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Kamala Harris Picks MN Gov Tim Walz as Running Mate

It's official. Democratic nominee for President Kamala Harris has announced on Instagram that she has selected MN Governor Tim Walz to be her running mate. (Instagram? seriously? Yes. I guess it's how you reach people in their 20's in hopes of getting them to support the addition of a 60 year old white male on ticket).

Why Walz over PA Governor Josh Shapiro? Is it because Shapiro, like Harris' husband, is Jewish and supports Israel? How did Walz even get on Harris' radar so quickly? [More...]

I'm disappointed to see an older white male (from a mayonnaise-y mid-western state no less) on the ticket. Especially someone I've never heard of before this past week.

Harris says she picked him because of his support for the middle class. I think the middle class is at work today, not reading Instagram.

It's all pretty much besides the point, since keeping the grifter Donald Trump (and his brood of talentless, undeserving children waiting in the wings for their turn) away from the oval office is the goal. So, Harris and Walz it is. I'm on board.

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    Walz is 60 years old... (5.00 / 6) (#4)
    by desertswine on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 01:17:25 PM EST
    Tump is old enough to be his father.

    I love that the man was (5.00 / 5) (#18)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 04:16:44 PM EST
    The advisor (or whatever you call it) for an LGBT student group way back when he was teaching.

    I said it should be a midwesterner. (5.00 / 2) (#19)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 04:46:18 PM EST
    (or Mitch Landrieu). I think Walz was the perfect choice. I am happy Shapiro is staying in PA (selfishly). He's on TV right now giving a great speech. Shapiro will be President one day. I am sure of it. I may not live to see it, but I think he is headed to the White House.

    Walz is the cool, fun uncle at Thanksgiving.


    Jeralyn, Jeralyn, for shame! (5.00 / 8) (#20)
    by Peter G on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 04:48:14 PM EST
    Your NYC suburban roots and chosen Denver homebase are showing! To attack Harris's choice of Walz as disappointing because he is "(from a mayonnaise-y mid-western state no less)" is beneath you. Unseemly appearance of looking down your nose at folks based on a stereotype, and not even a valid one. Lots of great progressive folks (including very personally relatable ones), including several outstanding contributors to this blog, are from the midwest. Not to mention the heartland's progressive history, as Towanda will often remind us.  Walz is like everyone's favorite high school social studies teacher, it seems to me; what's not to like? (I'm all-Northeast urban, as you know, but I even like mayonnaise on certain foods, not that that is either here nor there.)

    Thank you, Peter (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by Zorba on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 05:01:33 PM EST
    I agree.

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    Thank you Peter (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by MO Blue on Wed Aug 07, 2024 at 09:29:50 AM EST
    From the heartland. Great people in fly over states.

    Parent
    I've Read Wikipedia on Mayonnaise (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by RickyJim on Wed Aug 07, 2024 at 09:58:22 AM EST
    And still can't understand what a "mayonnaise-y mid-western state" is; or even why calling Minnesota that is some sort of insult.  I can't wait to try the sriracha variety.

    Parent
    Try (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by Towanda on Wed Aug 07, 2024 at 10:17:43 PM EST
    Trader Joe's wasabe mayo.

    Why, yes, we have Trader Joe's in the Midwest.

    We also have great governors. Walz was my preference, having followed him for a while to learn what a lot of you will learn about him and his great work in my next-door state.

    I also am a fan of Pritzker in another state next door to me, where you couldn't survive Wiener's Circle, Jeralyn.

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    OT. Trader Joe's still makes the wasabi mayo? (none / 0) (#47)
    by vml68 on Wed Aug 07, 2024 at 10:33:17 PM EST
    I haven't been able to find it for a while.

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    I will join the chorus of thank you, Peters (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by leap2 on Wed Aug 07, 2024 at 02:16:59 PM EST
    I have wonderful family in Minnesota, smart, funny, very politically savvy, super progressive. One is in the State Legis. I've known about Walz for years. And Minnesotans. There's lots more going on there than mayonnaise and hot dishes. Walz is a great choice for veep. Certainly better than Shapiro, who has too much baggage (school voucher supporter, too close to the bad $h!t with the Gaza fiasco). So good on Kamala!

    Parent
    Thank you, Peter (5.00 / 3) (#46)
    by Towanda on Wed Aug 07, 2024 at 10:22:15 PM EST
    Jeralyn is sadly uninformed about Minnesota's great political traditions. My Dad grew up across the river from Minnesota and raised me as, essentially, a Democratic Socialist, as the party is called in Minnesota.

    Many great pols have come from Minnesota. For one, Al Franken is NOT mayo.

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    Another in agreement (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by artsypunk on Thu Aug 08, 2024 at 07:18:45 AM EST
    I've read this blog for many years and never posted until now. The punching down on the Midwest always gets me riled up. So yes, Jaralyn - bad taste with this; please stop.

    And for the others, a funny "tell me you're from MN without telling me you're from MN" story...
    A local small-business gym posted something that cracked me up the other day. A member had left home in haste, in order to make the morning gym meetup on time. He thought he had grabbed his workout shorts to change into. Guess what he actually had grabbed? A bag of walleye fillets that was left out, thawing. The photo is hilarious, because as ridiculous as it sounds, (that couldn't happen), his situation actually looks understandable.

    Parent

    Huge mayo fan here (none / 0) (#51)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Aug 08, 2024 at 08:44:31 AM EST
    Both pieces of bread.

    And I love Siratcha Mayo too.

    Parent

    I'm a Hellman's man (none / 0) (#52)
    by jondee on Thu Aug 08, 2024 at 10:58:05 AM EST
    myself. Which makes me a cultural conservative of sorts.

    Going up against the Miracle Whip party, because Hellman's isn't white enough.

    Parent

    Pretty sure the term "mayonnaise" (none / 0) (#54)
    by Peter G on Thu Aug 08, 2024 at 11:42:24 AM EST
    cannot be used under some FDA rule unless it contains specified percentages of oil and egg yolk. Unlike "Miracle Whip" and other "dressings." So, a store brand product labeled "mayonnaise" ought to be as good as Hellman's, as well as much less expensive. Hence, my choice is a low-fat store brand "mayonnaise." If you want spices or garlic flavoring, add them yourself. I'm partial to paprika.

    Parent
    I make (5.00 / 2) (#59)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Aug 08, 2024 at 02:19:54 PM EST
    my own mayo in the food processor or blender.

    Parent
    DIY Mayo (5.00 / 1) (#65)
    by Steve13209 on Fri Aug 09, 2024 at 11:05:29 AM EST
    My wife does this in a Ball jar with an immersion blender. It's like magic!

    Parent
    A great (5.00 / 1) (#66)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 09, 2024 at 01:07:54 PM EST
    idea that I never thought of. Some goes to waste with the food processor and blender, especially the blender where it is hard to get it out of the blade area.

    Parent
    In one of those consumer comparison things (none / 0) (#55)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Aug 08, 2024 at 12:13:35 PM EST
    Walmarts Best Choice brand was rated as good or better than Hellman's.

    And it's cheaper

    Parent

    It's an irrational (none / 0) (#56)
    by jondee on Thu Aug 08, 2024 at 12:23:04 PM EST
    sentimental favorite thing for me. A tribute to the dearly departed and so on.

    C'est la vie.

    Parent

    Likewise for me! It was my mother who (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by Peter G on Thu Aug 08, 2024 at 01:07:45 PM EST
    taught me (probably when I was a teenager) that certain terms, when used on food labels, had FDA-regulated definitions, and that this was often a good guide to deciding when the name brand product was likely to be a bad choice, economically speaking. How she came to know that, I have no idea. But it stuck in my mind.

    Parent
    He made a "couch joke" (5.00 / 3) (#22)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 06:03:37 PM EST
    in his speech.  I love him.

    Absolutely (5.00 / 3) (#23)
    by FlJoe on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 06:10:27 PM EST
    nailed it.

    Parent
    I just found out (none / 0) (#24)
    by jondee on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 06:26:45 PM EST
    the origin of the couch thing.

    Some people say once you go couch, you never go back.

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    Has furniture (none / 0) (#25)
    by jondee on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 06:49:24 PM EST
    ever been mentioned in any papal encyclicals?

    Did Aquinas ever talk about it?

    Parent

    It looked like Kamala was struggling (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by vml68 on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 10:58:34 PM EST
    to not laugh out loud when he made the couch joke.

    Parent
    I was sold on Walz after he said this at (5.00 / 2) (#29)
    by vml68 on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 11:14:25 PM EST
    the White Dudes for Kamala call.
    how often in 100 days do you get to change the trajectory of the world? How often in 100 days do you get to do something that's going to impact generations to come? And how often in the world do you make that b@stard wake up afterwards and know that a black woman kicked his ass and send him on the road? And you know that's something that guy's going to have to live with for the rest of his life


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    Vance (none / 0) (#26)
    by KeysDan on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 07:14:46 PM EST
    is banned from Rooms to Go.  

    Parent
    He tries to concentrate (5.00 / 2) (#27)
    by jondee on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 08:20:53 PM EST
    but an old Sears Sleep Number keeps popping into his head.

    Parent
    Yes (none / 0) (#30)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Aug 07, 2024 at 05:56:02 AM EST
    and then said I went there. I laughed and laughed. He really has a great sense of humor.

    Parent
    So What About Some Real Attacks? (none / 0) (#33)
    by RickyJim on Wed Aug 07, 2024 at 10:21:00 AM EST
    I think attacking Republican policies is far more effective than the already lame "weird" and "couch" memes.  Republican support for the Supreme Court amending the Constitution by 6-3 votes regularly and more than 40 standing ovations for Netanyahu are easy targets. The presidency is not the only thing at stake in this election.

    Parent
    Oh, be patient. (5.00 / 4) (#34)
    by KeysDan on Wed Aug 07, 2024 at 10:57:36 AM EST
    The strategy appears to be to re-enforce the oddity that is the Republican ticket and, then, their destructive  policies that will increase taxes (tariffs), help for billionaires (reduce taxes), continue to take away rights (national ban on bodily autonomy), destruction of heath care(repeal Obamacare, cut Medicare and social security), continue to destroy the Supreme Court(more extremist and lawless appointments), idismantle the "deep state" I.e., unitary executive with installation of autocracy and dissolution of democracy)---just for starters.

    Parent
    They should be running ads (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by Chuck0 on Wed Aug 07, 2024 at 04:25:00 PM EST
    everyday reminding people that the Orange moron congratulated PUTIN after Paul Whelan and Evan Gershkovich came home. A singularly traitorous act. No one, absolutely no one, who supports the GQP ticket is a patriot.


    Parent
    Sorry (none / 0) (#35)
    by FlJoe on Wed Aug 07, 2024 at 12:18:31 PM EST
    "when they go low, we talk policy" doesn't work either.

    Your average "swing" voter can't digest much more than can fit on a bumper sticker. Election outcomes depend more on tribal enthusiasm and other "vibes" way more than actual or proposed policy.

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    This election is not going to be decided (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Aug 07, 2024 at 12:35:48 PM EST
    on policy differences.   Not sure any presidential election ever was.

    It's about feeling.  Trump made people feel angry.  Biden made people feel safe.

    Harris and Walz are making people feel happy.  And normal.  It's been a long long time since happy or normal had anything to do with American politics.

    It's why they are going to win.

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    This might be related (none / 0) (#37)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Aug 07, 2024 at 12:42:58 PM EST
    This year's presidential race will be the first since 1976 without a Bush, Clinton or Biden on the ballot

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    I must confess. (5.00 / 3) (#40)
    by Chuck0 on Wed Aug 07, 2024 at 04:32:57 PM EST
    I am so proud of the Democratic Party in the way that they have coalesced around Harris and Walz. I am thrilled with the turnout and energy in Philadelphia yesterday.

    I was expecting a complete sh!tshow after Joe Biden dropped out. It's what Democrats normally do. The current trajectory and energy has squashed my original expectations. Good on us all!

    Howdy, I am now in your camp. The GQP will lose this election. Harris and Walz is a winning ticket and Kamala Harris will be the next President of the United States. And the fun uncle will be VP.


    About the party coalescing (5.00 / 5) (#44)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Aug 07, 2024 at 05:20:03 PM EST
    It's stunning.
    Thank GOD we dodged a primary.  I really think the position we find ourselves in is almost entirely because of the extraordinary withdrawal of the president.

    Which I believe will birth a million conspiracy theories when MAGA loses.
    But it
    Just happened.  

    Kamala might not have won a primary.

    Interesting times


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    I have wondered the same (none / 0) (#48)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Aug 08, 2024 at 04:08:37 AM EST
    About Kamala winning a primary.

    JD Vance following her around is just creepy. I wonder who thought that was a good idea.

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    It's amazing to watch (none / 0) (#41)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Aug 07, 2024 at 04:48:50 PM EST
    It's like 2008 but with the added pain and history of Trump and COVID making people so desperate to feel good about something,  anything.

    It's won't be smooth sailing but Trump will sail off down the river.  Eventually.

    And I think the national wave is going to be something good for progressives.

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    Foiled again! (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Aug 07, 2024 at 04:55:46 PM EST

     Trump Was `Very Happy' with Walz's Handling of Protests
    August 7, 2024 at 5:21 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 48 Comments

    In the hours after Kamala Harris announced Gov. Tim Walz as her running mate, allies of Donald Trump rushed to denigrate the Minnesota Democrat, seizing on criticism of his handling of the riots in the wake of George Floyd's murder in May 2020, ABC News reports.

    But at the time, Trump expressed support for Walz's handling of the protests, according to a recording of a phone call obtained by ABC News -- telling a group of governors that Walz "dominated," and praising his leadership as an example for other states to follow.

    Said Trump: "I know Gov. Walz is on the phone, and we spoke, and I fully agree with the way he handled it the last couple of days... I was very happy with the last couple of days, Tim. You called up big numbers and the big numbers knocked them out so fast it was like bowling pins."



    This is very true (5.00 / 4) (#43)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Aug 07, 2024 at 05:02:15 PM EST
    It's been downhill ever since the Supreme Court stole the 2000 election.  

    Democrats Are Having Fun Again
    August 7, 2024 at 3:20 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 105 Comments

    Los Angeles Times: "Democrats haven't had this much fun during a campaign season since presidential hopeful Bill Clinton busted out his saxophone on `The Arsenio Hall Show' and performed an ambitious version of `Heartbreak Hotel.'"

    "Social media is rife with happy memes of Harris dancing and chatting about coconut trees. Her recently announced VP pick, Minnesota Gov. Walz, is already inspiring reams of big dad energy jokes. And all Vance has to do is show up to rouse laughter."

    "It's a stunning change of pace for the Party of Perpetual Hand-Wringing, a cautious body which usually approaches elections with the seriousness of a bomb squad dismantling an explosive device. One wrong move and -- boom! -- we're Gilead, the police state in The Handmaid's Tale. Best to stay cautious and somber."

    "But Harris' sudden candidacy has interrupted a doom loop that's plagued the left since Al Gore lost to George W. Bush, making him the first candidate since 1888 to win the popular vote but lose in the electoral college. No Republican has won the popular vote since, including those who've made it into the White House. The uphill climb to victory has given Democrats little to smile about, until now."



    Harris (none / 0) (#49)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Aug 08, 2024 at 04:16:10 AM EST
    Will be my eternal political hero if she ends all the garbage of the last 25 years

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    I don't remember Kamala (5.00 / 4) (#53)
    by jondee on Thu Aug 08, 2024 at 11:05:04 AM EST
    ever advocating for class war and a society in which all property is publicly owned, but according to the Musk-Rat, she is a "literal communist."

    Someone needs to give the world's most famous idiot savant a dictionary of political terms.

    Seems they (none / 0) (#58)
    by KeysDan on Thu Aug 08, 2024 at 02:15:50 PM EST
    graduated  to "Communist" from "Socialist".   Marco Rubio put down his Polaris Hills water bottle long enough to allege Tim Walz has been groomed by the Chinese Communists--Tim and his wife organized student exchanges or education visits to China as a part of their teaching (social studies/geography).  A Rubio Manchurian Candidate.

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    I (none / 0) (#60)
    by FlJoe on Thu Aug 08, 2024 at 02:39:40 PM EST
    saw that coming, Republican's are easy to predict.
    Just take the weirdest spin they can come up with from any singular fact, turn it up to 11 an voila, a talking point is born.

    It's a bit harder when they start making up their own weird facts, but once they are locked onto one they never let go

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    Yeah, they're dusting-off (none / 0) (#61)
    by jondee on Thu Aug 08, 2024 at 03:58:20 PM EST
    the c-word in a way the haven't done in some years. And Swiftboating.

    It's looking the Musk-Rat bought X in order to dictate who the next President will be.

    Talk about going-low like rats backed into a corner.

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    Oh and Walz let Minneapolis (none / 0) (#62)
    by jondee on Thu Aug 08, 2024 at 04:01:22 PM EST
    "burn to the ground" after Trump praised him for how he handled the crisis.

    How did I miss all that?

    Parent

    I think (5.00 / 2) (#63)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Aug 08, 2024 at 04:09:12 PM EST
    one of the fires was started by the Trump supporting Boogaloo Bois so I hope that comes up in a debate if there ever is a debate.

    Parent
    This is pretty funny (5.00 / 1) (#76)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Aug 10, 2024 at 09:22:55 AM EST
    LOL! And as I listened closely ... (5.00 / 1) (#94)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Aug 11, 2024 at 09:53:22 PM EST
    ... while the talking heads were babbling at the rally's close, I swear that I also heard "Send in the Clowns" in the background:

    "Don't you love farce?
    My fault, I fear.
    I thought that you'd want what I want.
    Sorry, my dear.
    But where are the clowns?
    Quick, send in the clowns.
    Don't bother - they're here
    ."

    This has all the hallmarks of a campaign on the verge of free fall.

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    They should use Sky Pilot (none / 0) (#79)
    by jondee on Sat Aug 10, 2024 at 05:49:20 PM EST
    by the Animals for all the crash-and-burn sound effects.

    Or maybe Fat Man in the Bathtub by Little feat.

    Parent

    If they asked nicely, ... (5.00 / 2) (#131)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Aug 17, 2024 at 02:22:53 PM EST
    ... I'm sure Queen would allow the Trump campaign to use "I'm Going Slightly Mad" (from "Innuendo", 1991).

    Parent
    This could be important (5.00 / 1) (#111)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Aug 14, 2024 at 03:55:00 PM EST
    Evangelicals for Harris

    this is an X link

    EXCLUSIVE: Evangelicals For Harris drops their first media spot TODAY in an effort to win over some of those "on-the-fence" Conservative Evangelicals in swing states who are lukewarm when it comes to Donald Trump. You can watch it here first before it's officially released. Many more are coming soon. The videos will start on social media and eventually make their way to TV in certain swing states. Specifically and most interestingly, Evangelicals For Harris will be targeting conservative Christian media websites. This is NOT just a play for liberal Christians. The group already has over 200,000 Evangelical Christians who have signed a pledge to volunteer and vote for the Harris/Walz ticket. Big Zoom call tonight FYI. They ain't playin'.
    Look, here's a reality check. Donald Trump will get a HEFTY MAJORITY of the conservative evangelical vote. That's a no-brainer but if you think an effort like this is laughable and a waste of time, you're missing the larger political point. Elections are typically won at the margins, especially in the seven key swing states and so with that in mind, consider this.
    In 2008, Barack Obama received 26% of the White Born Again Evangelical Vote and WON.
    In 2016, Hillary Clinton received 16% of  the White Born Again Evangelical Vote and LOST.
    In 2020, Joe Biden received 24% of the White Born Again Evangelical Vote and WON.
    If Kamala Harris gets 20% or more of the White Born Again Evangelical Vote (not out of the question), Trump will probably lose.



    If you don't like X (none / 0) (#112)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Aug 14, 2024 at 04:19:59 PM EST
    here's a youtube

    As a non believer it's seems pretty powerful.

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    Evangelicals (none / 0) (#113)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Aug 14, 2024 at 08:33:21 PM EST
    Largely do not like this but they should considering how low an opinion most in the country have of evangelicals

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    I've been saying for a long time (5.00 / 2) (#114)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Aug 15, 2024 at 04:25:34 PM EST
    this was going to be a very good year for democrats.   I think it would have been even if Biden stayed in.  I still believe he could have won.
    But
    Things are spiraling in ways I never imagined.  Harris is not only going to win all the usual stuff in the sun belt and the rust belt, she is going to win in new places.  Like Ohio.  And Texas.  And Florida.  That's what the numbers are saying.

    We are going to sweep all three branches and win in places from coast to coast that no one expected.

    By the end of next week she will be a solid five points ahead.

    By the way
    I still think the benefit of Dobbs is being missed in polls.  For example, in AZ they just got the most signatures ever on a ballot thing.  Twice the number needed.


    I try not to ever agree with Frank Luntz but... (5.00 / 1) (#128)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Aug 16, 2024 at 08:25:15 PM EST
    My own states abortion ballot issue (none / 0) (#115)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Aug 15, 2024 at 04:30:22 PM EST
    is still in the courts.  The Nazi AG is doing everything he can to stop it and discredit the signatures but my gut says it will be on the ballot.

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    We got all the signatures and more (5.00 / 2) (#116)
    by MO Blue on Thu Aug 15, 2024 at 10:22:32 PM EST
    The right to an abortion is on the ballot in Missouri.

    Parent
    Maybe not exactly what they thought (5.00 / 5) (#117)
    by Peter G on Fri Aug 16, 2024 at 12:38:36 AM EST
    they were accomplishing when they said, "Return the question to the states. Leave it up to the voters in each state." Which is not to say that women's repro rights should be subject to a popular vote, any more than any other fundamental right.

    Parent
    More on signatures (5.00 / 1) (#119)
    by MO Blue on Fri Aug 16, 2024 at 09:46:54 AM EST
    A campaign to enshrine abortion rights in Missouri's constitution said Friday that it collected more than 380,000 signatures in just three months, more than twice the likely total needed to qualify for this year's statewide ballot.

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    Yes (5.00 / 1) (#126)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Aug 16, 2024 at 04:46:14 PM EST
    This thing with signature keeps happening.  I think it has to be an indicator of massive support. That does not seem to be reflected in polls.

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    Never been a (5.00 / 4) (#129)
    by MO Blue on Sat Aug 17, 2024 at 09:43:14 AM EST
    "You go low...We go high" fan. Personally, I wish they would label Hawley The Coward of The Senate along with showing  footage of him scurrying out of the building on J6. Include label in every conversation about him.

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    You can 'go low' (5.00 / 3) (#130)
    by jondee on Sat Aug 17, 2024 at 11:51:13 AM EST
    artfully and effectively, which is kind of like going low and high at the same time.

    In Hawley's case, the scurrying away thing
    is exactly what happened. It's not like the Republicans smearing people as 'communists.'  

    Parent

    Still not sure why the Dems (5.00 / 2) (#132)
    by MO Blue on Sat Aug 17, 2024 at 02:34:36 PM EST
    are not emphasizing his cowardice more.

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    Not a fan (5.00 / 1) (#134)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Aug 18, 2024 at 09:26:44 AM EST
    either. It worked for Obama I guess but for everybody else it is just taking repeated blows below the belt until they fall over. The Dukakis campaign seems too faint a memory for many.

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    Republicans are up to there old tricks (none / 0) (#120)
    by MO Blue on Fri Aug 16, 2024 at 09:56:23 AM EST
    Bills making it harder to amend state constitution proceed in Missouri House

    Both the House and Senate versions make the process harder, but in very different ways.

    "The House joint resolution would:

    Require signatures from 8% of registered voters in all eight congressional districts to qualify for the ballot.
    Establish a forum hosted by the Secretary of State for voters to review and comment on proposed amendments before they head to the ballot.
    Require a ballot measure receive a majority of votes in a majority of Missouri's congressional districts to pass.
    Require the General Assembly to have the approval of at least four-sevenths of the members in each chamber to make any modifications to citizen-led constitutional amendments within two years of when they go into effect.
    The Senate joint resolution would:

    Require that constitutional amendments pass by both a simple majority of votes statewide and a majority of votes in at least a majority of the votes in Missouri's congressional districts.
    Require the General Assembly to have the approval of at least four-sevenths of the members in each chamber to make any modifications to citizen-led constitutional amendments within two years of when it goes into effect."

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    This is (5.00 / 1) (#123)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 16, 2024 at 10:05:36 AM EST
    what they tried to do in Ohio. It didn't work.

    Simon Rosenberg called states "laboratories of autocracy" and boy is that right. Almost all the red states are autocracies heading towards theocracies.

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    Missouri has been an autocracy (none / 0) (#124)
    by MO Blue on Fri Aug 16, 2024 at 12:04:30 PM EST
    For a long time.

    We voted down conceal/carry in 1999. The Republican legislature overturned the will of the people and we are a conceal/carry state.

    Further Republican insanity.
    Missouri Republicans block proposed ban on kids carrying guns in public

    source


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    In other words, find a way to subject a (5.00 / 1) (#125)
    by Peter G on Fri Aug 16, 2024 at 01:10:51 PM EST
    statewide measure to the evil effects of gerrymandering, by requiring it to pass in each district, regardless of how unfairly defined. And if the measure somehow passes, allow a paltry 57% (4/7, the weakest imaginable definition of a "supermajority") of that gerrymandered legislature to overrule the will of the people.

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    So did we (5.00 / 1) (#118)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Aug 16, 2024 at 07:05:05 AM EST
    But they are saying the collectors of the signatures didn't smile while they were collecting them.

    Or something.

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    Do you think (5.00 / 1) (#122)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 16, 2024 at 10:03:35 AM EST
    this will help Kunce take out Hawley? I for one would love for that little weasel to no longer be a senator.

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    I mostly (none / 0) (#121)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 16, 2024 at 10:01:34 AM EST
    agree except for Texas. I think Trump will still carry Texas no matter how bad it gets. I will be excited to see her win GA by a couple of points though I will be voting in NC in November. I hope the GA GOP gets the message but they probably will not. In GA abortion rights cannot even come up for a vote unless the legislature says it can and it may take quite a while to flip the legislature to get a vote.

    I also think the polls will show most of what you are saying but not until mid to late October will the race break open. Just my unscientific opinion.

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    Thinking about an (5.00 / 2) (#127)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Aug 16, 2024 at 05:36:03 PM EST
    Unmarried Gay Rural Dog Owners for Harris

    Zoom call

    This is funny (5.00 / 1) (#135)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 19, 2024 at 04:43:58 PM EST

    In this clip of the hapless Ms Lindsey begging Trump to stop being Trump for a while

    It's like he realizes in mid sentence that if he pronounces "provocateur" correctly it will sound gay.   So he dumbs it down.

    Besides (none / 0) (#136)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 19, 2024 at 04:54:57 PM EST
    That they can beg Trump to change forever. These are the dumbest people ever.

    I got my first flyer today about Kamala. I guess internal polling for Trump in Georgia must not be great.I laughed at the flyer. To top it off it was paid for by the GA GOP so Trump is expecting them to foot the bill. Lol

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    The GA GOP (5.00 / 1) (#137)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 19, 2024 at 05:04:17 PM EST
    In in the national spotlight.

    Republican-controlled Georgia election board passes rule that may delay vote certification

    A lot of attention is being paid to this.  Rachel Maddow is all over it.

    I can't imagine all this negative publicity will be good for republicans in this election.

    It's the kind of thing that gets people out to vote.

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    The election (none / 0) (#139)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Aug 20, 2024 at 09:08:32 AM EST
    board is full of magats. They want the AG to investigate Fulton County 2020 voting even though it has been counted like 3 times back then. The AG says he cannot do this. So they are mad at him and he's a maga apologist himself failing to prosecute Trump for his crimes.

    The GA GOP has been getting a lot of negative attention for at least since 2018 yet here we are with total GOP control of the government. The press totally lets Brian Kemp off the hook for so much. He could do a lot to fix this mess yet he doesn't. Since he refused to overturn the election for Trump the press thinks he is a thing. That's the only thing he's done but IMO if he had overturned the election for Trump Biden sill would be president and he'd likely be under felony indictment. Even when Trump attacks his family he pretty much just rolls over and whines.

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    Glad it rained today. (5.00 / 3) (#138)
    by Chuck0 on Mon Aug 19, 2024 at 05:39:27 PM EST
    It kept the stench down whilst the Orange Moron was here in York, PA.

    After spending the weekend being inundated with political ads while watching YouTube (something I don't normally do), my takeaway is as follows.

    The GQP is running on telling Americans they that live in a communist sh!thole. But they can fix it if you subscribe to the premium package.

    The Democrats are sending out the message that the United Sates is already a great country and they want to make it greater.

    Such a dichotomy.

    The Democratic Convention (5.00 / 1) (#140)
    by KeysDan on Tue Aug 20, 2024 at 12:14:26 PM EST
    Was off to a rousing start on Day 1.  Clearly, the gloves are off!  The line-up of speakers told the story of danger to freedom and democracy looming from Trump and his fascist party.  Of particular note were AOC, Shawn Fein (who mimicked Hulk Hogan at the GOP convention, with the revealing of a T-shirt proclaiming Trump to be a "scab"), coach Steve Kerr, Jamie Radkin, and Hillary--who was on fire!

    The number of speakers and the prolonged celebratory acknowledgements of Joe Biden, placed the president's speech late into the night, but it was very good and worth the lost sleep.

    What was wrong with Walz, he didn't look good... (none / 0) (#141)
    by desertswine on Tue Aug 20, 2024 at 02:48:12 PM EST
    like he had a bad case of gas or something.

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    Didn't pick (none / 0) (#142)
    by KeysDan on Tue Aug 20, 2024 at 02:58:26 PM EST
    that up.   Maybe, just his "serious" look.  It was playful when his two kids put, unbeknownst to him, their fingers behind his head, as rabbit ears (or devil's horns). Looking forward to his speech on Wednesday.

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    Or, Chicago (none / 0) (#143)
    by KeysDan on Tue Aug 20, 2024 at 03:02:41 PM EST
    deep-dish pizza.

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    I just watched the Bourdain (5.00 / 1) (#144)
    by jondee on Tue Aug 20, 2024 at 03:13:07 PM EST
    episode where he found the best deep-dish pizza in Chicago. Instant munchies.

    I'm sure people disagree, but I wish they could have gotten Jesse Ventura as a speaker. He's behind Harris/Walz 100 % and his reaming of JD Vance and Bonespurs on CNN was something to see.

    The big, loud, ex-Seal thing appeals to the white working class, the Rogan-bro Trumpers. Oh well.

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    He's great as long (none / 0) (#147)
    by jondee on Tue Aug 20, 2024 at 04:22:44 PM EST
    as he stays on topic and doesn't start talking about the debris pattern on the lawn of the Pentagon on 9/11.

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    I haven't (none / 0) (#145)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Aug 20, 2024 at 03:50:03 PM EST
    watched it all yet but I heard Ashley Biden's speech was a tear jerker.

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    Yes, it was. (none / 0) (#148)
    by KeysDan on Tue Aug 20, 2024 at 04:33:44 PM EST
    For both Ashley and Joe.  Dr Jill also gave a very nice introduction.

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    Tonight Kamala is doing a rally (5.00 / 2) (#146)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 20, 2024 at 03:50:59 PM EST
    In the giant arena Trump was nominated in.  It hold 18,000 and is pretty clearly meant to get under his skin about crowd size.

    Harris, Needling Trump, Holds a Rally at His Convention Site
    In her latest move that seems meant to get under Donald Trump's skin, Kamala Harris will hold an event at the same Milwaukee arena where he accepted the Republican nomination.

    This is excellent.  I love it.


    Yes (5.00 / 1) (#149)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Aug 20, 2024 at 06:49:10 PM EST
    this is the only way to do it. Get under his skin so he literally has a mental breakdown. It seems he is getting close. George Conway and the Lincoln Project are in his head big time.

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    Speaking to a crowd of 35,000 (none / 0) (#150)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Aug 21, 2024 at 07:32:19 AM EST
    that's 20,000 in Chicago and 15,000 in Milwaukee should get a rise out the of him.

    Never seen anything like that.  It was a very aggressive move.

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    I just wish she would do (none / 0) (#151)
    by jondee on Wed Aug 21, 2024 at 04:14:09 PM EST
    the accordian-hands thing at the podium just once when she talks about her great turnouts.

    There's never been a candidate who begged for mockery more than Trump. Or one more likely to have a hissy-fit in response.

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    He's been (none / 0) (#152)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Aug 21, 2024 at 04:58:20 PM EST
    Oddly quiet.  

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    Looked the same to me (none / 0) (#153)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Aug 21, 2024 at 06:32:23 PM EST
    Anthony (5.00 / 1) (#154)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Aug 22, 2024 at 08:13:39 AM EST
    Scaramucci has been running around saying that Trump is going to drop out. I do not believe that. Dropping out means certain jail time and as long as there is a 1% chance of winning the election he will continue to run.

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    I (none / 0) (#155)
    by FlJoe on Thu Aug 22, 2024 at 09:04:22 AM EST
    don't think he will ever se jail time, I suspect at moat home confinement, dropping out of the race might help him in the NY sentencing. There is a possibility that if he were to drop out his other cases might be put on the back burner, where they all seem to be headed anyway.

    At this time it's still about the money, as long as there is a cash flow that he can skim off of somehow he can maintain his house of cards financial situation.

    For example, his Truth Social scam will become  worthless, look for him to cash in on that before he drops out.


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    I think (5.00 / 1) (#156)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Aug 22, 2024 at 09:18:38 AM EST
    he will get jail time albeit not in a jail probably more likely at a military base like the Watergate offenders did. George Conway has said that the judge will have to do some kind of sentence because of all the threats. You can't rely on his minions to keep him off social media in home confinement. He needs to be in a separate strictly controlled environment. As for the rest of the cases, they will be tried eventually but not any time soon because they will be appealed all the way to the supreme court.

    One thing that needs to happen is an impeachment of Clarence Thomas even if he doesn't get convicted. Just using the impeachment to show the supreme court that we are not tolerating their behavior may make them shape up a little. Though I think if it comes to that Thomas resigns before having all his dirty laundry aired to the public.

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    538 morning avgs (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 09:56:04 AM EST
    National: Harris +2
    Michigan: Harris +2.1
    Wisconsin: Harris +1.6
    Pennsylvania: Harris +1.1
    Nevada: Harris +0.3
    Georgia: Trump +0.7
    North Carolina: Trump +1.0
    Arizona: Trump +1.9

    Expect (none / 0) (#10)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 03:43:57 PM EST
    those GA numbers to improve after the crazed rally Trump held here in Atlanta in the same auditorium Harris campaigned in and where my youngest son graduated school last May. So he attacks Kemp. Nobody cares about Kemp because he more or less asked for it when he begged Trump for an endorsement in 2018. But Trump just can't help it when a woman stands up to him. Marti Kemp said she was not voting for Trump and therefore he had to go after her. Really ticked off a lot of people here especially women. Not that Trump already didn't have a woman problem but he just can't help making it worse.

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    The best thing about the Kamala campaign (none / 0) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 10:12:02 AM EST
    so far is the joy.  She looks like she is having a good time.  It's been a long long time since democrats have had fun.  Biden saved us from Trump and COVID and bless him for that.   But he was never much fun.

    Walz will compliment this part of her appeal.   He also looks like he is enjoying himself.

    I really don't think many Democrats were expecting to have fun this fall a month ago.  Which makes it even better.

    Happy (5.00 / 4) (#3)
    by KeysDan on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 10:16:38 AM EST
    Warrior.  A Minnesota tradition.

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    3rd (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 03:39:19 PM EST
    Happiest state in the nation.

    I have family there and when I go visit we laugh and laugh.

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    One hopes (none / 0) (#5)
    by jondee on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 01:44:39 PM EST
    he goes into full warrior-mode. He's perfectly capable.

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    He was my favorite (none / 0) (#6)
    by jes on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 01:52:38 PM EST
    based on the auditions. But I never really thought there was a chace especially after Bernie endorsed him! Even Armando thought that was the kiss of death.

    Something you might like:  He did name 2 public defenders to the Minisota state Supreme Court.

    oof... (none / 0) (#7)
    by jes on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 02:14:08 PM EST
    chance and Minnesota.sigh.

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    Most interesting (none / 0) (#9)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 03:40:13 PM EST
    thing to me is both Manchin and Marianne Woo Woo Williamson like Walz.

    And AOC (none / 0) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 03:44:13 PM EST
    and Dean Phillips

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    I think this might be the real reason (none / 0) (#12)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 03:51:54 PM EST
    Waltz was picked.

    Tim Walz brings his abortion-rights bona fides to the Democratic ticket

    This was always going to be won or lost on the issue of reproductive rights.  I wish democracy was enough but sadly it is not.

    I really really hope you're (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by jondee on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 03:57:23 PM EST
    right, because if you are, we win.

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    Dems (none / 0) (#15)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 04:03:11 PM EST
    Have not lost an important election since Dobbs.  
    Kansas Kentucky etc.
    And I believe the advantage for Dems because of Dobbs in being undercounted in polls.  Just as it was in the those races in red states where it won with huge totally unexpected margins

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    It is spell correct (none / 0) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 03:53:32 PM EST
    That keeps spelling his name wrong.  I'm trying to catch it.

    FWIW

    it's WALZ

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    Trump seems incredibly (none / 0) (#16)
    by jondee on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 04:04:25 PM EST
    skittish to debate all of a sudden.

    Not a good look for a supposed bring-it-on tough guy.

    Suddenly his little toadstool has shriveled up at the thought of not having a deteriorating old man to pick on.

    Trump the he-man woman hater (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 06, 2024 at 04:14:14 PM EST
    J.D. Vance - Hillbilly Elegy (none / 0) (#64)
    by RickyJim on Thu Aug 08, 2024 at 10:50:02 PM EST
    On the cover of the audio book version (read by the author) there appears the blurb "'Profound_a great insight into Trump and Brexit' Independent" This turned out to be quite an exaggeration.  This book, published in 2016, is largely an account of his first 18 years in Middletown, Ohio - his hillbilly mamaw and papaw (maternal grandparents), violent family, multiply married drug addict mother, his poor record as a student which changed to good student his senior year in high school.  He credits his turn around to the love and emphasis on education he got from some relatives, especially mamaw and papaw.  

    He claims that the hillbilly culture is anti-intellectual and dooms the group to a low income future.  So what does this have to do with Trump (who isn't mentioned in the book)?  He admires the family and educational values of the Mormons of Utah who are just as much in the Trump camp as the people from small town Appalachia.  

    There is a little about his 4 year non combat career in the Marines where he for a while wrote propaganda while in Iraq.  The most extensive section about Vance's adult life is the description of Yale law school where he learned the importance of networking and met his future wife Ursa.  Nothing much is said about what he learned about law.  Here is an excerpt which covers what he did at Ohio State after getting out of the Marines.

    I felt an immediate drive to finish college as quickly as possible. I met with a guidance counselor and plotted my exit--I'd
    need to take classes during the summer and more than double the full-time course load during some terms. It was, even by my
    heightened standards, an intense year. During a particularly terrible February, I sat down with my calendar and counted the
    number of days since I'd slept more than four hours in a day. The tally was thirty-nine. But I continued, and in August 2009, after
    one year and eleven months at Ohio State, I graduated with a double major, summa cum laude
    He doesn't tell us what the double major was or anything about what he learned at Ohio State.  The book ends before he reaped the benefits of knowing Peter Thiel. My takeaway is that he could have told us some interesting things about his life but didn't deliver.

    So it turns out (none / 0) (#67)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Aug 09, 2024 at 03:25:53 PM EST
    could (5.00 / 2) (#68)
    by FlJoe on Fri Aug 09, 2024 at 03:46:18 PM EST
    be worse...Trump with a sharpie.

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    Hold (5.00 / 2) (#69)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Aug 09, 2024 at 04:40:10 PM EST
    RFK's couch (none / 0) (#70)
    by jondee on Fri Aug 09, 2024 at 06:59:33 PM EST


    Why effing bring it up (none / 0) (#71)
    by jondee on Fri Aug 09, 2024 at 07:41:12 PM EST
    at all is my question. TMI. It happened what, ten years ago?

    He was talking to Roseanne, so maybe crazy draws the crazy out of you.

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    Are you talking about the bear? (none / 0) (#72)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Aug 09, 2024 at 08:18:59 PM EST
    I think it's a horrifying story.  The more you hear, more roadkill in the fridge,  the more horrifying it is.

    It's something voters deserve to know about a candidate for any public office.

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    I'm talking about Him (none / 0) (#73)
    by jondee on Fri Aug 09, 2024 at 09:45:06 PM EST
    bringing it up. In a conversation with Roseanne Barr. Isn't that what happened?

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    He did that to get ahead of the story (none / 0) (#74)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Aug 10, 2024 at 07:05:02 AM EST
    Because he learned it was going to be published.

    In the New Yorker or NYMag or one of those.

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    JFK Jr (none / 0) (#75)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Aug 10, 2024 at 07:57:58 AM EST
    doesn't need Roseanne to bring out the crazy. He has done it before all by himself.

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    John F. Kennedy, Jr., that is, "JFK Jr" (5.00 / 1) (#77)
    by Peter G on Sat Aug 10, 2024 at 12:31:07 PM EST
    died 25 years ago, at age 39, in a plane crash. He was not crazy, as far as I know.

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    Oof (5.00 / 1) (#80)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Aug 10, 2024 at 06:54:13 PM EST
    You are correct. Sorry about that.

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    I watched the video. (none / 0) (#93)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Aug 11, 2024 at 09:41:19 PM EST
    Even Roseanne had an initially startled "WTF?" look in her eyes when RFK Jr. started riffing about the dead bear cub. I mean, Jeez, if your cray-cray freaks Roseanne Barr out ...

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    How Generic Can Kamala Harris Be? (none / 0) (#78)
    by RickyJim on Sat Aug 10, 2024 at 12:52:26 PM EST
    Is the title of Jay Caspian Kang's Aug.8 New Yorker piece where he expresses frustration because of Kamala & Co.'s failure, so far, to talk policy.
    She has not explained what, exactly, happened in Washington after President Joe Biden's disastrous debate; or why she has changed her mind on fracking, which she once said should be banned, and has wobbled on Medicare for All, which she once supported; or what she plans to do with Lina Khan, the head of the Federal Trade Commission, who is said to be unpopular among some of Harris's wealthy donors; or much about how a Harris Administration would handle the wars in Ukraine and the Middle East.
    As wildly different as Harris and Trump are, their campaigns seem to share a degree of indifference to the specifics of what their candidates are saying, because both campaigns realize that many of their voters are unconcerned about such details--or, at the very least, are unlikely to be moved by them. What matters to many voters right now is their hatred and fear, however justified, of the opposing candidate, and the fun they have calling the other side weird, dangerous, and deranged. Harris and Trump, under differing circumstances, and in different ways, have floated above what was once the perfunctory and deeply unsexy muck of campaigning on a platform, or for some particular issue, and seem to exist more as brands. Other Presidential candidates have risen above that muck, too--often the highly charismatic ones, like John F. Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, and Obama--but I can't think of a race that was quite as unmoored as this one from the actual details of governance. Trump has been insisting that he doesn't actually know anything about Project 2025. Harris's campaign Web site, meanwhile, does not even have a policy section, or an articulation of beliefs. There's just a button to donate, some merch and yard signs, and a biography that describes her as "the daughter of parents who brought her to civil rights marches in a stroller."


    You know what? (5.00 / 3) (#81)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Aug 10, 2024 at 06:58:23 PM EST
    This is their own fault that we are where we are. The press has largely not pushed Trump on policy or follow up with questions when he refuses to answer the question they just asked him.

    Also if elections in this country are actually won on policy it's been missed by me. The press rarely digs into policy details and analysis but I wish they did.

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    Willie Brown said it best about Trump. (5.00 / 1) (#95)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Aug 11, 2024 at 10:00:33 PM EST
    "He's an entertainer, that's all it is. If the public is fascinated with your antics, you survive. It's unfortunate, but you can't really tell the voters they're idiots."

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    The reality speaks for itself (5.00 / 1) (#98)
    by jondee on Sun Aug 11, 2024 at 10:16:18 PM EST
    War Breaking Out in the Middle East (none / 0) (#82)
    by RickyJim on Sat Aug 10, 2024 at 07:43:48 PM EST
    would certainly focus the campaign on one policy issue.  And I think it could happen.

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    Lot's (5.00 / 1) (#83)
    by FlJoe on Sat Aug 10, 2024 at 09:06:46 PM EST
    of possible black swan events possible.

    Although I agree that the weirdos ongoing war on women  has been the gift that keeps on giving.

    But even that is more philosophy than policy.

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    Hmmm (none / 0) (#87)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Aug 11, 2024 at 06:33:35 PM EST
    That AXIOS (none / 0) (#88)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Aug 11, 2024 at 06:37:21 PM EST
    not the best of sources.  IMO

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    Let me guess (none / 0) (#97)
    by jondee on Sun Aug 11, 2024 at 10:14:50 PM EST
    they need the U.S to bomb Iran before it's too late.

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    Newflash. (none / 0) (#84)
    by Chuck0 on Sun Aug 11, 2024 at 04:02:50 PM EST
    There has been a war in the Middle East since 1948.

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    If There is an Escalation of Current Hostilities (none / 0) (#85)
    by RickyJim on Sun Aug 11, 2024 at 04:33:29 PM EST
    involving Israel, Hezbollah and Iran, how far does US support for Israel go? Ground troops? How far will Russia go to protect Iran?  I am happy Biden now can spend all his time trying to defuse the situation instead of campaigning. As far as getting a cease fire in Gaza, has Harris been asked if continued weapons support for Israel's activity there is on the table?  Apparently withdrawing it is not an option for Biden/Blinken.

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    Russia has its hands full with Ukraine. (5.00 / 1) (#96)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Aug 11, 2024 at 10:11:07 PM EST
    I wouldn't count on the Kremlin for support, if I was the Ayatollah.

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    Hey (none / 0) (#104)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 12, 2024 at 03:04:51 PM EST
    I left a question for you in the open

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    Russia Could Supply Weapons (none / 0) (#110)
    by RickyJim on Tue Aug 13, 2024 at 01:07:12 PM EST
    to Iran to, say, take out a US carrier that might be sent to the Gulf of Oman as a "prevention".  I just hope that the administration resists the pressure from Netanyahu and his Republican proxies in Congress to get the US into a war with Iran.  The big question is whether the US really believes it could destroy Iran's nuclear capabilities.

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    Sure, Russia could do that. (5.00 / 3) (#133)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Aug 17, 2024 at 02:59:59 PM EST
    It would also be catastrophic for them. Now, I know this got very little coverage in our navel-gazing U.S. media and their horse-race coverage of the Trump campaign, but the Kremlin just walked itself back a few months ago from what would've been a disastrous military confrontation with France over the war in Ukraine.

    It started when Russian submarines began actively tailing French cargo vessels in the Mediterranean Sea and the Kremlin threatened to attack ships delivering supplies to Ukraine. Matters very quickly escalated and had actually reached a point where President Macron went on prime-time live TV to address the French people, vowing to not let Ukraine fall, and the National Assembly passed a resolution authorizing Macron to deal with the situation as he saw fit, up to and including the active deployment of French military forces in the war zone.

    Why would Moscow back down from war with France, which is the 4th largest military power in the world, only to then threaten a similar action against a far more powerful U.S. over Iran and Israel? Hell, as of this writing, the Russia military is presently facing a terribly awkward situation in Kursk Oblast, after Ukrainian forces crossed over the border in force to invade Mother Russia herself.

    Vladimir Putin is ruthless and even reckless, but he's not suicidal.

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    Its only August (none / 0) (#86)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Aug 11, 2024 at 04:57:26 PM EST
    I would not normally quote Trump from his Great Value Twitter feed but this is worth noting.
    This is what panic and desperation look like.  
    And as I noted, it's August.  

    Has anyone noticed that Kamala CHEATED at the airport? There was nobody at the plane, and she "A.I.'d" it, and showed a massive "crowd" of so-called followers, BUT THEY DIDN'T EXIST! She was turned in by a maintenance worker at the airport when he noticed the fake crowd picture, but there was nobody there, later confirmed by the reflection of the mirror like finish on the Vice Presidential Plane. She's a CHEATER. She had NOBODY waiting, and the "crowd" looked like 10,000 people! Same thing is happening with her fake "crowds" at her speeches. This is the way the Democrats win Elections, by CHEATING - And they're even worse at the Ballot Box. She should be disqualified because the creation of a fake image is ELECTION INTERFERENCE. Anyone who does that will cheat at ANYTHING!

    By October he will be working on his insanity defense.  

    He saying all this stupid cr@p (5.00 / 2) (#89)
    by Chuck0 on Sun Aug 11, 2024 at 06:42:28 PM EST
    gearing up for claiming he was "cheated" out of the election. It will be very messy when he loses. I think 2020 will pale in comparison to the aftermath of this election. I think there will be real violence in the certifications at the state level. They may not storm the Capitol again, but I believe there will be actions where the votes are being counted.

    He's already floating that what the Democrats have done is "unconstitutional." He is so incredibly stupid that he thinks there is something in the US Constitution about political parties, primaries and party conventions. And his cult minions won't tell him any different.

    It's a real shame that 30% of this country have become a cult. Everything, and I mean everything, about the MAGA movement screams cults. Orange moron is their Jim Jones.


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    This new stuff about (5.00 / 1) (#91)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Aug 11, 2024 at 07:04:52 PM EST
    Being hacked is a problem,  it will just give him a talking point

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    I found (none / 0) (#100)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 12, 2024 at 01:24:53 PM EST
    the "hacked by foreign sources" incredibly rich considering he was advocating for Russian hacking in 2016. If he was truly hacked I would think there would be FBI or other law enforcement involvement. Have not read that that has happened.

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    The FBI (none / 0) (#103)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 12, 2024 at 03:04:07 PM EST
    is said to be investigating

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    PWire (none / 0) (#105)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 12, 2024 at 06:09:06 PM EST
    FBI Probing Hack of Trump Campaign
    August 12, 2024 at 6:04 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 121 Comments

    The FBI has opened an investigation into the alleged hacking of Donald Trump's presidential campaign, Politico reports

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    Right (none / 0) (#106)
    by jondee on Mon Aug 12, 2024 at 10:29:00 PM EST
    ammunition for yet another conspiracy theory.

    I thought all the "3 letter agencies" were against Trump. Why are they even investigating?

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    Because it's foreign (none / 0) (#108)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 13, 2024 at 09:28:33 AM EST
    interference in a US election.

    The Harris campaign was also hacked.

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    I think it was (none / 0) (#109)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 13, 2024 at 10:25:23 AM EST
    the Biden campaign at that point but whatever.  

    They were both hacked.

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    Okay. (none / 0) (#107)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Aug 13, 2024 at 07:54:55 AM EST
    Thanks. It seems some think it was an inside job due to the rumor that someone in the Trump campaign hates him like playing the theme song from the Titanic.

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    30% is about right I think (none / 0) (#90)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Aug 11, 2024 at 07:03:39 PM EST
    On the hopeful side I don't think this election will be close.  

    I think there will be enough padding.  Many paths to victory.

    I really do.  Besides

    That was insane,  no one but the 30% is going to believe a word of that.  

    NPR says he lied 2.5 time per minute in the presser thats impressive but it's not working


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    Doesn't matter if the election is close (5.00 / 1) (#92)
    by Chuck0 on Sun Aug 11, 2024 at 08:21:45 PM EST
    or not. He can lose by a landslide, he will still be screaming "fraudulent election." And filing lawsuits, dozens of lawsuits.

    We already know that he won't win the popular vote. My prediction is Harris will win two more states than Biden did. Maybe North Carolina, possibly Alaska and/or Iowa, Ohio or Kansas.


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    He's 78 (none / 0) (#99)
    by jondee on Sun Aug 11, 2024 at 10:32:12 PM EST
    and supposedly addicted to junk food.

    Attracts crazies who like him and crazies who don't like him.

    Hopefully nature will takes it's course.

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    We have been (none / 0) (#101)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 12, 2024 at 01:26:17 PM EST
    waiting for his poor diet and poor health to take him out for about 10 years now. Since it has not happened yet I have given up on that and have decided eating all those preservatives has preserved him.

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    Yeah, all his needs (none / 0) (#102)
    by jondee on Mon Aug 12, 2024 at 01:57:56 PM EST
    is to be swathed in unguents and bandages
    in the Valley of Kings.

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