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Friday Night Open Thread: Happy Passover

It's just about sundown here, which marks the beginning of Passover. Best wishes to all observing.

The Obamas once again celebrated Passover with a White House seder. . (Here's an article explaining why.) The Washington Post says Passover is currently "having a moment". [More...]

One of the places holding a seder this year is the All Dulles Area Muslim Society in Sterling, Va.

The cheerful Virginians gathered around their Passover seder table, laden with matzah and charoset, had just said the second blessing over the grape juice when the loudspeaker crackled to life.

“Allahu akbar! Allahu akbar!” the call to prayer interrupted their seder. And the Passover participants rose from their seats, for a Muslim worship interlude in their Jewish service.

I knew that "Allahu akbar" means "G-d is great" because it's what ISIS fighters shout in videos as they bomb things. I'm glad to learn they haven't totally co-opted the phrase.

Marijuana has now been declared by an orthodox Rabbi to be kosher for Passover. Things were different in 2007.

One person who made a fool of himself this Passover was John Kasich (who went to a Hasidic Matzoh bakery in Brooklyn and talked about "Jesus' blood" and called it "The Passover.") Video here.

“The great link between the blood that was put above the lampposts” – er, you mean doorposts, governor — “the blood of the lamb, because Jesus Christ is known as the lamb of G-d. It’s his blood, we believe …”

Then he lectured Yeshiva students about Joseph. (video here.)

“You know who I like?” Kasich finally said. “Joseph. You guys like Joseph? You study Joseph? What do you think about Joseph? Did you hear the most important thing Joseph said to his brothers?”

Silence.

He then tells a story about Joseph being thrown in a ditch and his brothers, who hated him, saved him, and then sold him into slavery, "and that's how the Jews got to Egypt."

There's more. He shook his box of matzohs.

Kasich also made the cardinal error of shaking his box of shmura matzah as he spoke to punctuate his remarks – a cringe-worthy move for Jewish shmura matzah consumers. If the high-priced, delicate matzahs inside are broken, they become unsuitable for ritual use.

The Washington Post has some great photos and recipes of passover foods. And another on Three different matzoh ball soups it loves. But no matzoh brei? I like it with cinnamon, but it's also good with sour cream and applesauce. Here's Bon Appetit's Ultimate Guide to Passover.

Chag Sameach and #Good Pesach everyone.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Saturday Night Live tonight will (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by caseyOR on Sat Apr 23, 2016 at 06:10:21 PM EST
    be devoted to Prince. Should be a good show.

    Watching (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by TrevorBolder on Sat Apr 23, 2016 at 06:21:29 PM EST
    Purple Rain

    Remember seeing it in the movie theaters with an old girlfriend.

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    Segued (none / 0) (#17)
    by TrevorBolder on Sat Apr 23, 2016 at 08:58:33 PM EST
    Into a 2011 BBC Prince special (Streaming is great)

    Didn't know Prince was super shy, suffered stage fright on his appearance on Dick Clark American Bandstand (Showed the clip)

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    Use to work in the (none / 0) (#26)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Apr 24, 2016 at 02:23:14 PM EST
    National Video building on 42nd street for a post company.  Many celebrities passed thru while I worked three.  McCartney, Mick Jagger, etc.
    One day my co worker came in to work, we worked 4-12, and he said he got in the elevator with Prince.  He said Prince turned his face into the back corner and stayed that way facing the corner for the whole ride.

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    Valar morghulis (5.00 / 3) (#25)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Apr 24, 2016 at 02:04:49 PM EST
    Winter is coming

    And there is no El Niño in Westeros.

    The blurb says we find out what happens to Jon Snow.  And the title of the episode is The Red Woman.

    I would call that a tease.

    Have you watched yet? (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by ruffian on Tue Apr 26, 2016 at 05:43:45 AM EST
    Quite a reveal at the end! Not having read the books, I did not see that coming at all!

    I am hoping that Jon Snow's death and what I hope is some kind of return is just an elaborate plot to get him away from that stupid brotherhood at the wall. I hope Davos kicks their collective butts.

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    Also - can I get a ticket for the (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by ruffian on Tue Apr 26, 2016 at 05:53:19 AM EST
    Varys and Tyrion walking tour of Mermen? That would be a fun day!

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    *Mereen (none / 0) (#35)
    by ruffian on Tue Apr 26, 2016 at 05:54:15 AM EST
    dang autocorrect - need to turn it off for discussing GoT!

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    Curious if you (none / 0) (#38)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Apr 26, 2016 at 09:07:31 AM EST
    Liked Orphan Black.  I have not seen the new season yet.  Been busy.

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    Without spoilers (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Apr 26, 2016 at 08:59:25 AM EST
    Since it's all speculation I think you are dead on.  There is speculation based on sightings at shooting sites that Jon Snow does return and that he gets away from the Watch.

    It's also speculated we learn his parentage this season.  Which could relate to his return.  Supposedly there is a pyre (seen with telephoto lens) but it's thought that his expected parentage (half Targarian) means he doesn't burn.   But his obligation to the Watch has been met since it was until his death.

    I liked the opener.  It picked up all the threads from last season very well.  I like the new dynamics with a free and vengeful Sansa.  Free and vengful Sand Snakes.   Vengeful Ayra.  Looks like a lot of sisters doin it for themselves this season.

    The Mother of Dragons story line could be good to.

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    Oh (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Apr 26, 2016 at 09:01:56 AM EST
    Love the real Red Woman. What amazing casting.  How would you have like to cast that role.  "Um, not saggy enough.  Next"

    But seriously, perfect.  That ole lady just looked powerful.

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    Semi-free and vengeful Jaime and Cersei! (none / 0) (#42)
    by ruffian on Tue Apr 26, 2016 at 03:03:41 PM EST
    It is gonna get good.

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    Oh (none / 0) (#46)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Apr 26, 2016 at 04:54:07 PM EST
    Lady Olenna goes to Dorne this season.   Lady Olenna and the Sand Snakes, there an interesting lunch.

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    having read the books ages ago (none / 0) (#39)
    by CST on Tue Apr 26, 2016 at 09:15:04 AM EST
    I didn't see that coming either!

    Made me wonder about the necklace though.  Think it's capable of bringing someone back from the dead?

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    They have that ability (none / 0) (#40)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Apr 26, 2016 at 09:20:55 AM EST
    We have seen it.  Remember the thing with the Brothers Without Banners and the guy who had been brought back 5 or 6 times?  That was a red priest who did that.

    I've read we see the Red Woman might not be all bad this season.   So she must do something incredible because after burning children alive.........

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    Yeah, she has dug herself a pretty deep hole (none / 0) (#41)
    by ruffian on Tue Apr 26, 2016 at 03:02:32 PM EST
    to climb out of.

    Do you think the old lady face was the young actress's though? I was wondering how much was really her. You would know best!

    It was marvelously well done. I loved it was a slow reveal.

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    I don't thnk it was the same person (none / 0) (#43)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Apr 26, 2016 at 03:22:53 PM EST
    Knock knees and skinny calves.

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    Also (none / 0) (#44)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Apr 26, 2016 at 03:27:22 PM EST
    I keep reading Lady Stoneheart (resurrected Katlin Stark) makes an appearance this season.

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    You made me want to know (none / 0) (#45)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Apr 26, 2016 at 03:41:46 PM EST
    So was that 39-year-old Dutch actress Carice van Houten playing the aged Melisandre in the final moments of Sunday's Game of Thrones? As director Jeremy Podeswa has revealed, it was and it wasn't. Much like they did with Cersei during the Walk of Shame last season, the Game of Thrones special-effects teams laid Van Houten's face over a body double. Van Houten wore "prosthetic makeup for her face and hair"--that's why the eyes matched--but the body was someone else entirely.

    Podeswa doesn't name (or age) the body double in question, but he did tell Entertainment Weekly, "I think the performance of both actresses helps making her look ageless. There was a question of whether we should add more effects to make [the body double] look older, but I think anything we could have done would have made them look less real. When doing a fantasy show--or a show with fantasy elements--the more you can anchor an effect to reality the stronger the illusion is."

    There's a lingering debate over Melisandre's real age (100? 400?) and Podeswa says Melisandre's extended lifespan made the effect uniquely challenging. "The idea is there's an indefinite indeterminate quality that she could be ancient," Podeswa says. "We were limited by choosing to use a real person rather than a complete CG creation. Because what does a 400-year-old person look like? We don't know. So if you try to create that, then you're creating something that looks beyond our known reality. Here you feel like she's very old without putting a number on it."

    LINK

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    Thanks, it seems they accomplished (none / 0) (#47)
    by ruffian on Tue Apr 26, 2016 at 09:13:14 PM EST
    exactly what they wanted. Her eyes somehow looked like her even though you could barely see them. Such a quiet, sad face. Really haunting.

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    Just so you don't slit your wrists (none / 0) (#1)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Apr 22, 2016 at 09:21:40 PM EST
    over the Earth Day predictions that will flow tomorrow....

    read this.

    Excuse me, Jim, but would this be ... (none / 0) (#3)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Apr 22, 2016 at 11:23:18 PM EST
    ... the same American Enterprise Institute that:

    • Receives $3.12 million in annual support funding from ExxonMobil, $2 million from Donors Trust, and another $1.5 million from Koch Industries;

    • Offered $10,000 each to scientists and economists in Britain, the United States and elsewhere back in 2007 "to undermine a major climate change report from the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)" -- AEI's quote, not mine -- by writing "articles that emphasise the shortcomings" of the IPCC report, which "is widely regarded as the most comprehensive review yet of climate change science";

    • Rented office space to the Project for the New American Century, one of the leading voices that pushed the Bush administration's plan for regime change through war in Iraq;

    • Lists Paul Wolfowitz, one of the primary architects of that disastrous Iraq War policy, as one of its senior fellows;

    • Opposes the financial system regulations created under the Dodd-Frank Act, because it "creates uncertainty and removes the incentive for financial institutions to take risk"; and

    • Received $550,000 in 2009 from the Taipei Economic and Cultural Representative Office (TECRO), which functions as the equivalent of Taiwan's embassy in Washington, while the Institute was producing policy papers and articles which urged direct US military aid to Taipei?

    Why, yes, I do believe it is indeed the very same AEI -- which, by the way, is a wholly appropriate acronym for a right-wing think tank whose members and employees don't know a$$es from elbows.

    But, hey, thanks for playing.

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    Jim, how about opining on (none / 0) (#4)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Apr 23, 2016 at 04:31:40 AM EST
    something this blogs covers, or art,food, cooking music, tv, sports, travel, something we all do and like to discuss, rather than a topic that no none here is particularly interested in writing about so it's like a thread killer when you bring it up. im, we've heard enough on your climate change beliefs. I realize it's an open thread, but you are just inviting insults and you've brought the topic up on dozens of threads. Please give it a rest or at least find another site to post your views on the topic. In 10 years, I don't think I've written a single post on the topic. This is a blog about crime and politics. Not the environment or climate change.maybe time to co,

    I am interested in hearing which Reublican in

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    It's your blog (none / 0) (#7)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Apr 23, 2016 at 10:20:51 AM EST
    but the subject is highly political and we even have people trying to get the feds to go after companies with RICO charges. So that sure looks like politics and crime to me.

    If no one here actually doesn't want to discuss one of the burning issues of our time then I find that  puzzling because it seems to display a lack of intellectual curiosity and I have never noticed that about any of the regular commentators here.

    And I don't see how it is a thread killer when all the reader has do, as I do when I see the numerous comments by Capt Howdy re TV/movies that I have no interest in, just scan and skip to the next comment.

    I have always treasured TL for its variety so your comment saddens me.

    But, I always try to be a good guest and I'll follow your request.

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    AEI is a political think tank with (none / 0) (#9)
    by ExPatObserver on Sat Apr 23, 2016 at 11:13:33 AM EST
    no authority or expertise on climate matters. The fact you never link to real climate science articles is why you are ignored.

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    Now that (none / 0) (#12)
    by TrevorBolder on Sat Apr 23, 2016 at 04:44:42 PM EST
    Is different , and worthwhile.
    The use of State AG offices to go on a fishing expedition for donors lists to a private foundation.
    That is chilling

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    ... such as the American Enterprise Institute (which is of the 501c(3) tax-exempt variety) are required to report their sources of income and their expenses -- including senior management compensation -- in their annual 990 filings, which are then made available for public inspection. Per the American Institute of Philanthropy, it had $64,011,505 in revenues and against expenses of $28,575,599 for FY 2014, and enjoys an A- rating as a charitable institution. All that is public information.

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    Jerlyn (none / 0) (#16)
    by ragebot on Sat Apr 23, 2016 at 08:16:23 PM EST
    It seems like the last sentence of your post was cut off, to wit:

    "I am interested in hearing which Reublican in"

    I guess you are interested in hearing which Republican did something, but I am not sure what.

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    Happy Passover! (none / 0) (#2)
    by ExPatObserver on Fri Apr 22, 2016 at 10:07:08 PM EST
    I missed by 1 week the chances to witness Passover in Israel.

    It appears that marijuana may soon (none / 0) (#5)
    by Mr Natural on Sat Apr 23, 2016 at 06:44:07 AM EST
    be Kosher in Mexico as well.

    What's that mean?  It means that Mexico is building its own wall - to block further incursion by at least one idiotic American policy.

    as i understand the article (none / 0) (#6)
    by linea on Sat Apr 23, 2016 at 09:55:10 AM EST
    seems more like a california-style decriminalization for users rather than CO / WA style legalization.  i dont understand why the other US states havent legalized and taxed yet.  i dont see the down-side.  the people who use pot get taxed; the people who dont use pot dont start using pot from what i see.

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    obama... (none / 0) (#8)
    by linea on Sat Apr 23, 2016 at 10:24:43 AM EST
    why would he would mimic a seder with his family rather than accept an invitation to attend an actual seder as a guest?

    Random Coulter question (none / 0) (#10)
    by ExPatObserver on Sat Apr 23, 2016 at 12:26:38 PM EST
    Does Ann Coulter have one black cocktail dress which she wears to every appearance, or a dozen identical ones?

    I prefer not to discuss (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Apr 23, 2016 at 02:56:20 PM EST
    her or mention her name on this site. Thank you.

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    Now that's a concrete step to (5.00 / 2) (#18)
    by ExPatObserver on Sat Apr 23, 2016 at 08:59:03 PM EST
    improve the "climate"

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    Interesting (none / 0) (#13)
    by TrevorBolder on Sat Apr 23, 2016 at 05:03:32 PM EST
    Where Apple and the government have been at odds,

    Not apparently so with Google.

    http://tinyurl.com/hwpbxnh

    a

    nnounced his support last week for a Federal Communications Commission plan to open the market for cable set-top boxes -- a big win for consumers, but also for Google -- the cable and telecommunications giants who used to have a near-stranglehold on tech policy were furious. AT&T chief lobbyist Jim Cicconi lashed out at what he called White House intervention on behalf of "the Google proposal."

    Bu

    t consider that over in the European Union, Google is now facing two major antitrust charges for abusing its dominance in mobile operating systems and search. By contrast, in the U.S., a strong case to sanction Google was quashed by a presidentially appointed commission.


    And I thought (none / 0) (#20)
    by MKS on Sat Apr 23, 2016 at 10:28:23 PM EST
    Passover and Easter were on the same weekend.  

    Passover is my favorite religious holiday.  And I am not Jewish.  It  is so festive and happy.  Christian holidays, my tradition, are so very, very serious.

    And I thought (none / 0) (#21)
    by MKS on Sat Apr 23, 2016 at 10:28:35 PM EST
    Passover and Easter were on the same weekend.  

    Passover is my favorite religious holiday.  And I am not Jewish.  It  is so festive and happy.  Christian holidays, my tradition, are so very, very serious.

    Apparently (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by jbindc on Sun Apr 24, 2016 at 06:30:15 AM EST
    You have never been to Easter or Christmas mass.Very joyous occassions, with lots of music and singing.

    And I can't speak for anyone else's family, but in mine, the holidays always means lots of food, lots of drink, LOTS of talking, laughing, hugging, and kissing.  And if the festivities are at a certain cousin's house, there is sure to be Rock Band being played and maybe a little Dance, Dance Revolution thrown in too. (But that's usually when "the grownups" are ready to leave).  😁

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    Sure, the parties (none / 0) (#23)
    by MKS on Sun Apr 24, 2016 at 08:30:19 AM EST
    and festivities after the religious ceremonies can be raucous affairs.

    But the ceremonies themselves are imo very serious.   The joyous chorus and uplifting music are very important.  Kids be quiet!

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    lunar cycle (none / 0) (#29)
    by linea on Sun Apr 24, 2016 at 06:00:16 PM EST
    passover (like all jish festivals) are on the lunar calendar.  to me, it always felt like a child's holiday.

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    Newsweek: Nation isn't ready for Bernie (none / 0) (#24)
    by Mr Natural on Sun Apr 24, 2016 at 11:37:54 AM EST
    "Nation Isn't Ready for What Bernie Sanders Supports"

    Although Clinton's big win earlier this week in New York removed all doubt about her eventual nomination, she has hardly been cruising. Moreover, my supposition that Clinton would be spending the remainder of the primary season playing nice with Sanders and his supporters has turned out to be spectacularly wrong.


    Not that it would have changed (none / 0) (#27)
    by NYShooter on Sun Apr 24, 2016 at 02:53:51 PM EST
    the outcome in N.Y. but what the he!l is going on with the vote counting procedures in so many states?

    With something as sacrosanct as counting votes in a bi-partisan and accurate manner, the countless claims of voter suppression is a national disgrace.

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    i agree!! (none / 0) (#28)
    by linea on Sun Apr 24, 2016 at 05:50:53 PM EST
    i thought we weren't italy.  my mistake.
    ps. i saw what you did there (!l).  lol

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    Uh Oh (none / 0) (#30)
    by TrevorBolder on Sun Apr 24, 2016 at 07:59:42 PM EST
    n Friday, the New York Daily News broke the news that "The head investigator for the state Board of Elections probed the 2014 fundraising efforts by (New York City) Mayor de Blasio and his team on behalf of the (New York State) Senate Democrats and found enough `willful and flagrant' violations to warrant a criminal referral to the Manhattan DA's office."

    Activists call for de Blasio to step down

    Two community activists called on Mayor de Blasio to step down Sunday, promising more protesters in the coming weeks at City Hall -- which has become a "modern day Tammany Hall."

    "If he cares about this city the way he says he does, he needs to step down immediately and save us the continued national embarrassment," said Tony Herbert, a former member of Al Sharpton's National Action Network. "There are a lot of levels to this corruption"

    Herbert and John Rodriguez, who heads a community-police relations group in Brooklyn, stood outside City Hall Park on Sunday to slam de Blasio for presiding over several scandals that have rocked the city's political firmament

    .

    I've really got to question the decision by local SoCal officials to award a $73,950 contract to a South Pasadena marketing firm in an effort to rename and rebrand a busy and well-used public facility, Bob Hope Airport, that has already undergone no less than four formal name changes just in my own lifetime. That's because millions of Angelenos and business travelers who use the airport have stubbornly persisted for decades in calling it by its longstanding popular though entirely unofficial name -- Burbank Airport.

    To no one's real surprise, after intense study and numerous public surveys that have seen local residents reject proposed monikers such as the Burbank Hollywood Airport, Los Angeles Burbank Airport and Burbank Los Angeles Airport, this marketing firm has brilliantly come up with the name of -- cue drum roll, please -- "Hollywood Burbank Airport."

    Ironically, this was actually its formal name for eleven years (1967-78) until the cities of Burbank, Glendale and Pasadena bought the airfield from the Lockheed Corp. in 1978 and rechristened it as "Burbank Glendale Pasadena Airport," which of course just rolls off the tip of one's tongue.

    But you know what? Despite spending all this money on a marketing campaign for an airport that's already operating at near-peak capacity, I'll offer better than even odds that everyone will continue to call it "Burbank Airport."

    My head hurts.

    Ha! That always cracked me up when I lived out (none / 0) (#33)
    by ruffian on Tue Apr 26, 2016 at 05:47:48 AM EST
    there. You are right, everyone always has and will continue to call it 'Burbank'. Most people I know still also call John Wayne Airport just 'Orange County'. Do Long Beach and Ontario airports have fancy names now too?

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