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"Turn Your Clocks Back" Sunday Open Thread

I've decided to spend my extra hour driving to the mountains. If I don't turn my clocks back till I get there, I'll make it to Aspen in 2 1/2 hours instead of 3 1/2. Pretty cool.

What are you doing with your extra hour?

Here's an open thread to discuss what's in the news, on the blogs or on your mind.

Question: How can bloggers support the writers' strike? If federal mediation attempts fail today, it starts tomorrow. 300 strike captains are ready to go. Why? It's the money.

Guild members are being asked to sign up for a shift beginning at 9 a.m. or 1 p.m. and will be given signs, chants and red T-shirts emblazoned with "United We Stand" when they arrive on site, captains said. Each member is expected to picket four hours every day. Of the guild's 12,000 members, about 8,000 are in WGA West, with the remainder in WGA East, which plans to picket in New York.

Many of the members will picket outside the studios in which the shows they were working on are made, while others will be assigned to locations based on where they live.

The Writers Guild of America (West) site is here.

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    Good, (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by jondee on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 10:44:18 AM EST
    If true.

    Now you if all you true believers could only marshall your miraculous healing powers and resurrect the tens-of-thousands dead and maimed incurred in the fall-out from the invasion/occupation, you might justifiably have reason to hold your heads up and possibly even speak.

    Pakistan, the Nightmare Begins (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Aaron on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 11:23:58 PM EST
    So General Musharraf has once again resorted to the tactics which brought him to power, violence.  The man came to power through coup, and now he intends to hold onto the power with military force, suspending the Constitution, elections and restaffing the Pakistani Supreme Court with judges he has handpicked.

    This is an extremely bad situation, not only for the Bush administration, but for US interests in the region.  Now we are the position of supporting not just the dictator, but I dictator who has resorted to fascistic tactics in order to maintain himself in power.  Of course this was always the case with Musharraf, but our government has chosen to overlook what was obvious to the people of Pakistan.  This man is only interested in a farce of democracy, where actual military power and political control remains in his hands.

    He is our new Saddam Hussein, and with his military in control of nuclear weapons, we can't afford to undercut him or do anything to further destabilize his regime, otherwise we risk anarchy, revolution and a Civil War that could quite possibly put control of nuclear weapons in the hands of an Islamic fundamentalists led government.  In that scenario Pakistan could go from being an ally to an enemy overnight.  We could find ourselves putting nuclear weapons in Afghanistan and creating a small scale Cold War in the region.  Not a very appealing scenario.

    In supporting a dictator and helping to suppress democracy, the United States of America under the Bush administration may very well create exactly what we had tried to avoid.  A rogue nation that could give Al Qaeda access to nuclear weapons.

    If Musharraf requests military assistance from the United States to prevent his overthrow, will the Bush administration help him?  I have little doubt that they will, since most any US administration would eventually decide that the political cost of assistance are outweighed by the imminent military threat of an out-of-control Pakistan.

    The collapse of Pakistan could lead to a series of events in the Middle East that will prevent any kind of US pullout, any time in the near future.  Instead of getting out of Iraq, we may wind up sending many more troops to Iraq and Afghanistan, as a direct result of this development.

    What's happening in Pakistan has been part of Al Qaeda's plan all along, a plan that was meant to pull us into the Middle East and trap us there.

    Say thank you to the Bush administration for helping to move Osama bin Laden's plans one step further towards fruition.

    By the time George leaves office, the problems of the Middle East may no longer be manageable.  This is why, in a nuclear age, we can't afford to have imbeciles in the White House.

    At this point I suppose we'll have to count ourselves thankful if George W. Bush doesn't follow in the footsteps of Musharraf, a likelihood that may actually enter the realm of possibility, should the US suffer a major attack over the next year.

    Musharraf Consolidates His Control With Arrests

    Musharraf Leaves White House in Lurch

    more... (1.00 / 0) (#11)
    by Edger on Mon Nov 05, 2007 at 05:00:55 AM EST
    Pakistan declares war on democracy (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by jmt on Mon Nov 05, 2007 at 11:19:01 AM EST
    Our good friend and classmate from the Santa Clara University School of Law, class of 1974, Muneer Malik, has been arrested and sits in an Islamabad jail cell in the wake of General Musharraf's coup d'etat for no reason other than the fact that he is the immediate past president of Pakistan's Supreme Court Bar Association, was one of the attorneys for now deposed Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry, who successfully opposed General Musharraf's last effort to oust him from the bench, and is an articulate defender of democracy in Pakistan.

    The threat of terrorism is a fig leaf behind which Musharraf hides his naked power grab.  The question of whether Musharraf could be elected as president while continuing to hold his position in the Pakistani Army was pending before the Supreme Court, and a ruling was expected shortly.  It is instructive that the "Proclamation of Emergency" imposing martial law was signed not by President Musharraf, but by "General Pervez Musharraf, Chief of Army Staff."

    The Proclamation begins by invoking the threat of "terrorism," but quickly gets to the point, complaining that "some members of the judiciary are working at cross purposes with the executive and legislature in the fight against terrorism and extremism."  The Proclamation further complains that "the humiliating treatment meted out to government officials by some members of the judiciary on a routine basis during court proceedings has demoralized the civil bureaucracy."  General Musharraf then disbanded the courts, and replaced the judiciary with handpicked lackeys who would swear allegiance to him rather than the Pakistani constitution.  Of course, at the conclusion of the Proclamation, General Musharraf puts the constitution "in abeyance."

    After arresting members of the judiciary and the lawyers who defend the judicial branch of government, Musharraf next enacts, without benefit of legislative action, "Press, Newspapers, News Agencies and Books Registration (Amendment) Ordinance, 2007."  This makes it unlawful to publish anything that "defames, brings into ridicule or disrepute the Head of State."

    The trifecta!  Musharraf has disbanded the judiciary, enacted legislation without the bother of a legislature and put the press on notice that it will be arrested if it criticizes him.

    Our administration, which has shown no deference to our judiciary, legislature or press, cannot be counted on to address this outrage.  Our press, our judiciary, our legal community and American citizens generally must demand an end to martial law in Pakistan at every opportunity, and the immediate release of the Pakistani lawyers.


    Things change (1.00 / 1) (#1)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 10:25:26 AM EST
    BAGHDAD (AP) - In a dramatic turnaround, more than 3,000 Iraqi families driven out of their Baghdad neighborhoods have returned to their homes in the past three months as sectarian violence has dropped, the government said Saturday.

    The above is especially for Edger..

    Sure (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by TomStewart on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 01:14:44 PM EST
    People are moving back, now that the people who don't believe as they do have been 'cleansed'.

    Now, can we leave so they can conduct their civil war without us?

    Parent

    Now the fight if over the vacated (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by oculus on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 01:22:34 PM EST
    houses.  

    Parent
    They are being turned back (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Jen M on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 02:44:09 PM EST
    at the borders of just about every country around them but that has absolutely nothing to do with it, right?

    Parent
    heh (1.00 / 1) (#15)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Nov 05, 2007 at 08:00:07 AM EST
    There is a saying that goes:

    When he goes out to get his newspaper in the morning and finds horse turds on the ground, he immediately starts looking for a horse.

    If that person was you, if you found a horse, you would immediately start looking for horse turds.

    Plainer. Every cloud has a black lining.

    But that they were turned back is not a new phenomenon. It is a long tradition in the ME. See the Palestinians when they tried to go to Jordan,Syria, Egypt. Hundreds of thousands were turned back and died in the refugee camps.

    The reason is that the countries involved have dictators. Dictators don't want thousands of new
    people. They also don't want people of different sects with a past history of killing each other.

    Parent

    Who new I'd find (1.00 / 0) (#18)
    by jondee on Mon Nov 05, 2007 at 02:47:14 PM EST
    a talking horse turd right here?

    Heh, tehe etc

    Parent

    knew (none / 0) (#19)
    by jondee on Mon Nov 05, 2007 at 02:47:30 PM EST
    When the U.S (none / 0) (#20)
    by jondee on Mon Nov 05, 2007 at 02:54:01 PM EST
    turned back Jewish refugees in WWII, we didnt have a dictator, so I guess that kind of thing dosnt necessarily require a dictator, just a grand tradition of myopic (and moronic) self-interest and xenophobia. You know, all those areas of study you have multiple degrees in.

    Heh tehe etc

    Parent

    any (none / 0) (#21)
    by Jen M on Mon Nov 05, 2007 at 06:01:06 PM EST
    why are you looking for pink zebras?

    Syria just closed the border  not 100 years ago, not 1000 years ago, just recently. They were letting lot s and lots and lots and lots and lots of iraquis in now they are sending some back and closed their borders.

    Your logic: this has nothing to do with people coming back.

    Uh huh.

    the fact that they cant go anywhere else now, and that this is a recent development has nothing to do with it?

    You have something of a problem with logic.  

    Enjoy the pink zebras.


    Parent

    Good link. (1.00 / 0) (#3)
    by Edger on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 10:48:12 AM EST
    Iraqis of all sects are pretty resilient and determined people.

    Even if you kill more than a million of them, displace more than 4 million of them, kill their children and poison their land, they still are intent on taking their country back.

    Good for them.

    Let's hope they don't want retribution.

    Parent

    Very resilient, as a matter of fact. (5.00 / 0) (#4)
    by Edger on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 11:04:48 AM EST
    They have that in common with the Vietnamese people.

    It's not surprising. Iraq was the cradle of civilization, after all.

    Parent

    heh (1.00 / 1) (#12)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Nov 05, 2007 at 07:45:53 AM EST
    Iraq was the cradle of civilization, after all.

    What happened 3000 years ago stays in 3000 years ago...

    Can we look at say, 700 BC forward? Kinda went down hill, eh??

    tehe

    Parent

    Heh (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by jondee on Mon Nov 05, 2007 at 02:28:27 PM EST
    How would you know?

    Tehe (Whats next grunts and squeals?)

    Parent

    I just wish (1.00 / 1) (#13)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Nov 05, 2007 at 07:47:10 AM EST
    they had tossed Saddam out instead of waiting for someone else to do it.

    Parent
    AP reports U.S. Navy boarded a ship at the (none / 0) (#5)
    by oculus on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 12:19:29 PM EST
    request of the South Korean government to remove pirates from the ship.  

    WGA (none / 0) (#6)
    by TomStewart on Sun Nov 04, 2007 at 01:12:16 PM EST
    I support the writers in this one. I have friends in the guild and I'm a writer myself (no, not a member), and what the writers are asking for is not only fair, it's probably not enough.

    It reminds me of the story about Robert Risken, the great screenwriter of many of Frank Capra's best films. After yet another published interview on the great 'Capra Touch', Risken is supposed to have handed him a blank script and said 'Here, work your 'Capra Touch' on that!'

    Good luck writers!

    Pakistan denies Musharraf under house arrest (none / 0) (#14)
    by Aaron on Mon Nov 05, 2007 at 07:58:09 AM EST