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Report: Kushner Loses Security Access to Daily Briefings

Reuters is reporting Jared Kushner has lost his interim security clearance that allows him access to Trump's daily briefings.

A third official, also speaking on condition of anonymity, said Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein recently passed new information to White House Counsel Don McGahn that led to the slowing or stopping of Kushner’s pending clearance application. The nature of that information was not clear.

It also is unclear if and when Kushner’s access to the briefing, known as the PDB, which requires clearance higher than the Top Secret level, would be reinstated.

Reuters reports this is unconfirmed, and it's not clear if or why he was refused permanent clearance but sources say has to do with his financial dealings.

This may mean nothing since Reuters also reports that Trump is authorized personally to grant him a top secret clearance. But there is more....[More...]

John Kelly says:
"As I told Jared days ago, I have full confidence in his ability to continue performing his duties in his foreign policy portfolio including overseeing our Israeli-Palestinian peace effort and serving as an integral part of our relationship with Mexico," Kelly said.

Jared is on the team for Mexico to address trade issues. Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto just cancelled a planned trip to the U.S. because of a squabble with Trump during a phone call over whether Trump would refrain from commenting on Mexico paying for the border wall during his visit. When Trump refused, he canceled his visit. Jared reportedly called Peña Nieto after the uncomfortable phone call with Trump, but could not get him to change his mind.

Has Jared Kushner had a single success since he became a volunteer presidential advisor?

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    He is/was having contact with world leaders (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 07:20:20 AM EST
    And foreign entities that he is/was leaving the White House out of, if this was any other administration he'd be arrested right now.

    Holder was on Bill Maher (5.00 / 1) (#70)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Mar 03, 2018 at 12:01:03 PM EST
    And explained that it typically takes 6 to 8 weeks to process and receive the highest compartmental access security clearance. That is if you don't lie or have a rap sheet.

    i glad (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 27, 2018 at 06:26:29 PM EST
    but i am not optimistic it will stop him from accessing top secret info.

    Trump might not even officially give him access.  why bother and get bad press.  just do it.

    Yes, Trump (none / 0) (#11)
    by KeysDan on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 09:51:01 AM EST
    may just give Jared access.  Sarah HuckabeeS. is priming for it with the "we do not say who has/has not clearance." routine.  Not that Jared could ever do the job, but, technically, can't see how anyone could meet the responsibilities of high level negotiating, for example, with others with incomplete knowledge or less information than the others in the room.   And, same for Ivanka.  What is she doing discussing North Korea sanctions etc with the South Korean president without security clearance.  

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    I wonder if anyone has seen this (none / 0) (#2)
    by Anne on Tue Feb 27, 2018 at 06:31:55 PM EST
    little nugget (the WaPo, via TPM)

    Officials in at least four countries -- the United Arab Emirates, China, Israel and Mexico -- discussed ways they could manipulate White House adviser Jared Kushner through his "complex business arrangements, financial difficulties and lack of foreign policy experience," the Washington Post reported Tuesday, citing unnamed current and former U.S. officials "familiar with intelligence reports on the matter."

    The news comes as reports emerged Tuesday of Kushner and other White House appointees' security clearances having been downgraded.

    The Post reported:

       Officials from the UAE identified Kushner as early as the spring of 2017 as particularly manipulable because of his family's search for investors in their real estate company, current and former officials said.

    Peter Mirijanian, a spokesperson for Kushner's lawyer, told the Post: "We will not respond substantively to unnamed sources peddling second-hand hearsay with rank speculation that continue to leak inaccurate information."

    I wonder, too, about the Trump v. Kelly situation: did Trump expect that the "right thing" he said Kelly would do would be to let Jared's interim clearance stand?

    If I were a fly on the wall in the West Wing, I'd be a little scared about what's going on behind the scenes.

    It (none / 0) (#3)
    by FlJoe on Tue Feb 27, 2018 at 08:09:30 PM EST
    looks like a power play by Kelly, perhaps with the assistance of McMaster. I was thinking that the leak came from Kelly but the Post spent a lot of time talking about McMaster so I am guessing his staff leaked this.
    With Muller breathing down Kushner's neck, the "adults" decided it was time to jettison the boy wonder.

    I think tRump is too cowardly to actually fire either one of them.

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    I'm not sure (none / 0) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 27, 2018 at 08:16:36 PM EST
    Jared and Ivankas personal white house PR person quit today.

    There have been rumors they would leave for a long time.  Maybe they will just go back to NY.  Or Russia.

    Trump has been said to be unhappy Jareds problems were becoming his problems.

    I don't think he would hesitate much in tossing him under the bus.  Or at least out of the west wing.

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    Nahhh (none / 0) (#6)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 07:23:10 AM EST
    Their PR person left to save his reputation. The Kushners are clueless right now as to how much trouble they are in.

    I wonder how Mueller plays this? At the very least Jared belongs in jail, not pardoned.

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    What's the over/under on how much (none / 0) (#7)
    by Anne on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 07:32:38 AM EST
    longer McMaster has a job?

    Oh, and by the way, that hearing yesterday with Mike Rogers was jaw-dropping.  I have to think things are really bad when the people who work for you stop giving you cover.  I felt like Rogers was more or less pleading for help on this Russia thing.

    Meanwhile, Sarah Sanders just wants us all to know that it's all Obama's fault, and Trump's been much harder on Russia than previous administrations.  

    I seriously do not know how people get up every day to tell lies for a living.

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    McMaster is trying to be moved (none / 0) (#8)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 07:41:36 AM EST
    He didn't make 4 star prior to Trump, so he turned in his retirement paperwork. Then Trump tapped him, so his retirement was rescinded. He wants out of the White House, but he's in uniform, he can't quit but he can be promoted elsewhere.

    The Army doesn't have an available 4 star command though. They are creating such a command right now in future studies. That job it was assumed would go to the man who has done all the hard work and that's General Cardone. A real dirty deal would be if they ended up giving the command to McMaster so Trump and McMaster wouldn't have to look at each other anymore.

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    I think I've run out excuses (none / 0) (#9)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 07:44:39 AM EST
    To not read the McMaster book

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    Rogers testimony (none / 0) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 08:36:17 AM EST
    Was incredible.  

    in·cred·i·ble
    [inˈkredəb(ə)l]
    ADJECTIVE
    impossible to believe

    :)

    I really think Jared has passed his sell by date.  I say gone in time for the Friday news dump.

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    I flat out believe Jared has severely (none / 0) (#12)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 10:42:37 AM EST
    Broken laws, just shat on them.

    I know he thinks everything's a popularity contest, but if this country returns to rule of law he's going to jail. Maybe Ivanka too.

    Parent

    No way (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by Peter G on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 04:57:44 PM EST
    Too posh.

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    You're hurting my heart Peter (none / 0) (#31)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 05:32:24 PM EST
    That is going to break someone's heart ;-) (none / 0) (#16)
    by vml68 on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 03:22:02 PM EST
    Maybe Ivanka too.


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    And always remember (none / 0) (#13)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 11:34:33 AM EST
    Rogers was supposed to have been fired. Obama was in the middle of firing him for incompetence, creating a toxic work environment, and just not coming to work.

    It's a sad phucking day when Rogers has more integrity or accountability or leadership than our sitting President. He's a fair weather hero though. And so incompetent

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    Rogers is retiring soon. (none / 0) (#14)
    by caseyOR on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 12:58:38 PM EST
    Which could mean he has decided he has nothing left to lose.

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    It's ON now (none / 0) (#15)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 01:12:36 PM EST
    BREAKING: New York's banking regulator has asked Deutsche Bank and two other banks to provide info about Jared Kushner, his family and the Kushner Cos., @gregfarrel and @davidkski report.

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    Interesting (none / 0) (#21)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 03:41:25 PM EST
    If Mueller lets NY take this one, at least for now.  Circumlocuting the pardon talk while he does his thing.

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    I think it is going to be a couple of years (none / 0) (#40)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 06:03:51 PM EST
    Of members of the Trump campaign and administration being charged, trials, jail.

    Parent
    i agree (none / 0) (#41)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 06:06:06 PM EST
    i think it could be.  and possibly some congress critters.  im lookin at you Dana

    Parent
    We should all (none / 0) (#44)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 07:46:53 PM EST
    be looking at Devin Nunes too. There is a reason he acts the way he does and does the things he does.

    Parent
    I really can't fathom what the hell (none / 0) (#45)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 07:52:28 PM EST
    He's done. It's boggling just grasping what Trump Familia has done.

    Can't imagine anyone innocent acting like Nunes.

    What the hell did you do Devin?

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    Took boatloads of rubles (none / 0) (#52)
    by smott on Fri Mar 02, 2018 at 12:24:07 PM EST
    From Russian oligarchs. Possibly some to help his vineyard business.
    Helped to get Manafort onto the campaign. He's toast. On the Polonium list with Paulie. Or should I say Pasha.

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    Hope Hicks is resigning... (none / 0) (#17)
    by Anne on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 03:32:29 PM EST
    talk about a revolving door.

    White House Communications Director Hope Hicks will resign in the coming weeks, the New York Times' first reported Wednesday.

    The announcement comes one day after Hicks testified before the House Intelligence Committee for their investigation of Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

    She reportedly told the committee she sometimes tells "white lies" in her official capacity.

    Hicks is the fourth person to serve as communications director in the Trump administration, in addition to Sean Spicer, Mike Dubke and Anthony Scaramucci.

    She's going to pursue other opportunities.

    That's very interesting (none / 0) (#18)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 03:36:50 PM EST
    Other opportunities.  Like the opportunity to stay out if jail.

    Tell the truth, keep your job.  Choose one.

    She never struck me as the going down the river type

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    She can't "decline to answer" (none / 0) (#19)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 03:38:33 PM EST
    Mueller

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    I think (none / 0) (#20)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 03:40:58 PM EST
    she already has had her date with Mueller.

    Parent
    Sure she can, like anyone else (none / 0) (#26)
    by Peter G on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 04:56:52 PM EST
    if she believes that an honest answer might tend -- rightly or wrongly -- to incriminate her. What she can't do is lie, or refuse to answer for any other reason (outside of legally established privileges).

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    She can take the 5th (none / 0) (#29)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 05:05:40 PM EST
    Or claim some executive privilege which would almost certainly be nixed by a court.

    That is not what she did yesterday.  She "declined to answer" knowing the spineless republicans would not force her to.

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    one thing i learned (none / 0) (#30)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 05:28:16 PM EST
    is that if you are pardoned you no longer have the right to take the 5th.  you can be compelled to testify.

    so a pardon might not be the best idea.  in her case or others.

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    Well, almost (none / 0) (#50)
    by Peter G on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 09:42:04 PM EST
    A Presidential pardon does not pardon state-law offenses. A pardoned official could therefore still take the Fifth in awareness of the NY state AG's (and possibly others') additional investigations.

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    I think it's likely that Jared is (none / 0) (#51)
    by Anne on Thu Mar 01, 2018 at 05:53:06 AM EST
    going to have some exposure on the state level, and I have a hard time picturing Andrew Cuomo handing out any pardons...

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    Highly likely (none / 0) (#53)
    by smott on Fri Mar 02, 2018 at 12:27:27 PM EST
    Jared, Trump, Polonium Paulie and many others in the Trump sphere. AG Schneiderman is going to have a lot of targets. And if Trump does pardon some of them for offenses that touch on the State level charges Schneidermann brings, I wonder if that may erase their ability to take the 5th there.

    Between Mueller and Trump there's quite a bit of housekeeping to do.

    I still say Trump will try to fire Mueller. He has to.

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    He really really (none / 0) (#55)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 02, 2018 at 12:33:42 PM EST
    Really etc
    Wants to.  I don't think he can.   I think we are passed that.

    Parent
    To be clear (none / 0) (#56)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 02, 2018 at 12:35:34 PM EST
    He might fire him.  But that would not be the end.

    Parent
    I agree. (none / 0) (#62)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Mar 02, 2018 at 07:24:22 PM EST
    Firing Mueller at this point does nothing but get Trump another obstruction of justice charge. It seems Mueller has so much info but it's not Mueller that controls all the information. His team has all the same information. Lopping off the head of the organization is not going to stop the organization from moving forward.

    That being said if he did fire Mueller it's not like the GOP is going to do anything about it. It would just be left up to his team to each on their own issue indictments.

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    If she said she "declined to answer" (none / 0) (#48)
    by Peter G on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 09:32:02 PM EST
    and was not asked why she declined, that is, whether she had some legal basis to decline -- and if so, what that basis was -- then no one knows whether she had a valid basis or not.

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    She was asked (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 09:41:55 PM EST
    And declined to answer that too.  In view of today's news I suspect it's possible she may have been told by Mueller not tell the yahoos on house Intel anything important.

    What happened today could be connected to yesterday

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    Two separate things I believe (none / 0) (#42)
    by linea on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 06:35:19 PM EST
    I believe you are conflating `decline to answer Mueller' and testifying before the House Intelligence Committee.

    As I understand it, refusing to answer a question from the Committee could result in a contempt charge.

    If you are being interviewed as part of an investigation and Mueller is asking you a question and you just stare at him and say nothing, what mechanism does he have to compel you to talk? It's not contempt of court if there isn't a court. Also, isn't there a right to remain silent in any criminal investigation?

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    My advice (none / 0) (#24)
    by linea on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 03:56:43 PM EST
    I haven't followed the Hope Hicks saga but I don't expect testifying before the House Intelligence Committee was pleasant.

    If she hasn't talked to the Mueller team yet, my advice would be to refuse the invitation. It seems too easy to run afoul of the `felony misstatement' law.

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    That'll work (none / 0) (#25)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 04:00:48 PM EST
    Hicks has been interviewed by Mueller's (none / 0) (#28)
    by caseyOR on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 04:57:57 PM EST
    team. That does not mean she cannot be brought back for further questioning.

    Refusing an " invitation" to talk with the special prosecutor is not an option. Her choices are to answer their questions or plead the Fifth.

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    Are you sure? (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by linea on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 06:00:33 PM EST
    It was my understanding that a prosecutor could issue a subpoena for a witness to testify in court or before a grand jury. By what mechanism would a prosecutor force someone to come to his office and answer questions in an investigation?

    I was under the impression that Trump administration officials were cooperating with the investigation because it is essentially a job requirement. They can quit their job and then refuse to participate in the investigation. They could go on vacation and tell Mueller to route any questions through their attorney unless he produces a subpoena to testify in court.

    That's how I understand it.

    In my opinion, because of the ridiculous application of the `false statement' law, people should only provide two comments to Federal investigators:
    `I need to talk to an attorney.'
    `On advice of legal council... the Fifth.'

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    She can refuse an invitation. (none / 0) (#58)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 02, 2018 at 04:43:31 PM EST
     Best to honor a subpoena. Better than an arrest warrant for failure to appear.

    Parent
    My point (none / 0) (#59)
    by linea on Fri Mar 02, 2018 at 05:08:02 PM EST
    A subpoena is an order to appear in court. I am not aware that a prosecutor cannot issue a subpoena ordering you to come to his office and be interrogated.

    Parent
    Darn it (5.00 / 1) (#60)
    by linea on Fri Mar 02, 2018 at 05:14:26 PM EST
    Should read:

     a prosecutor cannot issue a subpoena ordering you to come to his office and be interrogated.

    Parent

    Correct. (5.00 / 1) (#61)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 02, 2018 at 06:08:46 PM EST
    If she refuses (none / 0) (#54)
    by smott on Fri Mar 02, 2018 at 12:28:32 PM EST
    Isn't it straight to the GJ?

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    Dunno (none / 0) (#57)
    by linea on Fri Mar 02, 2018 at 03:02:39 PM EST
    But testifying before a grand jury is preferable, in my opinion.

    As I understand it, typically, you testify once and they ask a question once. In court, it is not permitted to badger, harass, and confuse the witness. You are much less likely to misstate something and if you do, the statement must be material to the specific investigation to be prosecuted as perjury.

    Unlike what one endures by Federal investigators where you are subjected to being called back for repeated interrogations, where the same question is repeated multiple times, where the investigator is free to berate, accuse, and lie but where any misstatement on your part may subject you to criminal prosecution on a `making false statements` charge.
     

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    Good lord (none / 0) (#22)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 03:41:36 PM EST
    working two jobs does not leave me much time to keep up with all this anymore but it seems like yesterday was a MASTER DUMP of information.

    You take out the trash (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 03:46:14 PM EST
    You miss something

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    I washed the dogs today (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 05:38:05 PM EST
    I didn't want to wash them before today because I assume they are climatizing like I am. I didn't want them to get a chill. They were impeccably groomed for Christmas but they're pretty scruffy now.

    Finally today was nice enough. And in that short little span of time Hope Hicks has quit?

    Every couple of hours it's something seismic.

    Parent

    like this? (none / 0) (#33)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 05:41:18 PM EST
    All I gotta (none / 0) (#34)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 05:50:06 PM EST
    say is we must be nearing the end of the Trump Administration because Mueller has the goods from Gates. The next question is so Mueller finds that the GOP colluded. Certainly the people who are in control of the government now are not going to do anything about that. A while back I decided the only real solution is to take all of them out in an election. So if my hunch is right and we are going to have to take them all out in November that means we were going to be dealing with this for about 11 more months. I don't know how much more I can stand.

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    also (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 06:00:02 PM EST
    i heard something to think about today.

    he does not just have the goods from Gates.  that there is almost certainly dozens 0f cooperating witnesses.  we only know about the ones charged.

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    i have been saying (none / 0) (#35)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 05:56:12 PM EST
    for months that i think Mueller will indict Trump.

    and just bypass the House.

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    If he did (none / 0) (#36)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 05:56:12 PM EST
    Is that collusion?

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    collusion is not (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 05:57:19 PM EST
    not i believe a legal term.  would it be conspiracy?  sure looks like it to me,

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    And receivership (none / 0) (#43)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 07:45:42 PM EST
    of those emails is receivership of stolen goods. There could be some kind of conspiracy issue with that too.

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    The hits keep coming (none / 0) (#46)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 07:53:36 PM EST
    KUSHNER GOT LOANS AFTER WH MEETINGS

    only about 500,000,000

    Better (5.00 / 1) (#65)
    by FlJoe on Sat Mar 03, 2018 at 10:00:24 AM EST
    not deny the boy wonder.
    HBJ had been in talks with Kushner Companies about investing in its Fifth Avenue property, which is facing roughly $1.4 billion in debt that is due in 2019, these people said. Those talks with the company continued after Kushner entered the White House and stepped away from the business, but last spring HBJ decided against investing, these people said.

    In the weeks after Kushner Companies' talks with the Qatari government and HBJ collapsed, the White House strongly backed an economically punishing blockade against Qatar, led by Saudi Arabia and the UAE, citing the country's support for terrorism as the impetus. Kushner, who is both President Donald Trump's son-in-law and a key adviser, has played a major role in Trump's Middle East policy and has developed close relationships with the crown princes of Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

    Some top Qatari government officials believe the White House's position on the blockade may have been a form of retaliation driven by Kushner who was sour about the failed deal, according to multiple people familiar with the matter. Saudi Arabia and UAE have long had a rivalry with Qatar.

    (my bold)

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    This is breaking (none / 0) (#47)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 28, 2018 at 08:09:19 PM EST
    In the last hour

    Btw

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    Dark skies for Jarvanka (none / 0) (#63)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 03, 2018 at 09:08:57 AM EST
    So (none / 0) (#64)
    by FlJoe on Sat Mar 03, 2018 at 09:50:13 AM EST
    Kelly promptly draws his weapon and shoots himself in the foot by bringing up the Porter affair again (and lying again)for no apparent reason.

    Now we at least know what the flood of leaks about Jarvanka this week was all about.

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    True (5.00 / 1) (#66)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 03, 2018 at 10:04:39 AM EST
    But assuming there is ANY truth in this the most remarkable thing to me is that Trump is so incredibly feckless and limp he needs Kelly to "help" him get rid of his daughter and son in law neither of whom have any official title.

    Seriously, it beggars belief.  

    This is our "president".

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    Feckless (none / 0) (#67)
    by FlJoe on Sat Mar 03, 2018 at 10:34:57 AM EST
    and limp for sure, but as usual he deals with it by setting up reality show type conflict. Kelly himself has been on the hot seat but appears to be the odds on favorite to remain on the island after sacrificing McMaster and revoking Kushners clearance.

    Aside from firing Comey (which he probably regrets), tRump's preferred method of getting rid of people is to hound them out, much of the time with disparaging tweets. Sometimes it works Bannon, Spicer, Preibus sometimes it doesn't Kelly, Sessions, Tillerson. He could never take that route with Ivanka and by extension Kush.

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    Javanka is affecting the National Security Council (none / 0) (#69)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Mar 03, 2018 at 10:56:36 AM EST
    Because their double dealing compromises the entire nation.

    You can't have the people undermining national security in the office next to you in the White House.

    As I said before, this has probably become a legal issue for HR McMaster. Kelly is trying to get the President to understand the legal consequences as well as the fact that almost nobody qualified will agree to be his NSA as long as the White House is compromised.

    Trump seldom learns anything though. He doesn't want Javanka gone even though everyone else says they must go.

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    Is it really that hard to say, (none / 0) (#71)
    by Anne on Sat Mar 03, 2018 at 04:13:08 PM EST
    "This isn't working. I love your loyalty, I will always seek your counsel, but I can't have you here in any official capacity: you need to go back to NY - and I promise I will come visit you in prison."

    Not that they ever should have been part of the administration, but nothing he can do about that now, other than to cut them loose and hope that the daily crises and scandals will divert people's attention away from the failed Javanka experiment, right?

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    Kelly initially came off as a liar (none / 0) (#68)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Mar 03, 2018 at 10:49:02 AM EST
    Because he's a liar

    But as a retired mil officer being exposed as a liar is particularly uncomfortable, so I think he hopes to fix his story. Which is only making it worse because he's a liar.

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