Report: Voice Expert ID's Ted Haggard's Voice

By Jeralyn, Section Other Politics
Posted on Fri Nov 03, 2006 at 03:45:00 AM EST
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Update: Church says Haggard confessed to some, but not all, of the allegations against him. My speculation: He confessed to buying meth from Jones.

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Denver's 9 News tonight reports a voice expert has analyzed paid escort Mike Jones' voicemail evidence against Ted Haggard and concluded the voice is Haggard's.

Jones turned over two voicemails to the station which had them analyzed by Richard Sanders, who it says is an expert voice analyst.

The first voice message, left on August 4 at 2:18 p.m., says:

"Hi Mike, this is Art. Hey, I was just calling to see if we could get any more. Either $100 or $200 supply. And I could pick it up really anytime I could get it tomorrow or we could wait till next week sometime and so I also wanted to get your address. I could send you some money for inventory but that's probably not working, so if you have it then go ahead and get what you can and I may buzz up there later today, but I doubt your schedule would allow that unless you have some in the house. Okay, I'll check in with you later. Thanks a lot, bye."

The second voice message, left on August 4 at 5:10 p.m., says:

"Hi Mike, this is Art, I am here in Denver and sorry that I missed you. But as I said, if you want to go ahead and get the stuff, then that would be great. And I'll get it sometime next week or the week after or whenever. I will call though you early next week to see what's most convenient for you. Okay? Thanks a lot, bye."

Here's the video of the newscast. Jones claims Art is referring to methamphetamine in the messages. The station reports that Haggert's middle name is Arthur.

Here's the video of Haggard's 10 minute interview with the station in which he denies the allegations. He seems downright friendly about it and quite willing for the Church's investigation to take over.

He also says that while he supports the gay marriage amendment, he has not opposed the civil union referendum on the Colorado ballot, believing that's a societal matter. He says he has always supported civil rights. He does believe, however, that G-d's preferred plan for men and women is heterosexuality.

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Another Demon In Deacon's Clothes (5.00 / 1) (#1)
by Daniel DiRito on Fri Nov 03, 2006 at 12:15:53 AM EST

I've long argued that most forms of extremism harkens back to one's own psychological issues. I'm reminded of the psychological theory that suggests that the psyche is similar to a tube of toothpaste. The gist of the argument is that a tube of toothpaste works well when the cap is removed and pressure is applied in order to push the paste from the container. However, if the cap is placed on the tube and the same pressure is applied, toothpaste will eventually ooze out from numerous newly created and unintended openings. The psyche functions similarly in that if we allow our identity to flow naturally and resist the societal pressure to "cap it" we function normally...but if we attempt to hide our identity...meaning to "cap it" in order to keep it hidden (whether that be from shame, fear, or some other factor)...it will escape and manifest itself in numerous dysfunctional behaviors.

If Jesus was to be our example, then I don't understand this thing we now call Christian values. Pastor Haggard may believe that he speaks for God but his actions suggest that he merely fears his own humanity. Further, if the values he espouses exist to demonstrate his faith in the God he knows, then the God he knows must have already seen this element of his humanity that he cannot personally accept...which would mean that any true God has already accepted that which we humans won't and would also prove that the God Haggard purports to represent is not a real God but a God of his own creation designed to serve his flawed view of the human condition.

Read more here:

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I, for one, have had it. . . (none / 0) (#2)
by PoliticalTruthWatch on Fri Nov 03, 2006 at 01:16:26 AM EST

THIS is what this bunch is all about. . .as a wise old sage once said, "The fish rots from the top down". . .take notice, Bush. . .everything changes on Tuesday.

: Seriously, think about this. . . (none / 0) (#3)
by PoliticalTruthWatch on Fri Nov 03, 2006 at 01:21:11 AM EST

THESE are the idiots who are the "advisers" to Bush. . .no WONDER he's so screwed up. . .Watch out, Laura!

He as much as admitted it was true (none / 0) (#4)
by jwh186 on Fri Nov 03, 2006 at 01:31:31 AM EST

At the end of the interview, outside his home, he pretty much confesses. The last thing he says is that this board that oversees him is going to meet with the accuser and "if they find him credible, or believe him we'll just have to process that." He obviously is assuming the guy has some evidence or something that even makes it plausible that he could be credible. So clearly he already knows it's true and now it's just a question of waiting to see if the board believes it, that's what it will come down to. If he was innocent wouldn't he be confident there wasn't any evidence or story that could be convincing. There would be no question of the guy's credibility if there really wasn't any truth to what he was saying.

Richard Sanders (none / 0) (#5)
by Domino on Fri Nov 03, 2006 at 02:14:35 AM EST

"Expert voice analyst" Richard Sanders played Les Nessman on WKRP. Or could there be more than one Richard Sanders?

Golly, which sends you to hell quicker in Haggard's religion, gay sex or drug use?

Hypocrisy Rules (none / 0) (#6)
by JSN on Fri Nov 03, 2006 at 07:13:36 AM EST

This is proof by demonstration that it is easier to create a hypocrisy than a democracy.

Dealing? (none / 0) (#7)
by RAM on Fri Nov 03, 2006 at 07:32:55 AM EST

Oops! Juggling coffee and accidentally hit send.

Anyway, Haggard talks about "supply" and "inventory." Was this guy dealing, not just using? Just asking.

dealing or using (none / 0) (#8)
by scribe on Fri Nov 03, 2006 at 08:54:24 AM EST

Just speculating here, but I wouldn't be surprised if the good reverend wasn't needful of some "product" (spelled "J-o-n-e-s-i-n-g") and was saying the things he said the way he said because he figured this is the way he wouldn't be found out. Kinda like mob guys talking about how many shirts they had cleaned or similar code.

Then again, one is compelled to wonder exactly what "product" he was referring to.

I'm just waiting for the good reverend to come out with the "I continued the relationship with this poor sinner because he needed help and I was called by G-d to help him rid himself of this sinful lifestyle...."

You know, the pastoral approach.


: Either way (none / 0) (#9)
by nolo on Fri Nov 03, 2006 at 09:58:07 AM EST

You know he's going to rehab.