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'Medical Tests' Confirm Suicide Bomber Told Truth

What kind of military "medical test" confirms one is telling the truth? Did they inject the bomber with scopolamine? Or is a lie dector now a "medical test?" If the military used scopolamine, did the bomber consent or was he given a choice?

A suicide bomber captured before he could blow himself up in a Shiite mosque claimed he was kidnapped, beaten and drugged by insurgents who forced him to take on the mission. The U.S. military said its medical tests indicated the man was telling the truth.

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    If he was drugged, medical tests would confirm that. That doesn't rule out more insidious meanings, but that's what it looks like to me.

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    by desertswine on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:03 PM EST
    The medical tests may have consisted of bamboo splinters under the fingernails, or something like that.

    Re: 'Medical Tests' Confirm Suicide Bomber Told Tr (none / 0) (#3)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:03 PM EST
    Blood lust and the intoxication achieved by dreams of Empire, not to mention billions of dollars growing on money trees free for the taking are all mixed into the truth serum our military and neocon leaders are addicted to, so at least we know that they are beyond reproach, and incapable of lying. Whatever medical evidence they concocted to get the suicide bomber's confession palls in comparison to the "truth drugs" they are on. Everything they say is true, because they say it.

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    by legion on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:03 PM EST
    Yes, I can only assume that the military statement refers to exposure to specific drugs, and possibly the beating as well. But the original article is poorly written and incompetently edited. I'm curious, though... what sort of drugs would one give a coerced suicide bomber? And what evidence would there be that said drugs were taken unwillingly?

    I'd assume the medical tests proved consistent with his claims that he'd been drugged and beaten. Not one of your stronger posts...

    You all may be right. I took this sentence in the article to mean they were testing him for telling the truth.
    Results from medical tests on Ali were "consistent with his story and characterization of his treatment," Col. Billy J. Buckner, a U.S. military spokesman said Sunday.


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    by peacrevol on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:03 PM EST
    He probably was drugged and beaten. That's the kind of people these insurgents are.

    I guess that would make Abu Ghraib a suicide bomber training area?

    Re: 'Medical Tests' Confirm Suicide Bomber Told Tr (none / 0) (#9)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:04 PM EST
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    A suicide bomber captured before he could blow himself up in a Shiite mosque claimed he was kidnapped, beaten and drugged by insurgents who forced him to take on the mission. The U.S. military said its medical tests indicated the man was telling the truth.
    Hmmm, looks pretty straight forward. He claimed to have been drugged. They tested him and found drugs, which indicated he was telling the truth. Of course that's no fun, eh?

    Re: 'Medical Tests' Confirm Suicide Bomber Told Tr (none / 0) (#10)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:04 PM EST
    ppj-now that we have a real truth serum, confirmed to be reliable by our local wingnut hack ppj, we can start administering it to all top government officials and court nominees. It won't be pretty. We may find out that there is a vast conspiracy afoot led by Osama?; all of our leaders have been drugged and forced to destroy America.
    "Those dogs fooled me," he told Iraqi interrogators..... The kidnapping demonstrates the desperation of al-Qaida in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and his ability to execute his strategy," said Buckner. "He knows that he can't win against Iraqi security and coalition forces, and is therefore willing to use innocent Iraqi citizens to further his cause to disrupt the election process and prevent a free and democratic Iraq," he said.
    Sounds like the drugs have not worn off yet or Col. Billy J. Buckner, a U.S. military spokesman is on a way more potent elixir than the suicide bomber.

    Re: 'Medical Tests' Confirm Suicide Bomber Told Tr (none / 0) (#12)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:05 PM EST
    A bit more on Hassan and his Hassassins:
    In the 'History of Alamut' there are at least four etymologies given for the word assassin. 1,User of hashish 2.Follower of Hassan 3.Rowdy people 4.Asas Below I've included excerpts from various sources which argue the 'correct' etymology of the term. Generally contemporary Isma'ili sources reject the 'hash' root entirely (though do not, interestingly enough, reject the Alamutis 'terrorist' reputation) as demeaning to Isma'ilis.... It is said that the word assassin comes from the Arabic word haschishin for hashish user. But Hassan and his followers didn't speak Arabic; they were Persians. Assassin comes from Hassassin -- a follower of Hassan. After many mishaps and wanderings, Hasan became the head of the Persian sect of the Ismailians,--a party of fanatics who had long murmured in obscurity, but rose to an evil eminence under the guidance of his strong and evil will. ...and it is yet disputed where the word Assassin, which they have left in the language of modern Europe as their dark memorial, is derived from the hashish, or opiate of hemp-leaves (the Indian bhang), with which they maddened themselves to the sullen pitch of oriental desperation, or from the name of the founder of the dynasty, whom we have seen in his quiet collegiate days, at Naishapur.
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    Re: 'Medical Tests' Confirm Suicide Bomber Told Tr (none / 0) (#13)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:05 PM EST
    et al - You guys need to look up the word "indicate."