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Robert Kennedy Confirmation Hearing

Republicans are throwing easy questions at Robert Kennedy. I am watching the hearing. I guess I've never heard him speak before. He has a condition called spasmodic dysphona.

Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are putting him on the spot as to whether he'll forego taking a cut of lawsuits suing over vaccines, whether he believes medical care is a human right, whether he supports a right to choose.

Caroline Kennedy and another relative of Kennedy's wrote scathing letters to Congress urging he not be confirmed.

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    Robert Kennedy, Jr., (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jan 29, 2025 at 03:22:55 PM EST
    may be the most dangerous of the Cabinet nominees or those confirmed, so far.  A low bar, of course, but Kennedy's malevolence may irreversibly affect each and every American.  The confirmation hearings today demonstrated an alarming range of ignorance and mendaciousness.  The only Republican senator who seemed, at least, uneasy, with Kennedy was Bill Cassidy of Louisiana--who is a gastroenterologist.  What has the American electorate done to this country?

    They don't understand (none / 0) (#10)
    by jondee on Sat Feb 01, 2025 at 01:29:27 AM EST
    that improving things involves a long series of chess moves, not burning it all down by electing psychopathic arsonists.

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    Haven't seen any of it (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jan 29, 2025 at 06:27:36 PM EST
    Couldn't watch that.

    I read someplace Jr wants to ban the advertising of prescription drugs.  

    Signed,
    Glass half full guy

    Well, there's something I think I agree with (5.00 / 2) (#5)
    by Peter G on Wed Jan 29, 2025 at 06:54:09 PM EST
    I would also ban direct-to-consumer advertising of prescription drugs. By no means a sufficient reason to support this nutjob for HHS secretary, of course.

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    No (5.00 / 2) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jan 29, 2025 at 07:22:49 PM EST
    Direct to Consumer (none / 0) (#8)
    by KeysDan on Thu Jan 30, 2025 at 02:25:05 PM EST
    Advertising has merit that needs to be weighed against bans.  It educates people about conditions and treatments for which they may not be aware. And, may encourage patients to contact a medical provider, thereby, addressing under diagnosis.  

    In a general sense, the more education , the better patients will be.--information about drug treatments can improve health by involving patients more in their heath, such as taking medications that they should be taking, raising  awareness of not only the effects of drugs, but also, their side effects---a double-edged sword.  

    Drug advertisement has served to lessen the stigma often attached to certain conditions, including male health , depression, and anxiety.  Patients may be more willing and comfortable in bringing such matters to the attention of a medical provider.

    Of course, there are drawbacks such as misinformation, costs, and prescribing pressures on providers.  However, advertising is direct drug information to consumers, not direct provision of drugs to them. It is the responsibility of the provider to explain, as provider/patient partners, the drug treatment--is this drug right for you?

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    Big celebration (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by KeysDan on Thu Feb 13, 2025 at 05:57:04 PM EST
    of RFK, Jr.'s confirmation by Republicans as Secretary of Health woo, by the National Association of Funeral Directors.

    So, the first kid in the Texas measles outbreak (5.00 / 4) (#37)
    by Peter G on Wed Feb 26, 2025 at 03:14:05 PM EST
    has died. All those hospitalized were unvaccinated. RFKjr says his department is "following" the situation. An apt turn of phrase, since he is clearly not about to lead anything.

    Measles has been viewed (5.00 / 4) (#38)
    by KeysDan on Wed Feb 26, 2025 at 05:32:04 PM EST
    as a relatively simple childhood disease, essentially eradicated in the US since 2000.  The public health concerns of another era have been controlled by vaccination of MMM (measles, mumps and rubella). One dose is about 94 percent effective, and about 97 percent effective with the recommended two-dose regimen.

    Measles is a highly contagious, airborne illness, commonly associated with a red rash, fever, eye infection, and cough.  However, it can cause life-threatening illnesses.  The measles virus can attack adults as well as children. . During an outbreak, about 1 in 5 who get sick will need hospital care, and 1 in 20 will develop pneumonia.  Measles may lead to cardiac problems or swelling of the brain and death.

    The response, to date, is to "follow" the situation (to the graveyard) , while permitting conspiracy theories to run amok. One of Kennedy's first steps in office was to put the HHS Vaccine Advisory Committee on indefinite hold.  It is a tough job to estimate which Cabinet officer is the most dangerous, but Kennedy is a top contender.

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    Does anybody understand (none / 0) (#1)
    by Peter G on Wed Jan 29, 2025 at 01:43:10 PM EST
    why RFKjr claims it is illogical to blame him for the measles deaths in Samoa?

    Yeah - because RFK Jr.'s full of sh!+. (5.00 / 3) (#11)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Feb 04, 2025 at 03:17:15 AM EST
    Samoa had suspended the MMRV vaccine program the year prior to RFK Jr.'s June 2019 visit to the country, following the accidental deaths of two toddlers from an improperly administered vaccine. He specifically traveled there to urge the government to keep that suspension in place, and public health experts complained his visit helped amplify anti-vax voices.

    By the fall of 2019, the MMRV vaccination rate had plummeted to 31% and over 5,000 Samoans were stricken by the resultant measles outbreak, which had been predicted by many public health officials. Of the 83 deaths in the country, 79 of them were children under age 15. In the midst of that epidemic, RFK Jr. wrote the prime minister and suggested that the vaccine itself may have been the cause.

    That MAGA-addled a$$hat is neither qualified nor fit to organize a one-float Rose Parade, never mind overseeing and running the U.S. Dept. of Health and Human Services.

    Aloha.

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    I only heard a little of that part of his hearing, (none / 0) (#2)
    by Jack E Lope on Wed Jan 29, 2025 at 02:17:13 PM EST
    ...but, no, I don't think anybody understands unless they are predisposed to do so.

    I was not paying much attention, but I kept hearing him being questioned about past statements - some spoken, some written - and denying that he said those things.

    I get the idea that he is quite misunderstood, since so many people who have heard or read his words think he said something that he now denies having said.

    I'm not so sure we want someone in a cabinet position who is so lacking the ability to communicate what he really means to the public.

    This is (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Jan 30, 2025 at 12:57:09 PM EST
    what he has been doing for a while now. Someone plays of a clip of him saying no vaccines are safe and then he sits there and flatly denies it. It's insane and the first outbreak he will be blamed for rightly.

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    I'm told he contributed (none / 0) (#9)
    by jondee on Sat Feb 01, 2025 at 01:23:50 AM EST
    the roadkill section to Jordan Peterson's Carnivore Diet book. Can anyone confirm?

    As I watch this slow motion (none / 0) (#12)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 05, 2025 at 11:00:02 AM EST
    train wreck happen I am becoming a bit more optimistic about the future of the country.

    Now that Trump has nominated the most absurdly unqualified people to ever hold the most important positions in government.

    These people are going to show how qualified they are.  They will be a constant running joke of the next few years.  Which Cab Sec is in the news today for being an idiot?

    I've been thinking for a long time that our system of government is so entrenched it might not matter much who is in charge.

    If we are lucky it will be just as impossible to do bad things as it was for Democrats to do good things.  With the caveat doing bad stuff is always easier.

    Yes, I know, Trump is rooting out all the opposition.  He sent in the Musk dog.  He's going to beat the deep state.

    It will be something to see if he can.  You know, take over Gaza.  For example.

    If (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by FlJoe on Wed Feb 05, 2025 at 11:41:12 AM EST
    it's easier to do bad stuff, it's child play to destroy stuff.

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    Yes (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 05, 2025 at 12:29:58 PM EST
    Assuming the country survives it will not recover in our lifetime

    We are now the third world.

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    I'm watching more news now (none / 0) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 05, 2025 at 11:01:10 AM EST
    seems I can do it without nausea

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    Another thing (none / 0) (#14)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 05, 2025 at 11:15:52 AM EST
    I've wondered if, now that Trump has served his purpose of getting them all elected and getting the crazy cabinet and as he continues to spiral out of control, I have wondered if they might decide Trump is having health problems and needs some rest.  

    the crazy is just getting started. But this Gaza krap should terrify any sane republican.  Some have even said so.

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    I would love to hear (none / 0) (#15)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 05, 2025 at 11:22:06 AM EST
    from Peter and/or Dan about this.  

    Just how insane IS the idea of turning Gaza into a seaside resort?

    FYI
    I just heard Andrea Mitchell say that idea came from Jared Kushner.

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    An impulsive (5.00 / 3) (#29)
    by KeysDan on Wed Feb 05, 2025 at 08:27:50 PM EST
    Concept of a Plan that put most thinking Americans jaws on the ground and targets on the backs of American military stationed in the Middle East.  Just the "concept" as pronounced (US take over ownership as a Territory, permanent relocation of almost 2 million Palestinians, aka ethic cleansing, and the leveling and re-building as a Riviera resort) may have re-ignited terrorism at home and abroad.

    This, of course, is a crazy idea by a crazy man.  But this crazy man is the President of the United States and just his expression of  this absurd idea of  American territorial intrusion in such a volatile area of the world is likely to have irreversible international damage.

      Before this reckless  outburst, Trump has spoken of "cleaning out" Gaza so this is probably neither a distraction nor is it likely to be the last we hear of it.  Trump is transactional and he sees dollar signs as goes off into his slumber.  All despite the horrified reactions of the Palestinians and the Arab world. An eye roll could even  be detected by Bibi.

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    I have no expertise on that subject (none / 0) (#19)
    by Peter G on Wed Feb 05, 2025 at 12:59:09 PM EST
    but here is an interesting piece in the Atlantic about it (gift link).

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    Bad link (none / 0) (#20)
    by Peter G on Wed Feb 05, 2025 at 01:01:29 PM EST
    This would create a 9/11 (none / 0) (#21)
    by Chuck0 on Wed Feb 05, 2025 at 02:02:27 PM EST
    in this country ever week. And deservedly so.

    On the question of where to put the Palestinians, I suggest Florida.

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    Ha (none / 0) (#22)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 05, 2025 at 03:18:51 PM EST
    Top Trump administration officials on Wednesday walked back elements of President Trump's proposal to `take over' Gaza and drive out the Palestinian population

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    I am (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 05, 2025 at 04:19:20 PM EST
    becoming more and more certain we will have a terrorist attack at some point in the future. It is the perfect time for a massive one with all the incompetence at the top. Surely the terrorists are watching and planning and the Gaza thing now is gonna give them motivation.

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    also (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 05, 2025 at 05:14:02 PM EST
    Bishara Bahbah, chairman of the group formerly known as Arab Americans for Trump, said during a phone interview that the group would now be called Arab Americans for Peace

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    Well (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 05, 2025 at 07:20:55 PM EST
    I have to give them credit as they realize they were grifted. So many others have no clue what is coming at them.

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    Apparently (none / 0) (#23)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 05, 2025 at 04:17:11 PM EST
    a retired general said Trump's plan for Gaza will make Iraq 2007 look like a picnic. So thousands of Americans are going to die for Trump to build a hotel?

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    I'm not a Fan of JD Vance but (none / 0) (#18)
    by RickyJim on Wed Feb 05, 2025 at 12:49:56 PM EST
    I think he would be an improvement. An up to date version of what happened to Julius Caesar, when he was perceived to about to declare himself King of Rome, might be this part of the 25th amendment to the US Constitution.  Yes, even the Republicans have a breaking point.
    Section 4

    Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

    Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.



    J D Vance (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 05, 2025 at 04:45:41 PM EST
    is smart enough to be dangerous.  Of the 2 I prefer having Trump running the show.  

    But I agree.  There is going to talk of a hook to get him off the stage.  Or a brick maybe.

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    I honestly (5.00 / 2) (#28)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 05, 2025 at 07:21:52 PM EST
    am not sure it matters. It's not like Trump is really directing anything anyway with Elon running things.

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    If Democrats are terrified enough (none / 0) (#30)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Feb 13, 2025 at 05:34:19 PM EST
    we could take both houses of Congress next year.  They need to be scared.

    AFAIAC, from now till then the more batshite the better.  

    Democrats get two Senate opportunities to freshen up the party

    Sabato's Crystal Ball: "While Republicans, who will be defending 22 of the 35 Senate seats up in 2026, may have the political environment working against them next year, they are still favored to retain the chamber."


    One word: Tariffs. (5.00 / 4) (#33)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Feb 14, 2025 at 11:22:55 AM EST
    It's time for everyone to be reintroduced to Rep. Willis Hawley (R-OR, Chair of the House Ways and Means Committee) and Sen. Reed Smoot (R-UT, Chair of the Senate Finance Committee), co-authors of the now-infamous Tariff Act of 1930 (aka the Smoot-Hawley Act), which proved to be the most protectionist, isolationist and ultimately counterproductive and calamitous economic action ever undertaken by the U.S. government, most certainly since the equally ill-advised Embargo Act of 1807.

    Auto tycoon Henry Ford - hardly a "woke" liberal - had earlier visited Washington D.C. to personally lobby President Herbert Hoover to veto the bill, bluntly telling him that the Smoot-Hawley tariffs were "an economic stupidity." Hoover, having earlier pledged in his 1928 campaign to expand our country's international cooperation with other nations around the world, initially agreed with him and called the measure "vicious, extortionate, and obnoxious."

    However, the president soon found it difficult to ignore the political pressures coming from his own Republican Party. With GOP members in both chambers of Congress in unanimous support of the Smoot-Hawley bill and two-thirds of his own cabinet threatening to resign if he vetoed the bill, Hoover signed the Smoot-Hawley bill into law on June 17, 1930, raising US tariffs on over 20,000 imported goods.

    Sen. Smoot and Rep. Hawley had assured Hoover that the tariffs would protect and encourage then-declining U.S. agricultural production, ignoring the fact that upwards of 25% of U.S. farmland had heretofore been devoted to the production of feed for the horses and mules which were no longer being needed to plow the fields and draw the wagons that had been hauling goods to market.

    It's as though Republicans were oblivious to the revolution that had occurred in transportation over the previous 30-40 years, i.e.., the introduction of automobiles, trucks, and tractors that had rendered horse- and mule-drawn vehicles and equipment obsolete, freeing up that aforementioned farmland to be converted to the production of other cash crops. But that conversion was then only just beginning. Meanwhile, the enormous growth in manufacturing in the wake of the First World War had created huge U.S. trade surpluses with other countries, which dwarfed our deficit in agricultural exports.

    The Smoot-Hawley Act quickly sparked a ruinous global trade war that resulted in an almost immediate decline of worldwide trade by some 60-66%, as other countries quickly retaliated against the U.S. tariffs by erecting their own barriers to imported goods from not just the United States but also other countries as well.

    As a direct result, the international credit market quickly dried up, banks in the U.S. and Europe teetered on the brink of insolvency, the U.S. gross national product was reduced by 47%, our unemployment rate tripled from 8% to 25% in less than 24 months, and what had been a national economic recession triggered by the New York Stock Market Crash of 1929 - which that stock market had already recovered from - soon ballooned into the worldwide economic collapse known today as the Great Depression.

    Two years after Hoover had signed Sen. Smoot's and Rep. Hawley's bill into law, with the U.S. economy in free fall, all three men were soundly beaten in the 1932 election, alongside 12 other Senate Republicans and 102 GOP House members. On March 4, 1933, Franklin Delano Roosevelt took the oath of office as president and, in partnership with a new Democratic-controlled Congress, immediately implemented a series of executive actions and introduced a package of legislative measures that amounted to economic triage for a wounded nation in crisis.

    The late philosopher George Santayana once counseled us that those who fail to remember the past are condemned to repeat it. That's cold comfort for those of us who do remember, but who are effectively captive to current events inside Washington, D.C., with a malevolent clown car known as the second Trump administration now on a joyride.

    Aloha.

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    Smooth/Hawley (none / 0) (#35)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 14, 2025 at 05:42:29 PM EST
    Even I remember Smooth Hawley from somewhere.

    There is something about this trashing around and spewing  executive orders bound to be stopped the next day that's looks a little desperate.

    Like he's thinking about next year's election too,

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    Strategy (none / 0) (#36)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Feb 15, 2025 at 07:50:31 PM EST
    if you can call it that I think was to overwhelm everybody and keep bulldozing his garbage through.

    Elon's so called doge is despised by the majority of Americans. Even Nazi Steve understands the problem. If you are going to say you're for the "little guy" and then hire a billionaire who obviously cares nothing for anybody but himself it's pretty obvious where your priorities lie.

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    Imagine for a moment (none / 0) (#31)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Feb 13, 2025 at 05:35:15 PM EST
    what that would mean

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    That actually (none / 0) (#34)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Feb 14, 2025 at 01:37:31 PM EST
    is very good news considering how early in the cycle it is.

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