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It's International Yoga Day.

I prefer Pilates, but I think it's great that so many millions of people are moving their bodies.

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    I'm in Ohio (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jun 21, 2016 at 03:14:08 PM EST
    This week. No TRump signs here in central Ohio but lots of Hillary onex. Lol. Republicans here ard too embarrassed I guess but they are still sporting Romney Ryan bumper stickers

    The reason (none / 0) (#7)
    by Repack Rider on Tue Jun 21, 2016 at 11:24:37 PM EST
    ...there are no Trump signs is...

    There are no Trump signs.

    Need a hat?

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    Hmmm, I wonder (none / 0) (#8)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 01:52:13 AM EST
    One of neighbors had homemade Trump signs for months. Replaced by two that seem to resemble his campaign. I wonder if he had to make those too?

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    yes!!!! (none / 0) (#37)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 03:47:31 PM EST
    I have seen that in Georgia too and flanked with confederateflags like ruffian says.what a sight.

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    Not true. (none / 0) (#12)
    by Chuck0 on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 09:13:02 AM EST
    I see many Trump signs when driving through rural northern Maryland (primarily Harford County).


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    You haven't seen anything until you've seen them (none / 0) (#21)
    by ruffian on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 01:39:41 PM EST
    in the same yards as Confederate flags. That is a nice touch.

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    The South Will Rise Again... (none / 0) (#101)
    by kdog on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 02:17:39 PM EST
    and a real estate shyster who exploits bankruptcy laws for profit from New Yawk City shall lead them.

    Robert E. Lee must be rolling over in his grave;)

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    Heh (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 21, 2016 at 04:08:23 PM EST
    Donald Trump Questions Whether Hillary Clinton And Obama Are Actually Christians
    The GOP candidate claimed there just isn't enough available information about his opponent's faith to know where she stands

    .@realDonaldTrump I propose one debate between you and @HillaryClinton - consisting solely of a Bible quiz, winner takes all


    Suggestion: (5.00 / 5) (#11)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 06:40:27 AM EST
    Can we expand the debate team: Hillary, Trump and two Corinthians.

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    I'll see your 2 Corinthians, ... (none / 0) (#58)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 07:30:04 PM EST
    ... and raise you 2 Thessalonians, a Philippian and Jill Stein.

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    Who is following...? (5.00 / 2) (#13)
    by jbindc on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 11:54:03 AM EST
    The sit-in occurring on the floor of the House of Representatives RIGHT NOW.

    They are protesting the fact that Ryan won't bring a gun vote to the floor.

    Led by a true patriot, John Lewis.

    Just heard about it on the radio on (none / 0) (#15)
    by ruffian on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 12:21:14 PM EST
    my lunch break. Good to hear. John Lewis really sounded fired up in the clip they played.

    Ryan (or someone else?) directed CSPAN be cut-off.

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    Now there's a bunch of Senators (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by jbindc on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 02:21:41 PM EST
    Who have joined them:  Franken, Booker, Kaine, Schumer, Warren, Murphy, Markey, Leahy, Casey, and others

    And in other news, Brent Sowcrift, NSA u der Ford and GHWB just endorsed Hillary Clinton.

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    And C-SPAN (none / 0) (#26)
    by jbindc on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 02:28:50 PM EST
    Is streaming Periscope from the floor!

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    Ha! that's great (none / 0) (#32)
    by ruffian on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 03:24:26 PM EST
    I'll have to find that on my phone


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    In other Republican news, (none / 0) (#28)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 02:43:41 PM EST
    Dennis Hastert, the nation's longest serving Republican Speaker of the House, entered federal prison in Minnesota to begin serving his 15-month sentence.  He will now be known as Prisoner No. 47991-424, so jot that down for quick reference.  After his release, Hastert faces two years of supervision and participation in a sex offender treatment program.

    Senator Marco Rubio who said he looked forward to becoming a private citizen in January, has decided to run for re-election after all. Those boots were made for walking and grifting.

      Perhpas Rubio's most attractive quality is his senate absenteeism--the less he shows up, the less damage he can do. Since Trump beat Little Marco in 66 our of 67 Florida counties in Rubio's failed presidential effort, Trump's would be a winning endorsement.

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    Be honest now, KeysDan. (none / 0) (#41)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 05:24:15 PM EST
    Doesn't Li'l Marco Rubio's promise to stand up to Trump remind you of someone's else's schtick?

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    Har!... (none / 0) (#62)
    by desertswine on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 08:24:42 PM EST
    Why is that always funny?  It's one of the great mysteries.

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    I believe we find it hilarious because ... (none / 0) (#125)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 10:26:00 PM EST
    ... even 40+ years later, that shtick still stands as one of the most absolutely, mind-numbingly stupid things we've ever seen anyone ever do on network television, late night comedy show or otherwise, and the guy actually had the nerve to go there.

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    Where's Bernie? (none / 0) (#34)
    by CoralGables on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 03:34:24 PM EST
    best question of the day (none / 0) (#36)
    by athyrio on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 03:43:58 PM EST
    where the hell is Bernie and why wont he come out and endorse Hillary...today is being reported that only half of his supporters will support Hillary...he is really wrecking her campaign IMO

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    He doesn't have many supporters left (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by CoralGables on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 04:25:32 PM EST
    half of not many won't amount to much

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    from your mouth to Gods ears. (none / 0) (#47)
    by athyrio on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 06:10:34 PM EST
    I'm agnostic (none / 0) (#61)
    by CoralGables on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 08:11:40 PM EST
    I don't talk to him/her whether he/she exists or not.

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    Ya gotta be proud (none / 0) (#44)
    by BTAL on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 05:44:53 PM EST
    First Richard Armitage (GW's SoS) and Iraq regime change supporter and Plame outer.   Now, Scrowcroft.  NeoCon/NeoLib warhawks of a feather.

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    They'd support Sanders over trump too (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by ruffian on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 06:11:01 PM EST
    Anyone that ever tried to pretend to be smart is going to support even my golden retriever over Trump.

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    But guess what....take a look at ???? (none / 0) (#46)
    by christinep on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 05:55:18 PM EST
    If anyone takes the cake or the muck in a former role of Secretary of DOD or National Security Advisor, it would have to be the infamous, deceitful, pompous Donald Rumsfield. Today, the two Donalds are in tandem as Donald R enthusiastically supported Donald Trump.

    Since you seem to suggest that it is a rigid, non-explainable rule that one wouldn't talk to advisors other than those approved in advance, I thought that you would really get a kick out of the Rumsfield-Trump connection.  

    BTW, what did you think of the late Robert McNamara and his relationship to Presidents?    

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    christinep - quite comical (none / 0) (#51)
    by BTAL on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 06:57:50 PM EST
    You don't address the NeoCons/NeoLibs endorsing your candidate but try a 180 degree deflection.  Then to add the icing to the cake you revert to the '60s McNamara.   Guess when you have a warhawk as your D nominee, you don't have many options.

    Thanks for the evening chuckle.

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    Correction: We have strpmg. (none / 0) (#53)
    by christinep on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 07:06:01 PM EST
    reasonable, experienced, international expert as our presumed nominee, Hillary Clinton.  So ... again... what do you think of your own shoot-from-the-hip, say-different-things-on-different-days Donald.  My, my ... he is still fawning over Putin; and, wants to have a conversation with North Koreas' Un.  

    Whatever your preferences, man.  But, more than ever, I am proud to stand with someone who is regarded nationally and internationally as a solid leader.  I have no idea what your alternative is--that would be Donald T--and why you think he might have a good plan, or any plan in the foreign policy arena?  'Be curious to learn what you think is so persuasive about Donald Trump's foreign policy?  

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    First of all, Richard Armitage was not ... (none / 0) (#56)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 07:24:16 PM EST
    ... Dubya's Secretary of State; rather, he was serving at State under Colin Powell at the time. Secondly, and speaking for myself only, I happen to believe that both he and Brent Scowcroft are rather smart fellows, regardless of the respective politics of the administrations in which they served.

    And since Armitage and Scowcroft are quite obviously not ignorant and stupid themselves, it's more likely than not that a know-nothing demagogue and blowhard like Donald Trump is 100% anathema to them. Why would they therefore support his candidacy? Since the GOP they once knew no longer exists, they're under no obligation to swear fealty to the present ship of fools.

    Aloha.

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    Bernie???? (none / 0) (#57)
    by oculus on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 07:27:42 PM EST
    He did show up in DC to tell CSPAN (none / 0) (#60)
    by ruffian on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 07:59:40 PM EST
    that it looks like he won't be the nominee. It does not say when the interview was recorded. Must be tough when you can't grab a news cycle anymore.

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    From a comment to (none / 0) (#64)
    by oculus on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 08:55:37 PM EST
    your link:

    How long before the Sarandonistas accuse him of betrayal?


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    He eventually showed up (none / 0) (#69)
    by jbindc on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 05:31:11 AM EST
    Shook a few hands and left.

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    Beam me up Scotty (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by ragebot on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 07:10:27 PM EST
    Caesar Goodson cleared of all charges in (5.00 / 1) (#92)
    by McBain on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 12:24:03 PM EST
    latest Freddie Gray trial

    Goodson was the officer facing the most serious charges.  It was another bench trial.  Marilyn Mosby needs to be investigated.  

    seems unlikely (none / 0) (#95)
    by The Addams Family on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 01:01:23 PM EST
    that Vogue will come calling again anytime soon

    next up for Mosby: an "analyst" gig on MSNBC?

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    But in other news (none / 0) (#96)
    by jbindc on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 01:17:04 PM EST
    Corey Lewandowski landed a salaried political analyst gig at CNN...

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    yes, saw that (none / 0) (#104)
    by The Addams Family on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 02:51:45 PM EST
    surprised it wasn't Fox

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    Just (none / 0) (#105)
    by FlJoe on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 02:56:23 PM EST
    what CNN needs, another trump fanboy. I hope he can measure up to the high bar of journalistic integrity set by Jeffery Lord and Katrina Pierson

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    Her bad behavior will (none / 0) (#107)
    by McBain on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 03:01:59 PM EST
    probably be rewarded

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    remember the cries (5.00 / 1) (#108)
    by The Addams Family on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 03:22:23 PM EST
    of "If you are not outraged and if you do not want these police officers to go to prison, where is your humanity?"

    today's verdict confirms that this thread from last May is indeed the cesspool it appeared to be at the time

    Marilyn Mosby, showboating demagogue & disgraced political hack

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    I had fun re reading that thread (none / 0) (#113)
    by McBain on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 05:19:28 PM EST
    but you're correct it was a cesspool.  Lots of people with their heads in the sand, unable to see the obvious. Lots of personal attacks and insults.  A few good points were made here and there.

    One of my comments...
    "My guess is Mosby made charges she didn't feel she could get....she made them for political gain"
    I still believe that.    

    One longtime TL member wanted to bet me Mosby would get convictions on all of her charges. I talked  him out of a bad bet.  

    Someone else suggested the officers might want to opt for a bench trial.  I didn't think it was a good idea. I was wrong.

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    the prosecution (none / 0) (#123)
    by The Addams Family on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 09:25:23 PM EST
    concealed & lied about potentially exculpatory evidence

    i wonder if that justifies a charge of malicious prosecution

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    But that's par for the course (none / 0) (#124)
    by McBain on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 10:14:03 PM EST
    in these political prosecutions.  The Zimmerman prosecution withheld evidence, nothing happened to them.

    As I said before, there should be an investigation.  Let's find out what Mosby knew when she decided to bring charges against the 6 officers.

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    Evangelical leader (none / 0) (#1)
    by jbindc on Tue Jun 21, 2016 at 02:18:40 PM EST
    Fikes... (none / 0) (#16)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 12:32:27 PM EST
    sounds like an atypical Evangelical. Good for her.

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    Yikes (none / 0) (#4)
    by TrevorBolder on Tue Jun 21, 2016 at 07:44:41 PM EST
    http://tinyurl.com/zptjb7m

    Bloomberg news

    T

    he Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation was among the organizations breached by suspected Russian hackers in a dragnet of the U.S. political apparatus ahead of the November election, according to three people familiar with the matter.
    The attacks on the foundation's network, as well as those of the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign, compound concerns about her digital security even as the FBI continues to investigate her use of a personal e-mail server while she was secretary of state.

    Additionally , Assange has recently stated Wiki will be releasing Clinton e mails as well, but maybe they just got them from Guccifer2.0, or the Russians.
    Or Guccifer2.0 just might be the Russians.

    One person's "Yikes!" ... (none / 0) (#5)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Jun 21, 2016 at 09:08:33 PM EST
    ... is another's (Yawn!), I guess. Until someone is willing to actually go on the record and personally own what's being said, I tend to not place too much credence any more upon unsourced information and generalized allegations.

    Now, I'm not saying the a breach of the Clinton Foundation's electronic firewall didn't happen, when it quite obviously could have occurred. But the giveaway line here in this article is the gratuitous comingling of this most recent issue, which likely occurred this calendar year, with the FBI's ongoing security inquiry regarding Mrs. Clinton's use of a private server at the State Dept. four-plus years ago, as those they're somehow related to one another. They're not.

    Because when it comes to all things Clinton, our less than illustrious mainstream media has been burned time and again by half-assed nonsense and cherry-picked data leaked from anonymous sources, whose personal agendas likely don't dovetail with that of their intended target.

    So, please excuse me if I prefer to wait until someone is brave enough to actually put their name to the information. Because right now, experience has taught me to equate it -- at least initially -- with the trafficking of innuendo.

    Aloha.

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    Doubt thats coming (none / 0) (#9)
    by TrevorBolder on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 05:15:52 AM EST
    Until someone is willing to actually go on the record and personally own what's being said

    You want someone to admit to hacking their server?
    Don't think that will happen. The original Guccifer is now sitting in a US jail talking to the FBI.

    Although Julian Assange has come out on ITV stating much the same

    http://tinyurl.com/jhkrcx4

    The Clinton Foundation has dealt with some countries with less than stellar human rights records, at the same time they have had business before Madame Sec at the State Department. All around the same time that large checks were cut to Bill Clinton for a "speech", either payable to the Foundation or Bill Clinton himself.
    I am sure the Russians would love to play havoc with our internal politics.

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    oh heavens no, (none / 0) (#17)
    by mm on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 12:36:06 PM EST
    who would ever expect the man to admit such a thing?

    EXCLUSIVE: The infamous Romanian hacker known as "Guccifer," speaking exclusively with Fox News, claimed he easily - and repeatedly - breached former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's personal email server in early 2013.  

    "For me, it was easy ... easy for me, for everybody," Marcel Lehel Lazar, who goes by the moniker "Guccifer," told Fox News from a Virginia jail where he is being held.

    Guccifer's potential role in the Clinton email investigation was first reported by Fox News last month. The hacker subsequently claimed he was able to access the server - and provided extensive details about how he did it and what he found - over the course of a half-hour jailhouse interview and a series of recorded phone calls with Fox News.

    Fox News could not independently confirm Lazar's claims.

    In response to Lazar's claims, the Clinton campaign issued a statement  Wednesday night saying, "There is absolutely no basis to believe the claims made by this criminal from his prison cell. In addition to the fact he offers no proof to support his claims, his descriptions of Secretary Clinton's server are inaccurate. It is unfathomable that he would have gained access to her emails and not leaked them the way he did to his other victims."



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    Lol (none / 0) (#45)
    by TrevorBolder on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 05:48:26 PM EST
    He admitted it all

    After he was arrested, not before

    Lol, no, these hackers are not that stupid

    And this is Guccifer 2.0 (or so he calls himself, or she)
    And the Russians as well, and they will not admit anything...yet.

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    NCAA College World Series Update: (none / 0) (#6)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Jun 21, 2016 at 09:28:49 PM EST
    This year's national top seeds have failed to live up to the hype, as No. 1 Florida was eliminated today by Texas Tech, 3-2, while No. 2 Miami was sent packing by UC-Santa Barbara, 5-3.

    Both teams were forecast by prognosticators to meet for the NCAA championship this weekend. Instead, they are the first two to go home in the eight-team, double elimination tournament in Omaha.

    UCSB will now face Arizona in an elimination game, with the winner to take on Oklahoma State. In the other bracket, Texas Tech will take on the loser of tonight's TCU-Coastal Carolina in an elimination game.

    Aloha.

    Perhaps the NCAA selection committee ... (none / 0) (#10)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 05:27:12 AM EST
    ... ought to expand its horizons north of the Ohio and west of the Oklahoma Panhandle. Of the 64 teams picked this year, 17 of them -- more than one in four -- were from the SEC and ACC. Of the 16 regionals this year, 13 of those 17 SEC / ACC schools were picked as host. The top eight teams in the final Top 25 poll were from those two conferences.

    Given the gratuitous frontloading of SEC / ACC teams by the NCAA selection committee, particularly as hosts in a sport where host schools have a marked advantage over the competition by virtue of playing on their own home fields, you'd have expected those two conferences to have dominated this year's tournament.

    Yet that's not been the case. Of those 13 SEC / ACC teams hosting regionals, only 5 of them survived that opening round. All 5 of those teams were then selected as hosts of the super-regional round. But only two, Florida and Miami, made it to Omaha for the College World Series. Both teams then washed out quickly without winning a single game. By the third day in Omaha, not a single team from either conference is left.

    Congratulations to the selection committee on embarrassing itself with its myopia. There are 31 conferences in the NCAA, and great baseball is being played outside the southeastern U.S. Yet only 25 of the 64 teams selected for the tournament this season were from outside that region.

    The NCAA really needs to do better.

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    And yet, despite that great baseball (none / 0) (#22)
    by CoralGables on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 01:39:56 PM EST
    played elsewhere, all 8 teams that advanced to Omaha came from the Sunbelt states.

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    Like it (none / 0) (#23)
    by FlJoe on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 01:52:12 PM EST
    or not, teams from the southern tier of states, with climates suited for year round playing and training do have a pretty big advantage.

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    Could this mean those players (none / 0) (#24)
    by oculus on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 02:12:13 PM EST
    do not say during spring training: gotta get my swing back?

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    They do, at that. (none / 0) (#52)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 07:00:46 PM EST
    And it was actually much worse back when I was playing college baseball at UW in the early '80s, since there were no NCAA limits then in place on the number of games a school could schedule in a given season.

    Therefore, programs in the Sunbelt always got the jump on schools farther north and would begin regular season play in late January or early February, while we practiced indoors and often had to wait until mid-March at the earliest before we were finally able to play on our own home field.

    How bad was this discrepancy? Well, during my freshman season in 1980, we played 53 games and finished with a respectable 33-20 mark, whereas our Pac-10 conference rival USC actually WON more games that same season than we had played all year; the Trojans finished at 58-18.

    Playing both early and often represented a tremendous advantage for Sunbelt teams, particularly at tournament selection time. Even though we lost only two games more than USC in 1980 and finished just one game behind them in the conference standings, they won 25 games more than we did, and so they received an NCAA tourney invitation while we stayed home. I've often wondered what our record might have been that year, had we been able to play an additional 23 games.

    If we did start our season early, we had to go on the road to do so, as we did in 1984 when we played our first 12 games at UNLV, San Diego State, Long Beach State and Fresno State. For years, our coach Bob McDonald and fellow coaches up north lobbied the NCAA to level the playing field, by imposing a limit to the number of regular season games any one school could schedule.

    The 1979 University of Hawaii baseball team which holds the NCAA record for number of wins in a single season, having finished at 69-15. And that's a record which will never be broken, because the NCAA in 1993 finally acquiesced to all the criticism and imposed the current 56-game limit to a regular season schedule, which includes both conference and nonconference games.

    Aloha.

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    ... of the Sunbelt is outside the U.S. southeast. Regardless, my primary point here is that the NCAA should not have chosen 17 of the tournament's 64 participants from only two conferences, never mind installing 13 of those 17 teams as hosts in the tourney's 16 regionals.

    That sort of deliberate frontloading is totally uncalled for, particularly given SEC / ACC schools' penchants for avoiding robust non-conference competition during the regular season. Since this is the second year in a row this has happened, it raised an awful lot of eyebrows among longtime NCAA baseball aficionados. Big West champion Cal State Fullerton should never have been sent to Starkeville, MS for the regionals, especially since host Mississippi State only finished in 5th place in the SEC.

    Given the extent of the subsequent washout by SEC and ACC teams in tournament play, particularly by the host schools, the clear lack of consideration for diversity and regional parity that was exhibited this year by the NCAA selection committee, in both extending tournament bids and selecting host schools, ultimately cost them big-time in terms of squandered credibility. Of the six remaining teams in Omaha, five of them were left unseeded by the committee at selection time. That represents an epic misjudgment on their part.

    Aloha.

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    Dogs bark, the caravan passes (none / 0) (#35)
    by CoralGables on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 03:36:38 PM EST
    Yep. And that CWS caravan ... (none / 0) (#42)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 05:30:20 PM EST
    ... just passed by the two most overrated conferences in college baseball this season. See ya!

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    Gun and pot charges dismissed against (none / 0) (#14)
    by ragebot on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 12:16:00 PM EST
    And the moral is (none / 0) (#18)
    by coast on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 12:39:54 PM EST
    always break the law in no less than pairs so they won't know who actually broke the law....and its a plus if you are really good at playing a sport because that is a real sacrifice.

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    My moral learned is... (none / 0) (#49)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 06:51:51 PM EST
    when you come across the sweet aroma of what you believe to be the sacrament, ask for a toke or keep it moving. Do not shred Bill of Rights, do not try to collect $200.

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    It also helped that the county DA ... (none / 0) (#29)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 02:45:33 PM EST
    ... is apparently a football fan. Roll, Tide.

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    Roll... corruption (none / 0) (#97)
    by Mr Natural on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 01:18:54 PM EST
    Shades of Florida covering (none / 0) (#134)
    by jondee on Fri Jun 24, 2016 at 05:33:38 PM EST
    Aaron Hernandez's ace -- until later when no one could cover it any more.

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    And the hits just keep on comming (none / 0) (#19)
    by ragebot on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 12:58:03 PM EST
    Repeal Obamacare! (none / 0) (#20)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 01:28:56 PM EST
    After six years of vague talk on replacement, the House Republicans finally unveiled a vague package of proposals without cost estimates or legislative language. The 20,000 word plan is said to be like an Impressionist painting, the closer you get to it, the more blurred it becomes.

    Some comfort can be taken in the usual and customary Republican mainstays: health savings accounts, sales of insurance across state lines, and elimination of regulations. However, their are some new wrinkles: the popular preexisting conditions are replaced with less stringent standards, a federal income tax on contributions that employers make to employee health insurance based on a cap, older Americans can be charged up to five times what they are charged by younger people, and the requirement that Americans carry health insurance is eliminated.  

    The ACA expansion of Medicaid will be rolled back with a per capita allotment and the states will be given a lump sum of federal money for all of a state's Medicaid program. States will be allowed to establish work requirements for Medicaid.  
    recipients.

    While the House Republicans were at it, they decided to "reform" Medicare.  For starters, the eligibility age will be raised to 67 from 65. And, in accord with Paul Ryan's hobby horse, Medicare will be transformed into a fully competitive market-based model known as premium support (i.e., coupons).  Medicare is to compete directly with private plans.

    Trump promises to repeal Obamacare and replace it with "something terrific."  It is not clear if the House Republican's proposal is that terrific something, but the reason Ryan endorsed Trump was that Trump will make the Republican's bold agenda reality.  

    i thought (none / 0) (#67)
    by linea on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 11:58:19 PM EST
    as i understand it, republicans want to eliminate obama care, turm SocSec into a 401k to the glee of wall street, and turn medicare into a credit or voucher toward insurance (which is rediculous). as i understand trump's proposals, he wants to replace obamacare but keep SocSec and medicare as they are. anyone feel free to correct me if im mistaken.

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    Latin American Soccer Announcers (none / 0) (#40)
    by CoralGables on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 04:29:42 PM EST
    And soccer fans around the world ... (none / 0) (#43)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 05:35:00 PM EST
    ... have nothing on English soccer fans -- thankfully.

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    Speaking of futbol.... (none / 0) (#50)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 06:57:00 PM EST
    must question Jurgen's line up selection in the Copa semis. Play the kids...not Beckerman and Wondo. It's Argen-freakin-tina whaddya got to lose. And I love Beckerman!

    Michael Bradley's time has come too, sorry to say.

    Good run though for the U.S. fellas, all things considered.


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    Hindsight's always 20 / 20, kdog. (none / 0) (#54)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 07:09:00 PM EST
    It was Jurgen's judgment call. He's the coach. And as you said, the opponent was futbol superpower Argentina. Had he played the kids and the U.S. still lost decisively, no doubt people would've then been asking him why he kept Beckerman and Bradley out of the starting lineup.

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    Wondo's (none / 0) (#59)
    by TrevorBolder on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 07:31:28 PM EST
    Chance for glory was in the World Cup, and he flubbed his scoring chance.
    Last night, he took down Messi to set up that free kick.
    I enjoy watching the US mens soccer, but Argentina and other countries still play on a different level.

    Have no problem with Jurgen as Coach, he just needs better players.

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    I like Jurgen too... (none / 0) (#74)
    by kdog on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 09:23:01 AM EST
    he was brought in to make the leap to at least be competitive with the big boys...the only way to do that is to groom the next generation.  I don't know why he leans on the pedestrian vets who won't be around if or when we make the leap.  

    Granted, there were limited options with Bedoya, Jones, & Wood out...I would have liked to see Pulisic & Nagbe start.

    Overall he's done a great job, just some of his lineup selections leave me scratching my head.

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    The history (none / 0) (#109)
    by TrevorBolder on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 04:12:50 PM EST
    Of Team USA soccer coaches,

    They don't have time to groom the next generation, or they are out.

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    That's true... (none / 0) (#114)
    by kdog on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 05:59:02 PM EST
    No patience from ownership has ruined many a team in many a sport. That was the Mets problem till they wised up and let Sandy work. And the Wankees problem now;)

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    The Brazilians can't seem to do (none / 0) (#63)
    by desertswine on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 08:45:33 PM EST
    anything right.  The upcoming Olympics have every sign of an impending disaster.

    Old news (none / 0) (#66)
    by ragebot on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 10:10:06 PM EST
    My go to web site Sailing Anarchy has been running stories about things like raw sewage in the sailing venue.  But the latest news is even worse.

    blurb from the site:

    "With many Rio 2016 teams now on the ground for their final six weeks of training and practice, shit is getting real - too real.  Worse yet, there's really no help available when it all goes down."

    Two Team GBR Ribs were stolen overnight from Torben Grael's Rio Yacht Club in Niteroi - the same club hit by stray bullets from a nearby gunfight a few weeks back.  They were dragged to a beach in Jurujuba, not far from the US Team's launching location.

    The two British team coaches who lost the RIBs found them the next morning as they were being stripped.  Already VHFs, fuel hoses, tanks, and wiring were already gone, with outboards next to go.  The law-abiding GBR coaches' immediate reaction was to threaten the thieves with calling the police.

    "You think that will help you?" the head pirate said, with a big laugh



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    While I'm fixating on the US Presidential (none / 0) (#65)
    by desertswine on Wed Jun 22, 2016 at 09:18:23 PM EST
    Race, other things are happening in the world.
    There are food riots in Venezuela.
    Rome elected its first female mayor, ever.  And she's very interesting.
    Britain votes Thursday on leaving the EU.

    I just finished watching the O.J. documentary (none / 0) (#68)
    by McBain on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 02:00:18 AM EST
    All five episodes were excellent.  I agree with Jeralyn that Carl Douglas was particularity interesting to listen to.  

    I forgot how good Barry Scheck was during the criminal trial.  Cochrane got the fame but Scheck was probably the best lawyer in that case.

    I wish they had spent a little more time on the armed robbery/kidnapping trial.  That looked  like a case of social justice.  

    I hope someone will do a similar documentary on on the Casey Anthony, Amanda Knox and George Zimmerman sagas.  

    I don't need the re-creation (none / 0) (#89)
    by Repack Rider on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 11:20:32 AM EST
    I paid rapt attention to the real thing, then downloaded the transcripts.

    There is no explanation for the verdict.  "Reasonable doubt" requires that there is an alternative explanation for the evidence, i.e. a reason for doubt.  The alternative explanation doesn't have to be TRUE, it just has to explain the evidence in a way that is consistent with the defendant's innocence.

    No such explanation was provided, even though the physical evidence was overwhelming.  

    Now that Fuhrman has decided he might as well be the guy they painted him as, I don't have much respect for him, but he was not guilty of anything.  He found the glove that meant OJ did it, evidence which was absolutely consistent with dozens of other pieces of physical evidence.  There can be no disputing that.

    Fuhrman. who had not done anything except his job, had to be destroyed in order for OJ to walk.  He did not deserve to be made into a pariah.  

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    I don't know... (5.00 / 1) (#93)
    by kdog on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 12:31:53 PM EST
    The LAPD certainly deserved pariah status, as the 30 for 30 demonstrated quite well in the first installment. And Fuhrman was the member of that pariah organization that took the stand, right or wrong.  

    Clearly it was not a case of reasonable doubt...a judge can instruct all day long but jurors are people.  And people are gonna do what they wanna do...the jury's verdict was a conviction of the LAPD more so than an acquittal of OJ.  Just as the subsequent conviction in Nevada was a guilty verdict for the murder of Brown and Goldman, not really a guilty verdict for robbery.

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    I've heard several jurors interviewed. (none / 0) (#98)
    by Mr Natural on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 01:31:15 PM EST
    Speaking for themselves, it was clearly a showcased thumbing of their noses at the LA Sheriffs and LA PD.

    How often have you heard the phrase, Stick it to the man?  For those jurors, opportunity had knocked.

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    Ya, I agree. (none / 0) (#99)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 01:48:08 PM EST
    I remember one jurist saying something like "And all that DNA stuff, that was just stuff they were trying to confuse us with."

    Cra cra.

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    How noble of them (none / 0) (#100)
    by jbindc on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 02:01:35 PM EST
    2 people, who had NOTHING to do with the LAPD, are brutally murdered, but jurors are gonna "stick it to the man".  Screw those two families.

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    vs Rodney King (1.00 / 1) (#102)
    by Mr Natural on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 02:46:19 PM EST
    and tens of thousands of others over the years.

    Too freakin' bad for your jackbooted pals in blue, jb.

    They took it on the chin.  Exactly Once.

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    right (1.00 / 1) (#103)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 02:51:00 PM EST
    and as was often repeated at the time "it was just a coke wh0re and a jew so who cares", right?

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    Right (1.00 / 1) (#106)
    by jbindc on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 03:01:19 PM EST
    What a jerk he is.

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    And how many black guys... (none / 0) (#115)
    by kdog on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 06:02:13 PM EST
    got screwed for the perception of their race that had nothing to do with them?

    Never said it was fair to the families, only fair to the LAPD and the DA's office.

    And it ain't like a guilty verdict ever rose the dead.

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    Finally (none / 0) (#70)
    by TrevorBolder on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 06:01:47 AM EST
    Title IX being taken to task
    Legal protections for all students may be restored

    http://tinyurl.com/h33uv3c

    A University of Virginia law student who was accused of sexual misconduct and banned from campus--years after the alleged incident--is suing the U.S. Education Department for giving UVA no choice but to rule against him.

    His lawsuit is a direct challenge to the legality of the campus kangaroo courts the federal government claims are required under Title IX. Lawyers representing the student, John Doe, argue persuasively that he would have been found innocent of wrongdoing if not for the Obama administration's insistence that universities adjudicate sexual assault under the preponderance of evidence standard.

    This makes Doe's lawsuit the strongest legal assault on Title IX to date. If successful, it could undo some of the damage wrought by OCR's crusade to remove elements of due process from campus rape trials.



    Something needs to change (none / 0) (#91)
    by McBain on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 12:19:51 PM EST
    I found this quote from your link most disturbing...
    A former Pennsylvania supreme court justice presided over Doe's hearings. She ultimately decided that the evidence slightly indicated Doe's guilt. According to the lawsuit, she specifically referenced the low evidence threshold as the reason for the finding of responsibility. If a higher standard had been in effect, the justice would have very likely come to a different determination, she said.


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    Brexit has arrived with British black hehecopters (none / 0) (#71)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 07:50:14 AM EST
    Leave campaigners are worried that the EU referendum is being manipulated by the government - two-thirds of Ukip voters believe that there is a plot to rig the vote, and a third of them believe that MI5 are involved in it, according to a poll this week.

    Those warning about the conspiracy suggest that MI5 or another government agency could rub out the crosses on their ballot papers before they are counted - presumably either spoiling their vote or changing it into a vote to remain in the EU.



    Jimmy Fallon & the 8th grade impressionist (none / 0) (#72)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 08:00:52 AM EST
    Both as Donald Trump prank calling Hillary as Bernie Sanders

    this is very funny

    What a talented kid.   Hope he has a good agent.   He's going to need it.

    They are back to gushing (none / 0) (#73)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 08:14:15 AM EST
    About Donald on Morning Joe.  So thrilled about his speech yesterday.  So excited about how he excited and mesmerized and mostly that he (quote) gave a 43 minute speech without saying anything republicans had to rebuke!!!!

    Maher is so right.  When it comes to lowering the bar Donald has really raised the bar.

    Sort of the same story (5.00 / 1) (#83)
    by KeysDan on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 10:49:38 AM EST
    with Curly and Moe in an interview with Trevor Noah on last night's Daily Show.  The new and measured Trump on display in that grand speech was diplomatic and incisive. And, terrific to boot.

     "Hillary may be the most corrupt person ever to seek the presidency." .."whose decisions spread death, destruction, terrorism everywhere she touched."

    The Democratic sit-in, at a minimum, stole the day from Trump, save for those pundits who feared the race was ended by the dead horse with the orange mane. Time to resuscitate. As Gail Collins notes, the specter of a President Trump makes everything else irrelevant.

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    I hate to say it... (none / 0) (#75)
    by kdog on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 09:32:23 AM EST
    but Lying Donald actually made some good points in his speech....he's definitely after Bernie fans with some of his phrasing. "State Dept. as Hedge Fund"...sick burn.

    Let's hope my peeps don't decide to dance with the unpredictable narcissistic devil, and vote for the predictable devil who may still have good in her, or even somebody half decent.  

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    Lol (5.00 / 1) (#110)
    by TrevorBolder on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 04:17:00 PM EST
    True,

    But The Bern played with the kid gloves on,

    Until he realized he actually had a chance to win,

    It's a devils choice

    An idiot
    Or a career corrupt politician

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    Good (none / 0) (#76)
    by FlJoe on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 09:43:35 AM EST
    points to the reality challenged.

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    Good points... (none / 0) (#94)
    by kdog on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 12:41:50 PM EST
    was a bad choice of words...make that effective rhetoric and emotional manipulation from Trump yesterday.

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    True (none / 0) (#112)
    by FlJoe on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 04:43:33 PM EST
    that, the several Trumpster's I have encountered have been raving about it. The Donald really has no equal when it comes to tossing the red meat, being completely untethered from reality is a feature not a bug.

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    Yes, he does have a gift for a turn of phrase (none / 0) (#77)
    by ruffian on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 09:48:11 AM EST
    and taking a stray fact and connecting it to pure fiction. Much like Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh.

    Nice crowd to hang with...enjoy.

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    Not my crowd Pal... (none / 0) (#81)
    by kdog on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 10:24:39 AM EST
    just an observation that this rhetoric plays in many circles, and why a Clinton maybe wasn't the best choice to go against this freak.  

    I know you guys have no problem with the State Dept/Clinton Foundation/Foreign Cash/Speech Circuit square dance, but it gets other liberal peoples gander up. Particular liberals who got left behind during the third way economic policy years.

    My crowd will be at the house formerly known as Shea on Saturday...Dead and Co. brings the love to town.  I'll say hi to our buddy Bob Weir for ya!

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    its funny (5.00 / 2) (#82)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 10:39:34 AM EST
    one analysis i heard of that "speech" was that it will be successful in spite of all the crazy bullsh!t and out right lies it will be successful with some because the basic message was "I hate Hillary Clinton as much as you do"

    i guess you are living proof of that.

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    Hate is a strong word... (none / 0) (#84)
    by kdog on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 10:53:04 AM EST
    but I'd certainly prefer another president, you bet your arse.  

    I don't vote based on who hates who...I don't vote based on hate.  I'm the Love Man like Otis Redding.  

    It's Trump and Clinton playing the hate game...and I'm sorry to say it seems to work everytime.  Don't make the voter love you, just make them hate the other horse more than they hate you.

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    an A for talking points (none / 0) (#86)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 10:58:35 AM EST
    an incomplete for thoughtful analysis.

    you know what.  imo Trump is going to lose but if god forbid he somehow wins it will be because of people like you.  i would ask how you could live with that but I know you have all the Nader arguments down and it wont be a problem for you.

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    The Blame Game... (none / 0) (#87)
    by kdog on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 11:02:52 AM EST
    I'll blame the people who voted for Trump, but whatever makes your blood boil Brother.

    Say goodnight to the bad guy.  You think that makes you good?

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    Which "good points " (none / 0) (#80)
    by jbindc on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 10:02:02 AM EST
    Are you referring to?

    (The "State Department as a personal hedge fund" comment is a complete lie, so what else ya got?)

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    No such thing (none / 0) (#111)
    by TrevorBolder on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 04:20:45 PM EST
    As coincidence

    Rogue states with business before the State Department

    And direct payments to Bill Clinton

    And or the State Department

    The sad fact of it is, The Clintons do not care how it looks,
    Any, Any other politician planning on running for the Presidency would have avoided that.
    Clintons do not care

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    I hate to say it, (none / 0) (#90)
    by KeysDan on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 11:35:10 AM EST
    but even truth mixed in with lies is not convincing. But, I don't mind reminding that it is the hallmark of the demagogue.

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    Oh oh (none / 0) (#78)
    by FlJoe on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 09:56:13 AM EST
    Shooting at German cinema leaves 25 wounded, breaking news from CNN

    New reports (none / 0) (#85)
    by jbindc on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 10:56:08 AM EST
    None wounded.  Except the gunman - he's dead.

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    Breaking: (none / 0) (#79)
    by jbindc on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 09:59:42 AM EST
    Driver in Freddie Gray case acquitted on all counts.

    irresponsible (5.00 / 2) (#88)
    by The Addams Family on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 11:08:56 AM EST
    of CNN's  Andrew Carey, Michael Pearson, & Jim Sciutto to offer such a rash insinuation, since apparently nothing is yet known about the shooter's early childhood or cinematic preferences, or about whether the shooter might turn out to have been firing at current or former co-workers

    While the motive for Thursday's attack remains unclear, police have repeatedly warned that Germany could be targeted by ISIS. Germany absorbed more than 1 million refugees last year, and there have been concerns about the possibility of ISIS cells in the country.


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    Interesting bit at the end of (none / 0) (#116)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 06:09:48 PM EST
    No Self Respect or I Caint Get No Respect or whatever they call it.

    A guy wearing an almost cartoonishly large silver skull SS type ring.  On his middle finger right hand.  And he seemed to be trying to make sure it got on camera.  Or maybe I just noticed it because it was so big and out of context with the rest of his Brooks Brothers thang.

    Anyway, he was some kind of official for Trump at the convention who seems to be in charge of tamping down any possible "floor troubles". I'm paraphrasing but he said something like "we have a serious group of combat veterans and anyone who wants to cause trouble better bring an army"

    It was surreal.

    SUPREME DEADLOCK (none / 0) (#117)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 06:14:40 PM EST

    What did the Supreme Court decide?

    The court deadlocked, 4-4, in the case: United States v. Texas, No. 15-674. The stalemate was made possible by the empty seat left by Justice Antonin Scalia, who died in February.

    What does the stalemate mean?

    The deadlock was a sharp blow to Mr. Obama's ambitious plan, which he had hoped would become one of his lasting legacies. It also amplified the already-contentious election-year debate over immigration policy and presidential authority.



    The Hispanic vote (none / 0) (#118)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 06:15:32 PM EST
    Just increased a few percent

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    More email problems for Hillary (none / 0) (#119)
    by ragebot on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 06:48:46 PM EST
    The AP story (5.00 / 1) (#127)
    by mm on Fri Jun 24, 2016 at 05:55:25 AM EST
    calls it a "key email"

    In fact, the email wouldn't even meet the definition of a Federal Record.

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    the defense (none / 0) (#120)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 07:00:47 PM EST
    was in the article you selectively quoted if anyone wants to read past the first couple of paragraphs.

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    Is this defense (none / 0) (#121)
    by ragebot on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 07:40:32 PM EST
    you are talking about

    "Secretary Clinton had some emails with Huma that Huma did not have, and Huma had some emails with Secretary Clinton that Secretary Clinton did not have," Fallon said.

    Fallon declined to say whether Clinton deleted any work-related emails before they were reviewed by her legal team. Clinton's lead lawyer, David Kendall, did not respond to a request for comment Thursday.

    If not please post what you consider to be that defense.

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    you are good at selectively quoting (none / 0) (#122)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 23, 2016 at 08:01:02 PM EST
    i was not going to waste the bandwidth to blockquote from that but you win.  im goaded

    "While this exchange was not part of the approximately 55,000 pages provided to the State Department by former Secretary Clinton, the exchange was included within the set of documents Ms. Abedin provided the department in response to our March 2015 request," State Department spokesman John Kirby told The Associated Press on Thursday.

    Clinton campaign spokesman Brian Fallon said she provided "all potentially work-related emails" that were still in her possession when she received the 2014 request from the State Department.

    "Secretary Clinton had some emails with Huma that Huma did not have, and Huma had some emails with Secretary Clinton that Secretary Clinton did not have," Fallon said.

    so they missed one of more than 50,000 that was turned over by someone else.  help me to the faining couch

    and since we are blockquoting

    Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton said the November 2010 email cited in the inspector general audit was one of several work-related emails that his group identified that Clinton sent or received but later failed to turn over the State Department.

    David Kendall probably has more important things to do than respond to every hair on fire story the AP wants to write about what the clowns at Judicial Watch are doing today.

    ps

    if this is all you got all Hillary you have problems.  you really do.

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    That was always the fear (none / 0) (#126)
    by TrevorBolder on Fri Jun 24, 2016 at 05:22:41 AM EST
    The Blumenthal e mails were never turned over either,
    They were discovered by Guccifer when he hacked Blumenthal

    Well, if the Russians feel like Trump will be less interventionist than Clinton, you might be seeing a lot more of those deleted e mails

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    Yawn (none / 0) (#128)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jun 24, 2016 at 05:57:20 AM EST
    Waiting for Godot on an endless loop, some sufferers have suffered these terrible symptoms your decades. CDS is indeed a terrible thing.

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    Well (none / 0) (#130)
    by TrevorBolder on Fri Jun 24, 2016 at 06:08:58 AM EST
    The Russians have recently exhibited a desire to find the secrets of our political parties (Ask the DNC about their records being hacked by the Russians), and they have hinted at release of other Clinton e mails Also Guccifer 2.0

    No, its not CDS, it is just reading current news

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    Guccifer 2.0 (none / 0) (#131)
    by jbindc on Fri Jun 24, 2016 at 03:00:36 PM EST
    Allegedly said the emails showed that Clinton negotiated for and was paid a lot of money; that she wanted a plane to travel to the speech; that she wanted rooms for some of her staff (and of course, Secret Service). They also showed that the DNC was looking at all of this (presumably because HRC turned it over, ergo not hiding anything).

    So what?

    I thought conservatives idolized private citizens being able to employ their skills and get paid what the market will bear,  but I guess when it comes to HRC. That is unacceptable.

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    Those (none / 0) (#132)
    by TrevorBolder on Fri Jun 24, 2016 at 03:31:32 PM EST
    Were the teaser  e mails

    They always save the best for last,

    And time it for the most impact

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    Wonderful (none / 0) (#133)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 24, 2016 at 04:21:15 PM EST
    Hilarious and wonderful.    I love knowing that you live in hope of this.

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    not true (none / 0) (#129)
    by mm on Fri Jun 24, 2016 at 06:07:24 AM EST
    she forward those to the state department.

    They were turned over to the Benghazi committee before she even printed them out.

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