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Trump Refusing to Sign Shutdown Bill

Donald Trump wants his wall. He's refusing to sign the bill to avoid a government shutdown without funding for his wall.

Donald Trump is the antithesis of what this country needs in leadership.

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall;
All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again.

Hopefully, Trump's fall will come soon.

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    Since he (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 02:45:33 PM EST
    said Mexico was going to pay for it maybe he should start spending time there talking their legislature into building a wall.

    yes, (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by KeysDan on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 03:21:48 PM EST
    Mexico needs to get its act together, a US government shut-down will show we mean business.

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    Meanwhile (none / 0) (#2)
    by CST on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 03:09:21 PM EST
    I'm pretty sure Corker and Flake have already left town and won't be coming back.  Why would they.

    Susan Collins (5.00 / 4) (#4)
    by KeysDan on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 03:29:14 PM EST
    is very concerned---to the point of being troubled.

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    She will be untroubled (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 03:55:31 PM EST
    When she is retired

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    Do Republicans just stay (none / 0) (#8)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 03:59:57 PM EST
    Gone while Trump does this? Stock market crashing harder tomorrow?

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    Hahahaha (none / 0) (#6)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 03:58:41 PM EST
    Almost all of our legislators have left town

    This is seriously nuts (none / 0) (#7)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 03:59:09 PM EST
    He shut down the government and heads off to play golf for 3 weeks.  To make Rush and Coulter and Ingrahm and 28% of the country happy.

    He is correct that if he loses the full mooners he is lost.  I don't think he has understood yet that  he is lost period.

    And troops out of Afghanistan (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 04:01:25 PM EST
    Probably next

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    This is clearly a diversion (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 04:11:30 PM EST
    The question is, from what?

    Just the standard daily stuff or is he planning something for the holiday break while everyone is otherwise engaged.

    It was announced, interestingly, today that Whittaker would not be recused from the Mueller investigation.

    Can he/they possibly be panicked enough that he thinks he can get away with that? I think so.  Because I think he is beginning to understand he is going down so he might as well go down kicking and screaming and take as many with him as possible.

    I really think it might be about to get worse before it gets better.

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    World plucking Peace (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 04:16:09 PM EST
    Via Donald Trump

    Hahahahaha

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    Mattis given THE BOOT (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 04:17:21 PM EST
    I hope we hear from him (none / 0) (#18)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 04:21:52 PM EST
    Resignation effective (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by Peter G on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 07:16:27 PM EST
    In February. Plenty of time for maneuvering or even second thoughts.

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    So, there I go. Wrong again. (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by Peter G on Sun Dec 23, 2018 at 11:15:34 AM EST
    The Petulant Toddler... (none / 0) (#43)
    by desertswine on Sun Dec 23, 2018 at 02:33:39 PM EST
    was angry at Mattis' resignation letter.  Apparently he hadn't actually read it before all the bad press.

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    Or he tried (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by Zorba on Sun Dec 23, 2018 at 04:26:23 PM EST
    To read it but couldn't understand it.
    Then the media told him that it wasn't exactly flattering to him.

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    After the shock wore off (none / 0) (#30)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 08:20:51 PM EST
    That is what we are going to lobby for on Trump's Twitter.

    Spouse does not think Mattis will reverse course though unless Trump begs. Mattis has had enough. Mattis would have never written such a letter unless it was now part of his marrow.

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    They are reading his letter on CNN (none / 0) (#19)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 04:26:22 PM EST
    But publicly dissing the President? I'm not sure. I don't think he will undercut the perception of presidential authority.

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    Bill Krystol just said moments ago on MSNBC (none / 0) (#20)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 04:31:09 PM EST
    That he was asked today if this would be the last straw and answered absolutely not.  To worried about what would happen.

    Encouraging right?

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    Whatever sort of military stability (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 04:37:03 PM EST
    We were experiencing, it's over. Who knows what is on the other side of this? Not me.

    But who posts here and supports maintaining troop presence in Syria or Afghanistan other than me?

    Conservatives have received whatever they wanted out of Pandora's box. Freakin get some Liberals while the gettins good. I'm going to continue to giggle (sometimes nervously) and watch.

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    I do. For one. Especially Syria. (none / 0) (#23)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 04:42:33 PM EST
    This Mattis thing actually underlines my thinking that he is planning something big.

    I'm afraid this is the start of something.  To much distraction for general purposes

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    Leaving the Kurds to be (5.00 / 2) (#31)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 08:23:44 PM EST
    Butchered is destroying the soul of many an active duty soldier and Veteran tonight. They are sick and torn up inside.

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    Secretary Mattis (none / 0) (#32)
    by KeysDan on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 08:29:12 PM EST
    Is getting out in time to keep his reputation and dignity.  He has avoided the all too common "reverse Midas touch" for associates of Trump.  Mattis and Pompeo did not grace themselves in their senate briefing on the bone saw prince---no smoking gun.  To be expected from Pompeo, but worrisome in the case of Mattis.

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    At this point (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 09:34:44 PM EST
    If Mattis wanted to be a yuge whore of any kind to stay SecDef and directly influencing Trump I'm fine with it.

    Trump is too dangerous. I realize Mattis has had enough, but Trump is too dangerous


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    He is trying to play hero (none / 0) (#15)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 04:15:03 PM EST
    And outrun the Mueller investigation, block the findings.  

    I think he thinks if he can get someone to love him as much as Bill Clinton. He's going to bring all the troops home and I'm just going to die laughing. These decisions were always in his lane.

    Now Mattis leaving

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    The guys with the net (none / 0) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 04:02:08 PM EST
    Are outside

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    Trump is getting (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 04:08:24 PM EST
    The best strokes on Twitter from people who normally hate him over the Syria tweet. He's so attention starved he'll probably bring the troops home from Korea too in a few weeks bahahahaha

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    Not yet (none / 0) (#12)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 04:04:59 PM EST
    The libs will side to bring the netters in after all the troops are really en route home. Spouse retires May. I'm just watching and having popcorn.

    Libtards ain't gonna waste this crisis though hahahahaha

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    Artistic Steel Slats (none / 0) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 04:01:34 PM EST
    As Charlie Cook tweeted is the best track on Uncle Meat.

    Syria and Ukraine (none / 0) (#21)
    by thomas rogan on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 04:34:09 PM EST
    Obama and Clinton never quite carried out their threats of "Assad must go".  I'm not a lawyer, but it sure seems from international law that if Assad asks us to leave Syria we have to go (isn't that what we are doing with Ukraine and Russian takeover in Crimea?).  
    Trump has declared victory before being forced by Assad into a humiliating climbdown.  After all, how can we protest when Putin sends more Russian troops into the two breakaway provinces of Ukraine around Christmas?  

    Trump is swayed by whomever he sees.. (none / 0) (#24)
    by desertswine on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 04:48:07 PM EST
    last on television.

    Any bets on who is going to be next Defense Secretary?  Ted Nugent?  Yosemite Sam?

    I just heard Tom Cotton (none / 0) (#25)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 04:56:44 PM EST
    Makes total sense to me

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    That would fit... (none / 0) (#26)
    by desertswine on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 05:03:39 PM EST
    he already has a room in the Crazy Hotel.

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    Meh (none / 0) (#27)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 05:11:53 PM EST
    Better than Ted Nugent

    Perhaps will be dragged down with the ship

    At least I will be rid of him as a senator

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    I feel that we're approaching some (none / 0) (#34)
    by desertswine on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 09:56:40 PM EST
    kind of climax.

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    Mister (none / 0) (#28)
    by FlJoe on Thu Dec 20, 2018 at 05:49:38 PM EST
    Haney of course
    the president posted a tweet -- of himself and Will and Grace actress Megan Mullally at the 2005 Emmys performing a song while he wore overalls and acted like a farmer in an attempt to hype his signing of the new Farm Bill.


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    update (none / 0) (#35)
    by nyjets on Fri Dec 21, 2018 at 07:29:11 AM EST
    I think the house just approved the funding for the wall. It now heads to the senate.

    A final, futile middle finger (5.00 / 4) (#36)
    by Peter G on Fri Dec 21, 2018 at 08:07:12 AM EST
     from the lame duck Republicans to the voters who threw them out.

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    "BE BEST!!" (none / 0) (#37)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Dec 21, 2018 at 11:06:45 AM EST
    "NEED WALL!!"

    Perhaps it time for an emergency shipment of determines to the White House?

    Trump world (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by MKS on Fri Dec 21, 2018 at 01:36:13 PM EST
    hates definite articles.....

    Gotta sound illiterate to communicate with their base.

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    Jesus (none / 0) (#38)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Dec 21, 2018 at 11:07:26 AM EST
    An emergency shipment of DETERMINERS

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    Hulk smash! (none / 0) (#41)
    by Zorba on Fri Dec 21, 2018 at 02:58:34 PM EST
    n/t

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    RBG has cancer (none / 0) (#39)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Dec 21, 2018 at 11:15:57 AM EST
    In case you needed.....

    ....they were removed.   No evidence of remaining disease