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Sanders Campaign Lays Off Hundreds of Workers

Is the Sanders' campaign taking its final breaths? The Sanders campaign has laid off hundreds of workers. Sanders today insisted he's still in the race.

Sanders told supporters at a rally at Purdue University in Indiana Wednesday that he was "in this campaign to win and become the Democratic nominee," and said, "If we do not win, we intend to win every delegate that we can so that when we go to Philadelphia in July we're going to have the votes to put together the strongest progressive agenda that any political party has ever seen."

Interestingly, Politico, which first reported the story, doesn't use his exact words and conveys a different impression to the reader, adding the word "primarily." [More...]

Sanders insisted to a crowd in Indiana on Wednesday that he is still in the race to win it, but his focus now is primarily on influencing the Democratic platform if Clinton is the nominee.

According to Politico:

Staffers who were working in states that voted Tuesday were told by campaign manager Jeff Weaver to look elsewhere for work rather than continue on to the next voting states, according to people close to the campaign. The news comes as Sanders looks to spend more time in California, which is set to vote in June.

While Sanders appears set for a handful of wins in May, his path to the nomination appears all but closed off after he lost Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, and Connecticut on Tuesday night.

The math is a huge problem for Sanders. According to Fox News:

As of early Wednesday, Clinton had 2,141 delegates to Sanders’ 1,321; it takes 2,383 to win. The total includes so-called “superdelegates” who are not bound to primary results.

Fox News also interviewed Sanders' campaign communications director Michael Briggs:

[A]s has been visible in the Republican race, laying off staff is often one of the earliest signs of a campaign winding down as it runs out of money. Even though Sanders has outraised Clinton, the Sanders campaign has also outspent Clinton’s.

Briggs confirmed to Fox News that "hundreds" of field staff from the five states in Tuesday's primaries were told they are being let go. Briggs maintained that the changes are part of "right-sizing" the campaign after the elections.

Politico says Briggs confirmed it's not just workers in the 5 states being let go -- workers have been "trickling out" of the Burlington, Vermont headquarters since March.

The campaign has let field staffers go before — including early in March, after his sweeping losses on Super Tuesday — and aides have been trickling out of the organization in recent weeks. But Wednesday’s move signifies a bigger move to reshape the size of the campaign operation.

The losses are primarily in the five states that voted on Tuesday, but other staff have also recently left the campaign, including some based in the Burlington, Vermont, headquarters. Briggs said field staff from other states may leave the campaign as well.

The real problem may be money -- notwithstanding Sanders' large war chest. Like Jeb Bush, he may have spent too much too fast. Politico writes:

While Sanders has raised large amounts of money online, and started April with $17 million according to his most recent Federal Election Commission report, he has also spent at a very high rate, including $46 million in March. It is unclear how much money his campaign currently has on hand.

So is Sanders in or out? I think he's giving lip service to still being in the race for the nomination because he wants to keep the donations coming. Who's going to donate to him just so he can have a say in the Democratic Party platform?

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    Not me -- Certainly I am NOT donating to Bernie... (5.00 / 3) (#3)
    by Cashmere on Wed Apr 27, 2016 at 05:34:15 PM EST
    Here in Portland (Or), where he is a cinch to win, I have already received two large glossy mailers from Bernie.  One on climate change and the other related to Wall Street.  Not that I am against his message, but it seems he may be preaching to the choir here in PDX and wasting money (and paper... Mr. environment indeed!).

    I guess money doesn't buy elections after all. (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Apr 27, 2016 at 05:35:38 PM EST
    Having repeatedly outspent the Clinton campaign voluminously despite their public claims to the contrary, I'm so glad the Sanders campaign cleared this matter up for us. </snark>

    ;-D

    So will the DNC... (none / 0) (#6)
    by kdog on Wed Apr 27, 2016 at 06:14:14 PM EST
    give all the shady donors their money back?

    Didn't think so.

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    The irony (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Apr 27, 2016 at 07:20:22 PM EST
    is the Bernie is the one with the "shady donor" problem. The FEC has come after him three times already about problems.

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    cmon (none / 0) (#23)
    by Steve13209 on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 09:29:32 AM EST
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/03/30/hillary-clinton-ally-hits-bernie-s anders-fec-complaints/82426790/

    Perhaps I can put in a complaint to the FEC about Clinton and then I can say, The FEC has received complaints about the Clinton campaign.

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    The (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 10:01:24 AM EST
    FEC went after Bernie having nothing to do with the Clinton campaign here.

    Three times they have written Sanders' campaign about problems with his reports that he has filed with them. He seems to have shoddy software or inept people on his campaign because no one should have been able to donate 5K at one pop.

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    Seriously? (none / 0) (#33)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 10:03:58 AM EST
    You are seriously going to make a big deal of a 5k donation and some book keeping snafu?

    You are aware of the "limitations" of SuperPacs?

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    To be (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 10:07:30 AM EST
    honest I really don't care. It wasn't just one but I'm really just correcting the misconception that Hillary Clinton caused all of Bernie's problems not he himself.

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    Sorry (none / 0) (#36)
    by Steve13209 on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 10:06:12 AM EST
    but I can't seem to let myself read your innuendos and "I read that" comments without commenting. Look back at your last 20 comments and see how many are based on nothing but what you "think" and "heard". I always try to support my positions, especially if they are attacks on people or their policy positions.

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    And (none / 0) (#38)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 10:08:17 AM EST
    I put up a link for you to read.

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    Somehow, I detect a difference (5.00 / 2) (#50)
    by Towanda on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 12:01:03 PM EST
    between the FEC issuing complaints and receiving them.  

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    The shadiest donations... (none / 0) (#27)
    by kdog on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 09:34:20 AM EST
    are the "legal" ones with alotta zeroes.  

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    Please, kdog, the rich deserve their zeroes (none / 0) (#49)
    by Mr Natural on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 11:48:23 AM EST
    That's why they pay so well for their services.

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    California (none / 0) (#1)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Apr 27, 2016 at 05:16:26 PM EST
    is not until June 7th. I don't see how he stays in that long. He has spent a ton of money for sure.

    I would think (none / 0) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Apr 27, 2016 at 05:31:13 PM EST
    He got rid of those people so he can afford to stay in to the end.

    He seems determined to make sure the voters on June 7 "have a voice"

    Whatever

    Mr. environment indeed! (none / 0) (#5)
    by NYShooter on Wed Apr 27, 2016 at 06:12:50 PM EST
    INDEED!!!....indeed.

    two LARGE glossy mailers, no less.

    My Lord, does the man have no bounds of decency?

    Babies are dying in the Congo, forced to wipe their little tushies on the ground, and all the while crying, "Mommy, mommy, its so unfair, I have to wipe my bum with dirt, while that big hypocrite-man in America is wasting sheets of GLOSSY paper, and, for no good reason.

    Shameless, I tell you, ab-so-lute-ly shameless!

    I don't know, Cashmere, how ever did you make it through the day after getting such a shock to your nervous system?

    All I can say is, "Cashmere, you're a better person than I am...... so much, much better."

    Apologies NYShooter (5.00 / 2) (#7)
    by Cashmere on Wed Apr 27, 2016 at 06:30:29 PM EST
    Certainly was not trying to offend you or anyone else here.  I just thought it was an odd choice for campaign $$ to be spent, and needless here in Portland, where he will win overwhelmingly.  I suppose I do dislike all the junk mail I get and think mass mailers are a waste.  I would not like them from any candidate and I do see it as an environmental issue.  Again, sorry to offend.

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    fwiw, I've thrown HRC (5.00 / 2) (#10)
    by Suisser1 on Wed Apr 27, 2016 at 08:26:21 PM EST
    a few hundred in the last months and get every communication only  via email. They know where I am, I contributed in 2008 but I've maybe received one slim envelope. If she started sending me mailings I'd be pissed at the waste and would grouse about it.

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    Aw, you're so sweet, Cashmere. (none / 0) (#8)
    by NYShooter on Wed Apr 27, 2016 at 07:10:24 PM EST
    I'm sorry if my comment sounded offensive; but, those who have been around here a long time know that I often fall back into using some tongue-in-cheek, cryptic, attempted humor. (sometimes I'm the only one who "gets it." lol)

    The issues facing us are serious enough that its easy to fall into all sorts of depressive funk.

    So, It's just my way of saying, "lighten up, we'll get through whatever comes down the pike, just like we've done many, many times before. Having survived the escape from my birthplace, Russia, and twin tours in Viet Nam as a U.S. Marine, Lance Corporal, and, spending my formative years on the mean streets of the Bronx, "Fort Apache," the specter of the upcoming election is just a piece of cake.

    Enjoy.  

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    No worries.. Thanks! (none / 0) (#14)
    by Cashmere on Wed Apr 27, 2016 at 11:57:52 PM EST
    Now I know what to expect from your posts.  I love this board.  FYI, I'm not always sweet.. ask my husband and a few work colleagues!  I have my moments... :)

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    Apparently (none / 0) (#11)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Apr 27, 2016 at 09:19:47 PM EST
    Bernie's staffers that were laid off are extremely upset. They were expecting to have jobs until June and then they were all told via a conference call with Weaver.

    It's difficult to get exact numbers (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by CoralGables on Wed Apr 27, 2016 at 09:36:22 PM EST
    as to when the high number took place, but at one time the Sanders payroll staff numbered 1000 and is now down to 300.

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    Sanders (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by jbindc on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 05:13:23 AM EST
    Never even got on the call.  5 minutes with Weaver.

    CNN reporting it was 200.

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    I guess you do not have to be (5.00 / 2) (#19)
    by ruffian on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 08:26:14 AM EST
    "int he pocket of Wall Street" to cause financial hardship to your employees.

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    It's a temporary position... (none / 0) (#20)
    by kdog on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 08:57:41 AM EST
    sh*t I'd be thrilled the gig lasted till the end of April...last year I would have assumed a two-three month gig tops.  4 or 8 year ago, there'd be no temporary job at all for such a campaign.  Ask the people who sent Kucinich resumes in 2008;)

    I'm as bummed as the next Berner, but we need to put in perspective...this campaign has been a success beyond the wildest of dreams.

    I mean c'mon, a 76 year old grumpy Jewish socialist preaching 15 dollar min. wage and single payer and taxpayer funded public university tuition came this close? Part of me still can't believe it.  Things are looking up on the left side, while the right side crumbles.  

    Happy Days!

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    I agree with you (5.00 / 3) (#21)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 09:08:28 AM EST
    100%

    This entire campaign can still be all positive for the country and the progressive movement.  He not only redefined the discussion and moved the Overton Wndow back to a more reasonable place he proved it can be done without SuperPacs and corporate funding.  And right now it appears his "ransom" for supporting Hillary being rewriting the platform gives him a harmless escape hatch and a way to appear relevant to his thousands of followers who seem to desperately need him to appear relevant.   So it could still work out well for everyone.

    Let's all hope the next person who takes the lessons of this campaign to heart is electable.  They could change the country in very profound ways.

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    Maybe (5.00 / 4) (#39)
    by FlJoe on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 10:09:46 AM EST
    This entire campaign can still be all positive for the country and the progressive movement.
    but it is incumbent of Bernie to stop with the divisive attacks and demands. His asking for "ransom" does not strike me as an act of conciliation.

    Granted his insurrection has come a lot further than previous "revolutions" and it has surely opened many eyes, but unless his movement stays active and engaged within the Democratic party every cycle, nothing will ever change.

    It is extremely important that the energy Bernie has harnessed is judiciously applied as a constant "friendly" pressure on the Democrats rather than the "do or die" hostage scenario that he implies.  

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    I hope the (5.00 / 2) (#40)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 10:15:07 AM EST
    Terrible cost of the "ransom" talk continues.   It will help his followers think rewriting the platform is a big win.

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    Yes, I would have realized when I took (5.00 / 2) (#47)
    by ruffian on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 10:58:11 AM EST
    the job that it was temporary and would not be complaining because it ended at the end of April instead of June...still a good ride for a campaign gig.

    Not sure who it is complaining, but I remember I was chastised that the paid staff are not necessarily Bernie supporters.  

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    21yr old unbridled unbruised (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 03:15:07 PM EST
    And unblemished are complaining. And they should. This is their life is unfair teaching moment.

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    Hillary's team is hiring. (none / 0) (#58)
    by jbindc on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 08:59:41 PM EST
    As far as the layoffs (none / 0) (#22)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 09:12:53 AM EST
    Sort of seems like a micro chasm of what I expect to be the widespread reaction of his most devoted over the next few weeks.

    Namely,  wait.....you mean.....this ENDS?!?

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    Yeah man... (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by kdog on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 09:31:10 AM EST
    disappointment is natural and expected.  Lets hope his most ardent fans can see this brightside too, and remember we may have lost a primary but won something much more important than any single primary or election...we changed the motherf*ckin' conversation.  

    Another 2016 shocker...instead of the usual Democrats trying to act like Republicans to "win" (aka "third way"), the tables have turned...the assumed GOP nominee is in some respects bringing the right towards the middle.  Ok maybe just one or two respects, but still!

    Am I still in America or have I been transported to an alternate realm? ;)

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    I agree (none / 0) (#26)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 09:34:07 AM EST
    Again

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    It's nice... (none / 0) (#29)
    by kdog on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 09:38:15 AM EST
    when the resident TL degenerates agree once more! ;) The last few weeks/months have not been enjoyable in this regard.

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    I agree again! (none / 0) (#30)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 09:56:39 AM EST
    Maybe I just came back (none / 0) (#32)
    by Steve13209 on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 10:02:45 AM EST
    at a bad time. I have been shocked at the one-sidedness and nastiness here...but maybe it was just a phase?

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    You came back (none / 0) (#35)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 10:04:53 AM EST
    After most of the "nastiness" took their marbles and left.  

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    DISAGREE!!! (none / 0) (#41)
    by kdog on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 10:34:41 AM EST
    And we were doing so well! ;)

    Our fine friends who could not stand the civil war were far less than half of the nasty, imho.  Nowhere near most.

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    You may be right (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 10:48:15 AM EST
    There is definitely a couple...

    I was speaking for myself.   I actually tried restraint.  I did.  But at some point having your reading and reasoning skills questioned in every thread wears thin.

    I suspect it's about who's ox is being gored.

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    Agree ;) (none / 0) (#45)
    by kdog on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 10:51:09 AM EST
    One major component of silly season is a whole lotta talking past each other and hearing what you wanna hear...something this fine blog and commenting community is generally good at avoiding in between big elections.

    The nature of the beast I guess...

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    I hope it's just a phase Steve... (none / 0) (#42)
    by kdog on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 10:39:22 AM EST
    we've recently lost some of our best & brightest commenters who preferred Bernie, they could not take the nastiness & silly season bullsh&*t anymore.  And I can't blame them...I must be a glutton for punishment lol.  

    I try to remind myself not to take it so serious...it's just a f*ckin' election.  Survived Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, & Obama...and we'll survive the next one and the one after that.

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    I was never clear on what got so (5.00 / 2) (#48)
    by ruffian on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 10:59:44 AM EST
    bad....it seemed nicer than 2008 to me by along shot, but it did get more personal than I care for at times.

    Parent
    To be fair (5.00 / 3) (#57)
    by jbindc on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 08:59:15 PM EST
    Some that left actually were big contributors to and instigators of the nastiness.

    Parent
    Yes. it may seem if you walked in now that it is (5.00 / 1) (#60)
    by ruffian on Fri Apr 29, 2016 at 06:34:06 AM EST
    only Bernie and his supporters that are being criticized (and worse) in this comment section. The pro-Bernie people dished out at least as much as they received.

    Parent
    With the caveat that I am observing (none / 0) (#44)
    by ExPatObserver on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 10:51:01 AM EST
    from a great distance, this primary season seems rather mild, on the Dem side.

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    I agree... (none / 0) (#46)
    by kdog on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 10:54:17 AM EST
    which is why I don't really understand all this harping about Sanders "attacking" Clinton, and vice-versa in more Sanders friendly quarters...this is as tame as this dirty dirty business gets.  

    Credit due to both candidates for keeping it relatively clean throughout...it's not easy when the media and the more ardent supporters want to see a mudslinging dirty brawl.

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    Now, now, kdog (none / 0) (#72)
    by christinep on Fri Apr 29, 2016 at 09:13:24 PM EST
    We all know those sweeties had tongues as tart as any.  It is about taking it ... if you dish it out.  Enjoy Memphis.

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    You forgot Polish. (none / 0) (#52)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 02:07:22 PM EST
    All that idealism understanding it's temporary? (none / 0) (#54)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 03:11:55 PM EST
    Not likely

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    Is Cruzarina hiring? (none / 0) (#13)
    by ExPatObserver on Wed Apr 27, 2016 at 11:21:52 PM EST
    If all you want is a job....

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    LOL (none / 0) (#17)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 07:20:01 AM EST
    $27 average donations (none / 0) (#16)
    by NycNate on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 07:04:30 AM EST
    All the money donated to him was a waste. It would have been better spent on the people than a half cocked campaign. I'm amazed the people don't see that. I guess it was good while it lasted.

    More than (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 08:06:34 AM EST
    180 million.  

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    A waste to Clinton Supporters (5.00 / 2) (#28)
    by Steve13209 on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 09:38:04 AM EST
    If all you care about is winning, I guess it could be considered a waste. I contributed many times and I will kick in some more if he needs it.

    I am happy to have the issues I feel are important discussed at the national level. Had Sanders not run, there would have been no debates, no leftward shift of policy positions, etc.

    It was not a waste. It will usher in a new wing of the party that has had to suffer in silence since Reagan.

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    That (none / 0) (#34)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 10:04:26 AM EST
    poster is in no way a Clinton supporter. I think he or she is a Republican.

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    Ass U Me (none / 0) (#51)
    by Steve13209 on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 02:04:00 PM EST
    sorry, but the comment works without "Clinton Supporter"

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    Yes (5.00 / 1) (#53)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 02:25:25 PM EST
    it does but I just wanted to make sure you knew this poster is actually a Clinton hater and to not assign Clinton supporter to it.

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    I don't (none / 0) (#56)
    by FlJoe on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 04:35:20 PM EST
    think that we can tally up the rate of return on Bernie's run quite yet. If he sticks the landing the benefits will be immense with the entire Democratic party looking at the world in an entirely new and better way.

    If Sanders starts being a team player and helps the Democrats keep the WH and take the Senate he should retain considerable influence in that leftward moving chamber. Maybe that's not the golden ring  he and his supporters wanted, but by any measure a solid step on the road to the "political revolution"

    Now if only Bernie can sell that boring old incrementalism to his supporters and keep those voters energized now and in the future. If not his efforts will not payoff that much if at all (having the young disenfranchise themselves over disappointment is disastrous).

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    I am starting to (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by athyrio on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 09:43:46 PM EST
    question if Bernie is really a team player or maybe he shocked himself that he did so well and is hard put to give it up now...some people start to believe their own press releases...kinda sad cause at his age this is his last hurrah probably

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    Bernie's never been a team player (none / 0) (#61)
    by Steve13209 on Fri Apr 29, 2016 at 07:58:28 AM EST
    hence his Independent affiliation all these years. It comes down to whether he feels that throwing his support to Clinton will result in more good than harm for the issues he believes in. It isn't as easy a decision and Clinton supporters may think.

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    I get it (5.00 / 3) (#62)
    by FlJoe on Fri Apr 29, 2016 at 08:21:30 AM EST
    Bernie has never been a team player but yet he demands that the team follow him and if they don't it's his right to say screw them.

    BTW: anybody who thinks that supporting Hillary over any Republican is a "hard choice" is either a complete fool or is not a serious progressive in the first place.

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    And therein lies the problem (5.00 / 1) (#63)
    by jbindc on Fri Apr 29, 2016 at 08:27:00 AM EST
    Governance is ALL ABOUT team playing. While I would love for all my ideas and my views of the world to be the way our country is governed, it doesn't work that way - this isn't a dictatorship. Coalitions must be formed,  and yes, even though I hate how it ends up sometimes, compromises must made.

    Kevin Drum says it well.

    With the Democratic primary basically over, I want to step back a bit and explain the big-picture reason that I never warmed up to Bernie Sanders. It's not so much that he's all that far to my left, nor that he's been pretty skimpy on details about all the programs he proposes. That's hardly uncommon in presidential campaigns. Rather, it's the fact that I think he's basically running a con, and one with the potential to cause distinct damage to the progressive cause.

    I mean this as a provocation--but I also mean it. So if you're provoked, mission accomplished! Here's my argument.

    SNIP

    Like it or not, you don't build a revolution on top of an economy like this. Period. If you want to get anything done, you're going to have to do it the old-fashioned way: through the slow boring of hard wood.

    Why do I care about this? Because if you want to make a difference in this country, you need to be prepared for a very long, very frustrating slog. You have to buy off interest groups, compromise your ideals, and settle for half loaves--all the things that Bernie disdains as part of the corrupt mainstream establishment. In place of this he promises his followers we can get everything we want via a revolution that's never going to happen. And when that revolution inevitably fails, where do all his impressionable young followers go? Do they join up with the corrupt establishment and commit themselves to the slow boring of hard wood? Or do they give up?

    I don't know, but my fear is that some of them will do the latter. And that's a damn shame. They've been conned by a guy who should know better, the same way dieters get conned by late-night miracle diets. When it doesn't work, they throw in the towel.




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    Great article (none / 0) (#64)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Apr 29, 2016 at 09:04:04 AM EST
    Too many people believe in the white knight theory of politics where electing one person is going to change everything.

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    Seems like standard cynical talking points.... (none / 0) (#74)
    by Realleft on Sun May 01, 2016 at 10:14:54 AM EST
    You also don't get very far promising to compromise before you've ever even stated your ideal.  And please on lumping together Hillary and Obama (how he finishes the article).  She's still as different from Obama as she was 8 years ago when he was the one selling a dream like Bernie was this year, as she said pretty much the same things she's saying now.  I'm not saying that's good or bad, but Drum sems to pit Hillary/Obama against Bernie and that's just silly.


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    Yes of course because the future of the country (5.00 / 1) (#71)
    by ruffian on Fri Apr 29, 2016 at 08:57:57 PM EST
    is nothing compared to Bernie's delicate feelings about what harm Clinton will do to his ideals.

    Could it be he just plain does not like her and it has nothing to do with his ideals? The more time that does by the more I believe that.

    I am soo sick of this election.

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    Seriously, it is difficult for (none / 0) (#65)
    by caseyOR on Fri Apr 29, 2016 at 10:56:46 AM EST
    Sanders to decide who would do more harm to the issues he holds dear? Does he not know about Donald Trump? Has Sanders been so busy throwing bombs at the Democrats that he missed the Republican primary fireworks?

    If Sanders honestly cannot see the enormous difference between Trump and Clinton, the effect that difference would make to every issue he claims to hold dear, than thank god he is losing because that would mean he has lost the ability to think and process information.

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    It's not easy (none / 0) (#66)
    by Steve13209 on Fri Apr 29, 2016 at 11:27:46 AM EST
    to allow your positions to get balled up and stuck in President Clinton's bottom drawer just because Trump is a horrible candidate.

    I think you folks have to decide whether Sanders is important or not important for Clinton to win the general election. If he and his supporters don't really matter and most of them will do what you all say is obvious and vote for Hillary over Trump, then fine. Stop talking about him, his supporters and whether he stays in the campaign.

    If he IS important, then give him the respect he deserves. Let him to try to extract promises from the Clinton campaign that will allow him to support her in good conscience, not just because she is the lesser of two evils.

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    Clinton is not the lesser (none / 0) (#67)
    by caseyOR on Fri Apr 29, 2016 at 11:55:47 AM EST
    of two evils. That is a ridiculous construct.

    Anyone who has been paying attention to this primary campaign, and is not so steeped in "my candidate good, so your candidate bad" school will have noticed that the positions of Clinton and Sanders are very close to identical on most issues. Where they often differ is on how to get to the desired policy goal, not on the goal itself. i doubt very much that a President Clinton would stuff these policy positions, which they share, into any bottom drawer.

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    His voters are mportant (none / 0) (#68)
    by jbindc on Fri Apr 29, 2016 at 12:50:31 PM EST
    But probably not nearly as important as they think they are. There are much more important voters to get out there, and they aren't on the far left of the spectrum.

    What's more, Clinton now has a cause that can galvanize a campaign that's been criticized for lacking passion and inspiration--saving America from Donald Trump. Although some diehard Bernie Bros may decide to sit out the November election, she should have little difficulty uniting her party around the goal of keeping the billionaire bully out of the White House.

    Looking ahead, the bigger challenge will be recalibrating her campaign for the general election. That means moving beyond attempts to coopt Sanders' populist appeal to hardcore partisans and crafting a broader message aimed at persuadable voters across the center.

    A new PPI poll provides fresh evidence that the pragmatic center's demise has been greatly exaggerated. Swing voters still exist, and they likely will play a decisive role in determining which party wins control of the White House and Senate in November.

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    Our survey indicates that to win them, Democrats must move beyond the finger-pointing populism that's dominated their primary campaign. Swing voters aren't drawn to an angry narrative of economic grievance and victimhood. Most don't believe the economic deck is stacked against them (only 39% say it is, compared to 47% of Democrats).

    Swing voters are worried about the economy, but they have little interest in a "revolution" to fetter corporations or trade wars with China and Mexico. Instead, they seem eager for a hopeful account of how to make America a stronger competitor in the global economy. They reject Donald Trump's overblown claims that the U.S. economy is in shambles. Nor do they share the populist left's hostility toward American business.

    On the contrary, they favor policies that help entrepreneurs and businesses succeed as the best way to get wages rising again and help U.S. workers get ahead. For example, they support dramatically lowering the corporate income tax--to 15%--to put U.S. companies on an even competitive footing and prevent more jobs from going overseas.

    Here's the message that comes through loud and clear in this poll: In the general election, Democrats can't afford to cede the high ground of economic growth and competitiveness.

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    In general, the swing voters are more fiscally conservative and mistrustful of government than Democrats.


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    Oh dear.. (none / 0) (#69)
    by sallywally on Fri Apr 29, 2016 at 02:17:45 PM EST
    Republican lite?

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    I wouldn't say that (none / 0) (#70)
    by jbindc on Fri Apr 29, 2016 at 02:34:30 PM EST
    Probably lots of moderates who lean Dem.

    I know it's hard sometimes, after hanging out around boards like this, or on Twitter, or what have you (especially with a Bernie Sanders in the race) to remember that most Dems (and swing voters who identify with Dems) are not hardcore lefties.  The party HAS moved leftward, but most voters would not describe themselves as "very" liberal.  For ecamole, I'm not.  I'm much more moderate and agree with many of the sentiments of the swing voters in the poll.

    So, that's whose votes we need to work more on getting, because there's a whole lot more of them then there will be of disappointed Berniebros who eant their butts kissed.

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    So just say whatever is needed to win... (none / 0) (#75)
    by Realleft on Sun May 01, 2016 at 10:17:45 AM EST
    an imaginary swing voting block that may or may not play much role in an upcoming election.  That's the advice?  And in the meantime ignore  independent new voters?  Was anyone around in 2008?  Not what happened at all.

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    Well (none / 0) (#73)
    by sallywally on Sat Apr 30, 2016 at 06:42:27 PM EST
    that's a bit condescending. Clinton supporters have such a lack of understanding? imagination? We can't grasp the nature/meaning of this act?

    Tiresome!

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    It's not a waste... (none / 0) (#25)
    by kdog on Thu Apr 28, 2016 at 09:33:10 AM EST
    if $27 dollars is two hours labor at min. wage sometime soon, instead of four hours labor.  Then it's the best damn 27 dollars you'll ever spend.

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