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Mexico Cancels President's Trip to White House

By Jeralyn, Section Trump Administration
Posted on Thu Jan 26, 2017 at 05:29:44 PM EST
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Donald Trump sure knows how to make a mess of things. Mexican President Enrique Pena-Nieto has canceled his trip to the White House where they were going to have talks about trade.

It's amateur hour at the Trump White House. Earlier they suggested a tax for imports to fund the wall. Now, they are backtracking.

Donald Trump needs a muzzle so he can stop outraging the world with his outlandish, ill-considered comments. He has the temperment and self-discipline of a 5 year old. I have work to do, I can't be checking the news every 10 minutes to see his latest buffoonery.

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    What a disaster (5.00 / 5) (#1)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Jan 26, 2017 at 05:49:37 PM EST
    this all has been. I really could not have imagined things would go this bad this quick. I figured it would take at least a couple of months.

    I have the under in the betting pool (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by Repack Rider on Thu Jan 26, 2017 at 09:28:34 PM EST
    Stupidity and dishonesty coupled with deep character flaws argue for a quick crack-up.

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    Needlessly picking a fight with Mexico ... (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Jan 26, 2017 at 10:02:22 PM EST
    ... for provocation's own sake has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever seen a president do. This exercise in presidential ego could easily turn out very badly for us, if some adults don't stand up here and set the kids straight. From a diplomatic standpoint, today's events have been nothing short of an utter disaster.

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    That's the crux (none / 0) (#8)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 06:15:11 AM EST
    of the problem. The Republican party is basically composed of 13 year old boys. And the asylum is being run by 13 year old boys. So there we are.

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    I would not be (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by MKS on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 11:07:47 AM EST
    surprised if Trump nukes somebody just to teach him a lesson.  Maybe a baby tactical nuke on some part of Mexico--where he thinks the drug lords are.....Not so far fetched.

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    Very far fetched (none / 0) (#20)
    by BTAL on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 05:01:00 PM EST
    and nowhere near reality.

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    You (5.00 / 2) (#22)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 05:28:13 PM EST
    could say the entire Trump phenomenon is far fetched, and rather untethered from reality.

    Personally I think Trump would have no problem nuking someone, 9 terrifying things Donald Trump has publicly said about nuclear weapons
     but I think we are safe as long as there are sane adults such as Mattis between him and the weapons.

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    While I don't disagree (5.00 / 2) (#26)
    by NYShooter on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 07:40:50 PM EST
    with your characterization regarding Trump's flippant ideas regarding the possible use of "nukes," your link helped me understand why I swore off watching Chris Matthews, forever.
    Check out how many times he asks a question, then cuts off the respondent's attempted response as soon as he begins trying to answer it.

    But, if your point is that Trump is unstable, maybe mentally so, I'd say, no. A guy doesn't go 70 years, doing all the things we know he did, and being mentally unstable at the same time.  I think it's worse than that; we may just have a pathological sociopath as President of the United States.

    At the rate he's going I believe he'll be impeached (with plenty of Republican help,) hopefully, before we get to see if he was serious about using those "nukes."  

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    Why did you wait so long? (none / 0) (#30)
    by Repack Rider on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 10:13:29 PM EST
    I swore off watching Chris Matthews, forever.

    I swore him off 15 years ago because he is a right-wing shill, and like all such he is a moron.  Why didn't the fact that he is a moron enter into your decision?

    However, the interruptive behavior you described is what made Bill O'Reilly famous, even though if anything he is worse than Matthews.

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    I agree (none / 0) (#25)
    by TrevorBolder on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 07:22:17 PM EST
    Going after the drug lords is something The Donald would consider, and he would want to confiscate their bank accounts as well.

    But he would do it tactically, with a Seal and military team

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    How much better is that really? (none / 0) (#27)
    by MKS on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 08:03:51 PM EST
    It is an Act of War on Mexican soil.  But, yep, he could do it.

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    In June 2015 (none / 0) (#28)
    by TrevorBolder on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 08:21:37 PM EST
    CNN)A U.S. Customs and Border Protection helicopter was forced to make an emergency landing in Texas after it was struck by gunfire from the Mexican side of the border Friday.

    Laredo Police were called by border patrol, who said "one of their helicopters had received gunfire," said police spokesman Joe Baeza.
    The helicopter was flying over an area notorious for illegal border crossings and narcotics smuggling.
    "Our helicopter actually landed in Laredo and there were no injuries," the U.S. Customs and Border Protection said.

    Now, The Donald just might react to something like this happening, just saying.....

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    He does nothing (none / 0) (#29)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 08:51:10 PM EST
    tactically. He's like a bull in a china shop.

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    Already, I'm (5.00 / 4) (#17)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 01:52:03 PM EST
    tired of winning...its too much winning, I can't take it.  

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    You'll take it and you'll like it, Mister! (5.00 / 4) (#19)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 04:08:48 PM EST
    Do you think we're so special that things can't possibly get any worse? Well, President* Trump will show you otherwise! How about a White House statement commemorating International Holocaust Remembrance Day, which doesn't even offer a single acknowledgement of the Nazis' Jewish victims?

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    Those victims (none / 0) (#24)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 07:02:06 PM EST
    are not important in the white nationalist movement. Does not surprise me that they were left off and probably deliberately.

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    UPDATE: Oy. Say, can you see? (none / 0) (#44)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Jan 29, 2017 at 03:34:56 PM EST
    Per Josh Marshall at Talking Points Memo:

    "The White House announced today that the decision not to mention Jews or anti-Semitism in its announcement commemorating Holocaust remembrance day was intentional. According to White House spokeswoman Hope Hicks, the statement made no mentions of Jews out of respect for the non-Jews who died in Nazi labor camps and death camps during World War II. Hicks told CNN: 'Despite what the media reports, we are an incredibly inclusive group and we took into account all of those who suffered.'"

    We are crashing headlong through Alice's looking glass, only to find Fellini's "Satyricon" and Frankenheimer's "The Manchurian Candidate" awaiting our arrival on the other side.

    I hate to think where this is going.

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    Heh - that was just his accent (none / 0) (#18)
    by Yman on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 02:29:06 PM EST
    "You'll say, 'Please, please, it's too much winning. We can't take it anymore. Mr. President, it's too much.' And I'll say, 'No it isn't!'"

    What he was actually saying was "whining".

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    Has it only been a week? (none / 0) (#33)
    by desertswine on Sat Jan 28, 2017 at 12:00:09 PM EST
    It seems like it's sure been a quick descent into madness.

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    if i were the president of mexico, i'd (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by cpinva on Thu Jan 26, 2017 at 09:15:49 PM EST
    start construction on a border wall, to keep Trump and his sleazy minions out.

    And meanwhile, inside our own borders: (5.00 / 2) (#5)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Jan 26, 2017 at 10:23:39 PM EST
    Los Angeles Times | January 26, 2017
    Trump vs. California: The feud turns from rhetorical to real - "Between his executive orders on immigration and the investigation he wants into voter fraud, President Trump had a clear target on Wednesday: California. The state was one of two singled out as a focus of the vote fraud investigation stemming from Trump's belief that he lost the popular vote due to 'illegals' taking part in November's election. California also was the unnamed center of Trump's announcement of plans to tighten immigration rules and punish jurisdictions that offer sanctuary to those without proper papers -- penalties that in California could rise to millions or billions of dollars. The new president's moves came one day after Gov. Jerry Brown used his State of the State speech to challenge Trump's presidency and assert that California intended to go its own way." (Emphasis is mine.)

    Following Gov. Brown's hard line on the unfolding events in Washington, Trump advisor Steve Bannon accused California of being "an ally of Mexico." So now Trump wants to investigate California for non-existent voter fraud, and is threatening to withhold federal revenues to the state if it doesn't acquiesce to his immigration policies.

    This guy is nuckin' futz.

    i posted (none / 0) (#6)
    by linea on Thu Jan 26, 2017 at 10:40:06 PM EST
    on sanctuary cities in the Tuesday Open Thread in the hopes of starting a dialog on the topic. i feel my post is well-written and i cite the actual seattle statute.

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    CA legislators call out Trump immigration policy: (none / 0) (#7)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 02:35:37 AM EST
    Los Angeles Times | January 17, 2017
    California lawmakers make full-throated promise of legislative and legal action against Trump's immigration orders - "California state leaders denounced President Trump's executive immigration orders on Wednesday, saying the actions would pose a threat to public safety, waste taxpayer dollars and tear at the fabric of the country. The directives, which seek to temporarily stop the U.S. refugee program and suspend some visas, curb funding for cities that provide protections for immigrants, and order the construction of a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, are expected to be met with forceful legislative and legal resistance in California."

    Bills filed by state lawmakers in Sacramento so far this session would:

    • Provide legal aid to immigrants in the country illegally;
    • Refuse assistance to any proposed registry of Muslim immigrants; and
    • Require any portion of a proposed wall along California's southern border that exceeds a cost of $1 billion to first be approved by California voters.

    Aloha.

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    Bye bye (none / 0) (#9)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 06:24:04 AM EST
    Darrel Issa. He didn't win by much last November and Trump and Bannon are writing his political death certificate.

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    Issa is my guy (none / 0) (#10)
    by MKS on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 11:05:10 AM EST
    He represents me--and I think Oculus.  And he won by 1500 whopping votes.  Colonel Bill Applegate almost got him last time and has announced another run.

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    Bring it on (none / 0) (#38)
    by BackFromOhio on Sat Jan 28, 2017 at 09:19:01 PM EST
    If it weren't so costly, I'd love to see an audit of CA votes. The state has state of the art machines and a set of rules that militate against vote tampering, based on sophisticated understanding of how the technology can be misued to alter votes.  

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    The 25th Amendment (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by MKS on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 11:12:04 AM EST
    If the VP and a majority of the Cabinet decided the President is incapacitated, then the VP takes over.

    No need for Impeachment.  Just Shazam! No more President.

    yeah, good (none / 0) (#13)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 12:09:10 PM EST
    luck with that one. Trump would probably fight it to the supreme court and I'm not sure even a majority of the cabinet would agree. Trump has too many Putin stooges and Neo confederates in his cabinet that I'm not sure they could get a majority.

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    Hopefully, before they... (none / 0) (#14)
    by desertswine on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 12:41:23 PM EST
    engineer us into a war, with Russia, against China.

    London: Donald Trump may prove "deeply dangerous" for the rest of the world if confronted militarily, says the UK's recently retired commander of the joint forces.

    General Sir Richard Barrons said President Trump had inherited a "win-lose" attitude from the business world and his military and political advisors might not be able to pull him back from doing something "mad" that would provoke a war.

    The warning came a day after the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists moved its 'Doomsday Clock' 30 seconds closer to midnight, in response to Mr Trump's statements on climate change, expanding the US nuclear arsenal and the questioning of intelligence agencies.

    It is the closest the clock has been to midnight in more than 60 years, since the hydrogen bomb tests by the US and USSR.
    l



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    As wonderful as "No More President"... (none / 0) (#15)
    by kdog on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 12:41:25 PM EST
    sounds, (No Tsar! No President! No King!), all that means is President Chump is replaced by President Pence.

    We may be better off with the unashamed and open lunatic than the closeted polished lunatic.

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    Yep (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by jondee on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 01:44:49 PM EST
    as soon as you vote of them in, you get the whole clown car.

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    Pence is a definite and (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by desertswine on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 05:26:08 PM EST
    an insidious threat.  And he's really, really creepy.

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    Pence is more of known quatity (4.00 / 1) (#23)
    by MKS on Fri Jan 27, 2017 at 06:51:24 PM EST
    I am reasonably confidant he would not nuke a Mexican city to show who's boss.

    He would take the standard issue conservative approach.   That in some ways is easier to deal with than just outright crazy.

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    All these stories involving Trump (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by fishcamp on Sat Jan 28, 2017 at 09:00:01 AM EST
    remind me of a bad WWll spy novel.  I read them and then hate myself for reading  that kind of crap.

    Have you tried Furst? (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by MKS on Sat Jan 28, 2017 at 09:59:15 AM EST


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    When I see Trump now, I think of Henry Fonda ... (none / 0) (#34)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Jan 28, 2017 at 02:12:41 PM EST
    ... as Frank in Sergio Leone's Once Upon a Time in the West. "Now that you've called me by name."

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    Protesters turned away by a wall of riot-clad (5.00 / 4) (#35)
    by Peter G on Sat Jan 28, 2017 at 07:53:30 PM EST
    cops at JFK airport (according to our daughter and son-in-law who were there), and then for some reason mass transit to and from the airport was shut down. Taxi drivers at JFK (mostly Middle-Eastern themselves) staged a one-hour work stoppage to express solidarity. Emergency lawsuit (habeas corpus) pulled together overnight by law students at Yale and the national ACLU office apparently being heard this evening in federal court in Brooklyn (which has jurisdiction over JFK). One Syrian family returned to Qatar from Philadelphia airport this morning turned out to be Christians. Rally tonight at PHL includes the Mayor, Phila Congressional Rep. Brady and U.S. Senator Casey, who are trying to intervene. ACLU lawyers have gotten inside to try to help. Same story at other airports, I hear. I think this sh*tst*rm is going to blow up badly in Tr*mp's face.

    Nationwide stay of removals GRANTED (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by Peter G on Sat Jan 28, 2017 at 08:17:33 PM EST
    on ACLU lawsuit by federal judge in Brooklyn. Does not necessarily release anyone from detention, however.

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    Judge has also ordered CBP to give (5.00 / 3) (#37)
    by Peter G on Sat Jan 28, 2017 at 08:46:59 PM EST
    the ACLU a complete list of airport detainees' names and to allow access to counsel. Hearing on the case to be held in late February. Judge is an Obama appointee who was a prosecutor in NYC for 25 years.

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    The examples you cite (none / 0) (#42)
    by NYShooter on Sun Jan 29, 2017 at 02:20:02 AM EST
    are symptomatic of why I predicted Trump would not finish out his term in office. Resignation, or impeachment, I believe, are highly possible, if not probable, epitaphs for an abbreviated Presidential term.

    Very early in my business career a wise old veteran told me to memorize this, IMO, prophetic axiom, "In business you can tell'em, but, to be successful you have to learn how to sell'em." My guess is that Trump either doesn't understand this, or, simply refuses to accept it.

    The inability to "play nice" with others is one reason his business career fell far short of where it could/should have been, considering the millions he inherited to begin with. I, fervently believe it will also prove fatal to any hope he may have of enjoying a successful term in office.


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    Recruiting for ISIS (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by BackFromOhio on Sat Jan 28, 2017 at 09:24:38 PM EST
    by the Drumpf admin -- I understand one of the individuals barred from entering the country was  seeking political asylum because, as a translator who helped the U.S., he is a target. I also understand the half-baked, poorly thought out executive orders are the work of Bannon. The Russians aren't the only ones with leverage over Drumpf.  

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    Trump doesn't care about blowback. (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by Chuck0 on Sat Jan 28, 2017 at 09:36:27 PM EST
    As evidenced by his comments. Time to rise up folks. This isn't going to be fixed with lawsuits and calls to your congress critter,

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    No, he does (none / 0) (#41)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Jan 28, 2017 at 11:43:58 PM EST
    not. However one of these days all this blow back is going to land smack in the face of the entire GOP.

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    Yup (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Jan 30, 2017 at 06:28:00 AM EST
    But it was their hyper partisan no governance bullshit that got us here too. They bought and paid for a President Trump.

    A malignant narcissist like Trump does not care about blowback. It's attention, and for him there is no negative attention, just attention.

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    They're between a rock and hard place (none / 0) (#43)
    by jondee on Sun Jan 29, 2017 at 11:56:34 AM EST
    lining up behind Trump will wind up being a black mark on them, and handing out the daggers in a vote of no confidence, as it were, will be a pr disaster for the GOP.

    The trouble is, the folks who supported Trump out of desperation will, I think, still be susceptible to the next demagogue, because the Right has gone all in for a marketing strategy based on fear-mongering and irrationality; fed by talk radio-isms, paranoid NRA-isms, racial dog whistling, conspiracy theories, and apocalyptic religion.

    When their very own President, their "voice of calm and reason", is legitimizing wild conspiracy theories, where do they have to go from here?

    The country has wandered into a strange territory.

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    We can only hope (none / 0) (#47)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Jan 30, 2017 at 06:29:41 AM EST
    We earn the House and Senate back. I think that is our only hope now.

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    Our only hope (none / 0) (#48)
    by jondee on Mon Jan 30, 2017 at 09:01:44 AM EST
    is a much more evolved alien race seeding the water supply.

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    Hey, maybe they can get (none / 0) (#49)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Jan 30, 2017 at 12:17:37 PM EST
    Rid of the viper problem in the White House

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    Trump is never going to care about (none / 0) (#45)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Jan 29, 2017 at 11:38:35 PM EST
    Blowback either. Never

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