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    BTD (none / 0) (#1)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:03:22 AM EST
    Any good analysis on the Delegate counts and the Michigan and Florida delegates if it comes down to delegates? I heard a great speaker from Michigan about how they want the issue to be big so that they can clean up the Iowa New Hamphshire monopoly. I found it interesting and yet not much to read on the issue.

    a good (none / 0) (#12)
    by athyrio on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:59:59 AM EST
    endorsement from the "other Kennedy" that most of the MSM fail to mention.....

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    what I call (none / 0) (#14)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:04:58 PM EST
    "the good" Kennedy...(LOL)

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    I just clicked on the blog ad for (none / 0) (#2)
    by ding7777 on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:05:33 AM EST
    the new Washington Independent. Looks like it is more than just a blog...

    Blog
    Commentary
    Education
    Environment
    GLBT
    Health Care
    Law
    Money
    National Security
    Politics
    Religion
    Reproductive Rights
    Rights
    Science
    U.S.
    Women's Issues

    Good Luck to them!

    Thanks... (none / 0) (#23)
    by dutchfox on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:34:43 PM EST
    Hadn't noticed it. I should be more observant, I guess. I usually click on TL and look at the left side for the posts and comments!

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    Re: Bill Richardson (none / 0) (#3)
    by byteb on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:12:23 AM EST
    Does anyone have a prediction whom he will endorse?

    Richardson (none / 0) (#22)
    by TomStewart on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:32:50 PM EST
    Probably the person who will promise him a cabinet seat, or VP.

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    Obama/Richardson (none / 0) (#33)
    by byteb on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:53:41 PM EST
    has real possibilities.

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    Rezko: Bill Clinton is speaking at a (none / 0) (#4)
    by oculus on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:21:15 AM EST
    large fundraiser in Chicago today.  Suppose he'll drive by Obamas' house?

    Gosh (none / 0) (#8)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:29:57 AM EST
    they will let him speak? Imagine that.

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    It's Gore (none / 0) (#5)
    by Kathy on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:22:10 AM EST
    I am nervous about.  Will he be loyal, or will he be distracted by the shiny penny?  It's just amazing how easily folks have been persuaded to take their eye off the ball.  We are at war.  We are in the middle of a financial crisis.  We are being lied to by our own government.  We are being spied on by...omigod!  Did y'all see the McRib is back?!!!!  Gotta go!

    Well (5.00 / 2) (#6)
    by TheRealFrank on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:24:54 AM EST
    I think Gore is best off not endorsing anyone, as not being seen as politically involved is a definite bonus to his work right now.

    So I doubt he will. Also, the environmental parts of Obama's program are not the strongest in the bunch. The strongest would probably be Edwards, followed by Clinton, and then Obama.


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    As an Obama supporter (none / 0) (#32)
    by magster on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:51:06 PM EST
    I think he should not endorse.  I'd like him to have an open door into the WH if Clinton wins.  I'd like him to be EPA head or Sec'y of Interior frankly if he'd stoop to a demotion from the real President-Elect of 2000.

    If he does endorse Obama, I'd hope it comes at the price of Obama renouncing nuclear and coal unambiguously.

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    If Gore endorses Obama (none / 0) (#27)
    by magster on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:38:48 PM EST
    1/2 hour before Hillary's victory speech would be the time to announce.

    McCain got a lot of mileage with similar timing last Saturday.

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    When he ran (none / 0) (#29)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:41:45 PM EST
    Do you guys remember there was all the talk that Bill did not do enough for him and the "they did not want Bill around" where did that end up? If there is some baggage, but Gore does not seem like a revenge kind of guy.

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    I have issues. (none / 0) (#7)
    by scribe on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:28:57 AM EST
    Want to discuss them?

    </snark>

    Dr. Phill here... (none / 0) (#9)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:30:30 AM EST
    when did the issues start?

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    Dr. Phil, has the National Press Club called yet (none / 0) (#10)
    by Cream City on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:32:31 AM EST
    for that "intervention" for you to conduct with the media, as suggested by Craig Crawford?

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    Actually... (none / 0) (#11)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:40:17 AM EST
    that's a big job. I think we need to bring some drugs and some electro shock for these fellas.

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    First among my issues (none / 0) (#13)
    by scribe on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:01:24 PM EST
    is the fact that my computers are showing the site as skewed.

    Anyone care to tell me how to take a screenshot, so I can send it to TL and Colin The Scoop Guy?

    That should be a heck of a lot easier than pulling out the psychotropics, tiedowns, and electroshock machinery.  Though the computer might find the last of those useful....

    Screenshot..... (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by kdog on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:28:29 PM EST
    I'm only familar with the Elvis version....aim at screen and fire.

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    There are worse ideas. (none / 0) (#21)
    by scribe on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:32:23 PM EST
    Many, in fact.

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    For Mac (none / 0) (#15)
    by squeaky on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:05:02 PM EST
    Command/Shift/4

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    This is a Microsoft machine (none / 0) (#20)
    by scribe on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:32:02 PM EST
    I'm using.  

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    Thought So (none / 0) (#77)
    by squeaky on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 12:19:04 PM EST
    Maybe it is time to switch to Mac.

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    Hit Print Screen (on your keyboard) (none / 0) (#28)
    by echinopsia on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:40:56 PM EST
    and paste (Control V) into your email or document.

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    Thank you! (none / 0) (#34)
    by scribe on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:56:35 PM EST


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    insurgents vivisect SOTU (none / 0) (#16)
    by truggle45 on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:05:20 PM EST
    http://tshirtinsurgency.com/blog

    but no electroshocking as of yet.  But the afternoon is young.

    Firefox vs. Safari (none / 0) (#17)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:09:06 PM EST
    is it better to use firefox for here than Safari?

    Firefox (none / 0) (#25)
    by TomStewart on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:36:42 PM EST
    is what I use for my Mac, simply because I like the fact I can mess with it more, and customize it to suit me.

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    I've no issues with Safari here (none / 0) (#40)
    by Molly Bloom on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:03:06 PM EST


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    it never takes a link (none / 0) (#42)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:08:02 PM EST
    on the first try, I have to do it twice.

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    That's not been my experience (none / 0) (#46)
    by Molly Bloom on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:43:53 PM EST
    FWIW I am using an Intel Mac.

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    Nor Mine (none / 0) (#64)
    by squeaky on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 05:14:47 PM EST
    Safari works fine for me.

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    Will "Rezko's Driveway", the story (none / 0) (#19)
    by MarkL on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:31:41 PM EST
    of Rezko's million dollar gift to Obama, finally cause trouble for  him?
    One would hope it will knock him out NOW, rather than later, when he is the nominee.


    It seems (none / 0) (#26)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:38:31 PM EST
    with this kid of ethical , not a crime thing, people's eyes glaze over and thing: oh they all do it. That is the problem. But then something happens and this kind of what appears as a petty ethics they all do it thing, gets big and everyone pays attention. That is what I a terrified about when people think he is electable. September or October and BAM. We would be up a creek. Unless he has Hillary as the VP, then she can run as the Pres.

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    But it's his HOME (none / 0) (#39)
    by MarkL on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:01:03 PM EST
    What a horrible image for the President to have.

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    Maybe he should move, after the election (none / 0) (#73)
    by roy on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 06:57:55 PM EST
    To a big, white house.

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    this is a great endorsement (none / 0) (#24)
    by athyrio on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:35:46 PM EST
    as I love this lady and she has plenty of sense when it comes to people.....

    Wow... (none / 0) (#31)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:49:27 PM EST
    Maya...Angelou. Did she not read a poem in his inaugaration?

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    she sure did and she (none / 0) (#35)
    by athyrio on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:56:57 PM EST
    said that Oprah and her have had many conversations about this on the phone lol....This is a strong woman whose arm cannot be twisted...and she is a great admirer of Hillary...

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    She wrote a poem for Hillary too (none / 0) (#36)
    by echinopsia on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:02:54 PM EST
    Here.

    Warning to Hillary non-lovers - do not read this. Unless you're looking for an emetic.

    That said, I really like it as an antidote to the Obama-worship.

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    The Maya-Toni wars begin... (none / 0) (#37)
    by oldpro on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:19:38 PM EST
    Take that, Oprah...

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    Love the old woman line (5.00 / 0) (#38)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:42:20 PM EST
    in her poem. And bet your bottom dollar there are lots of us.

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    speaking of (none / 0) (#41)
    by athyrio on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:07:18 PM EST
    women another great endorsement for Hillary....

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    In the interview (none / 0) (#44)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:13:36 PM EST
    Dr. Angelou said: I go out with the one I came in with..(not direct quote)...

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    "I go out..." (none / 0) (#47)
    by Kathy on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:51:04 PM EST
    In other words, dance with the one that brung ya.

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    Maya is a great writer. (none / 0) (#45)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:15:43 PM EST
    This poem, however, does not do much to distinguish itself.

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    I need an emetic (none / 0) (#57)
    by jondee on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 04:11:20 PM EST
    every time I think about what her Walmart compatriots think passes for a living wage.

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    wow (none / 0) (#43)
    by Kathy on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:11:57 PM EST
    is right.  Thank you, Dr Angelou.

    And I'd like to remind y'all that Kennedy's endorsement yesterday, which took a swipe at Hillary in the process, was considered a typical endorsement.  I think this is the better way.  At least it seems like the adult way.

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    Gore has (none / 0) (#30)
    by athyrio on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:42:50 PM EST
    said he won't endorse this year....I sure hope he doesnt if all he is going to do is spout off the establishment lines....which is yeaaaa Obama our savior....

    Money Money Money Mooney (none / 0) (#48)
    by Jgarza on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:54:22 PM EST
    MOOONEEEY

    so Obama has raised 5 million online since Saturday

    The campaign:

    is ramping up his media buy in one of the most expensive markets: Los Angeles.


    ALSO: An audacious gambit: ads in New York City! (Actually, there are four heavily African-American congressional districts here, lots of young people, and lots of well-educated liberals -- all good Obama demographics.)
    You can buy the media and (none / 0) (#60)
    by athyrio on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 04:22:35 PM EST
    you can buy those politicians in Washington,but you cannot buy the American publics vote that easily....as proven by the latest polls that no matter what they throw at Hillary she is still ahead....Go HIllaryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!

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    who said anything (none / 0) (#63)
    by Jgarza on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 04:46:05 PM EST
    about buying anyone?

    as proven by the latest polls that no matter what they throw at Hillary

    so the votes don't matter, it is the polls?

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    Wow, Obama gets a little better (none / 0) (#72)
    by RalphB on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 06:21:13 PM EST
    he'll be the new Ron Paul  :-)

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    so (none / 0) (#74)
    by Jgarza on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 07:10:50 PM EST
    wait is he the establishment candidate or not.  get your story line straight.  ohh wait you just morph it depending on the news.  please spin some more.

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    So according (none / 0) (#49)
    by Jgarza on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 03:32:46 PM EST
    to Richardson, Obama saved him on a Katrina question.

    I guess this proves that Obama is a codl hearted person ready to use "race card" to destroy everyone.

    Apropos of nothing: (none / 0) (#50)
    by oculus on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 03:35:47 PM EST
    REZKO TO REMAIN IN CUSTODY

    Obama's Man: Axelrod (none / 0) (#51)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 03:36:36 PM EST
    I am fascinated by this guy. So I have been trying to read up on him. Here is a great New York Times : Axelrod.

    Pelosi on Ted's "passing the mantle": (none / 0) (#52)
    by oculus on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 03:51:01 PM EST
    PELOSI MESMERIZED

    Old (1.00 / 1) (#58)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 04:17:45 PM EST
    John Burton machine kind of gal.

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    I love (none / 0) (#54)
    by Jgarza on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 03:59:56 PM EST
    Nancy Pelosi, she should be president!

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    I think she's humming tunes from Camelot. (none / 0) (#55)
    by oculus on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 04:07:56 PM EST


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    she is a (none / 0) (#56)
    by Jgarza on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 04:10:51 PM EST
    a political dynasty in her own right.

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    Stellaaa (none / 0) (#53)
    by Kathy on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 03:52:00 PM EST
    I commend you on your linking abilities.  Very impressive.  Thanks for the info.  I have been wondering about that guy, too.

    Thank you.....!! (none / 0) (#59)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 04:18:21 PM EST
    Getting skills !!

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    Lotsa new posters here lately, for them: (none / 0) (#61)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 04:26:10 PM EST
    To link, with apologies if it's too basic:

    -highlight the URL of the web-page that you want to link to.

    -copy the URL ("edit" then "copy").

    -come back to TL and write something in your "Comment:" box.

    -highlight the word(s) in that comment that you want to be the link.

    -click the "URL" button above the "Comment:" box, it's the button that has
    an icon that looks like links of a chain. That brings up a link box, and your cursor is automatically in it.

    -hold down the "Ctrl" button on your computer's keyboard and then type "v". That copies the url into the link box.

    -click "OK."

    -click the "Preview" button below the "Comments:" box.

    -if the preview looks good - ie., the word(s) you selected to be the link
    are a different color from the rest of the text - click the "Post" button below the "Comments:" box.

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    Kathy... (none / 0) (#62)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 04:33:59 PM EST
    I kept thinking of Bush's brain, did you see the documentary. When the story s told and he wins, how will he lead? I bet it will be the Bush/Cheney model. Obama will be the front man and the VP will do the work. Cause, frankly, I think Obama, based on his experience is way, way beyond his league. We will have no press conferences either, just appearances.

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    Bush's Brain (none / 0) (#68)
    by Kathy on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 05:30:32 PM EST
    Yeah, I got it from Netflix but there was nothing on it.  Haha!  

    Seriously, I totally get what you are saying.  I heard that Obama won't even talk to the press when they are on the same plane.  I guess he needs his teleprompter?

    But, I am also wondering about Obama's Veep choice.  Dare I say it might be a Kennedy?

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    IS anyone else getting bombed with spam (none / 0) (#65)
    by scribe on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 05:17:10 PM EST
    and popups sort of like all the spam /popup filters just collapsed, or is it just me?

    I was reading a Seattle Times article linked through Raw Story and just started getting four and five popups for all sorts of stuff coming in every time I tried to scroll.  To me, anyway,  Raw Story is the worst popup offender of the sites I read (second being held by HuffPo), but this was a tsunami of 'em.  This was by far the worst ever....

    Don't You Have (none / 0) (#66)
    by squeaky on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 05:21:23 PM EST
    A pop-up blocker? I think I remember that you use a PC, there must be something for that. Safari for mac has it built in. I have never seen a pop up from huffpo or raw story. Must be your blocker went on strike, or eloped with a pop up.

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    Switch to Firefox (none / 0) (#76)
    by echinopsia on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 10:57:44 PM EST


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    Whoopi on The View discussing (none / 0) (#67)
    by athyrio on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 05:25:44 PM EST
    THE SNUB on you tube

    yep (none / 0) (#71)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 06:11:53 PM EST
    Whoopi calls it.

    God I am glad it cut off before that other woman spoke - her voice grates.

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    another media outlet (none / 0) (#69)
    by athyrio on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 06:00:01 PM EST
    talking about THE SNUB  Inside Edition

    Hysterical (none / 0) (#70)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 06:09:43 PM EST
    like listening to the reports on Charles and Di body language.  

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    Accountability questions for Bush & Cheney (none / 0) (#75)
    by ctrenta on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 07:10:54 PM EST

    So Dennis Kucinich has given up investigations into impeachment. What next to hold Bush & Cheney accountable?

    There's been much discussion on inherent contempt and it's been helpful. From what I understand, this is really geared towards Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten but is it possible to hold Bush & Cheney in contempt of Congress via this alternative? Can they to be jailed for not presenting information?

    On another note, is there even a remote chance to bring Bush & Cheney before war crime trials before the Hague after their presidency? That may be a stretch but citizens across the U.S. want accountability if there's no impeachment. What are the alternatives citizens can do to bring accountability on them that is legally binding and doable?

    Any answers would be greatly appreciated.

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