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When Trump Didn't Know What Brexit Was

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Elections 2016
Posted on Sun Jun 26, 2016 at 07:36:22 AM EST
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Hollywood Reporter:

"And Brexit? Your position?" I ask.

"Huh?"

"Brexit."

"Hmm."

"The Brits leaving the EU," I prompt, realizing that his lack of familiarity with one of the most pressing issues in Europe is for him no concern nor liability at all.

"Oh yeah, I think they should leave."

To my knowledge, this was Trump’s only statement on Brexit before the referendum. Now of course he sees himself as its inspiration and originator:

I guess he’s saying he said “they should leave” is his “correct call.” Interesting that.

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    He didn't even thank people for the congrats (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by ruffian on Sun Jun 26, 2016 at 11:30:11 AM EST
    on his correct call. Slipping.

    Watching Warren (5.00 / 2) (#26)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 10:01:30 AM EST
    Dissect Trump on stage with Hillary.   She is going to be our WDD (weapon of Donald destruction)

    At one point the takes a breath and say " you know I could do this all day right?"

    Who knows if she will be but she would be a killer VP.

    Bernie who?

    Let (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by FlJoe on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 07:21:32 PM EST
    pain commence Standard &
    Poor's stripped Britain of its last remaining top-notch credit rating, dropping it by two grades from "AAA" to "AA" and warning more downgrades could follow.

    Fitch Ratings also downgraded its ranking for Britain's creditworthiness by one notch, and similarly said more cuts could follow.

    To add insult to injury The English team got knocked out of the Euro by Iceland.

    There surely must  be a run on Gin and Prozac in London town tonight.

    Tell me... (none / 0) (#45)
    by gbrbsb on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 08:01:06 PM EST
    ... I'm living the pain since last Friday!

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    Or (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by Nemi on Tue Jun 28, 2016 at 06:08:18 AM EST
    as an English soccer spectator put it after the loss to Iceland on Monday: "How I feel? I've never felt this bad since ... since ... since Friday.

    I feel their/your pain. On both losses.

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    Interesting to see (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jun 26, 2016 at 07:40:16 AM EST
    How it plays out as it becomes the disaster most people seem to think it will be.

    It will proably become "I didn't even know what it was"

    He (2.00 / 1) (#2)
    by FlJoe on Sun Jun 26, 2016 at 10:27:32 AM EST
    did not know what it was last week, he does not know what is today and he will never know what it is.

    His bizarre(Nazi golf balls!) infomercial/press conference in Scotland even had the CNN stunned, when asked if he was consulting with his advisors about the ramifications of this he replied that "there is really nothing to talk about, it's great, I'm great, I'll make a few bucks and I'll beat Hillary, and let's get back to the real news of the day, the great Trump is opening the greatest golf course, greatness flows from my stubby fingers like manna from heaven". I paraphrase of course.

    WTF, can't he even hire someone to whip up some coherent talking points with even a modicum of gravitas and maybe just a hint of humility?

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    My favorite part of that (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jun 26, 2016 at 10:41:49 AM EST
    Was when the guy walked up and said "I have the balls you requested sir"

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    Plus he knows the Germans want (none / 0) (#14)
    by oculus on Sun Jun 26, 2016 at 02:04:09 PM EST
    out of the EU because the Germans who have the €€ to come to his clubs tell him do.

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    Under par. . . . (none / 0) (#31)
    by Towanda on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 12:04:44 PM EST
    A friend on FB posts that Trump's fondness for golf courses is entirely understandable, as only on golf courses is it a good thing to be so seriously under par.

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    And, Trump (none / 0) (#3)
    by KeysDan on Sun Jun 26, 2016 at 10:37:51 AM EST
    praised Scotland, while marketing his golf resort, for leaving the EU--Scotland overwhelming voted to remain.  But, they may yet get their country back.  

    But, it is good to remind ourselves, that Trump's ignorance of world events just endears him all the more to his supporters.  They know that government is not his field, nor, seemingly does he have much of an interest in it.  

    But, that is all to the good. Just as some of the supporters of leaving the EU claimed, in response to economists, we have had enough experts. And, elites.  Time, apparently, for Trump's favorite electoral cohort, the poorly educated, and other disgusting elements, to charge ahead.   TRUMP/trump 2016.

    The line I commented on (none / 0) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jun 26, 2016 at 10:45:39 AM EST
    In a thread yesterday about if the "pound goes down more people come to Scotkand"

    is in a new Hillary ad

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    In some new polls, (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by KeysDan on Sun Jun 26, 2016 at 10:59:17 AM EST
    Mrs. Clinton is ahead by double digits.
    (Note: for grammatical clarification of my above comment: ...poorly educated, and disgusting elements..)

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    One of those (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jun 26, 2016 at 11:07:47 AM EST
    the ABC poll

    Has a lot of interesting stuff.

    Almost 70% think he is not qualified to be president.  

    Maybe the most important Obama now has 56% approval.

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    But, Trump has (none / 0) (#15)
    by KeysDan on Sun Jun 26, 2016 at 03:00:48 PM EST
    James Dobson, head of "Focus on Family," the Colorado Springs group whose anti-gay activities are the cornerstone of its focus.

    Dobson said Trump is a "baby Christian," perhaps taking a cue from Little Marco's characterization of Trump's hand size.   Dobson said that Evangelicals need to "cut him some slack."  

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    The whole (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Jun 26, 2016 at 07:56:36 PM EST
    evangelical movement has been exposed as a hollowed out nothing, morally bereft except for espousing hatred it seems. Good riddance. They've been nothing but bad news for Christianity for far too long.

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    I (none / 0) (#21)
    by Repack Rider on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 02:01:03 AM EST
    ...would rather be right than bereft.

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    Yes, just (none / 0) (#25)
    by KeysDan on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 08:06:51 AM EST
    another right wing political activist group masquerading as something else.  

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    Methodolgy (none / 0) (#22)
    by Redbrow on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 02:07:42 AM EST
    50% more democrat responders than republican makes that ABC poll useles for anything other than propaganda.

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    Has it occurred to you that . . . (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by Towanda on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 12:08:27 PM EST
    . . . the poll could be revealing that Republicans, by picking Trump as their nominee, have created 50 percent more Democrats?

    For example, of five living First Ladies, all -- including Barbara and Laura Bush -- are voting for Hillary Clinton for president.

    Thanks, Drumpf.

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    Exactly - (none / 0) (#34)
    by ruffian on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 12:22:38 PM EST
    People failing to identify as Republicans is not a failure of methodology.

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    Funny, isn't it... (none / 0) (#27)
    by Repack Rider on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 11:01:19 AM EST
    ...that when Donald likes the polls, that's all he talks about.  Not whether they are "fair," but whether they support him.

    When the numbers plummet, and you would have to be blind, deaf, and living in the 19th Century not to notice that he is tanking YUUUGE, the polls are "biased."

    Democrats outnumber Republicans by a significant margin, and a poll would be suspect if it did not recognize that.  One reason is that Republicans are whiter and older than the population at large.  As they die off, there are no replacements being born.

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    What did I miss? (none / 0) (#19)
    by Redbrow on Sun Jun 26, 2016 at 11:49:03 PM EST
    Over a million Scots voted to leave.

    Brexit passed by a million votes.

    Trump prasied and congratulated them for their victory.

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    What did you miss? (5.00 / 3) (#23)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 03:15:05 AM EST
    The ball, for starters.

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    I reckon you may have missed this tweet... (none / 0) (#35)
    by gbrbsb on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 01:18:03 PM EST
    .. (report from Huff Post)

    Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump

    Just arrived in Scotland. Place is going wild over the vote. They took their country back, just like we will take America back. No games!

    10:21 AM - 24 Jun 2016
    18,053 18,053 Retweets   46,433 46,433 likes

    It was soon pointed out to Trump, who had already told reporters that Brexit was a "great thing", that 62% of Scots voted to Remain.

    As well as the very powerful speech by the leader of the SNP in the house of commons today, who said among other things:

    "We have no intention whatsoever of seeing Scotland taken out of Europe. That would be totally, totally unacceptable. We are a European country and we will stay a European country."


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    So? (none / 0) (#36)
    by Redbrow on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 02:00:00 PM EST
    It all checks out.

    Are you denying he just arrived in Scotland?

    Are you denyiing the million plus Scots who voted for brexit were celebrating their victory?

    Are you denying  the UK,, which includes Scotland (for all you low info morons out there) took there sovreignty back from unelected Brussels bureaucrats?

    It is pretty pathetic when you have to invent Trump scandals where there are none.

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    Yes, I'm denying (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by jbindc on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 03:07:38 PM EST
    That the UK "got it's sovereignty back"  they always had it and never lost it, ehich everyone knows. (Except for low information morons out there who thought other wise.) The European Communities Act of 1972 kept the UK Parliament sovereign, but recognized the binding nature of EU law on some things.  But Parliament could ALWAYS vote to repeal it anytime.

    And of course, the UK always had the right to run its own government, elect its own leaders, it had its own military, etc.

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    So... Why the insults... (none / 0) (#39)
    by gbrbsb on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 03:40:53 PM EST
    ... Perchance did I upset you because I certainly did not intend to.

    And in respect of the "all you low info morons out there" and the, "took there (actually it's "their") sovreignty (actually it's "sovereignty") back from unelected Brussels bureaucrats" (you managed to get that word right!), I say, hey, you really need to tone it down a bit because the referendum is over... finito... kaput... well at least for now... so no need to continue the vitriol and hate that plagued a campaign that was much more than bordering the xenophobic and racist and which not 2 weeks ago culminated in the assassination of a parliamentarian by a mentally ill white supremacist guy (aren't they all mentally sick?) with a diy gun, a knife and a battle cry of "Britain first".

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    Younstarted the snark (none / 0) (#42)
    by Redbrow on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 05:23:13 PM EST
    Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

    If criticizing my typing skills and grammar  is the best you got, that is pretty much admitting defeat.

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    Sorry, but I most certainly did not start... (none / 0) (#44)
    by gbrbsb on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 07:46:38 PM EST
    ... "the snark" which must surely have more to do with your sensitivities than my comment which was simply that, a comment. And I most certainly would never resort to calling a commenter "a moron", (which is a sign of weakness), not even for what I perceived as a snarky comment, but if I did I would not be at all surprised if the recipient corrected my spelling!

    As I said, you should maybe cool down a bit because this blog has always been one of the calm and civilised sites to drop in to and I for one really hope it continues that way.

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    This is so silly (none / 0) (#5)
    by NycNate on Sun Jun 26, 2016 at 10:45:37 AM EST
    buts let's say he didn't know about Brexit, guy has some luck to guess the right answer while the people that knew and opined on Brexit got it wrong.  

    To me, it just shows the tone deafness of Obama/Hillary. Here is a quote from Obama about immigrants. It is nearly the same statement that got Kelly Osbourne in hot water:

    "We're going to have to make a decision about whether we are a people who tolerate the hypocrisy of a system where the workers who pick our fruit or make our beds never have the chance to get right with the law..."

    Make out beds and pick our fruit is What he thinks/sees when it comes to immigrants.

    There is a difference between being wrong on the (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by ruffian on Sun Jun 26, 2016 at 11:36:18 AM EST
    question of whether leaving was a good idea and being wrong on predicting the outcome of the vote. Not sure which part of 'opining on Brexit' you are referring to.

    Obama's quote seems to be specific to a large number of the undocumented immigrants to the US.  I seriously doubt he thinks those encompass all immigrants the US.  

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    Obama and Hispanics. (none / 0) (#17)
    by NycNate on Sun Jun 26, 2016 at 04:53:36 PM EST
     
    Obama's quote seems to be specific to a large number of the undocumented immigrants to the US.

    When I think of Hispanic workers, construction and restaurant workers come to mind. Obama thinks hotel and farm workers. There is no right or wrong answer. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy that Kelly Osbourne said the same and faces no scrutiny.

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    Is Kelky Osbourne running for POTUS? (none / 0) (#38)
    by jbindc on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 03:08:29 PM EST


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    Are you serious? (5.00 / 3) (#16)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Jun 26, 2016 at 03:45:06 PM EST
    "No 'Big Brother' is required to deprive people of their autonomy, maturity and history. ... People will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies that undo their capacities to think."
    - Aldous Huxley (1894-1963), author and philosopher

    (Sigh!) I guess when you look at life through a lens that's akin to the bottom of a Coke bottle, nearly everything can be reduced to merely a matter of personal optics.

    To deign to compare President Obama's longstanding and detailed position on the subject of immigration reform with an honestly derived dingbat comment about the same from Ozzy Osbourne's daughter, as you've done here, is absolutely absurd.

    Only the most hopelessly superficial amongst us would set any great store by that professional celebrity's dimwitted take on immigration, or on anything else other than her favorite color of nail polish. Because last I heard, Kelly Osbourne is not shaping public policy in the West Wing or on Capitol Hill, or otherwise roaming the corridors of power at L.A. City Hall or the State Capitol in Sacramento.

    (Why anything the perpetually self-absorbed Ms. Osbourne says should even be considered remotely newsworthy by the media or anyone else, is another matter entirely that's worthy of its own separate discussion. Suffice to say in that regard, Aldous Huxley was right.)

    Look, reporters weren't querying Donald Trump for his opinion on the just-concluded Stanley Cup Finals. This wasn't a "Gotcha!" question. The then-pending Brexit referendum was only THE major policy issue involving our country's closest and most intimate major ally.

    And for a GOP presidential nominee like Trump to have never even heard of Brexit until that moment, well, the active level of obtuseness and ignorance on public display here is rather shocking, even for him. Once again, he's called into question his actual fitness for the office he's seeking. Anybody who'd support his candidacy has to have a truckload of rocks inside the skulls.

    Aloha.

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    I'm glad you think so (none / 0) (#7)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jun 26, 2016 at 10:46:31 AM EST


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    From the Guardian (none / 0) (#8)
    by NycNate on Sun Jun 26, 2016 at 10:50:47 AM EST

    He is one of the few international figures to come out in support of the United Kingdom leaving the European Union. In a May interview with Fox News, Trump explicitly linked continued British membership to concerns about "migration". He said: "I think the migration has been a horrible thing for Europe. A lot of that was pushed by the EU." Trump added: "I would say that they're better off without it, personally, but I'm not making that as a recommendation. Just my feeling."

    read here

    Katrina (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by FlJoe on Sun Jun 26, 2016 at 11:02:54 AM EST
    Pierson is creature straight out of Lewis Carrol, Jeffery Lord on the other hand is more Monty Python.

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    Maybe you (5.00 / 2) (#24)
    by jbindc on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 07:21:00 AM EST
    Like Trump, and apparently many "leave" voters,  do not know that Europe is in a population crisis.  Birthrates are down and many countries, including the UK (which I realize is not one country), have policies in place encouraging immigrants to come. Immigration is beneficial to economic growth, and has been especially so in the UK.

    The people had a massive con job pulled on them by ultraconservative Nigel Farage, and conservatives Boris Johnson and Prime Minister David Cameron.

    Think about this:  if this result was so great, why have we basically not seen nor heard much from Boris Johnson since the vote?  He's a pretty bombastic character.  Maybe because he knoes he actualky has a chance of being responsible for cleaning up the clusterf×#k that is to come.

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    Only more evidence that Trump (5.00 / 2) (#33)
    by Towanda on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 12:11:09 PM EST
    is ignorant.  Migration is not immigration.

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    Yep, one of the few... (none / 0) (#41)
    by gbrbsb on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 03:56:23 PM EST
    ... along with Marine Le Pen, Gert Wilders, and for sure Anders Breivik too!

    But I think its more than simply migration because its got ugly currents of racism and even against blacks and Asians who came  over from the colonies back in the 50s and 60s. They too are receiving plastic cards telling them to go home.

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    Sorry to spoil your propagand with facts (none / 0) (#20)
    by Redbrow on Sun Jun 26, 2016 at 11:54:20 PM EST
    But Trump commented on Brexit at least as early as March 2016.

     "I think maybe it's time, especially in light of what's happened, with the craziness that's going on with the migration, with people pouring in all over the place.

    "I think that Britain will end up separating from the EU, that's my opinion. I'm not endorsing it one way or the other but that's my opinion. I think a lot of people want to see that happen."

    You might want do a minimum of research before going off half-cocked next time.

    Brexit, Smexit. (none / 0) (#28)
    by KeysDan on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 11:14:02 AM EST
    Trump's campaign manager, Paul Manafort, stated on Meet the Press, that "the good thing is, we have a candidate who doesn't need to figure out what's gong on in order to say what he wants to do."  "a unique ability to make decisions on the fly."

    Now, there is where Manafort goes way too far.  Hardly unique.  George W. Bush looked into Vladimir Putin's eye and found him to be trustworthy, and got a sense of his soul.  And, of course, Bush felt his job was to lead not to read, and learn things. And, about decisions on the fly....start with picking Cheney, and go forward.  Or backwards.

    It is interesting (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 11:48:49 AM EST
    That Putin, Trump and the European Neo Nazi groups are the only ones happy about the BREXIT vote

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    And redbrow (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 11:50:55 AM EST


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    Thank you. Best afterthought ever! (none / 0) (#40)
    by gbrbsb on Mon Jun 27, 2016 at 03:45:57 PM EST


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    Good for her (none / 0) (#47)
    by Nemi on Tue Jun 28, 2016 at 02:19:40 PM EST
    Scottish MP Natalie McGarry publicly rebuffs Donald Trump fundraising plea.

    The plea is signed by Jr. who not only exposes his own stupidity and ignorance about foreign donations but also his apparent total lack of both manners and self-awareness, using the slur for Hillary Clinton, his dad is so fond of, in a letter exposing his and his dad's ... crookedness.

    Natalie McGarry's response on the other hand is world class.

    And it now appears (none / 0) (#48)
    by Nemi on Sat Jul 02, 2016 at 07:07:37 AM EST
    that the Trump Campaign's email list has been shared with a Trump SuperPAC:

    Just imagine the conversation: We've got our choice list of members of foreign governments emails. Get me some sharp lawyers and find an arm's length, pass legal muster way to get this list to our SuperPACs. Obviously the foreign parliamentarians are likely piled in with the AOL accounts of your grandpa who died in 2001 and a lot of other people who don't exist or aren't Americans. But the point is this: it seems extremely likely that this email list was put together by the Trump campaign. Now it seems to be in the hands of at least one Trump supporting SuperPac. Campaigns and SuperPACs are not allowed to coordinate. And there's nothing about this operation that gives any reason to believe they did this in a way to even try to make it pass legal muster.

    Besides: How does Donald Trump even expect foreign politicians to have any respect for him using - on top of everything else - a disrespectful, juvenile slur in reference to Hillary Clinton?

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