ISIS Takes Credit for MN Attack

By Jeralyn, Section War on Terror
Posted on Sun Sep 18, 2016 at 04:00:19 PM EST
Tags: ISIS, Minnesota (all tags)

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Amaq News Agency (associated with ISIS) claims an ISIS supporter is responsible for the knife attacks at a Minnesota mall:

Local news in Minnesota is identifying the attacker, who was killed, as Dahir Adan:

(no link due to auto-play video.) He is reportedly a Somali-American. His family has issued an apology. He was a college student with (as far as they know) no history of violence. He told his family he was going to the mall to buy an iPhone, and they don't know what happened after that. 8 or 9 people were injured at the mall, none with life-threatening injuries, and Adan was killed outside Macy's by an off-duty police officer. [More...]

It's very hard to follow ISIS now on Twitter because almost all of them have moved to Telegram. It's very hard to find mainstream media news without auto-play video, and since I click of as soon as I see there's a video, I don't have more to report right now.

Update: According to CBS News, the attacker asked shoppers if they were Muslim, and only stabbed those who were not.

CBS in Minneapolis says Adan was wearing a security officer's uniform (his family said he worked part time as a security guard.)

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The pattern of killing, rather than arresting (5.00 / 2) (#1)
by Peter G on Sun Sep 18, 2016 at 07:11:27 PM EST

(after disabling) suspects/perpetrators in violent criminal episodes is very disturbing to me. Even aside from the legalities, it plays into their fantasy of being soldiers in a war, rather than violent criminals.

What proof do you have to support (none / 0) (#2)
by Redbrow on Sun Sep 18, 2016 at 07:27:06 PM EST

You claim to know the mindset of the hero off-duty cop who stopped the knife intifada from continuing?

All acounts say it was a lawful shooting and the officer as well the public faced imminent threat of lethal force from the somali immigrant terrorist.


What in the world did you think I meant (5.00 / 1) (#3)
by Peter G on Sun Sep 18, 2016 at 07:40:42 PM EST

by "legalities aside"? You cannot challenge me on the lawfulness of the police action, as I purposely did not take a position on that, and instead raised a different question.


Peter I understood what (none / 0) (#4)
by Jeralyn on Sun Sep 18, 2016 at 08:09:52 PM EST

you meant and I agree with you


: Also, in my limited experience with interrogations (none / 0) (#12)
by NYShooter on Mon Sep 19, 2016 at 12:46:09 PM EST

I found it quite difficult questioning corpses.
No matter what technique I tried they simply refused to cooperate.

He Didn't Need to Kill Him? (none / 0) (#5)
by RickyJim on Sun Sep 18, 2016 at 09:00:33 PM EST

Please explain how the policeman could have better handled the threat from the attacker.


Please see my comment (none / 0) (#6)
by Peter G on Sun Sep 18, 2016 at 09:23:39 PM EST

#3. I do not accept putting words in my mouth.


To disable (none / 0) (#8)
by TrevorBolder on Mon Sep 19, 2016 at 05:56:00 AM EST

A armed assailant is difficult, and places the life of the the LEO at risk.
LEO's , unlike Hollywood, are not taught to aim for legs and arms. In high stress situations it is too easy to miss, even at 25, 30 feet. They are taught to aim for center body mass.

Armed with a knife I guess you could disable someone with tasers, but that is risky.

Perhaps many of these incidents are just suicide by cop, and yes, it furthers their goal of martyrdom , but no LEO will risk their life just to stop the assailants from achieving their dream.

it plays into their fantasy of being soldiers in a war, rather than violent criminals.

Despite you considering them violent criminals, they do consider themselves soldiers in a war, and we, innocent bystanders, are in their perceived war zone.


: Despite what some of these idiots (5.00 / 3) (#9)
by Peter G on Mon Sep 19, 2016 at 08:46:57 AM EST

may believe about a "war," I do not agree with them. And more important -- and luckily for the future of a free and democratic system in this country -- neither does our legal structure. Thus, our police must not go to war with them, but rather must treat them as criminal suspects.

: Yes, police work is difficult and dangerous (5.00 / 1) (#11)
by Peter G on Mon Sep 19, 2016 at 11:43:40 AM EST

No doubt about it. I admire those who do it well, when they stay within the rules of law that govern their conduct, which exist for the protection of our mutual liberty. It is no coincidence that of the 30 separate rights mentioned in the first eight "articles" of the Bill of Rights (the Ninth and Tenth Amendments state general principles of our constitutional philosophy), 18 of them are specifically rights of suspected or accused criminals, that is, limitations on the criminal enforcement powers of the government, including the police, prosecutors, judges and jailors. And another seven of the 30 rights mentioned in the Bill of Rights, although not specific to criminal law enforcement, are applicable as limitations in criminal cases, for a grand total of 25 out of 30 rights in the Bill of Rights being restrictions on government power to enforce the criminal law, suggesting that such rights were viewed by the Framers as absolutely fundamental to a free society. Even when it is difficult and dangerous.

Yes, I wonder about it too. (none / 0) (#10)
by ruffian on Mon Sep 19, 2016 at 09:05:16 AM EST

I hope more comes out about the circumstances and what other options may have been available. I would rather see this guy alive so we could possibly learn something about how people like him get induced to commit such acts, assuming he was not mentally unstable in other ways.


fwiw (none / 0) (#13)
by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Sep 19, 2016 at 01:21:08 PM EST

The officer who killed the suspect was identified as Jason Falconer, a former police chief in nearby Albany.
"The officer's life was clearly in danger," Kleis said, pointing to surveillance video that shows the officer shooting and the suspect falling and getting back up three times, at one point lunging toward Falconer.

He is also a skilled USPSA shooter (none / 0) (#15)
by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Mon Sep 19, 2016 at 08:05:21 PM EST

I have shot with at the Saint Cloud USPSA club. The guy is quite proficient with a hand gun.

We can all be thankful that someone was there with an appropriate tool for stopping the stabber.


Not to mention thankful ... (none / 0) (#16)
by Yman on Mon Sep 19, 2016 at 09:33:40 PM EST

... that Adan didn't have the most commonly-used, "appropriate tool" for killing.


Not sure MVA instruments would have been (none / 0) (#17)
by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Sep 19, 2016 at 10:18:03 PM EST

very useful in this situation.


Not sure what you're geting at (none / 0) (#18)
by Yman on Mon Sep 19, 2016 at 10:34:13 PM EST

Was that an attempt at a joke?


Sounds like he's saying (none / 0) (#25)
by jondee on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 11:12:10 AM EST

that if you support a woman's right to choose, but don't support selling AK-47S to anyone with a pulse, you're a hypocrite.


: Ahhhh hah, so he's trying to equate (none / 0) (#27)
by Yman on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 11:24:38 AM EST

... abortions with "killings".
That's a seriously bad joke.

Yes (none / 0) (#19)
by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 07:31:40 AM EST

Sarin gas could have killed everyone in the mall.


So you think sarin gas ... (none / 0) (#20)
by Yman on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 09:02:33 AM EST

... is "the most commonly-used, "appropriate tool" for killing".

Heh.


I do belive (none / 0) (#21)
by FlJoe on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 09:34:57 AM EST

that some(most?) of these deplorables are not so secretly hoping for mass casualty attacks, just so they can strut their stuff.


Projection (none / 0) (#22)
by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 10:12:48 AM EST

It seems it's leftys that are moral preening after a mass casualty event.


: And (none / 0) (#23)
by FlJoe on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 10:33:15 AM EST

it's always the righties who are willing to shred the constitution at the drop of a hat. Cowardly deplorables who long for a big daddy tyrant to make their chickensht selves feel safe.

: So Trump's a "lefty"? (none / 0) (#24)
by Yman on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 10:59:35 AM EST

Trump gets self-congratulatory after Orlando mass shooting
Heh.
Someone is projecting, alright ...

Strutting their stuff.. (none / 0) (#26)
by jondee on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 11:18:28 AM EST

and crowing in triumph after a homicidal maniac is shot after taking out eight or nine innocent people instead of the twenty or thirty he could have killed..


Aren't you worried about the banning (none / 0) (#28)
by jondee on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 11:38:25 AM EST

of the possession of sarin gas becoming a slippery slope?

The first step toward the totalitarian nanny state banning all household chemicals? Think about it.

Or, if a patriotic small government conservative who's carved out a homestead in the wilderness, needs for example, a flamethrower, to start controlled brush fires, or to stage Guadalcanal reenactments, why shouldn't he have that right?


Also, Mahatten bomber disabled and arrested... (none / 0) (#14)
by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Sep 19, 2016 at 01:26:16 PM EST

...after shooting at least two officers.


i'm glad (none / 0) (#7)
by linea on Sun Sep 18, 2016 at 09:59:16 PM EST

we have police to protect us from dangerous criminals and [imported] terrorists and i'm glad the no one died from the stabbings.

You can be unconcious 15 seconds (none / 0) (#29)
by Mr Natural on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 12:21:08 PM EST

after a major artery is severed by a well directed knife. Your death would follow quickly.

Those nine people were very lucky.