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Most political junkies are watching the Democratic debate. Me, I'm watching the NBA draft.

My early reviews as to who is having a good night? Portland got Oden. Traded Zack Randolph to the Knicks for Steve Francis and Channing Frye (other players involved). Since I think Oden will be the modern day Russell, Portland can do no wrong tonight.

As far as who did the most with what they had, I like the Hawks draft, Al Horford and Acie Law are very good value for 3 and 11 though I think Horford went too high and Law went too low. The headscratcher for me, from BOTH ENDS, is the Celtics-Sonics trade, 32 year old Ray Allen for the 5, and that pick is Jeff Green? Worst pick of the draft imo. Green was not a top 15 player in this draft. He disappeared at the end of games.

Most of you don't give a hoot about any of this, but don't worry, it is an Open Thread.

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    The south shall be risable again! (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Sailor on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 12:40:29 AM EST
    Background:
    * On Thursday, August 31, 2006, a small group of black students asked if they could sit under a tree on the traditionally white side of the Jena High School square.
     * The students were informed by the Vice Principal that they could sit wherever they pleased.
     * The following day, September 1, 2006, three nooses were found hanging from the tree in question. Two of the nooses were black and one was gold: the Jena High School colors.
    [...]
     * Principal Scott Windham recommended to an expulsion hearing committee that the three white boys responsible for hanging the nooses in the tree should be expelled from school.
    [...]
     * When black students staged an impromptu protest under the tree on Wednesday, September 6, 2006, a school assembly was hastily convened. Flanked by police officers, District Attorney Reed Walters warned black students that additional unrest would be treated as a criminal matter. According to multiple witnesses, Walters warned the black student protestors that, "I can make your lives disappear with a stroke of my pen."
    [...]
    * In one incident, a black student was assaulted by a white adult as he entered a predominantly white partly held at the Fair Barn  (a large metal building reserved for social events). After being struck in the face without warning, the young black student was assaulted by white students wielding beer bottles and was punched and kicked before adults broke up the fight. It has been reported that the white assailant who threw the first punch was subsequently charged with simple battery(a misdemeanor), but there is no documentary evidence that anyone was charged.
     * In a second major incident, a white high school graduate who had been involved in the assault the night before pulled a pump-action shotgun on three black high school students as they exited the Gotta-Go, a local convenience store. After a brief struggle for possession of the firearm, the black students exited the scene with the weapon.
    [...]
     * Shortly after the lunch hour of Monday, December 4, 2006, a fight between a white student and a black student reportedly ended with the white student [Justin Barker, later arrested for having a rifle with 13 bullets in his truck in the school parking lot.] being knocked to the floor. Several black students reportedly attacked the white student as he lay unconscious. Because the incident took place in a crowded area and was over in a matter of seconds eye witness accounts vary widely. Written statements from students closest to the scene (in space and time) suggest that the incident was sparked by an angry exchange in the gymnasium moments before in which the black student assaulted at the Fair Barn was taunted for having his "ass whipped".
     *  The victim of the attack is close friends of the boys who have admitted to hanging the nooses in September of 2006.
     *  Within an hour of the fight, six black students were arrested and charged with aggravated battery.
    [...]
     According to The Jena Times, at least a dozen teachers subsequently threatened a "sick-out" if discipline was not restored to the school. According to the Alexandria Town Talk, District Attorney Reed Walters responded to the teacher's threat by upping the charges on the six boys to attempted second-degree murder and conspiracy to commit second-degree murder--charges carrying a maximum sentence of life in prison.
    [...]
    The white boy who threw the first punch at the black student [Robert Bailey Jr.] at the Fair Barn was charged with simple battery - others who took part in the beating were not charged at all. The white adult (a Jena high school graduate) who threatened three black Jena students with a shotgun was not charged with a crime.
    [...]
    Black Teen Convicted After a prosecutor reduced attempted murder charges this week, an all-white jury found Mychal Bell, 17, guilty of aggravated second-degree battery and conspiracy to commit aggravated second-degree battery, both felonies.


    Who cares, it's just another (none / 0) (#38)
    by Electa on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 01:02:15 PM EST
    black boy who's life just went down the drain in the name of white justice.  Maybe Blacks will finally wise up, pull our children out of the malfunctioning public schools and assume the responsibility of educating our own children as every other nation of people does.  I'm not so sure the SCOTUS ruling is so bad afterall.  At least when our yunguns were educated in a secgregated environment our academic performance was greater, there were fewer drop-outs and we taught our own children.  In fact, just maybe Tavis Smiley should revisit the past 40 years of so-called integration and evaluate its overall benefit to Blacks as a whole.  I see very little progress as the lynchings continue.

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    BTD (none / 0) (#1)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:31:11 PM EST
    In spite of my deep distrust of you, any SEC fan can't be all bad.....well, almost any..

    ;-)

    I know College foootball (none / 0) (#2)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:33:12 PM EST
    Let's Go Gators!!

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    Vandy's going bowling!!! (none / 0) (#32)
    by Slado on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 11:35:17 AM EST
    Not since 1982 have the Dores gone to the post season.

    This is the year!

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    What Vandy oughtta do... (none / 0) (#35)
    by Dadler on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 12:49:52 PM EST
    ...is lower that g*ddamn basketball floor in their arean.  The way it's raised is nuts, reminds of of when they had football goalposts at the goal line -- the footage of guys slamming into those things still makes me scratch my head and wonder why it took them so long to move the posts back.

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    What? (none / 0) (#36)
    by Slado on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 12:57:00 PM EST
    As someone who used to run up and down that floor during practice and sat on the baselines during games I take great offense.

    Memorial is one of the top ten places to watch college basketball in the country.

    It is a dedicated basketball gym.  It isn't designed for hockey, concerts, volleyball or anything else.  

    Have you ever been there Dadler?  I was there in 1993 when we beat Pitino and #1 Kentucky.  I was there this year when we beat #1 Florida and there is no place louder or harder to play in when it's rocking.

    Go Dores!

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    I love the arena (none / 0) (#40)
    by Dadler on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 01:15:42 PM EST
    Know what a gem it is, right up there in many ways with Hinkle Fieldhouse at Butler.  So I'm busting your nuts a bit.  But I have always disliked the raised floor.  I'm too much of a Jewish mother in an atheist father's body, and I'm always waiting for some kid to snap a leg going off the edge.  I worry, and put on your sunscreen.  Though the raised floor is obviously a great home court advantage/gimmick.

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    BTD (none / 0) (#3)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:37:35 PM EST
    Your season was made when you escaped a thord and 21...

    Not that I pay any attention..

    Oh many escapes (none / 0) (#4)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:38:42 PM EST
    Truth be told, that was not a great team. Played their best on the most important night though.

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    I had to scroll down to the comments (none / 0) (#27)
    by HK on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 10:37:04 AM EST
    to find out if the NBA was to do with football or baseball...I feel like a total girl.

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    Debate just ended (none / 0) (#5)
    by andgarden on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:40:32 PM EST
    Amazingly, you didn't miss anything. . .

    I'll watch a repeat if (none / 0) (#6)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:43:43 PM EST
    I have trouble sleeping.

    It is hard enough to watch these things when they matter but to watch them now?

    Ugh.

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    There was some substance (none / 0) (#7)
    by andgarden on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:51:48 PM EST
    but very little Iraq, and nothing said by any that I didn't already know.

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    Honestly (none / 0) (#8)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:52:45 PM EST
    It utterly bores me.

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    Petteri Koponen!!!!!! (none / 0) (#9)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:53:40 PM EST
    The Flying Finn!!

    I'll leave it cryptic.

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    meh, had to google that. n/t (none / 0) (#13)
    by andgarden on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 10:11:14 PM EST
    Finn Flies To Far West! (none / 0) (#14)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 10:17:40 PM EST
    Petteri to Portland . . .

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    And now--back to Nancy Grace. (none / 0) (#16)
    by oculus on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 11:21:37 PM EST
    Open Thread (none / 0) (#20)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 12:15:34 AM EST
    Very. (none / 0) (#21)
    by oculus on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 12:19:24 AM EST
    I've always thought the best job in the world would ber to write headlines for the sports section.  But you are so much better at alliteration (sp).  

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    Mandatory Minimum Sentences (none / 0) (#11)
    by Ben Masel on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 10:06:30 PM EST
    They all, I think, came out for getting  rid of them for drug cases. Even Biden.

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    Greed is Good. Greed is Right! (none / 0) (#10)
    by Edger on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:57:32 PM EST
    If you ever trusted the WSJ you can stop now.

    Hat Tip to Larisa, at-Largely:

    Wall Street Journos protest Murdoch Foxification of Dow Jones

    The surge is woooorrrrking... (none / 0) (#12)
    by Edger on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 10:07:30 PM EST
    We're making progress in Iraaaaaaaq.

    This you have to like (none / 0) (#15)
    by Edger on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 10:53:56 PM EST
    Chris Dodd's YouTube Spotlight
    ...we have the power to bypass bypass the traditional media filter by participating in discussions online, through blogs and YouTube, ensuring that the important issues - like how to responsibly end the war -- get the real attention that they deserve in the 2008 presidential campaign


    I didn't watch it but I read some of it (none / 0) (#17)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 11:47:39 PM EST
    Joe Biden never lets me down talking about convincing black guys that wearing a condom isn't unmanly.  Joe obviously hasn't tried getting many whitish guys in a condom.  Show of hands here, how many have slept with a paler version of the male human species who just couldn't wait to get his hands on that condom and put it where it did the most good?

    Oops wrong thread (none / 0) (#18)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 11:49:15 PM EST
    I thought this was debate thread.  Oh well, such is life.

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    That's why its called an open (none / 0) (#19)
    by oculus on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 12:12:27 AM EST
    thread, no?  For a second there I though realitybites had discovered  Talk Left.

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    Levon Helm...... (none / 0) (#23)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 08:29:05 AM EST
    The guy blows me away....I can't say I've ever seen a human being look happier than Levon did last night banging the skins, strumming the mandolin, and singing his heart out in Central Park.  Real Americana music man...good for the soul.

    Out of nine lives, I spent seven
    Now, how in the world do you get to Heaven
    Oh, you don't know the shape I'm in

    Last night heaven was right off 69th and 5th.

    Sounds like it was a great concert, kdog. (none / 0) (#24)
    by Edger on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 08:34:15 AM EST
    Do you know if it was recorded?

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    I don't know.... (none / 0) (#25)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 08:51:16 AM EST
    about a recording, but it was a great show edger.  You should check out Levon's website and catch him if he's coming your way.  Trust me.

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    I will... thanks. (none / 0) (#26)
    by Edger on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 09:02:54 AM EST
    Bush - Creating the next Dark Ages? (none / 0) (#28)
    by Edger on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 11:01:25 AM EST
    Bush, Mideast Wars and End-Time Prophecy
    President George W. Bush has become dangerously steeped in ideas of Armageddon, the Apocalypse, an imminent war with Satanic forces in the Middle East, and an urgency to construct an American theocracy to fulfill God's end-of-days plan, according to close observers.
    ...
    Further evidence is the Bush administration's transformation of the military.
    ...
    Army Lt. General William "Jerry" Boykin made headlines in 2003 when he said he believed America was engaged in a holy war as a "Christian nation" battling Satan. Adversaries can be defeated, he said, "only if we come against them in the name of Jesus." Despite his highly publicized rhetoric, Boykin remains Bush's deputy undersecretary of defense for intelligence.

    ...Bush's own personal minister, Franklin Graham, has called Islam "evil and very wicked." He has said, "Let's use the weapons we have, the weapons of mass destruction if need be, and destroy the enemy."

    Respected journalist Bill Moyers says that for the religious figures around Bush "a war with Islam in the Middle East is not something to be feared, but welcomed - an essential conflagration on the road to redemption." Scholars calculate that the group, which religion author Lynne Bundesen has dubbed "end-time Christians," has up to 40 million followers.
    ...
    Meanwhile, the influence of end-time Christians has burrowed deeply into the American Israel Political Action Committee, AIPAC, the powerful Israeli lobby. At the last AIPAC meeting with a long list of speakers that included Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, "Hagee got the loudest applause of anybody," according to Mezvinsky.

    Mezvinsky reports he is increasingly hearing Israelis say that "we want the United States focusing on Iran. Those are people who would like the United States to attack Iran. They realize that, given the involvement in Iraq, there's not the wherewithal to go after Iran." Israel Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has called Iran an "existential threat" to Israel.

    This spring, AIPAC, with the help of its end-time supporters, succeeded in removing language from a military appropriations bill that would have required Bush to get Congressional approval before using military force against Iran. So again, Iran policy provides the example - here for how end-time religion, the politics of Israel and neocon strategies converge. And how end-time thinking entangles George W. Bush.

    Can we arrest him now? The man needs some serious treatment, before he has another temper tantrum.

    With God on Our Side: Evangelical Christianity On Steroids In  US Military

    Zeitgeist

    Bombing Iran (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by squeaky on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 11:13:08 AM EST
    Mmm hmmm. (none / 0) (#31)
    by Edger on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 11:14:24 AM EST
    Pretty scary, huh?

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    This one is probably the (none / 0) (#30)
    by Edger on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 11:13:10 AM EST
    most revealing real photo of Bush I've seen yet.

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    Talk Radio (none / 0) (#33)
    by Slado on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 11:37:29 AM EST
    What's with the Democrats wasting time trying to take on conservative talk radio?

    Do they really mean it?   No way Republicans wouldn't fillubuster it and I doubt they good get Dems from conservative districts to support it.

    What a fools errand.   Surely the good folks of TL don't support government regulating the content of talk?

    I have no answer Slado..... (none / 0) (#34)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 12:20:56 PM EST
    seems to me its the same tired game of politicians sweating the small stuff, ignoring the big stuff.  I question the intelligence or sincerity of anyone who thinks right-wing radio is a pressing concern requiring government attention.

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    My thoughts exactly... (none / 0) (#37)
    by Slado on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 12:58:33 PM EST
    I have the same feeling when my fellow conservatives complain about NPR or CNN etc...

    Get over it.   Bias is in the eye of the beholder and nobody makes anyone listen to Rush or go to one of Moore's movies.

    Ridiculous.  

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    Dems and Repubs.... (none / 0) (#41)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 02:57:42 PM EST
    are more than happy to take advantage of such knuckleheaded wingnuttery.

    I was gonna make a comparison to gay marriage...I think Rush and Hannity get the liberal wingnuts riled up like two dudes tying the knot gets conservative wingnuts riled up.

    What a country we would have if these were our big problems, eh?

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    Hoops (none / 0) (#39)
    by Dadler on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 01:06:40 PM EST
    The Lakers are falling apart on me.  Kobe is killing me.  Not getting Garnett sucks.  Though they did draft the best name in the first round: Javaris Crittendon.  Sounds like it's right out of a Toni Morrison novel.  Then some skinny Chinese forward -- come on, enough beanpoles from the People's Republic already, where's one lousy Chinese A.C. Green when you need him?  Hell, I'd settle for one Chinese Kurt Rambis.  But I'm dreaming.  Anyway, then with our third pick we got Pau Gasol's little brother.  Which at this point is about as good as getting my little brother.  We shall see.  But I have a very bad feeling about the upcoming season for the Forum blue and gold.

    Dark clouds gathering.  Many dark clouds.

    Gonna have to focus on the college hoops more.  

    Just as my.... (none / 0) (#42)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 03:08:53 PM EST
    beloved Knicks seem to be getting things somewhat together after several years of pure basketball hell.

    Got Randolph from Portland for almost nothing (not a Channing Frye fan, too soft), hopefully Randolph comes to play and not be a cancer...and can co-exist with Curry in the post.  I can't believe we found a taker for Steve Francis!

    Cheer up Dadler...at least your time has won titles in your lifetime.

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    Bynum, Odum, Kwame and the lakers pick (Javaris) (none / 0) (#43)
    by Peaches on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 03:16:06 PM EST
    for Garnett. No Deal, No way in heck.

    You want Ricky Davis?

    How 'bout Troy Hudson?

    Marc Blount?

    I actually love to watch Kobe, and Kobe and KG would have been fun. But, I want KG to say right where he's at.

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    We need somebody bigtime (none / 0) (#44)
    by Dadler on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 03:35:22 PM EST
    Had that somebody in Shaq, but that's a whole other soap opera.

    Kobe can be great to watch, and infuriating.

    I'd hate to lose Garnett, too, but I still think he's gone.  Where?  No idea.

    Bring on the Pac-10, Mountain West, and West Coast Conference.  


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    Not sure I believe it (none / 0) (#45)
    by Peaches on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 03:53:59 PM EST
    I think there's a deal out there for Garnett that the WOlves braintrust might do, but unless we get back Labron or Duncan, its a bad deal.

    I think a lot of the KG tradetalk is just hype over some minor discussions. KG has an opt-out after 07-08, but I don't think he'll walk from 24 million. and after that, maybe he goes, but I still think the Wolves would have the inside track to resign him if we show some improvement over the next two years with our young guys. We'll see. Love NBA ball and I love KG and the Wolves. Now that the Gophers got Tubby, I might start paying more attention to the NCAAs again.

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    K.G. wants a ring (none / 0) (#47)
    by Dadler on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 05:19:22 PM EST
    Badly.  I think he's at a point where the money means much less.  He's already made more than a hundred million.  I get the feeling he's going to opt out and go wherever he can have the best shot to hoist the O'Brien Trophy.  

    Yeah, Tubby will bring some added excitement to the Gophers, no doubt.  The environment he got out of in Kentucky is almost too much for anyone at this point.  

    I have a decent D-1 college team five minutes from my front door, and this year I'm planning on being a gym rat season ticket holder.  Great piece of basketball trivia: "Grampa" Al Lewis of Munsters fame was a vert wekk respected high shool/college basketball scout for much of his life.  Speaking of gym rats.

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    good grief, that should read... (none / 0) (#48)
    by Dadler on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 05:20:25 PM EST
    "very well respected".

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    a cure, perhaps, for pathological prudery (none / 0) (#46)
    by Sumner on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 05:07:19 PM EST
    There once was a time when all this pathological-prudery-gone-run-amuck, would have been summarily thwarted by a Roman emperor - who would have made it expected for the wives and daughters of legislators and judges to attend the orgies if winds of governmental prudery began to gale.

    While in "modern" times, that approach is understood to be as at least as abusive as government's current intrusion into people's sexuality, (the "get government out of the boardrooms and into the bedrooms" types), perhaps there is another cure.

    As it is clear that many of these laws are passed in order to provide a cover for politicos, and those in that ancillary machinery, such as police and judges, to indulge in such things as the pornography, etc., all the while they are ostensibly fighting it, we should test for that.

    Just as so-called sex offenders are now required to provide complete sexual histories, perhaps now is the time that those involved in the war-on-sex need provide them too, cradle-to-grave. Especially the federal judges.

    Board won't bar alleged molester from schools

    School psychologist won't lose his license. The alleged victim's mother is 'outraged.'

    A former educational psychologist for Los Angeles schools who allegedly molested a boy hundreds of times two decades ago will not lose his state license and will be able to continue working with children.

    In a terse letter last month, the California Board of Behavioral Sciences informed the alleged victim's mother that it had concluded a nearly yearlong investigation, and no action would be taken against Peter J. Ruthenbeck because the statute of limitations had run out

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    otherwise the Draconians grow more emboldened (none / 0) (#50)
    by Sumner on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 06:30:52 PM EST
    If, as Americans, this whole notion of human sexuality as a wholesome thing seems completely alien, consider how seriously others are taking it, elsewhere.

    The idea of desexualizing vast portions of population, (such as Bush's $billions for abstinence until 30), leads to abysmal body self-images. That in turn breeds more pathological prudery, (and with that, a culture where being a "sexual-victim" brings the highest acclaim). Pathological prudery leads to devaluing people and perhaps even leads to more violence and war, nevermind just the increased obesity, tattoos and piercings and suicides, etc., from loathing one's own body image.

    Pathological prudery, (owing largely to government having been co-opted by business and religion), has nearly socially set us back to the Dark Ages. Perhaps as a counter-measure, Pediatrics-prescribed Kagel exercises should be considered for girls, thus encouraging early physicals.


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    of what you write, however the female circumcision of Somali-Norwegians is pretty horrifying to this Western male.

    How do you feel about male circumcision?

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    issues of human sexuality under attack, related (none / 0) (#52)
    by Sumner on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 07:37:37 PM EST
    No doubt my ever-so-brief remarks seem non-linear. Perhaps after revisiting the topics in the future, they'll seem less foreign and unrelated.

    Repression injures humanity. And as sexual politics get more Draconian, we should insist on being free to investigate and discuss them.

    So here's two other Lord Acton quotes beyond the familiar, "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely":

    "Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end."

    and

    "Every thing secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity."

    So, that said, the main difference between male and female "circumcisions", is that the latter involves recisions of entire clitorides - (plural, clitorides; clitoral or clitoridean).

    The objects of both procedures are entirely different. To remove the female clitoris for religious purposes is in order to deprive females of their sexuality by rendering absent, any sexual pleasure. For humans that appreciate sexuality as a necessary whole-life part of humanity, such an operation rings tragic.

    Were you to watch some of the graphic videos of girls kicking and screaming while being forcibly held down for this unwanted procedure, you might feel additionally disturbed.

    It comes as little surprise that this country's judges and law makers show little concern or interest for this, but they continue to focus on destroying vast aspects of human sexuality, instead. That in-and-of-itself is quite telling.

    Among the several reasons touted in support of male circumcision, is said to be that the procedure enhances pleasure.

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    Male Fantasies (none / 0) (#53)
    by squeaky on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 08:26:11 PM EST
     
    Wow. I don't see the connections throughout much
    of what you write
    Have a look at Klaus Theweleit's book. It may give you thread to follow what sumner wrote.

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    dunno (none / 0) (#54)
    by Sumner on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 09:26:58 PM EST
    Actually, I don't know that material. I'll have to take your word for it. What gets me generally in a huff is regularly reading here, about how these too-clever-by-half black robes so constantly parse our freedoms away where the Constitution clearly forbids it.

    To me, the celebrity Paris Hilton, represents the very Statue of Liberty. Yet many here seemed to have wanted her to hurt at the maximum degree possible. My guess is that it goes to her overt sexuality.

    But that comes as no surprise. Billions-of-dollars of media space and time have aready been spent selling the anti-sex, anti-nudity, anti-pornography message in this country over the last 10 years. How could anyone escape that constant bombardment of pathological prudery, with a clear and open mind left intact?

    My previous mention of the attacks by Florida and Doj on Joe Francis, drew no acknowledgment, (from Girls Gone Wild). Yet many believe that had Joe Francis not been wisked away from Florida to Nevada, to face tax charges, he was already marked for death in the Florida jail.

    That kids these days, are made to have poor body images so that they won't feel overtly sexual, and are not seen as sexual beings, arguably leads to them often becoming obese. The poor body image sold to kids, also seems to sometimes lead to a need to adorn it - in order to make their bodies seem more attractive - (since they have been so sold on being un-attractive), so they turn to piercings and tattoos, etc. What is hard to see about that common thread?

    Do you really think that it wouldn't be quite easy to merely parrot standard party line here, like so many others feel perpetuaally obliged to do, and who seem to feel so proud of themselves that they can march lock-step, and parrot party line, in perfect sync?

    Sheesh, have you ever tried reading James Joyce for clarity? Do his lines scan that clearly?

    "But you are no Joyce"... yeah, sheesh, tell me about it...

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    Female genital mutilation (none / 0) (#55)
    by Sumner on Sat Jun 30, 2007 at 11:30:11 AM EST
    ::Another:: "deadliest three months" (none / 0) (#56)
    by Edger on Sat Jun 30, 2007 at 11:34:34 AM EST
    AP via truthout:
    Baghdad - A huge bomb explosion followed by a hail of gunfire and grenades killed five U.S. soldiers, the military said Friday. The attack climaxed the deadliest three-month period for the Americans since the war began.

    Seven soldiers were wounded in the attack Thursday in the Rasheed district, a mixed Sunni-Shiite area of southern Baghdad where U.S.- led forces recently stepped up pressure on extremists. The commander of U.S. forces in Baghdad suggested the ambush could be part of an escalating backlash by Sunni insurgents.

    Those deaths brought to 99 the number of U.S. troops killed this month, according to an Associated Press count. The toll for the past three months - 329 - made it the deadliest quarter for U.S. troops in Iraq since the March 2003 invasion. That surpasses the 316 soldiers killed during November 2004 to January 2005.



    Paying The Price For Idiocy (none / 0) (#57)
    by Edger on Sat Jun 30, 2007 at 11:55:45 AM EST
    The commander of U.S. forces in Baghdad suggested the ambush could be part of an escalating backlash by Sunni insurgents.

    These would be the same Sunni insurgents that Bush, out of his respect for the US military, has decided to supply with weapons:

    The "insurgency" IS Iraq. It is Iraqis.

    By arming Sunnis to ostensibly help fight al-Qaeda (who was NOT in Iraq before the invasion and is such a small minority the Iraqis will slit all their throats the moment they are not distracted by throwing the US out) but who will use the help to fight Shias Bush is now taking sides in a civil war with people who composed Saddam's Ba'ath Party, against the very Shia backed puppet government Bush set up in the first place.

    Paying The Price For Idiocy

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    More Secrecy (none / 0) (#58)
    by squeaky on Sat Jun 30, 2007 at 12:23:01 PM EST
    Transcripts of four hearings in the case of Thomas Kontogiannis, a financier who pleaded guilty in connection with the Randy "Duke" Cunningham scandal, will remain sealed, a federal appeals court said yesterday.

    What possibly could be in this private citizen's hearing transcripts that is classified? Cunningham was a congressman on the House intelligence committee, and his plea agreement and sentencing documents are not sealed. But Kontogiannis' hearings transcripts are. What is Kontogiannis' relationship with the US government?

    Laura Rozen

    Winning friends and influencing people (none / 0) (#59)
    by Edger on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 03:06:21 PM EST
    "Up to 80 Civilians Dead" After US Air Strikes in Afghanistan
    Air strikes in the British-controlled Helmand province of Afghanistan may have killed civilians, coalition troops said yesterday as local people claimed that between 50 and 80 people, many of them women and children, had died.

    In the latest of a series of attacks causing significant civilian casualties in recent weeks, more than 200 were killed by coalition troops in Afghanistan in June, far more than are believed to have been killed by Taliban militants.
    ...
    In Afghanistan, the civilian deaths caused by US and Nato-led troops have infuriated local people and prompted President Hamid Karzai to publicly condemn foreign forces for careless 'use of extreme force' and for viewing Afghan lives as 'cheap'.
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    Three children were also killed on Friday and another wounded when an old rocket they were playing with exploded in Zabul province in the south, said General Yaqoub Khan, the provincial police chief.



    Churchill or Chamberlain (none / 0) (#60)
    by squeaky on Sun Jul 01, 2007 at 11:22:57 PM EST
    Bush identifies with Churchil but it turns out that he is more like Chamberlain,

    Just as Bush has done, Chamberlain authorized the wiretapping of citizens without court authorization; Churchill was among those whose phones were tapped by the prime minister's subordinates. Churchill, by contrast, believed firmly in the sanctity of individual liberties and the need to protect them from government encroachment.

    Read on via Laura Rozen