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Posted on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 07:16:00 AM EST
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For the second time in a week, United is in the doghouse for its mishandling of a passenger's beloved canine: This weekend, a family checked its dog when flying from Oregon to Kansas City. When they went to doggie claim in Kansas City to retrieve their German Shephard named Irgo, they were handed a Great Dane.

Where was their beloved Irgo? Shipped to Japan by mistake. At least he didn't die, like the dog the owner was made to put in the overhead bin, but still, this is pretty bad. The dog is now en route back home from Japan. I won't be surprised if it develops a serious case of PTSD from the ordeal.

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    Dog returning from a Japan and heading for (5.00 / 4) (#65)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 05:40:22 PM EST
    Kamnsas is flying first class on United with a human companion.

    In all the years at my old job, from which (5.00 / 4) (#83)
    by desertswine on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 09:25:04 PM EST
    I retired not too long ago, we shipped animals from tiny tree frogs to large ones the size of giraffes, and bigger.  Not once did we have one wind up in a place where it was not supposed to go, and not once did we have one die in transit.  The thing is, you have to care about what your'e doing.

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    Dog and mom on GMA this AM. (5.00 / 2) (#89)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Mar 16, 2018 at 12:29:47 PM EST
    The dog looks mellow and loving.

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    Just finished reading this comment thread. (5.00 / 1) (#100)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Mar 19, 2018 at 01:36:48 AM EST
    You guys make me happy that we have cats.
    ;-D

    In the doghouse. (none / 0) (#1)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Mar 14, 2018 at 11:26:50 PM EST
    What you did there, I see it.

    How does staff not know there is a dog in the overhead bin when it barked for 2 hours?

    Did Willard "Mittens" Romney buy United?

    My son and d-in-law.. (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by desertswine on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 11:56:53 AM EST
    have one of those frenchies.  It's a wonderful pet and without doubt the friendliest thing on the planet.  She's a real clown and can really make you laugh.

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    They are beautiful little happy dogs (none / 0) (#13)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 12:13:26 PM EST
    I think most of them have a pretty soft raspy bark. I remember hearing them bark at a dog show. Adorable and soft.

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    Oh my god (none / 0) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 07:58:01 AM EST
    I don't even know what I would do but I'm pretty sure sure whatever I did  would would be on the news.

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    You, I, and hopefully most dog owners would be (none / 0) (#4)
    by vml68 on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 10:03:25 AM EST
    on the news for getting kicked off a plane for refusing to comply with the airline stewards instructions to put the dog in the overhead bin.

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    What I don't get is if the family heard the dog (none / 0) (#3)
    by vml68 on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 10:00:54 AM EST
    barking for 2 hours then the other passengers around them must have heard it, too. And, no one spoke up about it? What is wrong with people?

    I am faulting the family for this incident, too. If this is their first time on a plane then I understand their actions. If not, they should have known that an overhead bin is no place for a dog and should have absolutely refused to comply with the stewards instructions. Part of being a responsible dog owner is making sure your dog is safe.

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    I guarantee they would have been (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 10:27:51 AM EST
    escorted (or dragged) off the plane for refusing to comply with crew instructions. That's the go to solution. The airline then works the details out later. They want the plane in the air. However, I'm sure missing your flight is better than a dead dog.

    I have never been in the position, but I have had TSA threaten to "not let me board." My reply has always been "OK." That seems to confuse them.

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    Oh, I don't doubt that for a second. (none / 0) (#8)
    by vml68 on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 11:37:05 AM EST
    I guarantee they would have been escorted (or dragged) off the plane for refusing to comply with crew instructions.

    But, as you said, better than a dead dog.

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    Dogs flown below (none / 0) (#6)
    by CoralGables on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 11:09:39 AM EST
    are like luggage. They too can become lost.

    Dogs in the main cabin? As someone that's allergic to almost all dog hair, I'd prefer they fly below or the owners drive to their destination. Would have no issue with no pets in the main cabin.

    Or at least... (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 11:39:32 AM EST
    if flea-ridden mutts can fly in the cabin, I want the ashtrays back! ;)

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    Hahahaha (none / 0) (#23)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 02:11:15 PM EST
    A cabin full of dog farts ewwwwww

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    There may be a niche market... (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 03:24:48 PM EST
    for Noah's Arc Airlines and Cancer Air!

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    I've been accused of being (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by CST on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 12:12:34 PM EST
    Anti-dog because I don't like to pet strange dogs or be licked by any dogs.  I'm not actually anti-dog I'm just pro-personal space and extend that to non-humans, but at moments like this I often think of my sister, who is deathly afraid of dogs, or people like my good friend (or you) who are severely allergic.

    Being in a small enclosed flying bomb with other humans is bad enough.

    That said, there are times when it may be necessary to bring a pet on a plane.  Like if you are moving overseas or somewhere without a car.  Not sure what the ramifications of leaving them below would be but I agree that it would certainly be preferable for the other humans in the main cabin, assuming it's not hazardous to the animal.

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    The dog sh*t is getting out of hand... (5.00 / 2) (#18)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 01:10:26 PM EST
    (pun intended)...my girlfriend is car shopping so I went with her to the dealership last weekend, some dude brought his dog car-shopping and it's running amuck all over the place.

    I also recently saw some guy bring his dog with him to the take-out taco joint, and proceed to dine in at the place with his dog in a seat next to him. A human seat.

    I'm as freedom-friendly as the next person, but c'mon dog people lets be reasonable. And don't think calling it an "emotional support anxiety dog" makes it ok...it's the 21st century in America, everybody got anxiety, get a grip man or smoke a joint/have a beer for your anxiety like a normal person!

    This dog-lover extremist takes the cake though...my sister has a Siberian Husky.  Loves to be outside all day, never barks.  Some no good do-gooder drops a dime, to 9-1-F*ckin' 1 to be precise, and the police come on a report of an abused dog.  There is supposedly some county law that prohibits you leaving a dog outside for more than x number of hours when it's under x degrees.  My sister explains it's a husky, they love the cold, and she lets him in and out as he pleases, but he prefers the yard.  The cop was sympathetic, but said the law is the law and if they get another call they will be fined.  What kinda dog-worshipping freak of nature makes a 911 call over that? Scared the crap outta my niece who thought the police were taking mommy away.  

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    One of my lifetime (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 02:41:44 PM EST
    Let peeves is city people who do not clean up after their dogs.  

    You're really can't blame the dogs.

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    Honestly... (none / 0) (#51)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 03:39:43 PM EST
    I don't mind dog sh&t and piss outside, that is natural...though obviously sh&t should be picked up, especially on concrete, a poop on the lawn in the park don't bother me...that's planet earth. When I'm playing football at one of our fields in the fall I'm diving on a lawn of geese sh&t, and I'm cool with it.

    A dog piss*n' on the floor at the taco joint otoh would bother me, tie that hound up outside or I'll give ya something to be "anxious" about if my arse is eating!  Or better yet, leave the dog at home while you get your carnitas.  

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#54)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 03:48:53 PM EST
    But allow me to be devils advocate.  While I agree that dogs do not belong in eating establishments that person may have just worked a 15 hour day and is taking the only opportunity he has to get the dog outside for a few minutes  

    Plus.  Personally I would never leave a dog tied outside anywhere unless there was some kind of lock to prevent dog napping.

    When you work long hours love your dog and live in a apt sometimes you have difficult choices.

    Of course none of this could be true.  Sadly there is no azzhole test befor getting a dog.

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    That is a terrible story (none / 0) (#22)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 02:10:03 PM EST
    The dog was bred to thrive in the artic outdoors.  

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    They are (none / 0) (#28)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 02:39:40 PM EST
    And do.  They actually hate being inside.

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    Need lots of exercise too (none / 0) (#36)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 03:03:23 PM EST
    I have noticed among our friends who have them that if they don't get to run enough they run right out the front door and keep going for a few miles.

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    They are also (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 03:12:41 PM EST
    Extremely independent.  Very unlike retrievers or most companion dogs.

    My vet said they were bred that way. He said "think of it this way, you are 'mushing' through the driving blinding snow tell your dog to go forward, but forward - that the dog can see but you cannot - is a giant hole in the ice, or a cliff, or a polar bear..."

    They are very independent characters.  My retrievers live to please me.   All they want to know is what I want.  Not Ghost.  He likes me.  Very much.  But it's clear he would be absolutely fine without me.  And when you make him do something he doesn't want to do you would swear he is trying to curse you out for it.

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    Not too experienced with Huskies. (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 03:25:23 PM EST
    But I had a girlfriend in San Diego years ago that had a female Malamute. That was one of the coolest dogs I have ever been around. Always wanted one after that. She was cool, calm, collected. Not excitable. That dog just seemed completely comfortable in the world. But fiercely protective.

    My wife really misses our lab as much if not more than I do. She is lobbying for a Tibetan Mastiff. I've told here she's effing nuts. Unfortunately there's someone not far from me (around Hummelstown) that just had a litter. Luckily for me my wife is directionally challenged and can't read a map to save her life.

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    That is a perfect description of ghost (none / 0) (#47)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 03:30:59 PM EST
    Besides being protective there is something about the way the "look" at you with those spooky beautiful blue eyes that scares the hell out of people

    Are you sure you don't want a mastiff?

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    Have you looked up (none / 0) (#52)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 03:44:36 PM EST
    TIBETAN mastiff??? They are as big as lions. HUUUGE. I don't know if I can afford to feed one. They weigh like 200+ lbs. We'd have to use lawn bags to clean up after it. The regular bag from the grocery store won't cut it.

    They look cool. And of course the puppies are super dooper cute. But's that a lot of dog.


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    Ha (none / 0) (#58)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 04:36:15 PM EST
    I know one.  He is like a living teddy bear.  A really big living teddy bear.  Big yard required

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    Great description for an absolutely gorgeous dog. (none / 0) (#59)
    by vml68 on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 04:53:31 PM EST
    He is like a living teddy bear.  A really big living teddy bear.

    Chuck, I am very good with directions, I will happily drive your wife to go pick up the pup :-)

    Speaking of "living teddy bears", I have always wanted a Newfoundland but apartment/condo living was not conducive to having one. We are finally going to have a big yard at our new house and I have started casually mentioning it to my husband. Softening him up for the kill :-)

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    In addition to a big yard (none / 0) (#60)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 05:03:19 PM EST
    You will need a good dog groomer

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    For both (none / 0) (#61)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 05:04:35 PM EST


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    GPS (none / 0) (#49)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 03:32:56 PM EST


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    All I remember about Tibetan Mastiffs (none / 0) (#87)
    by jondee on Fri Mar 16, 2018 at 12:12:47 PM EST
    is what the author of The Snow Leopard said about the ones in the villages in Nepal, which was that they all seemed like they wanted to rip someone's throat out at the first opportunity.

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    Be (5.00 / 1) (#88)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 16, 2018 at 12:17:10 PM EST
    afraid

    or not

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    PS (none / 0) (#41)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 03:14:05 PM EST
    I had a white Siberian husky named Ghost before there was a Game of Thrones.

    Many commenters here know that.  Some might not.

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    Too true... (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 03:29:20 PM EST
    their husky was an escape artist, and would never come home on his own accord.  He's mellowed since they took his nuts away though and stopped digging under the fences.

    If there were any fertile females around before then though, he's definitely a dead-beat daddy.  

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    I had a deadbeat dad when I was a kid (none / 0) (#50)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 03:38:32 PM EST
    A larger miniature poodle. I won a lot of obedience trial ribbons with him. He could also climb most fences like a ladder. He was the family embarrassment.

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    Why do you assume (none / 0) (#27)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 02:38:36 PM EST
    A dog lover.  And not just a psycho freak like, well, you know.

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    Yeah... (none / 0) (#48)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 03:31:59 PM EST
    coulda been a a-hole neighbor with a simple axe to grind, but they generally get on well with the neighbors.

    There is a suspect, some dog lady who walks two dogs wearing sweaters (talk about animal cruelty!) through their cul-de-sac but doesn't live in the immediate vicinity.

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    I would call you dog smart (none / 0) (#16)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 12:36:28 PM EST
    Anyone who walks up to unknown dogs and starts petting them is what I would call naive

    There are more and more ground pet shippers.

    I don't really want pets in the plane cabin either. Unless maybe it's a little bulldog and it sits with me :)

    My sister-in-law took her grown lab with her in the cabin moving to Germany and back. She is an impeccably trained dog though. Not all are.

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    This! (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by vml68 on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 01:18:42 PM EST
    I would call you dog smart. Anyone who walks up to unknown dogs and starts petting them is what I would call naive

    I have quite a bit of experience with dogs, my own and volunteering at a shelter and I never pet a dog without first checking with whomever is at the other end of the leash.
    I cringe every time I see parents let their children run up to strange dogs. Cute little toddler's face inches away from the very sharp teeth of an unknown animal is an accident waiting to happen.

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    Yes, a lot of scars made that way (none / 0) (#32)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 02:49:17 PM EST
    Some people never get over being bitten in the face :( They distrust all dogs for the rest of their lives. And some dogs are just grouchy, maybe ache and hurt from old age, or just one person oriented.

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    I am absolutely crazy about dogs but I totally get (none / 0) (#17)
    by vml68 on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 01:08:49 PM EST
    that some people aren't. I've never understood why some dog people judge/give others a hard time for not liking dogs.

    The only time we have flown a dog was when travelling from the middle-east to the US. During the layover in Frankfurt, the pilot came up to my parents and said that he had just found out that our dog was on the flight and that had he known earlier, he would have checked on our pup during the flight. Anyway, he went and checked on our pup and reported back that he was doing fine. That dog was a veteran flier, I think he probably had more frequent flier miles than most people in this country.

    When we were moving to FL, husband's company offered to pay to fly our dogs here, but with all the horror stories about pets on airlines, I was not willing to risk it. We drove down with them instead.
    When I have to travel, I either drive with my dogs if at all possible or I board my dogs.

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    My opinion (none / 0) (#20)
    by linea on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 01:30:40 PM EST
    Animals should not be on aircraft unless they are in the cargo area. I would also like dogs banned from trains, and from bars, restaurants, grocery stores particularly the fresh produce section, and from pharmacies particularly from having their paws on the druggist counter.

    I used to like dogs, when dogs were kept in the backyard of a house in the suburbs for the children to play with. Now that I live in the city, I hate dogs.

    A day doesn't go by without seeing a dog urinate on a metal pole bolted to the concrete on a busy sidewalk or dropping feces on a small area of the sidewalk not covered in concrete. And let me clue everyone in, `taking the dog for a walk' means `walk the dog down the block to have it sh!t on somebody else's lawn.' Also, no, dragging someone to watch your dog sh!t in the park isn't a date and girlfriends are not responsible to do `poo duty' for your dog because you're busy.

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    Boyfriend trouble? (5.00 / 4) (#21)
    by vml68 on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 01:46:55 PM EST
    Also, no, dragging someone to watch your dog sh!t in the park isn't a date and girlfriends are not responsible to do `poo duty' for your dog because you're busy.

    Maybe, a 'people with pets need not apply' sign is needed.

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    No Dogs or Libertarians (none / 0) (#24)
    by linea on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 02:12:29 PM EST


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    Dogs are NOT (5.00 / 3) (#26)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 02:34:32 PM EST
    kept to be left outside in the backyard. Note story by kdog about the husky. That's a case of dog who prefers the outdoors and that's fine. But dogs, like it or not, are friends, companions and family members. My black lab, Napoleon was put to sleep exactly one year ago and I miss him terribly.

    Having a dog is a responsibility. If you can't be responsible for your dog, don't have one. But I don't for the life of me, understand your issue with a dog urinating on a pole. Jeez, you know it down rain, a lot, where you live.

    Feces on the other hand, goes to that responsibility thing. Everyone should clean up after their dog. We cleaned up after Napoleon even when he went in your own yard. Much less anywhere else. I chased a guy down the street one day because would let his two (large) dogs dump anywhere and not clean up after them. I guess I scared him, because he's never back on our block or even in the alley. I see him around, but never in my neighborhood.

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    I've had more than a few (5.00 / 3) (#33)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 02:56:58 PM EST
    Noisy confrontations with stupid irresponsible dog walkers.

    And I completely agree about not having a dog if all you want to do is tie it to a tree or stick it in a pen (rural) or stick it in a tiny kennel in the back bedroom until you want to use it as a fashion accessory (urban).

    I have saved several dogs from this kind of abuse.

    Two of the dogs I have now.  The Golden was in a tiny 8 x 8 pen in the yard of an old lady on my meals on wheels route.  It belonged to her daughter who did not want to take care of it and he chased her chickens.  So in the pen for life.

    The lab I just got recently belonged to a relative who also wanted a dog in the abstract.  It ended up stuck in a tiny pen at my sister's house.

    Years ago I rescued another golden from the fashion accessory type

    I really hate that shi+

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    I've p:ssed behind too many... (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 04:28:38 PM EST
    hedges, lampposts, and dumpsters to criticize.

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    Really? (none / 0) (#34)
    by linea on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 03:00:24 PM EST
    Re: `But I don't for the life of me, understand your issue with a dog urinating on a pole.`

    It's perfectly reasonable that people have to walk through puddles of urine from your dog on busy urban sidewalks?

    We don't let meth-addicts urinate and defecate on the sidewalk but it's cute when you dog does it? I suppose puddles of dog urine in elevators and the accompanying smell is cute too?

    It would also be nice if people weren't restricted to the walkways in parks because every square inch of the beautifully trimmed grass is covered in dog feces.

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    What a tortured (5.00 / 2) (#38)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 03:05:56 PM EST
    Life you must have

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    oy vay! (none / 0) (#42)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 03:19:16 PM EST


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    buy galoshes. (none / 0) (#53)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 03:47:25 PM EST


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    Apparently (none / 0) (#55)
    by linea on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 03:51:48 PM EST
    Dog owners claim to hate those OTHER `stupid irresponsible' dog owners but are completely clueless why having their german shepherd piss on the sidewalk in downtown Seattle might not be appreciated. Pretty sure the owner of the dog that urinated in the produce section of my local grocery store didn't understand what the big fuss was about either, And maybe not every flower garden and green space in the city should be a place for you to let your dog defecate.

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    Your complaints just absurd. (5.00 / 3) (#64)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 05:35:03 PM EST
    No one. Absolutely no one here is saying that dogs urinating in elevators or grocery stores is OK. I don't think I've EVER seen someone walking a dog on a leash in a grocery store in my entire life. If that's a common occurrence in Seattle, that's a Seattle problem. Your local grocery store has a problem.

    Somehow I've managed to stroll through every major city in America (and some cities in what I'm sure you consider "dangerous third world" countries) and not once, ever, have I had to wade through puddles of dog urine. Or any other kind of urine.


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    Here you go (none / 0) (#70)
    by linea on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 06:06:48 PM EST
    A Friendly Reminder That Dogs Are Not People and Bringing Them to the Grocery Store Is Disgusting and Repulsive
    The Stranger

    Dog owners flaunting rules, bringing pets in stores
    KOMO News

    Grocery store owners cited for allowing dogs inside
    KIRO-TV 7


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    Fixed link (none / 0) (#71)
    by linea on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 06:18:26 PM EST

    A Friendly Reminder That Dogs Are Not People and Bringing Them to the Grocery Store Is Disgusting and Repulsive
    The Stranger


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    And (none / 0) (#72)
    by linea on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 06:30:50 PM EST

    Comments on the article.

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    Oh! Well (none / 0) (#73)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 06:33:23 PM EST
    Comments!

    That's better than bullet points.

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    I don't believe any said the hate them (none / 0) (#56)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 04:06:33 PM EST
    But I will share this.  It's fun to see a lifelong prejudice confirmed.  That is a person who does not like dogs is not to be trusted and their opinion on any other subject is auestionable.  

    At best.

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    I don't hate all dogs. (none / 0) (#62)
    by linea on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 05:10:17 PM EST
    I just hate people like you and the 90% of dog owners who are so inconsiderate and narcissistic as to be confused why anyone would be irritated with your dog urinating and defecating on public sidewalks.

    My opinion, if you don't own you own house and property for your dog to defecate on then you shouldn't own a dog.


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    You might want to rethink where you live. (none / 0) (#63)
    by vml68 on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 05:22:53 PM EST
    Seattle is the 2nd most pet-friendly city in the U.S.

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    Seattle (none / 0) (#66)
    by linea on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 05:44:33 PM EST
    Seattle is `pet friendly' because there are so many single people who own dogs and live in apartments in the city. The fact that so many of these narcissistic unattached people (using their dog as a surrogate for an actual human relationship) cluelessly bring their dogs into restaurants, grocery stores, the druggist, and let their dog relieve themselves on the public sidewalk - doesn't make it appropriate behavior.

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    Quite the little ray of sunshine, aren't you. (5.00 / 2) (#69)
    by vml68 on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 05:47:39 PM EST
    You must be a hoot at parties!

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    And some people are single because (5.00 / 1) (#79)
    by Anne on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 07:18:58 PM EST
    they have such grating and hectoring personalities that people want to flee the rhetorical peeing and pooping that accompanies any interaction with them.

    Bitter much, linea?  Jesus.

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    Interesting bit in that link (none / 0) (#67)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 05:45:05 PM EST
    About dog friendly work places.  This is a growing phenom.

    In cities I always had one dog.  I worked many places, all of my last 4 or 5 jobs, that allowed you to bring your dog to work.

    My dog spent many long days sleeping in my cube or under my desk.

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    I don't believe (none / 0) (#68)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 05:47:02 PM EST
    He ever peed there.  

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    Really linea? (none / 0) (#74)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 06:52:05 PM EST
    You hate people like CaptHowdy?  Hate? Really?

    I can see maybe annoyed or perturbed, but hate? Really?

    Everybody poops, everybody pees

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    I would say (5.00 / 1) (#77)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 07:12:47 PM EST
    I wear it as a badge of honor but it really doesn't seem to be much of a distinction in this case.

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    You're in good company. (5.00 / 1) (#80)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 07:22:45 PM EST
    She's not too enamored with Stephen Hawking either.

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    I have cleaned up after little people (none / 0) (#78)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 07:16:40 PM EST
    Who finger painted with their poop. I still don't hate them :)

    I hope I never finger paint with my poop, but truly, who can be sure it won't happen to them?

    Hate is such a strong emotion for average body functions though hahaha

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    When we sold our Bama house (none / 0) (#82)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 07:26:46 PM EST
    We had that $20,000 AC system because of my allergies. It was on a pad but I did not fence it off from the rest of the yard. This was one of MY big sales bullet points for my house. The guy who did the final maintenance on it says, "Oh yeah, and your dogs don't hike a leg on your air conditioner." I asked him how he could be sure. He said it starts destroying the coil and once it starts it can't be stopped. I almost had a heart attack hahaha. I just can't be mad about dogs peeing right now :)

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    How self-entitled (none / 0) (#75)
    by linea on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 07:09:56 PM EST
    `Everybody poops, everybody pees` so it must be fine to bring your doggie to the grocery store and restaurant and he has a little poopsie accident? It's not like you clean up the poop.

    You Know the Central District Has Gentrified When Polite Drug Dealers Have Been Replaced by Obnoxious Dog Owners

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    Who is doing that? (5.00 / 1) (#76)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 07:12:10 PM EST
    People's dogs all over Safeway and Whole Foods taking dumps.

    It's a pooping crime wave.

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    this isn't about you Linea (none / 0) (#86)
    by Jeralyn on Fri Mar 16, 2018 at 11:32:56 AM EST
    It's about United Air Lines.

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    lots of stramen, linea (none / 0) (#92)
    by MKS on Fri Mar 16, 2018 at 01:43:38 PM EST
    Don't believe there are that many dog owners who are okay with dogs urinating and defecating in stores, etc. I suppose it can happen, but no one here supports or condones that.

    Urinating outdoors on the sidewalk:  The outdoor environment takes care of this without much nuisance.  Some types of grass cannot withstand dog urine, and yellow spots on grass occur.  But this would seem a rather small issue.

    I would guess you are not fan of the movie Homeward Bound.

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    You sure it was a dog? (none / 0) (#91)
    by jondee on Fri Mar 16, 2018 at 12:58:58 PM EST
    I've seen incontinent elderly folks have 'accidents' in public along those lines..

    Or maybe it was one of the scores of fabulously thin vagrants Seattle is famous for.

    I used to live in Seattle, from my perspective, dogs peeing and pooping on the sidewalk was the least of that city's problems.

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    When I visited (none / 0) (#93)
    by MKS on Fri Mar 16, 2018 at 01:46:35 PM EST
    Seattle, it had a lot of grit and dirt seemingly everywhere downtown.  All that run off from rain, I suppose--although you would think everything would be pristine, as in just washed from the rain.

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    Rain myth regarding Seattle (none / 0) (#94)
    by jmacWA on Fri Mar 16, 2018 at 03:10:42 PM EST
    Seattle, Washington    37.7"
    New York, New York    49.9"

    Seattle does get more rain than LA or SF... but it is far from the image that it has.

    They never try to push back on the image; having lived there I always assumed it was to keep people from moving in.   

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    Liquid Sunshine (none / 0) (#95)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Mar 16, 2018 at 03:29:14 PM EST


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    Seattle ave # rainy days/year: 152. (none / 0) (#98)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Mar 16, 2018 at 07:16:38 PM EST
    NYC ave # rainy days/year: 121.

    That's a full month more of rain.

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    A month full of mist (none / 0) (#99)
    by jmacWA on Sat Mar 17, 2018 at 05:53:33 AM EST
    not rain

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    Cargo is a rough place to fly (none / 0) (#15)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 12:28:10 PM EST
    Temperature fluctuations and changes in air pressure. Most short nosed dogs are banned from flying cargo because they have difficulty cooling themselves. And global warming is making pet shipping more challenging. I saw one of my favorite poodle people post that air shipping was already beginning to be discouraged or disallowed because of possible heat challenges. The airlines can't promise us pets will be okay in cargo even this time of year now.

    A little bulldog may have only been allowed in the cabin. They are one of those most challenged breeds for temperature fluctuations.

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    The family paid $200 to (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by caseyOR on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 03:12:38 PM EST
    fly that little dog in the cabin. United's rules state that pets in the cabin must be in a carrier at all times, and the carrier must be placed under the seat.

    I have no problem with cats or dogs in the cabin provided they are kept in an appropriate carrier for the flight. The carrier size restriction, it must fit under the seat, limits the size of pets in the cabin. So, no German Shepherds or Great Danes.

    It appears this family followed all of United's rules.

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    Poor dog, poor family (none / 0) (#46)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 03:29:34 PM EST
    I have had a flight attendant make me place a bag overhead that on other flights other flight attendants were fine with sort of under my seat.

    I've never fully understood what constitutes not under my seat enough. Not much room down there. A bit of a gray area.

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    German Shepard, Great Dane. What's the difference? (none / 0) (#7)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 11:28:48 AM EST
    I'da kept the Dane.

    There was some discussion here the other day about the dangers of pit bulls, here's a cheery story from last week of a wolf-dog hybrid killing an 8-day old infant in VA.

    I lived with a Dane once (5.00 / 2) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 12:02:13 PM EST
    Wonderful dogs.  But heart breakers because they have such a short lifespan

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    We've had two. (none / 0) (#14)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 12:23:24 PM EST
    One killed by a car at age two, the last lived to almost 12. Had a dream about her a couple nights ago, woke up crying.

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    That's pretty old (none / 0) (#25)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 02:33:54 PM EST
    For a dane

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    Ya. We keep our dogs fit, not fat. (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 02:41:58 PM EST
    Maybe it helps, who knows.

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    It definitely does (none / 0) (#31)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 02:42:52 PM EST
    Restricted diet healthy dog

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    At recent vet appointment, vet commented on (none / 0) (#35)
    by vml68 on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 03:00:55 PM EST
    the fact that my yellow lab was very fit unlike most labs he sees who tend to be overweight, including his own!
    I agree, a fit dog is a healthier dog. Also, the fact that my dog broke his leg when he was younger and has a steel plate and ten screws in his right hind leg, means keeping him on the lighter side reduces the stress on that leg.

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    Lazy owners again (none / 0) (#37)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 15, 2018 at 03:04:32 PM EST
    It's easier to dump a bag of food into a giant tub and let your dog eat sheen they feel like it rather than feeding them

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    Ya. A good friend of ours has a little dog (none / 0) (#90)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Mar 16, 2018 at 12:51:17 PM EST
    that's so fat it pants 24/7/365, regardless of how hot or cold the weather is. I think because there's so much fat in his body around his chest/lungs that he can't get a full lung-full of air.

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    When I lived in LA (none / 0) (#96)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 16, 2018 at 03:35:46 PM EST
    And could afford a cleaning lady she had a 32 pound Chihuahua

    The thing looked like mini pig

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    I'M SORRY (none / 0) (#84)
    by linea on Fri Mar 16, 2018 at 01:48:12 AM EST
    I'm sorry for clogging this thread with my irritation of dogs.

    I can like individual dogs very much if I am introduced to them slowly and don't feel overwhelmed. But strange dogs frighten me and I typically express my anxiety as irritation. Yes, I'm even frightened of little dogs.

    Understandable I guess (5.00 / 3) (#85)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 16, 2018 at 10:38:34 AM EST
    Stephen Hawking was pretty scary

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    Why are you such a jerk? (none / 0) (#97)
    by linea on Fri Mar 16, 2018 at 04:25:59 PM EST
    Why are you always trolling me?

    In a different thread I explained, in my opinion, why I wasn't a fan. Why are you dragging that around, from thread to thread, days later trying to troll and pester me?

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