My name is Mark Klein. I used to be an AT&T technician for 22 years.

[Former AT&T Technician Mark Klein Speaks Out on Retroactive Immunity and Domestic Surveillance]

"What I figured out when I got there is that they were copying everything flowing across the internet cables, the major internet links between AT&T's network and other companies' networks."

"It struck me at the time that this was a massively unconstitutional, illegal operation."

"It affects not only AT&T's customers, but everybody because these links went to places link Sprint, Qwest, a whole bunch of other companies."

"And so they're basically tapping into the entire internet."

[But isn't the government only monitoring suspected terrorists and not ordinary Americans?]

"To perform what they say they want to do, which is look at international traffic, none of this makes any sense. These installations only make sense if they're doing a huge, massive domestic dragnet on everybody in the United States."

[Shouldn't the telecoms trust that the Bush administration's requests are legal?]

"These companies know very well what's legal and illegal. They've been dealing with this for decades. And it's a fact that Qwest refused the NSA's approaches because they didn't have, they weren't shown any legal justification for it. And they did the right thing and said, "no." "

"What I'm here for is it looked like a few weeks ago that the Senate bill which passed the Intelligence Committee would give immunity to the telecom companies and that would probably put an end to the lawsuits."

[The Senate Judiciary Committee is currently reviewing retroactive immunity]

"So I came here to lobby against giving immunity to the telecom companies. Let the court cases proceed and Congress should not interfere in that."

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