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Novak: A McCain-Condi Rice Ticket

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:02:16 PM EST
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Bob Novak just said on Fox News that Condoleeza Rice might well be John McCain's running mate.

Is that to provide a hedge against both Obama and Hillary? Or another pundit's attempt to reduce the presidential contest to race and gender?

The problem is that too many people will realize whoever McCain picks as VP has a high chance of becoming president and I can't think of anyone who would say Condi Rice is equipped or qualified to be President. In fact, that's a very scary proposition.

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    hmmmm (5.00 / 2) (#7)
    by cdo on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:13:58 PM EST
    I wonder if it was before or after she appeared before congress...

          "What was the title of the report?"
    RICE: "Osama Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside      the U.S."

    Don't be too sure. (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by LarryInNYC on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:15:43 PM EST
    I overheard a conversation on the street in New York between two (presumed) Republicans and they agreed that Rice was the only Administration figure they could see voting for for President.

    The thing is that, aside from her disastrous involvement in foreign affairs (a big aside, I grant you) she's pretty liberal -- pro-choice, pro-affirmative action.

    Larry (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by Kathy on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:38:49 PM EST
    I think Condi is brilliant, but the fact that she so blindly follows GWB makes me think that there is something not quite right there.  Like, maybe she might be some kind of alien.  I dunno, just a thought.

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    I Was Thinking (none / 0) (#25)
    by squeaky on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:39:58 PM EST
    Robot.

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    squeaky (none / 0) (#27)
    by Kathy on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:46:10 PM EST
    yes, but a robot from outer space...?

    "We cannot rebuild it.  We do not have the technology."

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    Good Thing (none / 0) (#29)
    by squeaky on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:58:00 PM EST
    And close that d*mn portal quick.

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    That was the other "con" point (none / 0) (#13)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:21:26 PM EST
    by the am radio guy:  her trying to put together a peace agreement in the Middle East.  That part surprised me.  Isn't everyone hoping for peace in the Middle East, not that W has a prayer of accomplishing that at this late date and with the rest of the world laughing at him.

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    And then there's shoe-shopping during Katrina (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Cream City on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:22:31 PM EST
    Always makes me think of her as Condi "Imelda" Rice.

    that's good (none / 0) (#37)
    by lily15 on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 11:12:49 PM EST


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    Wow, what a ticket (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by Dadler on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 10:56:47 AM EST
    A certifiably mentally ill man, with a seriously untreated case of PTSD and raging anger, paired with a woman who, though she can play the piano and speak Russian, has absolutely NOTHING on her resume but being an accomplice to mass murder with the rest of us -- though as one of the "leaders" who started the mass murder, she'd most likely get the Nuremburg treatment if the "West" had any effective morality left.

    ahhhh condi... (none / 0) (#1)
    by cdo on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:05:50 PM EST
    in the words of our fearless leader (snark)
    BRING IT ON!

    Ohh Jeralyn (none / 0) (#2)
    by Jgarza on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:06:41 PM EST
    The problem is that too many people will realize whoever McCain picks as VP has a high chance of becoming president and I can't think of anyone who would say Condi Rice is equipped or qualified to be President. In fact, that's a very scary proposition.

    I never thought of I that way, but man is that the truth.  Even if he lived the entire way through is he up to two terms?  

    Also i don't think African Americans have any affinity to Condi, of course repubs think AA just for for people that look like them, so they probably don't realize she wouldn't help them.

    So since (none / 0) (#3)
    by Jgarza on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:08:25 PM EST
    Gore's weight loss was the vital sign that he is considering running, should we be looking to see if Condi fixes her teeth to know if she is considering running?

    Unkind, me thinks. (none / 0) (#19)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:29:17 PM EST


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    You are a classy guy (none / 0) (#61)
    by Wile ECoyote on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 03:33:47 PM EST
    Mind if I save this comment for later useage?

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    I heard an am radio talk show person (Medved?) (none / 0) (#4)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:09:32 PM EST
    mention Condi as VP last week.  He rejected the idea:  needs to go back to California and have experience in elective office first.

    However, about a year ago a black male attorney told me that if Condi ran for president, very black person would vote for her.  That was before the Dem. primary boiled down to HRC and Barack Obama though.

    Wow (none / 0) (#5)
    by chrisvee on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:11:48 PM EST
    That is a scary prospect given what we've seen of her to date.

    I can't imagine many folks will think she is ready based on her performance as NSA and SOS.  And can't you just see the campaign ads -- all sorts of clips of her talking about mushroom clouds and PDBs and such. I can't believe McCain would make such a risky choice when most folks will likely consider his choice very important because of his age.

    She Is Better Than (none / 0) (#6)
    by squeaky on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:13:22 PM EST
    GW. Which of course says nothing.

    No she's not. (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Molly Bloom on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:17:40 PM EST


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    Really? (none / 0) (#15)
    by squeaky on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:24:02 PM EST
    Why? He's a moron. At least she has some brains.

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    Then her participation in this travesty is all the (none / 0) (#20)
    by Molly Bloom on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:29:50 PM EST
    worse and more evil. She should know better.

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    Yes I Have Too Agree (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by squeaky on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:34:34 PM EST
    Sorry. The question about who, of that lot, is worse or better is not worthy of discussion. They should all be in jail for war crimes at the very least.

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    they better look around some more (none / 0) (#16)
    by cdo on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:25:21 PM EST
    Condi won't run for anything. Won't happen.

    and how is picking condi going to (none / 0) (#17)
    by hellothere on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:26:11 PM EST
    help mccain with the average repub voter? how is it going to help in the south? i am not trying to make a statement on race here, but looking at it from the point of view that a polical consultant would advise mccain. i don't see where she helps him. i don't see the aa democratic voter saying to themselves that there is a choice now. obama is a democrat and stands for different views than condi. there is no contest there.

    McCain is trying to portray himself (none / 0) (#22)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:32:15 PM EST
    as independent, reaching out to all.  A Republican Obama reaching left.  Rice would help I suppose.

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    mccain vp (none / 0) (#21)
    by cdo on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:30:25 PM EST
    mccain needs someone who will appeal to the repub base. If i were in his team i'd be looking at someone like Petraus maybe.

    ha ha Condi is Bushie's top advisor (none / 0) (#26)
    by Judith on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:43:06 PM EST
    and look how well that's worked out.

    next!

    McCain needs economic back covered (none / 0) (#28)
    by Stellaaa on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 10:46:30 PM EST
    Two foreign policy/defense  types will not work, he needs someone for the numbers...he admitted his weakness

    He got caught on that one didn't he? (none / 0) (#30)
    by Teresa on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 11:01:16 PM EST
    Even though he denied it in the debate.

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    Scary isn't the word (none / 0) (#31)
    by lily15 on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 11:02:51 PM EST
    Terrifying...Condi Rice, another one who has gotten a free pass because of...what?  She is a total incompetent...a liar...and embarrassing...She fails at everything...but is rewarded with nary a negative word in the press..

    I have a hard time (none / 0) (#43)
    by Repack Rider on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 12:13:00 AM EST
    taking anyone seriously if they take Condi Rice seriously.

    Seriously.

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    Skills (none / 0) (#57)
    by horseloverfat on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 03:27:32 PM EST
    Condi's sole skills are flattering George Bush and telling him what he wants to hear.

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    Obama mentioned Oprah for VP (none / 0) (#32)
    by lily15 on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 11:06:19 PM EST
    in gest (I think)...after all Oprah has voted Republican too...so maybe Condi wouldn't offend him too much...in fact, he probably would never go negative on her...there are rules you know...and if they have Reagan in common...he can get along OK.

    Yeah (none / 0) (#36)
    by squeaky on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 11:10:09 PM EST
    Mentioned her on Letterman's top ten. It was a joke. Sorta funny tho.

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    jest (none / 0) (#34)
    by lily15 on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 11:08:58 PM EST


    I feel like I read this whole thread before (none / 0) (#35)
    by Judith on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 11:09:43 PM EST
    on another board.  I must be losing my sense of time and space.

    for VP (none / 0) (#39)
    by lily15 on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 11:16:55 PM EST
    I've heard talk of a southern governor..

    nah (none / 0) (#41)
    by Judith on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 11:28:00 PM EST
    she has been through the whirlwind before - I dont doubt she can take it.

     

    LOL! (none / 0) (#42)
    by chemoelectric on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 11:46:40 PM EST
    Super extra doubleplus lulz!!!

    McCain-Powell is a winning ticket (none / 0) (#45)
    by robrecht on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 08:38:57 AM EST
    Clinton-Clark is a winning ticket

    Who should Obama choose???

    Powell is redemption for a lot of people ... (none / 0) (#49)
    by robrecht on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 01:46:50 PM EST
    ... not just himself.  He was just cautious and then just critical enough of the Iraq war to be allow people to say: Yes, we too were fooled, just like Powell, but we need to make it good now.  McCain and Powell can make it right like nobody else can.  McCain wasn't just a supporter of the surge, he also tries to cast himself as an Iraq war critic, ie, a critic of Bush's trainwreck.  They are both real heroes to the military, they won't use them for political gains like Bush.  They will get the military what they need, unlike Rumsfeld.  The Powell doctrine was the Super Surge before a surge was even needed.  I'm not sure how old Powell is, but he seems young compared to McCain.  He'll learn to be McCain's understudy.  Recall the public letter Powell wrote to McCain a year ago or so praising him on his stance against torture.  They are a marriage made in heaven.  

    I am conflicted (none / 0) (#50)
    by Judith on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 01:54:15 PM EST
    on it - see it and then dont.  Hmm, we'll see what happens.

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    Forgot to mention that (none / 0) (#51)
    by robrecht on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 02:42:18 PM EST
    Powell being black takes a lot of wind out of the Democrats' sails who had a woman and an AA as their leading contenders.  Also, the one context in which McCain's old age doesn't matter much is as the old war hero, nobody can criticize the greatest generation (I know wrong generation but he seems old enough), he's like General Eisenhower.  Even though Powell was the real general, his deference to old ironsides is like  that of a loyal aide-de-camp who man's the situation room while the old man takes his 3-hour nap every afternoon.  Nothing to worry about, old generals fade away but Petraeus will be ready to assume the vice presidency when needed.  After 16 years of pseudo-colonalism, W will finaly be rehabilitated as the geopolitical strategic genius and it won't matter any more.  I think I read this in a Kilgore Trout novel, before Kurt Vonegut passed away.

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    well (none / 0) (#52)
    by Judith on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 03:02:37 PM EST
    he is one of the few who has at least reied to scrape the poop off his shoes..but I still dont see it. Ywo war dogs cancel each other out. He needs somebody younger and with a different background, I think.  On the other hand, who the heck is out there who hasnt hung up his gloves? And I say his because I do not think he would pick a woman.

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    tried to scrape (none / 0) (#53)
    by Judith on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 03:03:04 PM EST
    sigh

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    The Pottery Barn Pair (none / 0) (#54)
    by robrecht on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 03:09:24 PM EST
    I see it like Clinton and Gore in 1992, two youngish southerners, defying conventional wisdom but making sense together because they reinforced the southern strategy and brought it to the fore.  The Republicans won't give up on Iraq, they can't, they'll try to make it their strong suit.  The Pottery Barn Pair.

    What do you mean about hanging up gloves?

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    you see it how? (none / 0) (#55)
    by Judith on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 03:18:51 PM EST
    are you kidding?  They bear absolutely no relation.  Woof.

    hanging up gloves - any Republican with any brains has gone south for the winter - hiding out - doing something else - removing themself from the field etc...

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    anyway (none / 0) (#56)
    by Judith on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 03:19:19 PM EST
    I have reached my end on this one so bye

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    Well it made sense to Kilgore Trout (none / 0) (#58)
    by robrecht on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 03:34:23 PM EST


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    McCain/Kondi (none / 0) (#59)
    by diogenes on Sun Jan 27, 2008 at 07:23:57 PM EST
    The republican base will vote for anyone over Hillary, so the VP really needs to pull in some swing voters, be they independents, blacks, or "I want a woman to be president but wish it wasn't Hillary" women.

    Comments Should Be About (none / 0) (#60)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:13:53 AM EST
    the topic of McCain and Condi and related matters. Put comments about Dem candidates on one of those threads. Thanks.

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