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How Low Will Rudy Go?

The latest low mark for the Rudy campaign - sending out reps to say that the first responders do not know who attacked us on 9/11:

A former deputy mayor, Joe Lhota, said the critics are politically motivated and wrong. "They're taking their anger out in the wrong direction," Lhota said. "He was literally there four and five times a day; he did anything but run away. "They're losing sight of the fact that this country, and this city, was attacked on that day by terrorists; it's their fault."

Rudy failed the first responders and New York City with his incompetence on terrorism. If he is going to campaign on the murder by the evil bin Laden of 3000 Americans, then his incompetence must be discussed. As a commenter at TPM shrewdly notes, conservative Jay Cost has said that Rudy's is a bloody shirt campaign:

I am reminded of the politics of the post-bellum era - in which average-to-below-average Republicans in the North could be elected by "waving the bloody shirt," i.e. referencing their (seemingly) prominent roles in the Civil War to win the support of Northerners. . . . He is, in a certain sense, waving the bloody shirt of 9/11. Can the Republican Party refuse it?

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    Hmm, Hey Dixicrats (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by andgarden on Sat Aug 11, 2007 at 08:16:51 PM EST
    Rudy thinks he's Sherman!

    Aren't any of those left. (5.00 / 0) (#6)
    by Molly Bloom on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 08:25:48 AM EST
    They defected to the GOP as designed with the Southern Strategy followed by every GOP candidate from  Nixon to George HW Bush. Now they or their literal and intellcutual descendants are just rank and file GOP members.



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    You misunderstand my point (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by andgarden on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 01:23:13 PM EST
    Republicans today have an itsy bitsy problem waving the bloody shirt: the core of their party is southern!

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    I believe (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by Mel W on Sat Aug 11, 2007 at 11:36:03 PM EST
    that its fair to ask whether as many people would have died on 9/11 if Giuliani had set up the Disaster Management Headquarters in Brooklyn as was recommended. Its also fair to question whether firefighters died needlessly on that day because  of faulty communications, a problem that had been identified back in 1993.

    Evidently unbelievably low (none / 0) (#2)
    by Alien Abductee on Sat Aug 11, 2007 at 08:38:56 PM EST
    Rudy Giuliani's Five Big Lies About 9/11

    The part about how and why the command center ended up being sited at 7 World Trade over all the objections and obvious reasons not to is particularly egregious:

    BIG LIE #2. 'I don't think there was anyplace in the country, including the federal government, that was as well prepared for that attack as New York City was in 2001.'

    Diamond's GOP-wired broker steered Hauer to the building, which was owned by a major Giuliani donor and fundraiser. When Hauer signed onto it, he was locked in by the limitations Giuliani had imposed on the search and the sites Diamond offered him. The mayor was so personally focused on the siting and construction of the bunker that the city administrator who oversaw it testified in a subsequent lawsuit that "very senior officials," specifically including Giuliani, "were involved," which he said was a major difference between this and other projects. Giuliani's office had a humidor for cigars and mementos from City Hall, including a fire horn, police hats and fire hats, as well as monogrammed towels in his bathroom. His suite was bulletproofed and he visited it often, even on weekends, bringing his girlfriend Judi Nathan there long before the relationship surfaced. He had his own elevator. Great concern was expressed in writing that the platform in the press room had to be high enough to make sure his head was above the cameras. It's inconceivable that the hands-on mayor's fantasy command center was shaped--or sited--by anyone other than him.

    Of course, the consequences of putting the center there were predictable. The terrorist who engineered the 1993 bombing told the FBI they were coming back to the trade center. Opposing the site at a meeting with the mayor, Police Commissioner Howard Safir called it "Ground Zero" because of the earlier attack...

    Great potential candidate there, GOP. Go Rudy!

    Al-Abductee? ;-) (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Edger on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 10:39:05 AM EST
    Do you believe everything the terrorists tell you?  
    The terrorist who engineered the 1993 bombing told the FBI they were coming back
    If you do, then you obviously understand that invading and occupying and Iraq had nothing to do with the terrorists.

    al-Qaeda was not in Iraq before George invited them by invading.

    Why does George want to destroy America anyway?

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    LOL (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Alien Abductee on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 01:20:38 PM EST
    How did you learn my supersecret terrorist sympathizer identity? Dang you Edger!

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    Hah! (none / 0) (#14)
    by Edger on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 01:50:17 PM EST
    The NSA is a bunch of clueless amateurs! What can you with necons anyway?

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    Alien (1.00 / 1) (#7)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 09:25:58 AM EST

    Do you believe everything the terrorist tell you?

    The terrorist who engineered the 1993 bombing told the FBI they were coming back

    If you do, then you must understand that our leaving Iraq will do nothing to slow down the terrorists.

    So, the driving-away jihad against the US does not stop with its withdrawal from the Arabian peninsula, but rather it must desist from aggressive intervention against Muslims in the whole world.


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    Trooling ;-) (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Edger on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 10:39:39 AM EST
    That's a great article by Barrett (none / 0) (#3)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Aug 11, 2007 at 08:55:01 PM EST
    I posted on it a few days ago.

    BArrett is an interesting case. When Rudy looked like he was going to run against Koch, he courted liberal and African Americans.
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    When Dinkins beat Koch, Rudy showed his true self.

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    Amazing (none / 0) (#12)
    by Alien Abductee on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 01:22:42 PM EST
    he gets to walk around in his heroic 9/11 persona instead of being defined by that in the media. Though being known for his ferrets rant would be good too.

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    I read about this morning (none / 0) (#5)
    by coigue on Sat Aug 11, 2007 at 11:50:59 PM EST
    in the SF Chron. Both he and Romney are making huge gaffes (can I say Kerryesc gaffes???), but this was a huge hit to Rudy. I hope it survives a few more news cycles, and comes back to bite him in the ass during the general election..if he gets there.