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Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil

Only in America. Remember the videotaped beating of the teenager at a gas station outside of LA during the summer of 2002? It almost caused riots, and dominated the news for days. The cop who slammed the kid into the patrol car was charged with assault. He was tried twice and both times the jury deadlocked.

The cop, Jeremy Morse, and his partner sued the city for discrimination saying they had been unfairly "trapped in race situations."

A civil jury has returned a verdict in their favor to the tune of $1.6 million. (Update: This AP report puts the verdict at $2.4 million)

At the time, LA Police Chief Bill Bratton said the officers did not follow departmental policy.

Even the police chief was shocked by the new verdict: Englewood Police Chief Ronald Banks said, "I was shocked at not only the verdict but the size of the awards. It was somewhat ridiculous." The Mayor described the verdict as "inflated and inappropriate," and said the city would decide whether to appeal.

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    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#1)
    by kdog on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 09:29:40 AM EST
    Charles Graner should call their lawyer. Apparently, brutality is profitable, maybe torture is too.

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#2)
    by Patrick on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 10:30:28 AM EST
    He didn't win for punching the kid, although doing so appears justifed in the eyes of the jury since at least one of them decided the officer was not guilty. According to the article the officer won the money because another jury agreed that he was the victim of racism when he, being white, was fired by the black chief of police while the other minority officer involved was only suspended.

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#3)
    by Patrick on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 10:34:23 AM EST
    TL, Your link about Chief Bill Bratton seems to be related to a different incident. This one occurred in Inglewood, and involves the kid at the gas station. The other involes the car chase, foot pursuit and apparent use of a flashlight as an impact weapon. On filmed by a bystander, the other by a news helicopter. I could be wrong though.

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#4)
    by Che's Lounge on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 10:47:12 AM EST
    In the psych community this is referred to as positive reinforcement. The other involves the car chase, foot pursuit and apparent use of a flashlight as an impact weapon. Do you mean to say that he beat him with a flashlight? I love doublespeak.

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#5)
    by Patrick on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 10:57:16 AM EST
    Che, I meant to say exactly what I said. If you've got a problem with it, I'm sorry.

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#6)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 11:11:10 AM EST
    But isn't it entrapment when you force rednecks to work with colored folk?

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#7)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 11:18:25 AM EST
    Wry - Uh, dude, rednecks come in all colors and sexes. But, as a Yankee, ya'll don't know much 'bout much, so we forgive ya'll. -C

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#8)
    by jondee on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 11:36:39 AM EST
    One of the cardinal signs of aforementioned,sadly still in abundance species - Cliff's generalizations. Yankee this Bubba..

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#9)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 12:15:45 PM EST
    jondee - LOL, coming from you of all people. -C

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#10)
    by wishful on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 12:34:27 PM EST
    Where is the demand for tort reform?

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#11)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 02:16:04 PM EST
    Since there's already some jerking knee related confusion, we might as well roll with it. So, what about the cop in the flashlight incident? Should he be fired and sued for beating a Person of Color?

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#12)
    by Jlvngstn on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 03:24:25 PM EST
    Patrick: The white cop punched and slammed the kid, and they both subsequently lied. Was the black officer accused of assault as well? Lying on a report and assault i would imagine carry different penalties, no?

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#13)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 03:54:43 PM EST
    In the Inglewood - oops, I mean Englewood - case, the black officer apparently hit the suspect with his flashlight. In the Compton case - involved LAPD officers - the Hispanic officer beat the suspect with this flashlight. At this point in time, the threads usually stop or there's a change of subject. However, occasionally a brave liberal will chime in with an explanation, such as: "Well, see, it's like this. Yes, they were Officers Of Color beating on Perps Of Color. However, one or more of their supervisors was a Person Of Pallor, and they had created a racist environment and brainwashed the Officers Of Color into Oreo/Coconut behavior in order to perpetuate the Patriarchy and Oppress the Neighborhoods Of Color."

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#14)
    by Jlvngstn on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 04:11:24 PM EST
    I didn't catch that it was 2 cases thanks LWB.

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#15)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 06:54:49 PM EST
    i thought the issue was that a cop was overly violent with a suspect? why are the races of the cops or the suspects being made part of the issue? the only mention of race i saw was in the ap report;
    Morse, who is white, sued the mostly black city of Inglewood alleging he was disciplined unfairly because a black officer who was also at the scene, but never charged, was suspended for only five days. He claimed racial discrimination and on Tuesday was awarded the damages.
    i obviously don't know all of the details of the situation. but i don't see talk left making it into a racial issue, only an issue of police brutality.

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#16)
    by Patrick on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 08:09:48 PM EST
    Kelite, The suit for which the offer won money was a discrimination suit and was separate from the brutality case in which he was not convicted due to hung juries in two trials. JL, The officer was aquitted on the charge of filing a false police report, so I don't know where your trying to go with your comment...

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#17)
    by Patrick on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 08:12:07 PM EST
    as for the size of the award, I believe that's something called punitive damages, no?

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#18)
    by Johnny on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 10:11:18 PM EST
    All color comments aside-why are cops behaving this way?

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#19)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 10:45:44 PM EST
    All color comments aside-why are cops behaving this way? I am guessing poor training plus an adrenaline rush.

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#20)
    by Patrick on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 10:59:03 PM EST
    Well to hear the cop tell it, the kid he punched was grabbing for his testicles and his reaction was a defensive one. Take that however you want to, but apparently the juries in both criminal trials felt it was compelling enough that they were unable to reach a unanimous verdit.

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#21)
    by Jlvngstn on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 06:16:11 AM EST
    Patrick, ease up you paranoid angry man. My question was simple, one was accused of lying the other assault, it seems to me that there are different levels of punishment for those wrongs and I was confused as to why their would be any question as to fairness. It seems to me that assault would garner a stronger statement i.e. the firing than the lying, which is why I inquired.

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#22)
    by Patrick on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 06:47:01 AM EST
    JL, Didn't know I needed to ease up or that I was paranoid and angry, thanks for helping me out.....Or perhaps you read a lot into my post that wasn't there....Either way... No there is no real difference except for the fact that once an officer has lied about a material fact, his/her usefulness as an officer is over. I refer you to the Brady Law, which requires the DA to turn over any information about a potential witness that may effect their credibility. ie..past instances of lying. Ask the defense attorneys in here, they're probably far more versed in the law than I. An officer can be convicted of an assault and in some circumstances maintain their qualifications under the law. I personally wouldn't consider either cop a model, but my standards aren't the industry's or the law's.

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#23)
    by Jlvngstn on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 07:39:32 AM EST
    The officer was aquitted on the charge of filing a false police report, so I don't know where your trying to go with your comment... You felt the need to bold acquitted, and "where you are trying to go with your comment" demonstrates your paranoia. It was a fair question to ask and I had not demonstrated or eluded to any hidden agenda, as would be the case with a question posed as such: "The white cop assaulted the black defendant and the black cop lied out of fear of being persecuted or ostracized by his fellow white officers" That would be a question with a hidden agenda. You are an angry man and paranoid, neither are good qualites for a peace officer. But thank you for your explanation on assault vs lying, I had chalked them up in my book as unequal offenses and it would appear that there are other mitigating circumstances taken into consideration prior to determining punishment.

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#24)
    by Patrick on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 12:01:39 PM EST
    Thank you Dr. Freud.

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#25)
    by Patrick on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 04:24:19 PM EST
    TL, You took the time to delete my post about the incorrect link, but still failed to fix it. Bill Bratton's comments, which you link to, are not related to this incident in Inglewood. Seem you are intentionally misleading your readers. I had first though it was possibly an error, but I guess not.

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#26)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 04:51:59 PM EST
    Patrick, I think you are losing it. The exact quote that I provided the link to in the above post:
    Los Angeles Police Chief William Bratton told the City Council in a 2 hour briefing that the officers involved in the videotaped beating of Stanley Miller, who had surrendered to police before the hits began, did not follow departmental policy: "It is a mess. It is not what we teach at the academy," Bratton told the Los Angeles City Council during a two-hour briefing Wednesday.....He said a series of tactical errors were made during the arrest, beginning with an officer who holstered his gun before tackling Miller when he should have kept it trained on the suspect while other officers handcuffed him. Officer John Hatfield's kicking of Miller also was not departmental policy, he said. "We don't teach kicks," Bratton said.


    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#27)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 04:53:21 PM EST
    Pstrick, I don't recall deleting your link but you know that urls must be in html format or I delete them. That's been the comment policy, clearly stated, forever. Post your link correctly and it will stay.

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#28)
    by Patrick on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 05:29:43 PM EST
    Talk left, The kid in the incident that got Officer Morse fired is named DONOVAN JACKSON, not Stanley Miller. You just need to look at your own links.....Not mine. Bratton's comments are about a completely different incident I'm not losing it, but I think you must be confused then, because they are two separate incidents....

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#29)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 11:16:19 PM EST
    Sorry, Patrick, you are right. I guess I should have figured more than one set of LA-area officers have been videotaped beating suspects. :)

    Re: Cop Punches Kid on Tape, Wins $2.4 Mil (none / 0) (#30)
    by Patrick on Fri Jan 21, 2005 at 06:48:00 AM EST
    Yup, hard enough keeping them straight, but thanks for re-checking..