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Report: Katrina Doctors Killed Patients Out of Mercy

The Sunday Mail has an agonizing report, quoting a rescue doctor in New Orleans:

Doctors working in hurricane-ravaged New Orleans killed critically ill patients rather than leaving them to die in agony as they evacuated hospitals, The Mail on Sunday can reveal. With gangs of rapists and looters rampaging through wards in the flooded city, senior doctors took the harrowing decision to give massive overdoses of morphine to those they believed could not make it out alive.

In an extraordinary interview with The Mail on Sunday, one New Orleans doctor told how she 'prayed for God to have mercy on her soul' after she ignored every tenet of medical ethics and ended the lives of patients she had earlier fought to save.

Her heart-rending account has been corroborated by a hospital orderly and by local government officials. One emergency official, William 'Forest' McQueen, said: "Those who had no chance of making it were given a lot of morphine and lain down in a dark place to die."

The doctor said: "I didn't know if I was doing the right thing. But I did not have time. I had to make snap decisions, under the most appalling circumstances, and I did what I thought was right.

"I injected morphine into those patients who were dying and in agony. If the first dose was not enough, I gave a double dose. And at night I prayed to God to have mercy on my soul."

The doctor, who finally fled her hospital late last week in fear of being murdered by the armed looters, said: "This was not murder, this was compassion. They would have been dead within hours, if not days. We did not put people down. What we did was give comfort to the end.

"I had cancer patients who were in agony. In some cases the drugs may have speeded up the death process. We divided patients into three categories: those who were traumatised but medically fit enough to survive, those who needed urgent care, and the dying." ...."It came down to giving people the basic human right to die with dignity."

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  • Re: Report: Katrina Doctors Killed Patients Out of (none / 0) (#1)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:41 PM EST
    Let's see Frist try to jump on this one. He will be hoisted by his own petard, and perhaps take a few others out with him.

    Re: Report: Katrina Doctors Killed Patients Out of (none / 0) (#2)
    by Kitt on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:41 PM EST
    Mr McQueen has been working closely with emergency teams and added: "They had to make unbearable decisions."


    Tragedy upon tragedy. This will really screw these doctors up. Nearly all are fanatically committed to "first, do no harm." Poor people.

    isnt that murder? i hope the lawnorder folks prosecute the poor doctors. id love to see the wingnuts being forced to justify their 'life is always precious' nonsense. perhaps america can have an adult conversation about euthanasia

    Re: Report: Katrina Doctors Killed Patients Out of (none / 0) (#5)
    by jen on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:41 PM EST
    God bless those doctors, I hope they find peace with themselves. What a horrific situation for a doctor and/or nurse to be in.

    Re: Report: Katrina Doctors Killed Patients Out of (none / 0) (#6)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:41 PM EST
    I suspect that these doctors felt that they had been left between an immoveable rock and an unbearably hard place, and applied "alleviate and avoid causing suffering and offer as peaceful an unavoidable death as possible" under the circumstances" to their patients... I hope they'll do the same for me, should I ever be in a similar circumstance. They are heroes.

    Re: Report: Katrina Doctors Killed Patients Out of (none / 0) (#7)
    by Lis Riba on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:41 PM EST
    When folks were making sick jokes about telling Bush that Terri Schiavo was in New Orleans to get him to act more quickly, who knew how right that was...

    One of the saddest things I've read on this awful tragedy. Not surprising, but dreadful all the same.

    Re: Report: Katrina Doctors Killed Patients Out of (none / 0) (#9)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:42 PM EST
    Yes, I too hope they would do the same for me. The scars from these acts will last a lifetime, I only hope these doctors realize they had no other choice and that they did the humane thing.

    Re: Report: Katrina Doctors Killed Patients Out of (none / 0) (#10)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:42 PM EST
    I also hope the jesus patrol doesn't start hounding and condeming the doctors who were forced to make such tough decisions.

    Re: Report: Katrina Doctors Killed Patients Out of (none / 0) (#11)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:42 PM EST
    kdog: I also hope the jesus patrol doesn't start hounding and condeming the doctors... Condemn? Isn't that what they do best?

    Posted by kdog: "I only hope these doctors realize they had no other choice and that they did the humane thing." The HUMANE thing? Are you freakin' kidding? If not for Bush's feud with Fidel Castro, the expert Cuban hurricane-rescue teams would have deployed as soon as the storm allowed transport. Most of the people lost due to dehydration would be alive. Those doctors were forced to do a horrible, horrible thing -- and the guilt belongs to George Bush. They ought to realize who they were screwed by, because that's the only place they're going to get forgiveness for their malfeasance against healing. These patients were NOT asking to die. They were murdered due to a logistical problem that could have been avoided. That's anything but 'humane.'

    Re: Report: Katrina Doctors Killed Patients Out of (none / 0) (#13)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:44 PM EST
    Yes Paul, the humane thing. Regardless of who screwed the pooch and abandoned the sick (and their doctors), the doctors were left with a choice of leaving their patients to die of dehydration or hunger; or giving them a lethal dose of morphine. The morphine was the humane choice.

    Re: Report: Katrina Doctors Killed Patients Out of (none / 0) (#14)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:45 PM EST
    Where are the right to lifers? Checking the Bible for loopholes? They're not there thumpers. Hurricane Katrina and FEMA just reduced your philosophy into a bunch of worthless tripe.

    Here's a right-to-lifer, since you asked. PIL is right (holy cow!). It was murder. Not sure exactly what else you want to know, it's pretty simple here. Some good medical personnel got stuck in a tough situation. A few of them apparently got overwhelmed by events and decided to start killing patients. Bad call. What else is there to say? (other than that I must be an inhuman Nazi bastard to even suggest such thoughts..etc..etc)

    Re: Report: Katrina Doctors Killed Patients Out of (none / 0) (#16)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:46 PM EST
    Doctors working in hurricane-ravaged New Orleans killed critically ill patients rather than leaving them to die in agony as they evacuated hospitals, The Mail on Sunday can reveal. With gangs of rapists and looters rampaging through wards in the flooded city, senior doctors took the harrowing decision to give massive overdoses of morphine to those they believed could not make it out alive grad student:
    Here's a right-to-lifer, since you asked. PIL is right (holy cow!). It was murder
    What would you have done, grad? Leave critically ill patients unable to fend for themselves to drown, starve, or otherwise "die in agony" of dehydration, infection, or at the hand of someone else? I have to say I'm glad I wasn't one of these patients, with you as one of the doctors. Right-to-lifer? Compassionate Conservatism? Uh, huh...

    Re: Report: Katrina Doctors Killed Patients Out of (none / 0) (#17)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:46 PM EST
    Grad, PIL was using the term murder in the context of who CREATED the situation, not whoe actually performed the euthanasias. If anyone wants to imply that these medical personnel were murderers, I can certainly risk being banned form this site by describing your true makeup. THIS WAS NOT MURDER!

    For the doctors, it was not murder, though they don't get off the hook with this idiotic 'it was humane' nonsense. And they know that more than any of us. Here's the key line: "With gangs of rapists and looters rampaging through wards in the flooded city" These hospitals were not destroyed, their patients lost. These hospitals were functioning, but the doctors despaired (correctly) of rescue, for them and their patients. Their actions MUST be followed by an inquest, and there will be a host of lawsuits and probably some convictions. The idea that it is just 'humane,' because it sounds good to you to say that, is HILARIOUS. These were people with families, people who may have chosen ANY level of agony in order to continue to live. Absent an inquest, there is no way to simply call it humane. It was euthanasia -- there was no malice -- it can't be murder -- for the doctors. For the president who refused Cuba's crack hurricane rescue squads, and for FEMA which failed to deploy troops to control looting, who failed to rescue the hospitals, it was negligent homicide.

    "What would you have done, grad? Leave critically ill patients unable to fend for themselves to drown," How would they drown? They were INSIDE a still standing hospital. "starve, or otherwise "die in agony" of dehydration, infection, or at the hand of someone else?" STAY WITH THE PATIENTS. Gather weapons and materials to keep those patients as safe as possible. It has to be determined WHY these doctors fled, and whether that was a legitimate decision, before any kind of analysis of the morality of this 'euthanasia.' How many of these patients were conscious?

    Re: Report: Katrina Doctors Killed Patients Out of (none / 0) (#20)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:46 PM EST
    ...as they evacuated hospitals... The doctor said: "I didn't know if I was doing the right thing. But I did not have time. I had to make snap decisions, under the most appalling circumstances, and I did what I thought was right. "I injected morphine into those patients who were dying and in agony. If the first dose was not enough, I gave a double dose. And at night I prayed to God to have mercy on my soul." The doctor, who finally fled her hospital late last week in fear of being murdered by the armed looters, said: "This was not murder, this was compassion. They would have been dead within hours, if not days. We did not put people down. What we did was give comfort to the end. Quit the self-righteous screeching. This was not murder, these patients were dying, the hospital was being evac'd... These doctors will suffer for what happened for the rest of their lives. You remind me why I do not belong to or identify with organized religion, or "compassionate confused-atism"...

    Re: Report: Katrina Doctors Killed Patients Out of (none / 0) (#21)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:46 PM EST
    grad-God's flood waters were just cleaning up a few mistakes, heh? How biblical. They should have of suffered more for their sins by dying slow agonizing deaths, right? In your book the compassionate doctors will really pay in hell or before. Is that how your frozen heart tells the story? Compassion is only theoretical in your book. What a hypocrite.

    Re: Report: Katrina Doctors Killed Patients Out of (none / 0) (#22)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:46 PM EST
    If I threaten to torture you for eternity will you worship me too? Grow up.

    What would I have done? Dunno; I'm as fallible as the next individual. But I do know what I should do in that situation: stay with the patients and die protecting them if necessary.

    Re: Report: Katrina Doctors Killed Patients Out of (none / 0) (#24)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:46 PM EST
    Grad: Instead of mindlessly parotting what you've been programmed to think you "should" do, here's what you "could" do: Try removing the word "should" from your vocabulary, and replacing it with an open mind and some real human compassion for a change.

    Grad is a strict pro-lifer (right?). No taking of life. Period. If it isn't self defense, it isn't acceptable. It's a position I can respect, even if I don't agree with it. I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the death penalty, however.

    Re: Report: Katrina Doctors Killed Patients Out of (none / 0) (#26)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:47 PM EST
    They would have been dead within hours, if not days. We did not put people down. What we did was give comfort to the end. "I had cancer patients who were in agony. In some cases the drugs may have speeded up the death process. We divided patients into three categories: those who were traumatised but medically fit enough to survive, those who needed urgent care, and the dying." ...."It came down to giving people the basic human right to die with dignity."

    Re: Report: Katrina Doctors Killed Patients Out of (none / 0) (#27)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:47 PM EST
    c-law: I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the death penalty, however. I'm not sure if you were asking grad, or me, that question, so here are my thoughts on it, in a nutshell: I have seen and heard of more mistakes and convictions of people in error with the death penalty than I am comfortable with. I think it should be suspended. Life imprisonment without parole allows for review with a chance for a person convicted and sentenced in error to be released. Not entirely satisfactory, I admit... we cannot give an innocent person back years spent behind bars. But, we cannot give a person convicted, sentenced to death, and executed in error, his or her life back.

    Edger, I was actually asking grad. Sorry for being unclear. But your thoughts are interesting and your position is well reasoned. I happen to be a Catholic, and so know plenty of people who are opposed to killing (or ending any kind of life) at all. On the right, however, you find a lot of people who will rage against abortion/mercy killing/you name it until they're blue in the face, but couldn't care less that we are probably putting innocent people to death.

    Re: Report: Katrina Doctors Killed Patients Out of (none / 0) (#29)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:03:47 PM EST
    c-law: Thank you. I belong to no organized religion, nor do I identify with one. I respect peoples right to their belief systems, as I expect respect for mine. When facing fundamental choices, I ask myself: "What would the child you once were, think of the adult you have become?". Pondering that question usually helps me make choices I can live with and respect myself for.