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An April Snowstorm

By Jeralyn, Section Off Topic
Posted on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 12:18:48 PM EST
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Hope you weren't planning on flying in or out of Denver today. Not a chance.

Update: It's midnight and still snowing. The wind is still strong. But since it's wet, spring snow, the roads are fairly clear.

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    An April Snowstorm | 12 comments (12 topical)
    Re: An April Snowstorm (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 01:58:00 PM EST
    Ugh, I've been without cable (and hence without Internet) since last night. So I missed out on all the people commenting at Americablog calling me everything from a Bush-loving fascist to a religious right troll for saying that Clinton wasn't that liberal. Hello!?! DOMA, NAFTA, don't ask don't tell, expanded the federal death penalty, welfare to work, and final nail in the coffin of his legacy in my mind--telling John Kerry right before the '04 election to endorse the Federal Marriage Amendment in order to pick up votes in the south. He's an opportunist, not a liberal.

    Re: An April Snowstorm (none / 0) (#2)
    by cp on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 02:48:43 PM EST
    i am convinced, as though i needed more convincing: no moving to denver for me! snowstorms in april? a lovely town, great bookstore, nice restaurants, but who needs snow in april? michael, much as i hate to, i must agree with you to some extent. actually, i would put clinton close to the jfk brand of "liberal", which he wasn't. that said, he was at least intelligent, more than can be said for our current "commander-in-chief".

    Re: An April Snowstorm (none / 0) (#3)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 03:00:55 PM EST
    Oh yeah, I think he was a pretty good "centrist" president, don't get me wrong. He's a consummate politician, and by the cheers he got in Rome (as opposed to Bush's jeers) obviously a much better statesman. Liberal? No.

    Re: An April Snowstorm (none / 0) (#4)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 03:14:06 PM EST
    Clinton was no liberal on criminal justice issues. He also was far too centrist on privacy and civil liberties issues. Increased wiretapping and mandatory minimum sentences come to mind as examples of policies he embraced. That's why I advocated here in 2002, that our 2004 Democratic presidential nominee should be one with non-centrist but true Democratic values, which include individual freedom and privacy, fair treatment of immigrants, meting out just but not excessive sentences while stressing rehabilitation--and providing every child with an equal opportunity to succeed.

    Re: An April Snowstorm (none / 0) (#5)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 03:25:15 PM EST
    Dang. Your weather ends up here after a couple of days.

    Re: An April Snowstorm (none / 0) (#6)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 03:26:18 PM EST
    And I was surprised to see some snow here in Albuquerque. I heard they closed the freeway between here and Denver too...

    Re: An April Snowstorm (none / 0) (#7)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 03:39:37 PM EST
    Aww, this is nothing. We've hardly had any snow all winter. Yesterday it was in the 60's, and the day after tomorrow it will be in the 70's. It's been a pretty easy winter overall. What I can't stand about Denver weather is the dryness--my sinuses are like hamburger, my hands peel, my lips bleed...all winter long. My 9 gallon humidifier filled before bed is empty by morning just keeping the humidity in my 710 sqft condo at 50%.

    Re: An April Snowstorm (none / 0) (#8)
    by desertswine on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 04:14:47 PM EST
    Because of the snow, I spent the day doing my taxes. MyGod, I can't afford to live anymore. Today they closed the I-25 because of snow. Yesterday they closed I-40 because of blowing dirt. You can't win.

    Re: An April Snowstorm (none / 0) (#9)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 04:32:53 PM EST
    Mike D - What was it two years ago, end of March... 53". All wimps stay in TX, CA and other points east. Yes, I miss Denver. As for Sweet William, everyone loved him because he always told everyone what they wanted to hear. His administration lifted polling to the nth degree. He slid through 8 years propelled by the peace dividen and the internet bubble. And yes, I miss Clinton. He made the worst in us acceptable.

    Re: An April Snowstorm (none / 0) (#10)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 05:04:29 PM EST
    PPJ, there's a Clinton thread now.

    Re: An April Snowstorm (none / 0) (#11)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 05:15:15 PM EST
    Yeah, that was a kick-ass storm. It decimated the Blue Spruce trees in my grandma's front yard. We managed to save three (though they are ugly, but they will fill in) but the grandest of them got some kind of disease and we had to have it cut down. Such a shame, it was 45 years old.

    Re: An April Snowstorm (none / 0) (#12)
    by cp on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 10:15:07 PM EST
    ppj, did i miss some cataclysmic geographical event? last time i checked, CA was west of CO. at least, it was the last time i flew to SF. geez, you don't go to a place for a couple of years, and they move it on you! at some point, during an eight year term in office, you have to take some responsibility for what goes on, good or bad. if not, why the hell are you there? eventually, gw is going to have to admit, publicly, that he is the president, and some bad things happened while he was in office. he'll have to stop blaming clinton for all the ills that befall us. i think clinton can justifiably take some credit for starting to pay down the national debt, the peace dividend notwithstanding. he could just as easily have gone on a spending spree, and reduced taxes. he made the tough and unpopular decision, for long-term purposes, to be a responsible adult. it's a pretty sad commentary, on how far the republicans have fallen from their roots, when a democratic president is regarded as more fiscally responsible than a republican one. however, there is precedence for this: ronald reagan, who left office after eight years, having increased the national debt four-fold, from what it had been when he first took office.

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