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A Night of Candlelight

By TChris, Section War In Iraq
Posted on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 07:17:03 AM EST
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Cindy Sheehan's protest is taking on its own life as her supporters held more than 1,500 candlelight vigils across the country last night.

Some 250 supporters gathered for a vigil in Somerville, Mass., north of Boston, while 150 people turned out in White Plains and 200 people assembled in a field next to the expressway west of downtown Chicago. In New York, people gathered at 106th Street and Broadway, and in Riverside Park.

Disgust with the president's war will continue to spread as soldiers continue to die. Four soldiers were killed today by a roadside bomb.

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    A Night of Candlelight | 22 comments (22 topical)
    Re: A Night of Candlelight (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:28 PM EST
    Had to run out and buy emergency pizza fixings last night and there were 12 kids at the Franklin Street Post Office in Chapel Hill. Permanent Population: 75K Student Population: 22K -C

    Re: A Night of Candlelight (none / 0) (#2)
    by desertswine on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:28 PM EST
    Six more US deaths yesterday.

    Re: A Night of Candlelight (none / 0) (#3)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:28 PM EST
    Cliff, Thanks for that worthless piece of information.

    Re: A Night of Candlelight (none / 0) (#4)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:28 PM EST
    Cliff - I thought I saw a glow in the east. ;-)

    Re: A Night of Candlelight (none / 0) (#5)
    by DawesFred60 on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:28 PM EST
    this is becoming a real people movement against bush and this war. she is the start of the real freedom movement in this non nation of political prostitutes. let us all hope she will win for her dead son and the coming millions who do not wish to follow rats like bush and business. way to go long live real freedom from real Anti Americans like bush. Where is Bin Laden?

    Re: A Night of Candlelight (none / 0) (#6)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:28 PM EST
    We had 400 people at the vigil in Albany NY, and there were another 300 in nearby Saratoga.

    Re: A Night of Candlelight (none / 0) (#7)
    by Al on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:28 PM EST
    Cliff and PPJ: Newsweek poll, Aug. 2-4: "We'd like your opinion of the way George W. Bush is handling certain aspects of his job. Do you approve or disapprove of the way Bush is handling the situation in Iraq?" Approve 24%, Disapprove 61%, Unsure 5%. There's a glow all right.

    Re: A Night of Candlelight (none / 0) (#8)
    by Johnny on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:28 PM EST
    Cliff-how many Bush signs were people waving around?

    Re: A Night of Candlelight (none / 0) (#9)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:28 PM EST
    et al - Let's cut to the chase. Mrs. Sheehan does not speak for all parents. From the WSJ.
    I grieve with Mrs. Sheehan, for all too well I know the full measure of the agony she is forever going to endure. I honor her son for his service and sacrifice. However, I abhor all that she represents and those who would cast her as the symbol for parents of our fallen soldiers.
    Re: A Night of Candlelight (none / 0) (#10)
    by soccerdad on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:28 PM EST
    Mrs. Sheehan does not speak for all parents.
    No one does, but that does not make her point of view any less relevant or meaningful.

    Re: A Night of Candlelight (none / 0) (#11)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:28 PM EST
    SD - If you compare the attention paid to her you would think she spoke for all. Aint true, SD. Aint true. What you are seeing here is main stream media's ability to harm the county in their quest to save it.

    Re: A Night of Candlelight (none / 0) (#12)
    by Dadler on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:28 PM EST
    "I abhor all that she represents?" Jim, the statement above does not lead me to believe this parent is someone capable of rational discussion. It is an extremist statement of the blanket variety, and the product, understandably, of a grieving, angry mind. The grief and anger I understand, the extremism of the accusation I'm not on board with. Still, did you really think Sheehan spoke for EVERY parent? That she doesn't is an inarguable point, I don't think SHE'D argue it, and I don't think it adds anything to the debate. Except to hilight that her representative status has come from many other parents identifying with her, as well as many other ordinary citizens. That can't be denied. If the parent you quoted has a mass following of people who abhor ALL that Sheehan represents, I haven't seen them. Not that they might not exist, but only to suggest that Sheehan is, to most people, a person of integrity and passion, who isn't pointing fingers at other parents. She is pointing them at the administration, and trying to get them to take heed.

    Re: A Night of Candlelight (none / 0) (#13)
    by Dadler on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:28 PM EST
    The mass media are harming the country by covering Cindy Sheehan??? Jim, you've completely lost me. Entirely. That statement is so desperately illogical. A free American, standing up to the powers that be, in the name and spirit of her dead son, is anything but harmful. NOT covering her would be a crime. This is a case where the MSM has gotten it right, even if only because the ratings are good. You and I, Jimbo, couldn't be further apart in our views of Cindy Sheehan and the coverage. Galaxies apart. Ack, it just depresses me. Rangers or Astros?

    Re: A Night of Candlelight (none / 0) (#14)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:29 PM EST
    That "mass media is harming the country" comment is straight from FOX "news". I caught one of their commnentators saying that last night for a couple of seconds before I could change the channel. Look, last night thousands of Americans, including families of active duty military, Iraq and other war veterans, and even some active duty guys (my brother being one of them--he was at a vigil in New Orleans)were standing with Cindy and demanding answers from Bush and an end to the war. The media is reporting what happened. They are, in this case, responding to events and a growing sentiment in this country. If thousands of Americans had gone out and held anti-Cindy vigils, I am sure those would have been covered, too. Just remember, almost 1/2 the voters this november voted against BUSH-CHENEY. If y'all right wingers would just do the math, it wouldn't be so surprising to you guys why so many people are speaking up against the war right now.

    Re: A Night of Candlelight (none / 0) (#15)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:29 PM EST
    When the people are LIED TO, their emotional reactions can be various. Mrs. Sheehan is someone with the moral authority to stir people's hearts. So the rightwing LIARS are desperately afraid of her. What a Marine mom, standing up to the entire chain of command if necessary. Casey had quite a lot to be proud of, including his country before Bush stole our honor with HIS lies, HIS greed, HIS amorality, HIS failure to serve our democracy.

    Re: A Night of Candlelight (none / 0) (#16)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:29 PM EST
    No Bush signs, we were all making dinner for our kids and getting ready to go to work. -C

    Re: A Night of Candlelight (none / 0) (#18)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:29 PM EST
    PIL writes:
    Mrs. Sheehan is someone with the moral authority to stir people's hearts.
    Sorry, but I see no authority. Can you be specific? lulu - Please provide details. If FNC is copying my work, I expect to be paid. BTW - Let me repeat. How many millions do you think will die if we cut and run? Have you asked for water to wash your hands? dadler writes:
    Jim, the statement above does not lead me to believe this parent is someone capable of rational discussion.
    daler, you do not have the right to question this person's ability to have a rational discussion about the loss of their son. Sorry dude, but you are way off base. PIL writes:
    What a Marine mom, standing up to the entire chain of command if necessary.
    Uh, I believe he was in the Army. Now I know you don't know the difference, but trust me. Statements like the above make you look very dumb.

    Re: A Night of Candlelight (none / 0) (#19)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:30 PM EST
    Posted by Jim: "Sorry, but I see no authority. Can you be specific?" You have to have a moral sense in order to notice such authority. He was Army. So you can go ahead and think he was a wimp, or whatever you think that's worth. I just spoke to a non-political acquaintance who had to call to tell me that on their bus ride down Ventura Blvd., they saw corner after corner of candlelight vigiling across the Valley on Wed. The woman said that the impact was quite surprising, and that several people in the bus were crying.

    Re: A Night of Candlelight (none / 0) (#20)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:31 PM EST
    PIL writes:
    He was Army. So you can go ahead and think he was a wimp, or whatever you think that's worth.
    My point was you don't know what you are talking about. You make up definitions for words and quotes from people. In short, you're full of it, dear PIL. As for moral authority, it is either there, or it isn't. In this case it isn't.

    Re: A Night of Candlelight (none / 0) (#22)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:31 PM EST
    BTW - Let me repeat. How many millions do you think will die if we cut and run? Have you asked for water to wash your hands?
    You could repeat that crap a million times and it doesn't change the fact that every drop of blood that has fallen, is falling, or will fall in Iraq is on the hands of this administration and its supporters. And it it's permanent, you can't wash it off or pass it on, try as you might.

    Re: A Night of Candlelight (none / 0) (#23)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:31 PM EST
    How many thousands would be alive if we hadn't illegally invaded in the first place jimbo? Your "millions will die" is pure speculation, and lame at that. Where did you learn such fear mongering I wonder?

    Re: A Night of Candlelight (none / 0) (#24)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:32 PM EST
    Posted by Jim: "My point was you don't know what you are talking about." If that was your point, you haven't made it. I said he was a Marine (because Jon Stewart had said so in a joke), even though I knew the day before that he was an Army Specialist, as can be seen by my previous postings. That's quite a Marine mom becomes That's quite an Army mom. I don't see a difference in those two things, but obviously you lot do. You don't respect Gold Star Mothers, or Purple Heart Recipients, or our troops in general. YOU SUPPORT THE POLICY, SCAROO THE TROOPS

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