Wednesday Open Thread: Respect for Puerto Rico

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2024
Posted on Wed Oct 30, 2024 at 05:31:54 PM EST
Tags: Trump, Puerto Rico (all tags)

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Reggaeton music artist Nicky Jam has rescinded his endorsement of Donald Trump as a result of the racist and degrading comments delivered by a comedian who performed at a recent Trump campaign event, particularly those targeting Puerto Rico and Puerto Ricans.

Nicky Jam was one of the only Reggaeton artists to support Trump. He got a lot of heat from other musicians about it. He attended a Trump rally in Las Vegas in September, where Trump, having no idea who he was, introduced him as a female telling the audience "She's hot." Today, in rescinding his endorsement in this Instagram video in Spanish he said: (rough translation)

"The reason why I supported Donald Trump was because I thought it was the best thing for the economy in the United States, where many Latinos live ... I thought it was the best move. Never in my life did I think that a month later a comedian was going to come to criticize my country and talk bad about my country and therefore, I renounce any support to Donald Trump and That’s why I’m renouncing my support for Donald Trump and stepping away from any political conversation. Puerto Rico deserves respect.” he said.

Puerto Ricans can't vote in the U.S. Presidential election, but they have a lot of weight with relatives and friends who can vote. Nicky Jam has 43 million followers on Instagram. In 3 hours, the post had more than 85,000 likes.

Also today, Arnold Schwarzenegger broke with Republicans and said he's voting for Kamala Harris. [More...]

The Netflix biographic series about Nicky Jam, Nicky Jam, El Ganador, is really good. My favorite song of his is Hasta La Manacer (video here). It's also the only song of his I can sing along with in Spanish, thanks to this video from the Lyrica app which helps you learn Spanish by singing songs.

I started visiting San Juan on vacations when I was in high school, but always went to San Juan, and hotels in Condado or Miramar. My parents moved from New York to Dorado Beach in Puerto Rico when I started law school. They also lived in Aguadilla. They rented a house on the former Ramey Air Force Base for I think $100 a month, and a beach shack on the famous Rincon surfing beach south of Aguadilla. It's where I spent every law school vacation for three years, each time bringing a different law school friend. I loved those years, and I love Puerto Rico.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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Trick or (5.00 / 1) (#11)
by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 31, 2024 at 02:10:53 PM EST

TREAT

my that (5.00 / 1) (#12)
by Ga6thDem on Thu Oct 31, 2024 at 02:18:08 PM EST

is funny. I have to laugh when conservatives now complain about Drudge and people like George Conway. Nobody elevated Drudge like conservatives.


LOL! (none / 0) (#26)
by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Nov 01, 2024 at 01:49:58 AM EST

Trump looks just like Alec Baldwin's parody on SNL.


: Except (none / 0) (#48)
by Zorba on Sat Nov 02, 2024 at 11:57:02 AM EST

Alec did it better. ;-)

This might be the best political (5.00 / 2) (#14)
by jmacWA on Thu Oct 31, 2024 at 04:15:29 PM EST

ad I've ever seen

: I thought that this one... (5.00 / 1) (#24)
by desertswine on Thu Oct 31, 2024 at 08:30:39 PM EST

is very effective.
It resonates on a certain level.

: This one hit me (5.00 / 2) (#25)
by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 31, 2024 at 09:04:51 PM EST

I've never seen them show surgical scars.

Back to my local deli for a new ad (5.00 / 1) (#22)
by Peter G on Thu Oct 31, 2024 at 08:06:26 PM EST

(the "acting" is unfortunately even worse than the professionally-made Jewish Republican Coalition one staged at the same deli) featuring former PA Governor Rendell, our former local Republican state legislator, the former chair of our county Repub Party, and a young woman I don't recognize, all agreeing they support Harris for President (and they support Israel).

In Arizona, (5.00 / 4) (#29)
by KeysDan on Fri Nov 01, 2024 at 09:21:31 AM EST

Trump said Liz Cheney should be put in front of a firing squad. Nine barrels aimed at her face. And this election is supposedly close? I don't get it!

This is good (5.00 / 1) (#44)
by CaptHowdy on Sat Nov 02, 2024 at 07:50:51 AM EST

Watch right-wing Washington Post columnist quit and walk off livestream

If you like Bohemian Rhapsody (5.00 / 4) (#45)
by jmacWA on Sat Nov 02, 2024 at 08:54:21 AM EST

check this out.

: Great (none / 0) (#46)
by jondee on Sat Nov 02, 2024 at 10:13:58 AM EST

I thought that was Sam Seder in the back row for a second.

Went to (none / 0) (#1)
by Ga6thDem on Wed Oct 30, 2024 at 05:49:19 PM EST

A Harris rally today in Raleigh. Tons of people. She can manage to get to rallies when she is supposed to unlike orange moron who makes his peons wait for sometimes hours.

I am such a roller coaster over this election. I quit watching cable news because I needed Xanax afterwards. Do they realize how much they are stressing voters out ?

The (5.00 / 2) (#2)
by FlJoe on Wed Oct 30, 2024 at 06:17:31 PM EST

stress is a feature, not a bug.


: It certainly seems so (5.00 / 1) (#4)
by Ga6thDem on Thu Oct 31, 2024 at 06:29:40 AM EST

it will get much worse (none / 0) (#3)
by Jeralyn on Wed Oct 30, 2024 at 09:13:31 PM EST

Like on election day waiting for the exit polls to come out.

Kudos to you for going to a rally.


A friend of mine is going out to dinner (none / 0) (#5)
by Ga6thDem on Thu Oct 31, 2024 at 06:30:27 AM EST

On election night for that very reason


I've got a gummy stashed. (5.00 / 4) (#16)
by Chuck0 on Thu Oct 31, 2024 at 05:12:13 PM EST

It's the only way I'll get any sleep that night.


: Someone just gave me some (none / 0) (#23)
by jondee on Thu Oct 31, 2024 at 08:15:08 PM EST

they said just take a third of one so they must be pretty potent.
We don't want another episode here like when my chocoholic wife ate almost an entire Willy Wonka bar she found in the fridge, before realizing it was THC.
The result was equal parts hilarious and concerning. Thank God my daughter was here visiting at the time.

: It's legal here now (none / 0) (#49)
by Zorba on Sat Nov 02, 2024 at 12:15:12 PM EST

So we have no problem with gummies, vapes, whatever suits your fancy.

That's cool. (none / 0) (#27)
by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Nov 01, 2024 at 02:15:08 AM EST

We don't get rallies out here. That's probably because on average, GOP presidential candidates only garner 30% of Hawaii's vote.


Trump is expected to declare victory (none / 0) (#6)
by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 31, 2024 at 12:37:03 PM EST

when the polls close.

If he does he should be arrested.

I really think the performance that's coming could be his final undoing.

You know it's coming (none / 0) (#7)
by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 31, 2024 at 12:40:13 PM EST

Bannon Leaves Jail, Immediately Urges Trump to Falsely Declare Victory Again
"He should step up and inform American citizens..."

Yes (none / 0) (#8)
by Ga6thDem on Thu Oct 31, 2024 at 01:02:07 PM EST

11pm instead of 2:30am.

Start the terrorist attacks earlier I guess. My fervent wish is that it will be an early night and it won't matter what he says.


Good luck with that wish (none / 0) (#9)
by coast on Thu Oct 31, 2024 at 01:15:54 PM EST

I believe a majority of the "battleground states" announced their results at least a day and as long a a few weeks after the last election. Voting is going to be so tight in a number of states, I don't see a winner being evident for sometime after the 5th.


: That is (none / 0) (#10)
by Ga6thDem on Thu Oct 31, 2024 at 01:30:00 PM EST

pretty much the thoughts of the pundits et.al.
Conservatives however are whining about their voters not showing up so far. However that doesn't mean they will not come out on election day.
I just dread yet another repeat of 2020 with the lies, court cases, election officials threatened. It was a literal nightmare in GA. You wondered if you could go somewhere and not be threatened or shot by a Trumper. Four years later Ruby and Shea are finally getting justice for what happened to them.

States will be counting (none / 0) (#17)
by Chuck0 on Thu Oct 31, 2024 at 05:16:10 PM EST

and recounting and then recounting votes again. So there will be no victor Nov. 5. And it's all because of the Orange Moron. It is completely his fault that states will be reluctant to release votes counts too early. They will want to get it right. And that still will not stop that GD blowhard from spewing his vitriol. And the lawsuits.

This SOB has me exhausted. He has been running for 3 GD years now. Eff him. Eff the his GD family. I hope I can outlive him just the pleasure of pi$$ing on his grave.


Oh sure (none / 0) (#18)
by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 31, 2024 at 05:21:35 PM EST

They even stopped attempts to change laws so votes could be counted before election day.

It's insane. But I'm tellin ya. He WILL declare victory election night and then it will be on.


: I'm with you Capt. (none / 0) (#21)
by Chuck0 on Thu Oct 31, 2024 at 06:37:07 PM EST

I agree. He will be declaring victory even before the west coast polls close. I'm sure he doesn't fully grok time zones.
He will be declaring victory by 9pm EST. I'm sure of it.
Here in PA, they cannot count a single mail in ballot before election day. And those votes end up getting counted last. You know, cause, gee it's a busy day.
And there will be much chaos.

About exhaustion (none / 0) (#19)
by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 31, 2024 at 05:24:04 PM EST

you are not alone. I think when he tries this game again it will blow up in his face. Bigly.

No one wants this but the 25% but he is going to try to steal the election.

It's that or prison.


Yep. Or else, ... (5.00 / 1) (#28)
by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Nov 01, 2024 at 02:32:19 AM EST

CaotHowdy: "It's that or prison."

... we'll be reading about Trump fleeing to Riyadh a week or so from now and asking Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman for political asylum. He's got his own plane, and I really can't see him sticking around for his Nov. 26 sentencing date in New York with Judge Juan Merchan. Because if I were His Honor, I'd immediately remand the defendant into custody that day.

Do I sound like I really want him held accountable for what he's done to us? I sure hope so.

;-D


How much would you love (none / 0) (#30)
by CaptHowdy on Fri Nov 01, 2024 at 11:38:27 AM EST

his being grabbed at an airport trying to leave the country?

Let me count the ways.

I'll be surprised if they don't take his passport.
But Putin would need a passport.
I'm betting they are watching him every minute.

He still supposed to be sentenced in a couple of weeks.


Putin, like Trump, has a documented history ... (5.00 / 1) (#33)
by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Nov 01, 2024 at 12:45:52 PM EST

... of disposing of people who no longer serve a useful purpose to him. In that regard, it sure would be a shame to wake up one morning to the news that Trump accidentally fell off a 12th floor hotel balcony in Moscow.

Yes, indeedy, a damn shame. ;-D


I meant to say (none / 0) (#36)
by CaptHowdy on Fri Nov 01, 2024 at 03:39:16 PM EST

Putin would not need a passport. It would be great to catch him in the process of fleeing to Russia

But who knows. The best would be if Putin sent him back.


: Putin (none / 0) (#40)
by Ga6thDem on Fri Nov 01, 2024 at 04:54:16 PM EST

Never returns used assets. Like Donald said they tend to fall out of windows or drink strange tea

KOS (none / 0) (#20)
by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 31, 2024 at 05:28:15 PM EST

MAGA zealots are reportedly planning Jan. 6 chaos--again

He's already accusing Pennsylvanians (none / 0) (#13)
by jondee on Thu Oct 31, 2024 at 04:14:48 PM EST

of cheating.

When is someone of significant influence on the Right going to be Joseph Welch and finally step up and say "Have you no sense of decency, sir?"

I'm not expecting it to come from billionaire baby-man, Elon.

: They found fraudulent registration APPLICATIONS. (5.00 / 1) (#15)
by Chuck0 on Thu Oct 31, 2024 at 05:04:43 PM EST

That's it. Just applications to register. No ballots, not votes, nada. This is a sign that the system actually does work. Someone tried to abuse the system, the system caught them.

The bobbleheads (none / 0) (#31)
by CaptHowdy on Fri Nov 01, 2024 at 11:40:26 AM EST

are all suffering from hysterical exhaustion.

Every time you think the "coverage" can't get any more lame or stupid you are surprised.

I stopped watching awhile ago but a few times a day I check in for a laugh.

I've never really cared for CNN's Van Jones, .... (5.00 / 3) (#34)
by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Nov 01, 2024 at 12:54:29 PM EST

... but he said something a couple of weeks ago in response to Dana Bash's contention that Kamala Harris "needs to provide more specifics" that really struck me, because it succinctly summed up the media's glaring double standards in their campaign coverage:

"Kamala Harris and Donald Trump are not taking the same exam. And I think it bothers people. They're not taking the same exam. He gets to be lawless. She has to be flawless. That's what's unfair, and it's pi$$ing people off."

: A lot (none / 0) (#35)
by Ga6thDem on Fri Nov 01, 2024 at 02:34:38 PM EST

Of that goes back to 2016. People see Kamala getting the full Hillary treatment and aren't having any of it.

Won't rest (none / 0) (#32)
by CaptHowdy on Fri Nov 01, 2024 at 11:42:56 AM EST

until they speak to the last undecided voter at 9pm on Tuesday night.


Deep thoughts (none / 0) (#37)
by CaptHowdy on Fri Nov 01, 2024 at 04:13:33 PM EST

As far as elections, I always thought if we could make the choices clear enough our side would win. Because we have better ideas. Bill Clinton used to say that.

Over my life the clarity of the message has varied. This time we finally get an election that is about all our issues. Our very way of life.

It's the mother of all choice elections. I think we survive. Be careful what you wish for I guess

PS (none / 0) (#38)
by CaptHowdy on Fri Nov 01, 2024 at 04:16:40 PM EST

Surviving it will make us a stronger country


I agree (none / 0) (#39)
by Ga6thDem on Fri Nov 01, 2024 at 04:52:22 PM EST

We will come out better on the other side. I hope it doesn't take four more years to get to the other side.

One thing I give Trump credit for is he separated the wheat from the chaff. That goes for both the left and the right.


: The thing is (5.00 / 1) (#43)
by CaptHowdy on Fri Nov 01, 2024 at 08:40:40 PM EST

whoever the next president is they will preside over a spectacular period of prosperity. All that money they dumped into the economy and the investments in infrastructure.
All stuff that won't really pay off for a few years.
Letting Trump take credit for that would be the greatest injustice of all.

: Yes very much (none / 0) (#42)
by CaptHowdy on Fri Nov 01, 2024 at 08:36:51 PM EST

He ripped off the mask.

The Trump (none / 0) (#41)
by Ga6thDem on Fri Nov 01, 2024 at 04:57:21 PM EST

Campaign called my sisters house here in NC and it seems they have bad software because they kept leaving the same message over and over. We finally told her to pick up the phone and hang up the call

#1 Oregon plays Michigan today. (none / 0) (#47)
by fishcamp on Sat Nov 02, 2024 at 11:56:39 AM EST

Go Ducks.

#TrumpIsGoingDown (none / 0) (#50)
by vml68 on Sat Nov 02, 2024 at 12:27:26 PM EST

I thought we had seen and heard it all when it came to the Orange loon. Apparently, not.

Tr*mp simulates oral s@x with mic.

The Perils of the Good-Enough Candidate (none / 0) (#51)
by RickyJim on Sat Nov 02, 2024 at 01:04:19 PM EST

This is the title of Jay Caspian Kang's critique of the Harris campaign in the New Yorker. I agree with him completely.