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Posted on Sat Oct 07, 2017 at 04:52:59 PM EST
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Trump's latest tweet about North Korea is causing a fuss:

President Donald Trump on Saturday lamented decades of "failed" foreign policy with North Korea, saying "only one thing" will work.

"Presidents and their administrations have been talking to North Korea for 25 years, agreements made and massive amounts of money paid ... hasn't worked, agreements violated before the ink was dry, makings fools of U.S. negotiators. Sorry, but only one thing will work!," Trump wrote on Twitter.

There is a lot of media speculation that John Kelly will be resigning and leaving the Trump Administration. This is very disconcerting to many because it leaves no one to babysit the man with the desk in the Oval Office.

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    The GOP (5.00 / 3) (#1)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Oct 07, 2017 at 05:05:34 PM EST
    could do something about this but they will not. Gotta get those tax cuts for millionaires through before the world ends or something.

    It looks like Senator Corker (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Oct 08, 2017 at 02:59:27 PM EST
    Might "do something".

    It appears what he might do is run against Trump in 20.

    Or actually just RUN in 20.  Trump may or may not be a factor.

    I'm thinking not.

    After Donald Trump issued a fierce Twitter rebuke of Bob Corker, the retiring Republican senator tweeted back: "It's a shame the White House has become an adult day care center. Someone obviously missed their shift this morning."


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    Past time for (none / 0) (#8)
    by KeysDan on Sun Oct 08, 2017 at 05:42:44 PM EST
    someone to do something.  Tillerson, Secretary of State, has assessed Trump as a moron.  Corker (R. TN) and chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, has claimed that Cabinet officers such as Mattis and Kelly, separate the country from chaos; and, then today, finds it a "shame" that we are governed by morons that are childish.  

    Maybe, when the Republicans get their tax cuts for the rich under their belt, they can, for once, think about the country.  And, it may not be as hard as thought: Pence has shown, at his staged protest at the Colt's game, that we can make them go away by taking a knee.  

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    As far as Tillerson calling Trump a moron, (5.00 / 2) (#11)
    by Anne on Sun Oct 08, 2017 at 08:49:59 PM EST
    the only thing I have to say is that it takes one to know one.

    Seriously, Tillerson may have a better demeanor, he may exhibit more maturity, and narcissism may not be his dominant personality trait, but that doesn't make Tillerson smart.  

    As near as I can tell, if they hold moron meetings, the Trump Administration never has to worry about having a quorum.

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    Tillerson is his own (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by KeysDan on Sun Oct 08, 2017 at 11:16:48 PM EST
    brand of moron.   Diplomats are told not to speak directly to him and do not make eye contact.  Hard to negotiate if the parties can't see eye to eye on matters.  Max Boot, the conservative foreign affairs writer has assessed Rex as being the worst Secretary of State in 100 years.  Some might take it back even further....maybe even, Donald j. Trump, moron.

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    Anne, I can't believe I have to remind you of (none / 0) (#13)
    by vml68 on Sun Oct 08, 2017 at 10:11:59 PM EST
    all people on the importance of accuracy. Tillerson did not call Tr*mp a moron, he called him a f*cking moron :-)!

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    I'm doubting the tax cuts (none / 0) (#9)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Oct 08, 2017 at 05:52:09 PM EST
    It really seems the dissing of Trump by almost everyone is getting more common and more overt.

    I think it's possible the dissers, like Corner,  know stuff we don't.  

    This feels well past the midpoint to me.

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    Btw (none / 0) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Oct 08, 2017 at 06:08:12 PM EST
    Corker has already said if the "tax plan" adds one dollar to the debt he will not support it.

    No doubt thats at least part of the reason for the Corker Twitter attack.

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    UnCorked (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Oct 09, 2017 at 07:05:23 AM EST
    Fully uncorked, Corker then called a New York Times reporter to say that Trump's reckless threats toward other countries could set the nation "on the path to World War III." "He concerns me. He would have to concern anyone who cares about our nation," the chairman said during a 25-minute interview with Jonathan Martin. "I know for a fact that every single day at the White House, it's a situation of trying to contain him."

    Corker said that his concerns about Trump's ability to govern are shared by nearly every Republican in the Senate. "Look, except for a few people, the vast majority of our caucus understands what we're dealing with here," he told the Times. "Of course they understand the volatility that we're dealing with and the tremendous amount of work that it takes by people around him to keep him in the middle of the road."

    Corker called Trump "a reality show" president last night, telling the Times that he acts "like he's doing `The Apprentice' or something."

    "A lot of people think that there is some kind of `good cop, bad cop' act underway, but that's just not true," Corker told the Times. "I know he has hurt, in several instances, he's hurt us as it relates to negotiations that were underway by tweeting things out."

    NYTimes

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    Be nice (none / 0) (#18)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Oct 09, 2017 at 08:46:47 AM EST
    if more of them spoke out but maybe Corker has been "approved" to put it out there by other Republicans.

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    I don't think approval (none / 0) (#19)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Oct 09, 2017 at 09:14:41 AM EST
    Has anything to do with it. He is not running for re-election.  It's not rocket science.

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    OTOH (none / 0) (#25)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Oct 09, 2017 at 06:28:29 PM EST
    After saying approval had nothing to do with it,  he did not just speak for himself.  He said they "all know what they are dealing with"

    There has not really been a stampede to deny this from R senators.  When asked on camera today Mitch not only did absolutely nothing to walk back Corkers comments he actually had nothing but good things to say about Corker.

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    Corker was a huge Trump supporter (none / 0) (#20)
    by caseyOR on Mon Oct 09, 2017 at 10:57:11 AM EST
    during the election. He has voted with Trump nearly 90% of the time. So, right now it is all just talk.

    Corker chairs a very powerful committee. Will he start putting his money where his mouth is?

    I await so real action from Corker, not just a twitter feud with Trump.

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    I do not personally think (none / 0) (#21)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Oct 09, 2017 at 03:12:50 PM EST
    Yet another congressional hearing allowing Trump supporters to further muddy the water would be particularly helpful.  I suspect he might agree.

    I am not particularly a Corker fan or booster.

    He is telling the truth.  And he has position and credibility.  And as I pointed out IMO he is almost certainly doing it for personal professional reasons.

    Ill take it.  

    We are all in a holding pattern while Mueller brings it all in.  WHEN he does Corker will be a powerful voice.  As will all the other rats crawling over each other to abandon the ship.

    Ill take them too.

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    I am under the impression (none / 0) (#28)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Oct 10, 2017 at 02:59:46 PM EST
    That Mattis has to agree for nukes to launch. He can always be fired though and his deputy used. Would deputies be versed in the process though? If the deputy had to also be fired for refusing would the next deputy in line be versed in the procedures?

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    No, the pResident (none / 0) (#30)
    by leap on Tue Oct 10, 2017 at 04:50:40 PM EST
    has the last and absolute command on nuclear launches, according to this piece on RadioLab. DefSec cannot override, nor can CoS or SecState, etc. For reasons Nixon and Drumphth, people are agitating to change this, back to Congress.

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    I thought the SecDef is part (none / 0) (#31)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Oct 10, 2017 at 05:05:46 PM EST
    Of the launch though, separate codes delivered every day.

    Not saying SecDef can override, but just not play their part.

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    Yes, I just looked it up (none / 0) (#32)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Oct 10, 2017 at 05:13:15 PM EST
    The two man rule. The SecDef verifies and is part of the launch.

    I don't want to reassure anyone either but, our current stack of generals when they thought Clinton was going to be President spent significant time at a symposium discussing how without a new AUMF they thought a lot of the orders a President Clinton might give them might not be legal orders, and they had structural plans on how to tell her no.

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    Seriously? The generals (none / 0) (#33)
    by caseyOR on Tue Oct 10, 2017 at 07:04:58 PM EST
    were plotting ways to hobble Hillary if she won? What the f*ck!

    So, a rational and well- informed, but female president must be stopped, but demented ill-informed impulsive , but male president Trump- no plans.

    Geezus.

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    I was offended when I read reports (none / 0) (#34)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Oct 11, 2017 at 04:32:38 AM EST
    Of what they discussed at the symposium, mostly because Bush and Obama somehow were trusted.

    It is true though that the existing AUMF should not be allowed to keep us at perpetual war. I'd like to think it was genuine timing and legal concerns and not misogyny.

    It doesn't appear Trump has been hindered by AUMF concerns though.

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    It sounds like on CNN top advisors are concerned (none / 0) (#38)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Oct 12, 2017 at 07:52:01 AM EST
    About President's mental state. Chief of Staff John Kelly is miserable. I know Panetta is on Kelly's speed dial. I sort of figured they were continuing to develop some legal framework for disobeying "illegal" orders. And discussion of the outdated AUMF has returned.

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    I honestly don't know why Corker is (none / 0) (#26)
    by Anne on Mon Oct 09, 2017 at 09:24:20 PM EST
    getting such acclamation; Charlie Pierce has this to say about Corker's sharing responsibility for Trumpism:

    Bob Corker thought that Scott Pruitt was just the man for the job.

    Bob Corker also voted in favor of making a discreet racist the Attorney General, for putting a grifter at the head of Health and Human Services, and for putting unqualified buffoons at the head of the Departments of Education and Housing And Urban Development. Bob Corker was altogether fine with stiffing Merrick Garland for a year in order to hijack a Supreme Court seat for Neil Gorsuch who, apparently, even John Roberts can't stand. It was cool with Bob Corker, several times, if millions of Americans lost their healthcare and if even the surviving restrictions on Wall Street brigandage and campaign finance went up in smoke. Bob Corker voted with the administration 88 percent of the time. And as Alec MacGillis pointed out on the electric Twitter machine, Bob Corker stepped in and monkeywrenched a union drive at an automobile plant in Tennessee.

    Bob Corker helped get Trump elected. He auditioned to be a member of Trump's Cabinet.  As Pierce says, Corker voted for Trump's nominees.  He voted to take health care away from millions of people.   Corker's like the guy who went with someone to the gun shows and helped him organize the shed he built for all the weapons, and now that his friend turns out to be a lunatic who's threatening to rain down hellfire, he's decided to say something.

    As Charlie says, "In short, fckabuncha Bob Corker."

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    I think (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Oct 09, 2017 at 09:32:20 PM EST
    Corkers history of being an early supporter makes what he is saying now more important.  Not less.

    Everything else Pierce says is saying Corker is a conservative republican.  

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    Basically (none / 0) (#39)
    by CST on Thu Oct 12, 2017 at 08:56:53 AM EST
    He might be a Republican but that doesn't mean he wants a nuclear war.

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    And, don't forget...... (none / 0) (#40)
    by NYShooter on Thu Oct 12, 2017 at 09:43:13 PM EST
    "The enemy of my enemy is my friend," "Any port in a storm," "Perfect is the enemy of good,"

    Should I keep going?

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    You Forget That Also (none / 0) (#4)
    by RickyJim on Sun Oct 08, 2017 at 09:24:50 AM EST
    the Democrats want him in office on Nov. 6, 2018.

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    You forget that also ... (5.00 / 3) (#5)
    by Yman on Sun Oct 08, 2017 at 10:29:58 AM EST
    1.  Democrats don't have the power/votes to remove him, and

    2.  You don't speak for "Democrats".


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    Only one thing will work (none / 0) (#2)
    by jondee on Sat Oct 07, 2017 at 07:24:17 PM EST
    to reassure the rest of the world that the U.S isn't being led by a lunatic.

    Actually, maybe a couple of things.

    count me (none / 0) (#3)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Oct 08, 2017 at 09:13:27 AM EST
    in the many

    I suppose (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Oct 08, 2017 at 03:03:12 PM EST
    There is an argument that left to his own devices Trump would self destruct sooner.  

    IMO he will destruct soon enough.  I prefer having adult supervision in the interim so SELF destruct is hopefully all he does.

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    Bingo! My question is.... (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by NYShooter on Sun Oct 08, 2017 at 09:30:40 PM EST
    regarding North Korea, If Trump gives the order to launch the missiles, is there anyone in the chain of command to tell him, "No Sir!"

    I have to believe the 3 Generals have discussed it among themselves. Let's hope their loyalty is to America, and, not to the Criminal in Charge.

    Personally, I have my doubts. Gen. McMaster, who I had high hopes for, has, since indicated he's drooling for a pre-emptive strike. Again, I hope it was just blather, but, who knows?

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    I have absolutely no doubt (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Oct 09, 2017 at 06:36:05 AM EST
    They have discussed it.

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    RadioLab (none / 0) (#14)
    by leap on Sun Oct 08, 2017 at 10:54:38 PM EST
    Listen to this piece on nukes. The first part is pretty astonishing, about Tsutomu Yamaguchi who had the horrible bad luck to be at both Hiroshima and Nakasake when each of the Bombs was dropped. But the second part of the program is about your very question, "is there anyone in the chain of command to tell him, 'No Sir!'. You are right, there is no one who can stop a pResident from giving that command. A young missle-launch Air Force officer asked that question, pursued that question, and was booted out for his impertinence.

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    The jury is still out. (none / 0) (#22)
    by KeysDan on Mon Oct 09, 2017 at 03:26:38 PM EST
    Is Trump a moron or a f...moron, according to Secretary of State Tillerson.  And, is the White House an adult day care center with a missing staff shift, or chaos separated by the generals, according to Republican Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Corker?

    While deliberations on this matters continue, is Ivana , the first wife, the First Lady, or is Melania, the First Lady, according to a White House spokesperson, who says there is no basis to this statement of an ex, just self-serving noise.  Marla, the second ex, has not yet weighted in on this dispute.

      I believe, in the first instance, f...moron has the edge, and in the second, Melania.

    Third Lady (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Oct 09, 2017 at 03:42:55 PM EST
    doesnt have the same poetry does it?

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    I can see why Tr*mp and Ivana divorced. (none / 0) (#24)
    by vml68 on Mon Oct 09, 2017 at 06:15:45 PM EST
    I can't imagine how those two gigantic egos coexisted for so long!

    "Would I straighten up the White House in 14 days? Absolutely. Can I give the speech for 45 minutes without [a] teleprompter? Absolutely. Can I read a contract? Can I negotiate? Can I entertain? Absolutely.

    As for this comment...

    When asked why she has a good relationship with Melania and not Maples, she responded bluntly by saying, "One, it's nobody. And the other one, it's first lady."

    Meeeoowwww!

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    No one knew health care (none / 0) (#29)
    by KeysDan on Tue Oct 10, 2017 at 03:56:52 PM EST
    was complicated.   Using a visit by Henry Kissinger to the Oval Office to attack "failing Obamacare," Trump empathized that "Henry Kissinger does not want to pay 116% increase in his premiums, but that's what is happening and its actually getting worse."

    Now, it may be true that Kissinger does not want to pay a 116% increase in his premiums, but that is not what is happening to him.  Kissinger lives in NY where the premium on the individual exchanges have increased by 16.6%.  The increase of 116% in premium was for  individual exchanges in the state of Arizona and prior to subsidies.

    And, Kissinger is 94 years old, and is likely on Medicare, rather than ACA individual exchanges. However, the Trump executive order changes may actually result in higher costs for Kissinger and all Medicare beneficiaries.

    Eminem (none / 0) (#35)
    by FlJoe on Wed Oct 11, 2017 at 08:09:52 AM EST
    tells us how he really feels
    "This is his form of distraction/ Plus, he gets an enormous reaction/ When he attacks the NFL, so we focus on that/ Instead of talking about Puerto Rico or gun reform for Nevada/ All of these horrible tragedies and he's bored and would rather cause a Twitter storm with the Packers,"
    Not exactly my cup of tea, but powerful stuff.

    "The rest of America stand up. We love our military and we love our country, but we f--ing hate Trump."
    yep, moron works for me (none / 0) (#36)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 11, 2017 at 09:05:14 AM EST
    Trump reportedly wanted nearly 10 times more nuclear weapons
    President Donald Trump discussed increasing the number of U.S. nuclear weapons by nearly 10 times     at a July meeting with top national security officials, according to NBC News.
    After the meeting, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson was heard calling Trump a "moron," NBC reported.

    CNBC

    its being said meeting attendees were shocked, stunned and deeply disturbed by this.

    i guess they dont have a tv or an internet connection.  most people are neither shocked or stunned and mostly have disturb fatigue.

    Unhinged is gong around lately. (none / 0) (#37)
    by KeysDan on Wed Oct 11, 2017 at 12:59:38 PM EST
    Lindsey went golfing with Trump on Columbus Day, and had a great time with a "great host."  Lindsey slobbered that Trump shot a 73 in windy and wet conditions, as if he was being auditioned for Tillerson's job.

    As the country's top diplomat said diplomatically, a f...moron.  

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