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Trump vs.The World on Detaining Migrant Children

As if Donald Trump hasn't done enough to debase our country and its values, he's stepping in another pile of dung today. It will shortly be announced that the U.S. is withdrawing from the U.N. Human Rights Council.

Trump thinks he can trample on the rights of the disenfranchised, including children.He hopes to misdirect the conversation to lay blame on Democrats. It's a con game. The carnival barker is demanding Democrats pass an immigration bill with funding for his border wall.

McClatchy reports today that data shows officials may have lost track of 6,000 children. [More...]

Trump started this fiasco with his two immigration orders in early 2017. Those orders paved the way forJefferson Sessions' announcement of a zero-tolerance policy in April. ICE statistics show that by the end of May, more than 2,000 children have been locked up without their parents.

This is not okay. This is not acceptable. Read what this Pediatricians' organization had to say about it a year ago.

Republicans will rue the day they stood behind such an inhumane policy.

In the meantime, please contribute to the ACLU and immigration rights groups who can take Trump to Court, and groups that will provide financial and other support to the families affected.

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    David Gergen just said on CNN (5.00 / 6) (#3)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 05:57:21 PM EST
    This is "Trumps Katrina"  I've been hearing this all day.

    But if I remember Trump already had a Katrina.  Gergen probably did not pundit that much about Puerto Rico.


    Katrina (5.00 / 3) (#5)
    by FlJoe on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 06:47:51 PM EST
    unmasked incompetence, indifference and the usual  whiff of racism. Basically generic Republicanism, exposed by a semi predictable disaster.

    This is has unmasked a monster purposely created by the hands of Miller, Sessions, Bannon and Kelley and proudly unmasked the beast themselves.

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    Katrina (5.00 / 2) (#10)
    by MKS on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 09:04:54 PM EST
    was the result of neglect.

    This is deliberately malicious.  They are proud in the White House of what they are doing.  They delight in letting the world know how tough they are.  

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    They are (none / 0) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 09:09:54 PM EST
    I believe their confidence in this particular effort is misguided.  Actually, misguidedZILLA

    I the baby jails story is horrifying

    Unbelievable.

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    They have got to find (5.00 / 2) (#14)
    by MKS on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 09:18:41 PM EST
    and get photos of the girls and toddlers.

    They are hiding something.

    How many have been lost or abducted already?

    Parent

    We've got 3 baby jails in Texas (none / 0) (#15)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 09:32:36 PM EST
    A 4th one going in in Houston.

    Cuomo has listed 3 immigrant child jails being used in New York.

    Parent

    Yeah (none / 0) (#4)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 06:44:14 PM EST
    Rick Wilson said he got a DM from some big pro Trump pollster who said Trump has a week before everything collapses on him.

    His horrible actions in Puerto Rico went virtually unreported after a point in time.

    This is a lot like Katrina because once again it is POC that are being treated inhumanely.

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    Trump got a pass on everyone (none / 0) (#12)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 09:08:51 PM EST
    He killed in Puerto Rico.

    The press wasn't going to hear our screams until babies were screaming.

    They still seem reluctant to not be complicit enablers

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    We are damned (5.00 / 6) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 08:41:41 PM EST

    Youngest migrants held in `tender age' shelters
    By GARANCE BURKE AND MARTHA MENDOZA
    19 minutes ago


    Trump administration officials have been sending babies and other young children forcibly separated from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border to at least three "tender age" shelters in South Texas, The Associated Press has learned.

    Rachel just broke down on air reading this.  It was real.

    Tweet (none / 0) (#9)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 08:54:55 PM EST
    All from this Associated Press story that broke while I was on the air tonight, but which I was unable to read on the air:

    Again, I apologize for losing it there for a moment.  Not the way I intended that to go, not by a mile

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    This is actually worth watching (none / 0) (#17)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 07:44:07 AM EST
    a rare moment of actual humanity on cable news

    I saw it happen and found moving

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    Child abuse!!! (none / 0) (#11)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 09:06:44 PM EST
    Damage, long term damage

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    Corey Lewandowski mocks disabled girl (5.00 / 3) (#21)
    by Yman on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 10:05:09 AM EST
    He was sitting on a panel when someone was relating the story of a 10 year old girl with Down's Syndrome who was taken from her mother.  His reaction was to roll his eyes and say "Womp, Womp."

    There's a special place in he// for scumb@gs like this.

    My fear is that they will not be able to (5.00 / 4) (#29)
    by ruffian on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 11:05:17 AM EST
    reunite the families, even after they come to their senses and stop doing this. I have no faith that decent records have been kept.

    These "people" don't give two sh*ts... (5.00 / 3) (#46)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 10:43:11 PM EST
    about these kids or their health or well being. Witness this...

    President Donald Trump's zero tolerance policy is creating a zombie army of children forcibly injected with medications that make them dizzy, listless, obese and even incapacitated, according to legal filings that show immigrant children in U.S. custody subdued with powerful psychiatric drugs.

    Conducting medical experiments on kids forcibly removed from their parents and put in camps - words fail me.  Can we call them what they truly are - nazi's - yet?

    On a related note (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 05:22:17 PM EST
    If I had clicked the link first (none / 0) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 05:24:02 PM EST
    I would have seen that was in the sub head.

    My bad

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    This is not (none / 0) (#6)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 07:33:16 PM EST
    the first time the GOP has supported child separation. Remember Elian Gonzalez anyone?

    Yes. That was awful. The media didn't help. (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 07:52:05 PM EST
    While I realize that Attorney General Janet Reno probably cost Democratic presidential nominee Al Gore a lot of votes in Florida's Cuban American community, she nevertheless stood on principle and absolutely did the right thing by ordering the FBI to barge into that house and seize the boy to return to his father back home in Havana. Lázaro and Marisleysis González's 15 minutes were up.

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    News (none / 0) (#16)
    by linea on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 11:26:00 PM EST
    Re: U.S. is withdrawing from the U.N. Human Rights Council

    My opinion, this is getting more attention in Europe than the US. It's front page on SVT News with a photo of UN Ambassador Nikki Haley.

    My interpretive translation (not exact):

    Donald Trump's administration in the United Statss seems to rate one thing higher than anyone else -- while the UN Human Rights Council has played an important role in countries such as North Korea, Syria, Myanmar (Burma) and South Sudan, all the trumpets seem to be attentive to is defending Israel.


    If any of you actually believe (none / 0) (#18)
    by Chuck0 on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 08:38:05 AM EST
    that Bone Spurs will back down from this, you are all sadly delusional. He will not. He will never, ever admit it was wrong, or that it was a mistake. Never. At best, he will lay the blame on Sessions and use it as an excuse to finally fire him. But I have my doubts. This is a political move, plain and simple. It is leverage to force a bill that completely funds his wall. Why do you think he's blaming Democrats in Congress. Why is he lobbying Congress so hard all of a sudden. He believe this will get his wall.

    And I tell you, should the Democrats cave over this issue and become complicit in funding this waste of time and money, I will never, ever vote for a Democrat for what is left of my life. Never. They have been cowards for too long, afraid to fight dirty, afraid to fight in the trenches.

    Yes, this policy is abominable. I agree with MKS that this administration should charged with Crimes Against Humanity. But if the Democrats cave and give him the wall over this, what's next? There is no depths to the depravity of this worthless excuse of human excrement. And that extends to Sessions. What despicable action will the oompah loompah take next to get something he promised his looney tune followers?

    DO NOT CAVE TO THIS BLACKMAIL.

    You are right (none / 0) (#19)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 08:53:01 AM EST
    He will never "back down"

    But I really think he will find a way to blame someo else, Neilsen, Sessions, and reverse this.

    IMO the most remarkable bit from last night's meeting with the peanut gallery was his admission the his daughter, the Nazi princess, had come to him and explained that this "looks bad"

    Honest to god.  Not that it WAS BAD. Not that it was horrific and inhuman and a abomination but that it "looks bad".

    It's starting to sink in to this TV president that Miller and Bannon were wrong.  This is not a winning issue.  

    He is IMO desperately flailing to find a way, a goat, a sacrifice.

    I completely agree if democrats cave they do not deserve to win.  Unlike you I think - for once - they might JUST understand this.

    As the backlash grows I become more hopeful.

    I said before this will not stand.  

    By the end of the week it will be fixed.

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    If nothing else (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 09:10:01 AM EST
    Cheeto and Eva, I mean Ivanka, understand that video of the baby jails is coming.

    They are evil.  Not stupid.

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    At the time of (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 10:19:13 AM EST
    the "feckless Ivanka" matter, and the Madonna pose holding her children in her arms, I believed it was a signal to white mothers not to be concerned, the Trump policy was for brown children...white mothers be not concerned.

      Not to push Godwin's rule, but symbols were needed at that time to re-assure just who were the scapegoats, and just too much of Trump is following that script.


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    Toldyaso (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 10:45:20 AM EST
    Reversal coming today

    Google it

    Parent

    Yep, got to get (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 10:48:44 AM EST
    ahead of those inevitable photos of the toddler's gulag.

    Parent
    The (5.00 / 2) (#38)
    by FlJoe on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 04:03:35 PM EST
    Mask is carefully reapplied to the monsters face, the blood is scrubbed from his tiny hands, spin doctors and apologists huddle in cramped offices, crafting the next big lie. By this time next week they will be telling the world  that it was tRump and tRump alone that was able to thwart the deep state's child snatching.

    Hopefully the pundits won't ever let this go but I wouldn't put much money on it. Even more hopefully enough Republicans will discover a shred of decency to actually stand up to this monster, but I would probably bet against that in the long run.  

    Maybe just maybe this actually the hill he dies on, or maybe the monster can't be slayed and we are doomed. If this ugliness is allowed to pass and fade into the turbulent wake, then ........      

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    I think there is slim chance of fading (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 04:34:32 PM EST
    Thousands of children are now in limbo.  Many may never be reunited with their family again.  This will be a story for months if not years.  These children will be followed and bioed and advocated for.

    I think more importantly in a political sense a significant number of red state republicans were about to flip on Trump.  They really were.  And they made it clear.  Their red constituents had signaled they could.   That in the end is the only reason this happened

    I think that is huge.  Possibly the most significant political event since the election.

    I believe we have found the bottom.

    Parent

    The June 30 event (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 04:36:42 PM EST
    Will still happen for a start.

    Parent
    True (none / 0) (#41)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 04:54:22 PM EST
    because even if he actually stops separating families from now on there's still a couple of month's worth of carnage from his policy.

    Parent
    Yep, got to get (none / 0) (#28)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 10:49:03 AM EST
    ahead of those inevitable photos of the toddler's gulag.

    Parent
    Does that mean (none / 0) (#31)
    by MKS on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 12:24:52 PM EST
    He gets the Nobel Peace Prize? After all, he solved a problem he reated.  Just like Korea. He is getting kudos for reducung tensions that he escalated.

    Parent
    "Created" (none / 0) (#33)
    by MKS on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 12:25:57 PM EST
    Does that mean (none / 0) (#32)
    by MKS on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 12:25:06 PM EST
    He gets the Nobel Peace Prize? After all, he solved a problem he reated.  Just like Korea. He is getting kudos for reducung tensions that he escalated.

    Parent
    I don't know, Captain, evil as they come, but (none / 0) (#42)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 05:25:46 PM EST
    you have to be good at evil..Trump, Feckless Ivanka, et al. are not all that bright. The executive order just released, the one that Trump has been saying for weeks that he could not do, misspelled separate. Not a big deal in and of itself, but symbolic of their incompetence that is  the hope of our democracy.  But, you are right they are smart enough when their very survival is at stake.

    Parent
    What, you expect these "people" (5.00 / 2) (#44)
    by Peter G on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 05:52:44 PM EST
    to have graduated from seventh grade?

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    I saw that (none / 0) (#43)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 05:29:58 PM EST
    Congress will give it to him (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Yman on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 10:08:54 AM EST
    They'll pass something which he will be able to point to and say, "See?  I told you we needed Congress to pass a law to fix this horrible situation, which I had nothing to do with and which is all the Democrat's fault!".

    His supporters will actually believe it.

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    His supporters (5.00 / 4) (#35)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 02:15:03 PM EST
    will believe anything. I don't care about what they think. It's the other 65% of the population that I am concerned with.

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    Yep (none / 0) (#23)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 10:15:46 AM EST
    Yes, they will go (none / 0) (#26)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 10:45:58 AM EST
    from jailing parents and children separately to jailing them together.  Which is Republican progress.  And, yes, whatever happens, from blaming the Democrats, to claiming only 3 percent ever show for hearings will be believed by his supporters, because Trump is the best..liar.  He has a lifetime of practice and knows no other way.

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    There are reports now of drugged children (none / 0) (#47)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jun 21, 2018 at 03:09:24 AM EST
    And children held in solitary confinement nude.

    Trump will likely need someone to blame.

    He regrets so many of his past firings now I think he will drag his feet holding anyone accountable. If he does fire someone please let him fire Nielsen!

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    It is so hard to decide (5.00 / 3) (#48)
    by Peter G on Thu Jun 21, 2018 at 07:24:14 PM EST
    what should be Article I in the bill of impeachment. I cannot fathom how detaining minors in government camps, for any reason at all -- and worse, if these new stories are true -- rather than placing them in foster care (which is bad enough) is remotely constitutional.

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    The beginning of the backpedal in underway (none / 0) (#30)
    by CoralGables on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 12:20:17 PM EST


    Well, I'm just waiting for the next.. (none / 0) (#34)
    by desertswine on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 12:58:32 PM EST
    outrage.

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    As far as I am concerned, Tr*mp is the (5.00 / 2) (#37)
    by vml68 on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 03:07:00 PM EST
    outrage.

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    Indeed. (none / 0) (#45)
    by desertswine on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 07:44:10 PM EST
    Give him 24 hours (none / 0) (#36)
    by CoralGables on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 02:27:56 PM EST