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Education Student Complains About Diversity Training

by TChris

A public university cannot train teachers to teach only white Christian kids. Teachers must be equipped to teach a diverse student population. A university might therefore legitimately be troubled when a student in its education program insists that “diversity is perversity.”

Ed Swan thinks the College of Education at Washington State is discriminating against him because of his political views. Swan was told to complete diversity training if he wanted to remain in the program. If he is correct that WSU is trying to force him to change his fundamental beliefs about abortion or gay marriage, he has a valid gripe. But WSU has a legitimate interest in producing teachers who do not favor students of a particular race or background, and diversity training is a reasonable vehicle for achieving that goal.

"We want prospective teachers to realize they are going to be teaching all children," said Judy Mitchell, dean of education. "We want to make sure a teacher appreciates and values human diversity and others' varied talents and perspectives."

WSU’s educators evaluate their students as potential teachers using a variety of criteria, including whether the student “exhibits an understanding of the complexities of race, power, gender, class, sexual orientation and privilege in American society.” Surely the ability to understand and work fairly and equally with kids from all walks of life is a legitimate skill for the College of Education to develop in its students.

WSU evaluated Swan four times and he failed, on that issue, four times. Whether his failure was unfair is a question that would require close examination of facts presented by Swan and by the faculty members who evaluated him. But Swan’s supporters want to turn his predicament into another attack on political correctness. Diversity training, they maintain, is nothing more than a reeducation camp, designed to transform conservatives into liberals. Ah, if only it were so easy (sarcasm in italics).

Again, Swan and his helpers would have a point if diversity training attempted to persuade Swan to change his opinion about abortion or gay marriage. But training Swan to treat gay students, or Muslim students, or nonwhite students, with the same openness and respect that he would give to a white male Christian student, isn’t thought control. It’s behavioral control, and schools have a right to control the behavior of their employees by assuring that teachers do not violate anti-discrimination laws or policies. Schools are also entitled to teachers who teach every student effectively.

Did the university go too far by asking Swan “to sign an agreement to respect community norms and appreciate diversity”? What Swan “appreciates” is solely in Swan’s head and therefore gives rise to a legitimate claim of thought control. That’s presumably why the university withdrew the proposed agreement. (Asking him to respect community norms, on the other hand, is unobjectionable, at least if interpreted as seeking agreement that he will treat each of his students with respect, even if they aren’t mini-me versions of Swan.)

In any event, Swan completed the training (which he grumblingly characterizes as a “grilling”) and is off to the real world, presumably with no significant violence done to his conservative beliefs.

After finishing classes this month, he will spend 3 1/2 months student-teaching in Othello, which is overwhelmingly Hispanic.

The experience should be good for him.

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  • Re: Education Student Complains About Diversity Tr (none / 0) (#1)
    by scarshapedstar on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:01 PM EST
    Diversity training consists of two key lessons: a) Don't be a jerk. b) Don't be a moron. I really don't know what to say about someone who finds those concepts difficult and/or offensive.

    The third lesson is: You're ignorant of what you are ignorant. The fourth lesson is: Suffer the children does not mean make the children suffer.

    Re: Education Student Complains About Diversity Tr (none / 0) (#3)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:02 PM EST
    from the article:
    This week, the National Association of Scholars demanded that the federal government look into the criteria the council uses to accredit education schools, on the grounds they may be violating free speech rights

    The association, based in Princeton, N.J., claims 4,000 professors, graduate students and administrators as members.
    Here is the board of directors for the Nat'l Ass of Scholars: John H. Bunzel, Hoover Institution Edwin J. Delattre, American Enterprise Institute Chester E. Finn, Fordham Foundation Gertrude Himmelfarb, Independent Women’s Forum Paul Hollander, National Review, Front Page Magazine Harry V. Jaffa, Claremont Institute Donald Kagan, Project for the New American Century Jeane J. Kirkpatrick, UN Ambassador under President Reagan, American Enterprise Institute Irving Kristol, American Enterprise Institute Richard D. Lamm, American Reform Party Leslie Lenkowsky, National Review Seymour Martin Lipset, Hoover Institution Christina Hoff Sommers, Independent Women’s Forum Shelby Steele, Hoover Institution, Manhattan Institute Stephan Thernstrom, Manhattan Institute James Q. Wilson, Manhattan Institute Notice not one teacher or administrator is on it. And while they claim 4000 profs, post grads and admins are members, none of them appear to be willing to be listed on the website.

    Re: Education Student Complains About Diversity Tr (none / 0) (#4)
    by roy on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:02 PM EST
    In related news, Bush's DOJ is either attacking or defending equal opportunity at Southern Illinois University, depending on your perspective.

    Re: Education Student Complains About Diversity Tr (none / 0) (#5)
    by BigTex on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:02 PM EST
    Asking him to respect community norms, on the other hand, is unobjectionable
    This is probabally the most objectionable aspect of the whole situation. In a college town in a liberal state, there is a high likelyhood that the community standard that abortion is okay... I know you have taken care to point out that you would not agree with him being forced to change his views on the subject, but that is a high likelyhood of what the agreement would entail at least as an indirect consiquence. Also, howw is forcing someone to go through what they see as indroctination (sp?) a good thing? From what was in the post, it sounds like both sides had their minds already closed. You can take a horse to water, but can't force it to drink. How is forcing the horse's head under water good for the horse? The argument that new experiances are inherently good doesn't withstand logical scrutiny. For example, I had a black peopls shout black power at me (and any other white person who walked by) in Mississippi. That was a new experiance, though it did not make me a better person, or was a good experiance in any manner. A teacher needs to be able to teach students from all walks of life, no argument here. However, the university went about it's policy in a problamatic manner. Often times diversity training is used as a tool for disclipline, and as a consiquence the way the university is going about diversity training gives the impression of corrective (as in the disclipline or failure) action, not as a proactive measure. This is not entirley the university's fault. They are likely trying to limit the extra work load on the students by only requiring students who they feel are in need of training to go to the training. But in this day of PC run amok, any action in this vein will be seen as punishment... espically when it comes as a judgement call from a position of power... espically in a college town in a liberal state which has a lower level of tolerance for things in the PC grey area than ~85% of the rest of the country (spaitally.) Since this is an important measure according to the university, they should have it as policy that all students in the program go through diversity training. Doing so would meet the university's goal of getting those who need training the needed training, and take away the judgmental, punishment aspect of the training.

    Re: Education Student Complains About Diversity Tr (none / 0) (#6)
    by BigTex on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:02 PM EST
    should read person, not peopls above.

    Re: Education Student Complains About Diversity Tr (none / 0) (#7)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:02 PM EST
    Uhhh, roy, try staying on topic - We are talking about a white supremecist who is suing his college because they they think teachers shouldn't be prejudiced against students they will teach.

    Despite the simplemindedness of the first post above, can anyone define for me what "diversity training" IS, exactly? My understanding is that it consists of sessions in which values are downgraded to Leftist norms, under which viewpoints that diverge from Leftist orthodoxy are defined as "intolerant" and unacceptable. The idea that professors need to be held to any standard other than one of proficiency in their field of study, and the ability to convey that information in a uniform and accurate manner, is an idea that smacks of mind control and propaganda. Diversity training infractions uniformly consist of professors voicing ideas that the Left finds intolerable, for example, a single standard of social conduct applied equally to all is denigrated as insensitive to the backgrounds of minority groups. Even the definition of minority groups is arbitrary and reserved for groups that support Leftist victimology. Therefore blacks and hispanics are minorities, Jews who support Israel and conservative Cuban Americans are not. "Diversity" has in fact come to mean a diversity of racial composition, but a uniformity of thinking. It is most asuredly NOT a diversity of ideas, because conservative thought is consistently defined as "repressive" and "intolerant". Only Leftist ideas are protected. Therefore, holding a campus demonstration calling for the destruction of Israel is called "free speech", but holding a campus rally calling for the end to support for Palestinian terror organizations is called "hate speech".

    Re: Education Student Complains About Diversity Tr (none / 0) (#9)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:02 PM EST
    My understanding is that it consists of sessions in which values are downgraded to Leftist norms
    I'll reply in kind; My understanding is that it is necessary because rightist norms need to be UPGRADED to where they understand that other views, races and religions have as legitimate claim on humanity as they do.

    Clearly Robert hasn't had his Diversity Reeducation Camp time yet. Nor is he breaking a leg to avoid LYING. "Jews who support Israel and conservative Cuban Americans are not." "Jews who support Israel" he means rightwing, racist Zionists. • Most Jews and most Americans support Israel. That doesn't mean that we support rightwing racism, and a small country like Israel having nuclear arms. Israel should be disarmed -- that's not not supporting Israel -- it's enabling some form of peace in the ME. "Conservative Cuban Americans" he means rightwing supporters of TERRORISTS like Posada Carriles, who blew up a Cuban civilian airliner, and who is being harbored illegally by arch warcriminal GWB. Diversity does not include racists and terrorists. *Please make a note of it.*

    Robert Kessler:
    The idea that professors need to be held to any standard other than one of proficiency in their field of study, and the ability to convey that information in a uniform and accurate manner, is an idea that smacks of mind control and propaganda.
    This is not only red herring, the problem you note above is exactly the one that diversity training is trying to avoid. The discussion here is about the need for student teachers -- who want to be certified to teach kids -- to pass a course to show they, as teachers, will be unbiased and have "the ability to convey ... information in a uniform and accurate manner" to all the kids in their classes, regardless of the diverse backgrounds of those kids. Hope this helps you to see that you have got the problem backwards.

    Re: Education Student Complains About Diversity Tr (none / 0) (#12)
    by cpinva on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:03 PM EST
    poor, poor ed swan, another wannabe "victim" of "pc". oh puhleaazzzze! spare me the weeping and wailing. if the fact that he might (god forbid!) have to teach children not all male & lilly white, bothers mr. swan that much, i have a suggestion for him: don't. see, wasn't that easy? problem solved. he can go live in his cave now. what it boils down to is that mr. swan doesn't want to meet the minimum standards, set by the school, to be degreed in his field. too f'ing bad. guess what? i didn't want to take "cost accounting". that was fine by the university, except they wouldn't award me a degree without it. i took the damn class! somehow, i survived, in spite of it. no one asked me to change my feelings about it, just that i take the class. if mr. swan finds this so damaging to his sensitive psyche, then he needs to go elsewhere, he isn't being forced to stay. welcome to the real world kid. by the way, i wish they'd put a camera in his new job, my guess is that we'd all find it highly entertaining.

    As Paul in LA reveals, To those of the Left, having conservative views makes one a de facto racist right winger. Or, what is more revealing, he ascribes to anyone who supports Israel, for example, narrow, predefined intent to be racist and rightwing (assuming that for Paul, "rightwing" means de facto racist etc. etc.) Either way, Paul reveals the prejudice and bias exhibitd by many who support the ephemeral concepts of diversity and it's colateral re-eduation camps. As to Mr. Swan in particular, let's be clear. He was never found to have acted in a racist or prejudiced manner toward ANYONE. He was put into a re-education class because of his VIEWS. He did not express any views that were racist; that is a fabrication of the bloggers on this site. He did not express any personal views as a teacher. He expressed, AS A STUDENT, ideas that his professors disagreed with, because they did not fit their Leftist agenda. So Swan was "intercepted", lest he pass on those views as a teacher. His university evaluation "asks professors to evaluate whether a student exhibits an understanding of the complexities of race, power, gender, class, sexual orientation and privilege in American society." This quote is a neat encapsulation of the Leftist/Progressive agenda. In other words, Martin Luther King Jr's dream of being judged on the content of his character has been trampled and replaced with an agenda of judgement based on race, class, gender and sexual orientation, disguised as social justice, but in reality a methodolgy of assigning victim classifications to chosen groups who then will be "liberated" by special priveledge, while punishing the "oppressor classes", i.e. white males, whether they be "rich dead slave owners like George Washington", or "children of white priveledge like George Bush". Therefore, Michael Moore's artful political propaganda can be shown in classrooms by French Lit professors with impunity, Rigoberta Menchu's phony Leftist biography can be taught as history, and Noam Chomsky's demented ravings are showered with accolades. It is not that Mr. Swan doesn't want to meet the minimum standards of teaching credentials, it is that he doesn't meet the minimum criteria of politically allowed thought. Is it any wonder that 90% of the University professors in this country are Leftists, and that racist organizations like MECHA and the International Solidarity Movement for Palestine that trains students to aid palestinian terrorists thrive on the American campus while campus Republican groups are denied funds and facilities?

    Rober Kessler...how do you go from this: His university evaluation "asks professors to evaluate whether a student exhibits an understanding of the complexities of race, power, gender, class, sexual orientation and privilege in American society." To this: In other words, Martin Luther King Jr's dream of being judged on the content of his character has been trampled and replaced with an agenda of judgement based on race, class, gender and sexual orientation, disguised as social justice, but in reality a methodolgy of assigning victim classifications... ? How is understanding complexities racist? Are you saying that this white kid is too much of a simpleton to understand? Are all white people that dumb? That is a racist supposition, no?

    Re: Education Student Complains About Diversity Tr (none / 0) (#15)
    by skeptic on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:03 PM EST
    Robert: if you're going to pose as defender of the banner flown by Martin Luther King, you might want to read more than the "I Have a Dream" speech. There's plenty of stuff in his works about addressing the lingering damage suffered by various groups as a result of social and economic injustice, so cut out the crap with the "victim classifications" meme. It distorts MLK's thinking, and it makes you look foolish. Sailor: this is a nit, but plenty of the folks listed on the National Association of Scholars website are both teachers and administrators. Examples: Edwin Delattre (former President of St. John's and now at BU), Gertrude Himmelfarb, (emeritus in History at CUNY), Donald Kagan (History and Classics at Yale), and Seymour Lipset (Public Policy at George Mason). The fact that the members are mostly listed with their think tank associations doesn't mean they're not educators, too. (It's interesting to note how well Hoover and AEI are represented. I wonder why they don't list anyone from Brookings....) DG

    Re: Education Student Complains About Diversity Tr (none / 0) (#16)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:03 PM EST
    skeptic, good point. I think it is telling that they used their radical rw associations rather than their educational associations. Also note that PNAC is represented; they advocate taking over the middle east by force, hardly what I call an enlightened or tolerant group.
    “diversity is perversity.”
    That right there is reason to require diversity training, tho I doubt it'll do any good.

    "It is most asuredly NOT a diversity of ideas, because conservative thought is consistently defined as "repressive" and "intolerant".
    Um..maybe because it is. Perhaps tolerance is only something that should be afforded the tolerant. Even if you don't subscribe to that idea, Conservatism is repressive. You cannot -- without devaluing them -- believe that your "God" will forever condemn to eternal suffering entire nations and cultures that have world views different from your own. Jim Crow wasn't oppresive? Forcing a Muslim kid to not attend school, stand silent, or participate while the teacher leads the rest of the class in Christian prayer isn't social discrimination? Being a proponent of making illegal for all citizens a practice that doesn't fit your religious doctrine doesn't represent an exclusive ideology? Apparently the lot of you are on the West Coast, because the exact reverse of this story is the norm -- Throughout my lifetime in the Southeast, faculty and staff of every level in public, private, and higher education haven't felt (or cared about) any threat of reprisal for their racist, bigoted views. Minorities slandered, women berated, abortion ridiculed, evolution denounced, poverty marginalized, etc, etc. All the time -- not some of the time. A liberal educator is anomoly, not the norm. That is in my experience -- in two decades across 5 Southeastern States. What TChris writes about on this thread is a foreign idea for me. I've never once heard of Conservative educators (or would be educators) being measured for intolerance. Not once. So perhaps out on the West Coast the wording should be revised to ensure that being tolerant of local norms doesn't apply when the local norms are inherently intolerant.

    Re: Education Student Complains About Diversity Tr (none / 0) (#18)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:04 PM EST
    TS writes:
    Um..maybe because it is. Perhaps tolerance is only something that should be afforded the tolerant
    . Hmmm. I always thought the Left claimed that the more outrageous the comment, the more it deserved protection. But wait! It is outrageous comments by the Left, not the general population you defend. BTW - check this out to see how routinely Left wing bias has become.

    Re: Education Student Complains About Diversity Tr (none / 0) (#19)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:04 PM EST
    So a peron who hates jews, blacks and muslims should be given a license to spread his hate in public schools, and denying him the right to do so shows 'lefties' are intolerant! Ha Ha [/muntz]
    Hmmm. I always thought the Left claimed that the more outrageous the comment, the more it deserved protection.
    Whaaaaa!?

    Re: Education Student Complains About Diversity Tr (none / 0) (#20)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:04 PM EST
    ppj-Is this what you prefer to McCarthy's methods. Your link is not very 'social liberal' although it is gussied up so that its rhetoric hides its opposite agenda to make the classroom free of unpleasant ideas.
    Now, they're offering a solution: an "academic bill of rights," penned by conservative activist David Horowitz, one version of which has already been introduced to the US House of Representatives. Another may come soon before the Colorado legislature. It's a bill that critics say would destroy academic freedom - even as proponents insist it is needed to salvage it.
    A teacher's job is to get students to think. Your agenda of sanitizing the classrom is revealing as it reflects your behavior. Obvioulsy you believe that education is an indoctrination that brainwashes fragile minds judging by your own echo chamber mentality. Controversy is good as is debate. AIPAC has been involved in your linked pet program to sanitize the classroom. They would like to have legislation requiring that anyone critizing Israel be arrested for unamerican activities at most and ruined at least. link

    Posted by Robert: "To those of the Left, having conservative views makes one a de facto racist right winger." Conservative views? What do you conserve? Criminality? You ARE a right winger, but unlike you I am not a leftist. I am a Democrat. See if you can figure out what the difference is. "Or, what is more revealing, he ascribes to anyone who supports Israel, for example, narrow, predefined intent to be racist and rightwing (assuming that for Paul, "rightwing" means de facto racist etc. etc.)" And you're a LIAR, Robert. He's the quote from what I wrote: "Most Jews and most Americans support Israel. That doesn't mean that we support rightwing racism, and a small country like Israel having nuclear arms." Like most Americans, I support Israel. I grew up with Jews all around me, like their culture, enjoy their foibles, and have celebrated more Bar Mitzvahs than you could probably imagine. So go SHOVE you lies, right up your lie hole. "Either way, Paul reveals the prejudice and bias exhibitd by many who support the ephemeral concepts of diversity and it's colateral re-eduation camps." Reeducation camps? That's HILARIOUS. You must really be desperate to make your worldview work out for you. You support a bloody dictator mass-murderer who is harboring a Venezuelan TERRORIST. Try to keep that in mind.

    I always thought the Left claimed that the more outrageous the comment, the more it deserved protection.
    The difference between the right and myself, PPJ, is that I wouldn't make illegal Conservative speech. I would be satisfied if the status quo were reversed -- so that the mainstream would demonize, ridicule, and economically cripple anyone who held racist and bigoted views. Quite a different America than today's, where the President of The United States is a religious bigot, marginally racist, marginally sexist, militarist, with totalitarian tendencies. The only way that could happen would be if the majority of the economic upper eschelon of Americans (the one's who decide everything for our society in the current stacked sort-of-ocracy that Democrats like Paul defend) could be convinced that "God" isn't an old bearded white man who is going to sentence all Non-American and Non-Western Europeans to burn forever in a pit of hellfire ipso facto that White American culture isn't inherently "better" or more deserving of wealth and rule than any other.

    Re: Education Student Complains About Diversity Tr (none / 0) (#23)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:04 PM EST
    Sailor - That's right. Freedom of speech. You know. Constitution, Bill of Rights and all that stuff. And why, tell me, should a "license" be required to teach? Because it is the "key" used to make someone agree with someone? Now, does he have a right to teach? No. But that should be handled at the local level. Just don't hire him. What's the matter? Afraid you'll get a Rightie versuon of Ward Churchill? And didn't you defend Churchill? Squeak writes:
    ppj-Is this what you prefer to McCarthy's methods
    I stated very clearly that I believed in investigate/charge/indict/try. Why do you attempt to leave a false impression by asking a question you already have the answer to? That is dishonest. A tacher's job? Depends on the age of the students, their background and what is desired. First you must teach the basics. Then you can worry about lounging under a tree eating grapes preaching about Bush. And whatever made you think a social liberal was supposed to agree that slanted and biased professors shouldn't be exposed? In fact, a social liberal would be outraged at these Left Wing tactics. TS writes:
    The difference between the right and myself, PPJ, is that I wouldn't make illegal Conservative speech.
    Okay, I'll just add your name to the "no freedom of speech" list.

    Re: Education Student Complains About Diversity Tr (none / 0) (#24)
    by roy on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:05 PM EST
    I've been trying to think of an example with the left/right loyalties reversed. How about a Communist, let's call him Bob, trying to get a degree in Business? Bob learns the material and can demonstrate his understanding. But he feels that much of what the program advocates is wrong. He writes "capitalism is exploitive" in his notebook. He non-disruptively argues that workers should own the means of production(*). His professors believe workers should be paid a wage, substantially less than the revenue they create, so a company can profit. His professors feel that Bob's beliefs make him incapable of doing the work in which a degree implies competence. I think this scenario is a reasonable mirror. Any dissimilarity is not an attempt to trick you and can be pointed out without name-calling. Should Bob get his degree? If you answer for Bob is different than for Ed Swan, why? (*)I admit to not knowing exactly what this phrase means, I stole it from Sailor in the McCarthy thread.

    Re: Education Student Complains About Diversity Tr (none / 0) (#25)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:05 PM EST
    roy-
    His professors feel that Bob's beliefs make him incapable of doing the work in which a degree implies competence .
    Beliefs are not measurable. Exams and discussion showing competency of required material are the measure used to earn a degree. If 'Bob' meets the requirements he must be granted a degree, what he believes is irrelevant. The same holds true for Ed Swan. A better analogy would be a sociology or philosophy major that rejects the writings of Karl Marx, or Leo Strauss, and refuses to do any of the reading and boycotts the discussion because s/he thinks it is brainwashing. Well this 'Bob' would need to switch majors to something like Home economy or Phys ed if he wants to graduate. Perhaps Ed should do the same.

    roy: "He non-disruptively argues that workers should own the means of production(*)" Similar to saying that military commanders, including the civilian ones, should FIGHT wars themselves, put their lives on the line, not just schedule them for trapped others. When businesses are owned by distant plutocrats, there is no justice for the workers. Therefore workers should 'own' the factory, so they can resolve their issues directly, since plutocrats (and traitors) couldn't care less whether they have body-armor or a for-profit (i.e., the profit of distant plutocrats) mission.

    Why is it that with such a diversity of educators, there seems to be so little diversity of ideology among them?

    Because, suo, the Enlightenment and the rise of American democracy and the flowering of modern science have created an ENORMOUS continuity of view about the facts of life. One of those facts is that diversity cannot exist while racism is allowed to thrive. To call such an intolerance of intolerance 'intolerance' is not a new tactic. It is not intolerant to not allow intolerance.

    Re: Education Student Complains About Diversity Tr (none / 0) (#29)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:07 PM EST
    Why is it that with such a diversity of educators, there seems to be so little diversity of ideology among them?
    Assumes facts not in evidence. How would you know what diverse and divers beliefs 'eduators' hold?

    Of course, of course, a rhetorical question I suppose. My comment was based mostly on the 'educators' I've been exposed to...

    Re: Education Student Complains About Diversity Tr (none / 0) (#31)
    by roy on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:07 PM EST
    Sailor,
    Assumes facts not in evidence. How would you know what diverse and divers beliefs 'eduators' hold?
    When your opponents ask for evidence, they get insults. You get links. I haven't read these in detail, but they look at least as reliable as the Bush approval polls TL publicizes. Surveys say colleges are overwhelmingly...
    1. Democrat
    2. Democrat(PDF)
    3. Democrat or liberal(PDF)
    4. Democrat
    5. Democrat(PDF)


    Thanks roy, I didn't have the energy...

    Funny, while reading blogs from both sides of the political isle, it’s always the liberals that resort to lying, cursing, or propagating ad hominem attacks. I see no apples-to-apples analogies and very few facts on this blog/gossip column. Note: a couple posters did get it right. Fact: Ed Swan is set to graduate summa cum laude Fact: Ed Swan was evaluated over 25 times on his disposition, failing (wrongfully) only four times Fact: He never made any threats or disruptions in class Fact: He has sailed through numerous practicums receiving rave reviews Fact: He has never preached to students in a classroom Fact: He has never made any white supremacist remarks Fact: He has four bi-racial children Fact: He lives in a community that is 75% Hispanic Fact: His friends are mostly minorities Fact: He is not a Bush sycophant Fact: He has raised four children who are neither racist nor bigots Fact: He only commented on his political views when asked… Fact: And, when he commented, he did so respectfully Fact: Diversity is perversity was written in a paper (not a textbook) Fact: Further, it referred to cultural diversity, not ethnic or racial Fact: He was told, as a future teacher, he could not wear his MichaelSavage.com T-shirt to a grocery store Fact: From his philosophy statement, he was told to remove the fact that he is a Christian Fact: He was scoffed at when he challenged the pseudo-fact that white and male privilege still exist Fact: The College of Education dean told a reporter that perhaps Antonin Scalia could not pass these same character evaluations that Ed Swan was asked to pass Fact: Ed sat in class for untold hours listening (mostly silently) to tales of how whites are responsible for the failures of every other race Fact: He sat in class, silently, while a guest speaker said that to report illegal immigrants is “un-American”… and “that’s not what America’s about” Fact: He sat in class and listened while homosexuals, atheists, feminists, and others (sometimes-deviants) were heralded as saviors of the new world Fact: He was scolded for having a conservative role model for an art project, as opposed to suggestions by the professor of personalities like Michael Moore and other left-wingers. Fact: Most classes only addressed how to educate minority students…white students are secondary Fact: Embracing social justice is necessary to pass the teacher education program Fact: Ed is a Nationalist, Traditionalist, and Conservative; nowhere is mention of White Supremacy Fact is, a vast percentage of university professors are liberal-progressive; so, in a effort to perpetuate the mindset that seeks to erode the values that has elevated this great Nation to the status it enjoys, these same professors claim conservative students can’t teach liberals, blacks, Jews, etc.. Our Country was founded on Judeo-Christian values; all that Ed Swan did was to embrace these values, when asked, in a university classroom—a place that should be a marketplace of ideas, not to mention the trivial aspect of free speech. Of course, anyone who attends WSU knows that free speech only applies if it is of the liberal persuasion. Case and point: WSU professors call for the burning of the Constitution http://www.dailyevergreen.com/disp_story.php?storyId=15108 Columbus Day is replaced by Killumbus T-shirts http://www.dailyevergreen.com/disp_story.php?storyId=14764 Or nearly as ridiculous editorials http://www.dailyevergreen.com/disp_story.php?storyId=14831# The list goes on. Before you crucify, get the facts. http://www.thefire.org/index.php/case/686.html Our program consisted of block classes and I attended many of these classes with Ed…and we often disagreed; however, he would always place himself in your shoes to better see your point. He would do anything for anyone. He has done nothing improper or immoral, but demonstrates the knowledge necessary to teach children in an elementary setting…all kids, respective of race, sex, creed, or color….as an outspoken liberal classmate, I remain on his side. His case epitomizes ideas disseminated by Huxley and Orwell…

    Re: Education Student Complains About Diversity Tr (none / 0) (#34)
    by roy on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:07 PM EST
    Funny, while reading blogs from both sides of the political isle, it’s always the liberals that resort to lying, cursing, or propagating ad hominem attacks.
    As a non-liberal, I call BS on that. Heck, I've done at least two of the three in TL posts so far this week.

    Re: Education Student Complains About Diversity Tr (none / 0) (#35)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:07 PM EST
    ec-What planet are you from?
    Fact: He sat in class and listened while homosexuals, atheists, feminists, and others (sometimes-deviants) were heralded as saviors of the new world


    ec-What planet are you from?
    See what I mean? I’m simply regurgitating the salvo spewed by the socialist professors and textbooks. And, for this, I’m referred to as an alien from another planet. Hmmm…I’m not enamored by that of deviants (not the norm); I believe everyone’s opinion is worthy of consideration in a respectful, descent manner. Further, only two posts since my ad hominem relationship to liberals….Gosh, I hate being right all the time. Better get some oil on that squeaky wheel.

    As a non-liberal, I call BS on that. Heck, I've done at least two of the three in TL posts so far this week.
    Roy, I can relate….if anything comes close to making me curse or lie, it would be this forum.