talk of "legacy" reeks, absolutely reeks of hubris.
Invoking hubris on behalf of another is what? I don't know if it even has a name.

Can we give Donald credit (5.00 / 2) (#78)
by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 07:01:42 PM EST

For doing one good thing? He put an end to debates. I hope the other front runner does the same.

In spite if the media hysteria (none / 0) (#4)
by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 09:26:07 PM EST

I don't think Kasich is a threat on any level. The base hates him. Donald will destroy him on immigration alone.

Wasn't his speech (5.00 / 3) (#5)
by Suisser1 on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 09:34:15 PM EST

just horrible. Maybe it was just coming on the heels of HRC - and I thought her harkening back to her concession in 2008 was brilliant. Brought me to tears, brought out my wallet, made me remember how much I wanted then and want now an HRC White House.


: It was (5.00 / 1) (#7)
by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 09:37:35 PM EST

The aw shucks thing will get old fast.

Did Bernie Sanders speak tonight? (none / 0) (#11)
by Cashmere on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 10:10:04 PM EST

Did Bernie Sanders speak tonight? I've been half-heartedly watching all night, but I don't recall a Bernie speech.

I don't think Sanders has spoken (none / 0) (#12)
by caseyOR on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 10:15:48 PM EST

yet tonight. He might be waiting for results from Illinois and Missouri. At least one win tonight would make for a more upbeat speech.


: He spoke ... (none / 0) (#19)
by Robot Porter on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 11:03:08 PM EST

they're re-running it now on C-Span. They didn't run it live, because he began while Kasich was speaking.
He's being incredibly dull. And going on and on.

I was just going to ask (none / 0) (#13)
by Suisser1 on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 10:17:00 PM EST

the same. If he's planning to speak, I'll stay up. If not, I'll let DST win and turn in.


The cable TV babblethons ... (none / 0) (#18)
by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 10:35:03 PM EST

... didn't bother to cover it -- but my oh my, how they sure do loves them some John Kasich.


Ironically, (none / 0) (#28)
by lilburro on Tue Mar 15, 2016 at 11:46:22 PM EST

they supposedly hate each other.

: whoops (none / 0) (#35)
by lilburro on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 12:37:27 AM EST

that was about HRC and Rahm

Hey Hey, Ho Ho, Bernie has got to go! Hey Hey, Ho (none / 0) (#34)
by AX10 on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 12:36:18 AM EST

Seriously, Hillary will work to bring Bernie's fans into the fold.

Bernie says he will win (none / 0) (#39)
by sallywally on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 01:51:52 AM EST

the nomination with the coming states. He will not back off.

Bernie simply sounds silly (5.00 / 2) (#66)
by smott on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 02:50:36 PM EST

If he is still talking about winning, after outspending Clinton and getting his azz handed to him in every big state.

He'd do much better to craft a message about soldiering on to pull the party more towards the ideals that really do resonate with almost everyone - like income inequality, better health care, more bank regulation, less war, Fair trade, not Free trade and so on.

Which will help Clinton also, because Trump will come at her from the left on trade and on Iraq.


None of the networks covered (none / 0) (#40)
by MKS on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 02:00:16 AM EST

his speech on Tuesday night. He is finished. No one will pay much attention to him now.

Even Big Orange will push his supporters away from negative attacks on Hillary as the new Markos rules come into play now.


I understand (none / 0) (#44)
by Ga6thDem on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 08:08:03 AM EST

most of them have moved onto Reddit anyway.


: even on reddit (none / 0) (#51)
by CST on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 09:23:47 AM EST

they seemed to acknowledge that the jig was up.

Who Understands the Missouri Results? (none / 0) (#54)
by RickyJim on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 10:36:11 AM EST

It is clear that both the Democratic and Republican races there ended as popular vote ties. Now how and when will the delegates be apportioned?

There are no ... (none / 0) (#56)
by Robot Porter on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 10:41:19 AM EST

ties in politics.

On the Dem side it doesn't matter much. Delegate apportionment will be about the same.

More important on the GOP side. Because the winner gets 12 delegates just for winning.


Not knowing where to place my question, (none / 0) (#64)
by christinep on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 02:36:12 PM EST

I'll just ask it here, Robot Porter, since you seem to have paid close attention to the details of procedures & reports last evening. I don't mean to be too picky--and it really is more about old school style & expectations--but, did Senator Sanders voice congratulations to HRC on her victories yesterday?


: Robot Porter may have seen (5.00 / 1) (#68)
by Towanda on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 05:00:28 PM EST

something that I did not see, but I am reading that Sanders finally sent such a message this morning.
Yesterday, though, in his non-concession speech, which went on (and on and on and on) for more than an hour, he never mentioned Clinton. Graceless.

Does Clinton need a new campaign song? (none / 0) (#55)
by Robot Porter on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 10:39:04 AM EST

Rachel Platten's "Fight Song" seems to have become her "unofficial" campaign song.

It's a catchy tune. And the lyrics fit her.

But I'm wondering if she needs something different for the general. Perhaps something that would appeal more to men.

It may not matter much. Trump will undoubtedly be using the Horst Wessel song. And anything will sound good next to that.

;)

But, seriously, do you think she needs a new song?

: Interesting question (none / 0) (#67)
by NJDem on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 03:59:34 PM EST

I know even I'm getting a little tired of the song, though like you said it's catchy and fits her.
But yeah--why not start anew with a focus on the general and a new message/song. Too bad I can't think of any suggestions--was a late night...

This whole election is beginning (none / 0) (#57)
by Chuck0 on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 10:58:47 AM EST

to make me physically ill. The idea that my choices for President of the United States are going to be either Donald Trump / Ted Cruz or Hillary Clinton is just sickening. I don't know whether I should slit my wrists or just cry.

: Forget it, Jake. (5.00 / 2) (#58)
by jondee on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 01:20:01 PM EST

It's Chinatown.

NYT's Halberman: (none / 0) (#69)
by oculus on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 05:47:30 PM EST

reports that Trump says there will be "riots" if he is denied the nomination b/c he's short some delegates but has lots more than the next guy.

Quite the scoop for Maggie (none / 0) (#70)
by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 06:04:45 PM EST

He said it on CNN


The video (none / 0) (#73)
by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 06:23:46 PM EST

Following primary victories in Florida, North Carolina and Illinois on Tuesday, Donald Trump appeared on CNN this morning to explain what his plan is to get 1,237 delegates, and if not, how would he win at the convention. Trump also tells CNN's Chris Cuomo what he thinks would happen if he is close to clinching the nomination but loses at the convention.
"I think we'll win before getting to the convention, but I can tell you, if we didn't and if we're 20 votes short or if we're, you know, 100 short and we're at 1,100 and somebody else is at 500 or 400, because we're way ahead of everybody. I don't think you can say that we don't get it automatically. I think you'd have riots. I think you'd have riots. You know, I'm representing a tremendous -- many, many millions of people, in many cases first time voters," Trump said Wednesday morning.

You got me. Link impaired + (none / 0) (#74)
by oculus on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 06:25:51 PM EST

don't watch TV. Dark ages.


Funny (none / 0) (#75)
by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 06:28:43 PM EST

I loath Haberman. I'm curious if she reported this like it was some kind of a scoop.


She attributed the info (none / 0) (#76)
by oculus on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 06:34:37 PM EST

to CNN interview of Trump.


Yeah I just found it (5.00 / 1) (#77)
by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 06:43:21 PM EST

In that same post she rather dryly and matter factly says this -

Meanwhile, in an interview on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" program, Mr. Trump described himself as the person he listens to most on foreign policy.
"I'm speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I've said a lot of things," Mr. Trump said

I saw this. It has a very different effect when you actually hear it. You just sort of sit there for a second trying to get your brain around the fact that the likely nominee of one of our two major parties just said this on TV.


: Jimmy Kimmel used that as part (5.00 / 1) (#81)
by nycstray on Thu Mar 17, 2016 at 03:41:03 AM EST

Of his opening tonight. It really smacks home how crazy he sounds. If I had 't known he said it, I would have thought it was one of JK's pranks. It's funny until you realize it's true :/

Robert Costa (none / 0) (#71)
by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 06:10:31 PM EST

Just said a bunch of republican money men are talking about running a third party conservative candidate. They even have a candidate.

Ben Sasse.

Could we be that lucky?

: I just looked (googled) (none / 0) (#72)
by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 06:17:33 PM EST

this was in the NYTimes on March 2nd
So I backed up the DVR. What he said was "I got some fresh reporting in the last few minutes". H e said there is a meeting tomorrow (8:30am) to get serious about this.
Very interesting

NYTimes (none / 0) (#79)
by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 07:16:27 PM EST

Rubio's Exit Leaves Trump With
an Open Path to 1,237 Delegates
Donald J. Trump's series of victories on Tuesday extended his delegate lead and forced Senator Marco Rubio of Florida out of the presidential race. Mr. Trump's path to winning enough delegates to secure the Republican nomination is not assured, but he is in a strong position.
Here are some ways the Republican nominating contest could unfold. Try adjusting the sliders to see how the outcomes change. Each line in the chart represents one possible outcome

: Now the guessing (none / 0) (#80)
by Ga6thDem on Wed Mar 16, 2016 at 08:18:12 PM EST

is going to be on how long Kasich is going to be hanging around since Rubio has gone.