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By Jeralyn, Section Valerie Plame Leak Case
Posted on Wed Nov 02, 2005 at 09:04:55 AM EST
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Did Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld just buy himself a ticket to Fitzgerald's grand jury?

U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said Tuesday he could not recall if he spoke to Vice President Dick Cheney about outed CIA agent Valerie Plame.

...."How would I know if I ever spoke about it with the vice president over five years?" Rusmfeld said at a Pentagon press conference Tuesday. "I don't recall speaking with him about it, and I don't recall the department being involved. Is it possible? I mean, my goodness, that's -- that question is such a -- it's -- what is that game? Fish. Give me all your sevens or something. I mean, that's not for me."

[hat tip Patriot Daily.]

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    Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame | 22 comments (22 topical)
    Re: Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:40 PM EST
    So if I ask you about an arbitrary conversation you had 3 years ago, with someone you speak to all the time, you'll be able to give me an immediate, no possible error answer as to what you did or did not talk about? What color is the sky where you live?

    Re: Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame (none / 0) (#2)
    by desertswine on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:40 PM EST
    Is this the same liar who "knew" where the weapons of mass destruction were? Or is it some other Donald Rumsfeld?
    We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
    Re: Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame (none / 0) (#3)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:40 PM EST
    JR-But if it was about a plot to make the sky turn blood red and a 'Subject' was about to blow five years of planning, dead right you would remember, unless, that is, you had a head injury or developed dementia. Looks like your echo chamber turned to the damage control channel is working loud and clear: 'Gosh the Iraq war, big deal wars happen all the time, leaks, deaths, torture, Wake up, it is the real world'; yes the 'real world' of wingnut damage control spin.

    Re: Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame (none / 0) (#4)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:40 PM EST
    I see desertwine answered a question from a parallel reality. I have another question too - but let me preface it. If Libby is found guilty on the charges he faces, he deserves punishment. What punishment should Sandy Berger get for knowingly removing (and destroying/modifying) classified documents from the archives? Why is he getting a slap on the wrist? Is it only Republican mis-handling of classified data that matters?

    Re: Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame (none / 0) (#5)
    by Kitt on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:40 PM EST
    Is this the same liar who "knew" where the weapons of mass destruction were? Or is it some other Donald Rumsfeld?
    One & the same, desertswine; one & the same. Of course, he fancies himself quite the genius.

    Re: Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame (none / 0) (#6)
    by cpinva on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:40 PM EST
    not on topic, but i feel compelled to ask: does this guy ever not answer a question with a question, ever? JR - these people don't have off the cuff conversations, everything is recorded; on tape, video or paper. notes are taken by flunkies, all their phone calls and e-mails are recorded, automatically. so, yes, in those circumstances, and given the present situation he was being queried about, i'd remember. perhaps, i'd want to forget, but...................

    Re: Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame (none / 0) (#7)
    by cpinva on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:40 PM EST
    charley, are you a total nimrod, or do you just play one on tv? let's review: the kurds were gassed in 1988, during bush I's administration. this would be the same administration that was providing military support for iraq's "pre-emptive" war against iran. a few gassed kurds didn't bother us. what the hell, you can always get more kurds. probably whey too. this was also 15 years before our pre-emptive attack on iraq, predicated not on gassed kurds, but non-existent WMD's. there will be a quiz on friday morning.

    Re: Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame (none / 0) (#8)
    by Al on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:40 PM EST
    That's interesting, though, that Rumsfeld does not deny the possibility that he might have talked to Cheney about Valerie Plame some time in the last five years. If he hadn't talked about her ever, I'm sure he would remember that.

    Re: Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame (none / 0) (#9)
    by Al on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:41 PM EST
    That's interesting, though, that Rumsfeld does not deny the possibility that he might have talked to Cheney about Valerie Plame some time in the last five years. If he hadn't talked about her ever, I'm sure he would remember that.

    Re: Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame (none / 0) (#10)
    by cpinva on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:41 PM EST
    who knows al, you go with the memory you have, not with the one you might want. charley, take a deep breath, and go back to whatever alternate reality you live in. your comments are completely inappropriate, to this, or any other thread. also, i'm beginning to suspect you've been gassed.

    Re: Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame (none / 0) (#11)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:41 PM EST
    I'm glad seeing James kneejerk defending Donnie, who most of America HATES AS THE BASTARD HE IS. Posted by James Robertson: "I have another question too - but let me preface it. If Libby is found guilty on the charges he faces, he deserves punishment." Whoopteedoo. Libby has already gotten his minor punishment -- he resigned. The punishment of his major crimes will have to wait the full indictments for the Plame outing itself. "What punishment should Sandy Berger get for knowingly removing (and destroying/modifying) classified documents from the archives?" Berger's actions aren't comparable on any level. He removed COPIES of files that still exist, so any 'modifying' of those copies affects nothing. That's nothing like Donnie's evasive face-slaps, and nothing like the outing of a spy network for political reasons, and to cover up the capital crime of lying the country into war. If James had any self-respect, he wouldn't be so proud of his efforts to troll every disgusting and vile act of his heroes into a pathetic attempt at relativism. You're aiming low, James. The actual indictments that are coming are going to BLOW YOUR HEAD OFF, not your knees. Get off your knees, young man.

    Re: Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame (none / 0) (#12)
    by roger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:41 PM EST
    This issue has been around for years now. Funny that Rummy never thought about it before.

    Re: Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame (none / 0) (#13)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:41 PM EST
    it's absurd for Rumsfeld to fulminate so. Does anyone really think he wasn't asked long ago internally to review his notes so he could parse an answer to the media if and when it came up?

    Re: Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame (none / 0) (#14)
    by roger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:41 PM EST
    Well, we all know that V. Plame gassed the Kurds!

    Re: Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame (none / 0) (#15)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:41 PM EST
    Gee, charlie, we live in the world where Donnie shook Saddamie's hand after he gassed the Kurds, and while Ronnie was selling chemical and biological weapons to him. And then Georgie the first forced the UN to drop a resolution condemning Saddamie's acts, because it might damage US agriculture interests. *Please make a note of it.*

    Re: Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame (none / 0) (#16)
    by merlallen on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:42 PM EST
    James, if I had committed treason I would remember. So would anyone. Why are you defending traitors?

    Re: Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame (none / 0) (#17)
    by merlallen on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:42 PM EST
    I lived in the world where the US Navy was escorting Iraqi tankers while Saddam was gassing Kurds with gas that we supplied along with maps of where to find them.

    Re: Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame (none / 0) (#18)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:42 PM EST
    We must be neighbors. What's with charley? Not getting enough Troll-o-meal? Not finding the taste of his Troll Pellets as good as Bushie's Best Rabbit Turds, back in the day? He must be off his feed, since Bush polled at THIRTY-FIVE PERCENT. Two-thirds of the country want OFF the Bushie Titanic.

    Re: Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame (none / 0) (#19)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:42 PM EST
    Char-lie Chickenhawk of the 101st keyboard brigade speaks:
    ....with that broken moral compass,....
    hahahahaha, what a fool. All fire and brimstone urging others to their valiant deaths while spitting venom at the left for being against an illegal war.

    Re: Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame (none / 0) (#20)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:43 PM EST
    Posted by charley: "so, under the twisted left logic, if we backed SH as you claim, he gets a free pass for the rest of recorded time?" Well, gee, charlie, I don't believe I saw you on the streets with me in 1988, when we were protesting Reagan/Bush and their support for Hussein. Maybe you had a cold, poor darling.

    Re: Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame (none / 0) (#21)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:44 PM EST
    Posted by charley: "logically, then, PIL, you should be in favor of the current actions taken against the SH regime since it makes up for the past sins we committed.

    Re: Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame (none / 0) (#22)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:44 PM EST
    Posted by charley: "logically, then, PIL, you should be in favor of the current actions taken against the SH regime since it makes up for the past sins we committed." It doesn't take murdering 130,000 civilians to catch one DISARMED dictator. Nor does it take 10,000 US soldiers with their lives ended or destroyed. Logically, charlie, you are a troll, willing to IGNORE the fact that your latter day hatred of Hussein is in DIRECT contrast to your support for Hussein under Bush-Reagan policies, with EXACTLY the same sort of ugly and illogical ranting. Just a different part of the same liar movie you're watching.

    Rumsfeld on Valerie Plame | 22 comments (22 topical)