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Maxine Waters Endorses Hillary Clinton

This is a nice one for Hillary, especially after the charged South Carolina primary media coverage:
Defying the Nattering Nabobs of Negativism, Clinton scores the endorsement of symbolically and substantively potent superdelegate/California Representative Maxine Waters [D-CA).

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    Maxine...not the Wiki version (5.00 / 0) (#30)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:01:24 PM EST
    Look at her history, gee it was not on Wikipedia
    Prior to her election to the House of Representatives in 1990, Congresswoman Waters had already attracted national attention for her no-nonsense, no-holds-barred style of politics. During 14 years in the California State Assembly, she rose to the powerful position of Democratic Caucus Chair. She was responsible for some of the boldest legislation California has ever seen: the largest divestment of state pension funds from South Africa; landmark affirmative action legislation; the nation's first statewide Child Abuse Prevention Training Program; the prohibition of police strip searches for nonviolent misdemeanors; and the introduction of the nation's first plant closure law.
    bio

    I wonder (none / 0) (#44)
    by Kathy on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:16:40 PM EST
    if folks tweak wiki ahead of endorsements...

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    You mean her wiki entry might have been (none / 0) (#74)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 04:37:44 PM EST
    tweaked by her people to be "better" before she announced? Interesting...

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    very nice and timely (1.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:44:05 AM EST
    endorement.  Should be a nice buffer against any more ridiculous charges against Bill or HRC.  The word being "should".

    Yes (none / 0) (#20)
    by BDB on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:54:40 AM EST
    Waters, like all bomb throwers in Congress (that's a compliment, btw), is a mixed bag, but she is highly partisan and I admit I've grown more fond of her as I've gotten older.  And here I thought I was supposed to get more conservative as I aged.

    And I just spent the morning listening to CNN talk about how Bill Clinton is being kinder, gentler now after all that attacking he did in South Carolina.  Can someone remind me, other than the Jesse Jackson comparison that occurred after the primary, what exactly did Clinton say in SC that was such an attack on Obama?  I heard him attack the press, but they aren't the same thing (I know, I know).  

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    it's all crap (3.00 / 2) (#48)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:33:45 PM EST
    have a nice cuppa whatever and let it ride off you.  The media, for the most part,  needs stories to fill their space - they dont care about any fundamentals.  They can go to hell.

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    Could not (none / 0) (#49)
    by athyrio on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:46:13 PM EST
    agree with you more Judith....I am so amazed at all this.....but also deeply saddened...

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    yeah (none / 0) (#55)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:19:57 PM EST
    has become a tasteless joke

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    Heh (none / 0) (#51)
    by BDB on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:48:10 PM EST
    Awhile ago I read an observation, I think on Whiskey Fire, that people may want a change in the media just as much as they want other changes in D.C.  In other words, when voters think about D.C., they include the media and that Clinton's support is probably helped by this.  That she's kind of the ultimate way to say "screw you" to the media.  

    I am beginning to think that no one - or at least not Democrats - listens to anything the media says about either Clinton any more.  They've been getting hammered for the last couple of weeks and it hasn't had that much of an effect on either of them.  We'll see if a sustained pounding slowly hurts either of them, but I'm beginning to wonder.

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    it is obvious to me that (none / 0) (#52)
    by athyrio on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:52:30 PM EST
    the democrats in America still have a deep affection for Bill Clinton....No matter what they say....thank god cause I do too....and the democrats never quite bought into the hate Hillary thing that the rest of America loves to shout.....

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    Well...some Dems do... (none / 0) (#53)
    by oldpro on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:03:46 PM EST
    why do you think they recruited Obama?

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    like I said before (none / 0) (#57)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:23:19 PM EST
    I am sorry to repeat myself...the Kerry/Jenndy folks recruited him in 2004 becuase the thought they would win and be in the WH for at least 8 years...they had to speed Obama up since they lost so badly and had no one to replace Kerry but Obama.

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    I am speaking of the (none / 0) (#60)
    by athyrio on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:11:35 PM EST
    blue collar Dems not the elite part of the party...

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    no offense (none / 0) (#61)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:52:21 PM EST
    meant personally, but these labels of "elite"is how the GOP go after Democrats.  I think it sucks for us to use it on each other.  

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    was just (none / 0) (#65)
    by athyrio on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 03:08:13 PM EST
    going by the demographics so far that the people that are voting for Obama are by and large the top earners and the more educated...thats what I meant...

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    I know (none / 0) (#67)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 03:18:47 PM EST
    what you meant - so I didnt mean to give you a hard time.  

    Someone else on this blog called out someone as being a wine drinker Democrat -some kind of snide elitist thing. I am just talking out loud.

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    Is that the (none / 0) (#68)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 03:20:55 PM EST
    Latte Democrat? Still looking for soccer moms.

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    elitists (5.00 / 0) (#69)
    by Kathy on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 03:55:36 PM EST
    I think that the Obama folk (or maybe it's the media--I can't tell the diff) frame it that way: the well-educated, wealthy white dems who are his base...which implies that Hillary supporters must be the great unwashed.  It's the same sort of scheme that kicked Kerry in the behind.  It's also a very convenient excuse if you lose: the voters were too stupid to realize how great our guy was.  Bush et al exploited the hell out of this with Gore, and McCain will do it, too.

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    NO doubt (none / 0) (#62)
    by PlayInPeoria on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:55:10 PM EST
    some dems recruited Sen Obama because they were afraid, jealous (or any other FEELINGS you want to put here) of Sen Clinton.

    The fact that Sen Obama bought into this shows his inexperience in politics. Most Sen would know not to jumb to the Pres Champaign at such an early time in their career.

    He broke a promise to the people of IL that he would finish his term before running for president.

    Sen Obama may get the nomination... he may get the Presidency... and then again he may not. But in the end he is going to have to really on his limited time in politics.... and that may prove to be the Achilles heel.

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    It doesnt show inexperience (none / 0) (#63)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 03:03:58 PM EST
    It shows he knows when tio grab an opportunity.  How is that bad?

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    when it's called (4.00 / 0) (#64)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 03:06:32 PM EST
    Opportunism.

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    It is ONLY (none / 0) (#66)
    by PlayInPeoria on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 03:16:09 PM EST
    opportunity if it works... otherwise it is called a mistake. Future will tell. Why would he take a chance so early in is career?

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    Because the big boys (none / 0) (#70)
    by oldpro on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 04:04:39 PM EST
    offered it to him.  You don't think he went out an raised $100 million on his good looks & extensive resume do you?

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    nothing wrong (none / 0) (#75)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 04:38:40 PM EST
    with saying whh not now...I mean, you never know if you'll get the chance again.  The fault lies with the people who put a junior guy forward too soon.

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    they also figure they (none / 0) (#85)
    by athyrio on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 05:30:54 PM EST
    cannot control Hillary and they are all about control in washington....Even Bush last night walked up to Obama, and said "hello buddy"....

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    sadly (none / 0) (#56)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:21:32 PM EST
    there is no way to get away from it...the garbage seeps into your brain and fills up one of your short term memory slots. We are helpless agains tit unless we turn off the tube.  So I do.
    And I know better than to indulge in debate with idiots.

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    excellent observation! (none / 0) (#82)
    by hellothere on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 05:17:39 PM EST
    Two things (none / 0) (#50)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:46:58 PM EST
    What Clinton said. Then what the MSM and the Mainline Blogopundits say he meant. The dispute now is when he said it and what he said before. Clinton was having breakfast, on the way to the car reporters ask a whole bunch of questions. Two questions get asked: 1. Something like Kerry is telling you to be stop lying. Clinton answers: can you give specifics. This is a bait. 2. Question #2: Why does it take two of you to beat Senator Obama, Clinton says, that is another bait and Jessie Jackson won in 84 and 88, he ran a good campaign and so did Senator Obama. The allegation is that Clinton, purposefully smeared Obama by associating him with Jessie, he made Obama a "black candidate" This was my lesson in being fair. How did I do?

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    Good on Maxine! (none / 0) (#1)
    by Klio on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 10:59:00 AM EST
    And good for Hillary.  

    Have the nattering nabobs formed their own 4-H club yet?

    Wow (none / 0) (#2)
    by athyrio on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:01:37 AM EST
    The state run media didnt get to her with the Kool-aide yet....Good for Maxine....a tough and admirable lady...

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    Ok reality check (none / 0) (#3)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:04:43 AM EST
    Who is more anti establishment;;; Maxine or Ted. I still remember her first speech in the Convention. I love her. Talk about keeping it real.

    You love her? (none / 0) (#7)
    by HeadScratcher on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:21:01 AM EST
    She was named by CREW (headed by Democrats) as one of the 20 most corrupt members of congress!

    She was an apologists for the thugs who nearly beat Reginald Denny to death at the start of the L.A. riots.

    And, here's the kicker, President Clinton appointed her husband as an Ambassador - I'm sure there are no connections...

    I, who grew up in Los Angeles, absolutely hate this woman...so that's my bias

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    Isn't Maxine kind of the female, West Coast (none / 0) (#8)
    by oculus on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:23:42 AM EST
    counterpart to Jess and Rev. Al?

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    Perhaps you missed the memo (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by Steve M on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:15:08 PM EST
    We are not allowed to compare other black politicians to Jesse Jackson.

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    Ha. (none / 0) (#58)
    by oculus on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:51:08 PM EST
    Yep I love her (none / 0) (#9)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:23:51 AM EST
    She never sold out South Central. She stood up for AA people and did not defend Rezko. By the way, she can orate Obama under the table.

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    Please do not make false statements (none / 0) (#11)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:27:26 AM EST
    Maxine Waters was NOt an apologist for the criminals who beatup Reginald Denny.

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    Sure she was, (none / 0) (#21)
    by HeadScratcher on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:54:48 AM EST
    An apologist, to me, is someone who makes excuses for bad behavior.

    She called the L.A. riots a revolution. She explained that the four men who nearly beat Reginald Denny to death had "justifiable anger".

    To me, that's an apolgist.

    She speaks her mind and fights for what she believes. I'm not saying she has no right, nor am I saying that she is always wrong. I'm just saying that I loathe her. It's an opinion.

    Burn baby burn!!!

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    Well (none / 0) (#27)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:00:29 PM EST
    I thought you meant she argued it was not a crime.

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    As for CREW (none / 0) (#13)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:28:13 AM EST
    I do not know what they said, but I, unlike most peope on my side, have always thought poorly of them.

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    interesting (none / 0) (#15)
    by Klio on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:33:59 AM EST
    why is that?  

    [sincere inquiry]

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    Because they conflate (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:35:51 AM EST
    real corruption with the problems with the existing laws.

    They are for unilateral disarmamanet by Dems on campaign finance.

    I dislike Fred Wertheimer too.

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    So (none / 0) (#23)
    by HeadScratcher on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:55:47 AM EST
    Maxine Waters ethical lapses in connection with her kids aren't a concern to you?

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    Nope (none / 0) (#26)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:59:46 AM EST
    I find all the histrionics absurd when money is such a corrupting influence in politics.

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    Don't know too much about Waters but. . . (none / 0) (#19)
    by LarryInNYC on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:45:13 AM EST
    corrupt inner city pols?  Probably not an accusation Obama supporters want to be highlighting in the lead-up to the Rezko trial.

    Just sayin'

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    Ok reality check (none / 0) (#4)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:04:59 AM EST
    Who is more anti establishment;;; Maxine or Ted. I still remember her first speech in the Convention. I love her. Talk about keeping it real.

    Good (none / 0) (#5)
    by bob h on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:13:21 AM EST
    The endless coverage and deconstruction of the Obama-Kennedy endorsement was getting to be a little over the top (NPR particularly).

    Re Florida:  If 500,000+ Democratic Floridians go to the polls to cast votes today, is that significant?
    If they pick Hillary by a good margin, is that not significant, too?

    Bob (none / 0) (#6)
    by athyrio on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:20:20 AM EST
    yes it is, but someone forgot to tell our corporately controlled media that drunk the Kool-aide for Obama....The American peoples votes apparently only exist to be manipulated...Hooray for Maxine as she has always been an admirable and gutsy lady....

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    Ridiculous (none / 0) (#12)
    by horseloverfat on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:28:09 AM EST
    I actually find the image of them up on that stage off-putting.  And I remember JFK, I can't see any similarity to BO.

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    I like to watch the old (none / 0) (#17)
    by Judith on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:42:28 AM EST
    clips of him at news conference for the Q&A - he had a quick wit.  Very enjoyable.

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    Bill Clinton: I knew JFK, and you, (none / 0) (#29)
    by oculus on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:01:20 PM EST
    Mr. Obama, are no JFK.  

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    except ,of course, Bill didn't know JFK (none / 0) (#34)
    by byteb on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:06:22 PM EST
    Well, not technically, (none / 0) (#35)
    by oculus on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:07:50 PM EST
    but remember that photo of the teenage Bill Clinton in the Rose Garden?  

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    But Bill Clinton knew (none / 0) (#37)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:11:10 PM EST
    Jessie Jackson, and you sir are no Jessie Jackson.

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    the kennedy endorsement just shows (none / 0) (#80)
    by hellothere on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 05:14:36 PM EST
    anyone can jump the shark. i started to say day two, kennedy endorsed who? i personally think this oh so important endorsement is as about as important as yesterday's newspaper.

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    wow! (none / 0) (#10)
    by xjt on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:26:03 AM EST
    Maxine Waters has a lot of political influence in Southern California. She is very well known and quite popular locally. Good for her.

    Wingnuts (none / 0) (#14)
    by horseloverfat on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:30:44 AM EST
    hate her as much as HRC.  Probably for similar reasons.

    maxine gave the house thugs hell (5.00 / 0) (#81)
    by hellothere on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 05:15:38 PM EST
    when they were after clinton about ole monica. i enjoyed that.

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    From Wiki: (none / 0) (#22)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:55:11 AM EST
    Controversies

    Waters was named in 2005[4] and 2006[5] as one of the "most corrupt" members of congress by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.

    They said, "Her ethics issues arise from her exercise of this power to financially benefit her daughter, husband and son."

    They said that Waters' daughter Karen charges other politicians to appear on mailers sent to constituents in Los Angeles showing her mother's support for the politician.

    Karen has received $450,000 in fees from this endeavor and Waters' son Edward has received $115,000.

    Waters' husband Sidney benefited from his wife's connections with his hiring as a political consultant by a firm, Siebert, Brandford, & Shank, seeking government investment.

    Sidney Williams earned $500,000 from this consulting, which consisted of introducing Siebert to politicians his wife had supported.

    Sidney and Edward Williams also benefitted when they won a contract to run a Los Angeles golf course, with the decision made by a county supervisor who had won a close race after Waters' endorsement and from which they made financial gain of between $140,000 and $400,000.[6]

    Citizens for Ethics says this violates House ethics rules for family members' financial gains.

    She's also a staunch supporter of the WOD.

    so, if that's true, (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by cpinva on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:01:40 PM EST
    how come she hasn't been brought up on ethics violations charges, before the house ethics committee yet? up until 2006, it was a republican congress, certainly they'd have had no qualms about filing complaints against her.

    which causes me to conclude that CREW is full of itself.

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    co sponsored (5.00 / 0) (#33)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:03:33 PM EST
    Impeach Cheney bill. Did Obama do that in the Senate?

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    Dunno, maybe she made a deal? (none / 0) (#76)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 04:40:15 PM EST
    Scorched earth. . . (5.00 / 0) (#39)
    by LarryInNYC on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:15:06 PM EST
    she transgressed the unwritten law (endorsing Clinton) -- she must be destroyed.

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    Katrina (5.00 / 0) (#45)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:17:13 PM EST
    She was there when Ted was in Hyannis.

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    LOL Larry!! (none / 0) (#43)
    by athyrio on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:16:21 PM EST
    which (none / 0) (#46)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:17:56 PM EST
    BTD rule was this one?

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    Perfect example of CREW's hystrionics (none / 0) (#25)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:58:29 AM EST
    South Central (none / 0) (#24)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:57:04 AM EST
    Maxine was there. Maxine never minces her words. She did not forget the struggles of the 60's and 70's. She does not pretend she is transcending. She loves politics, she lives it. I am curious if we can find a video of her speech on the democratic convention. Why wikipedia is dangerous: the only thing they have a paragraph her is the Crew thing, Yet, look at her scorecard labor etc. She cosponsored the impeach Cheney bill.

    "influence" (none / 0) (#28)
    by diogenes on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:00:53 PM EST
    Sounds like Maxine Waters is someone who white Democrats would hate, so her endorsement of Hillary might actually help Obama in California with that demograsphic.
     

    Most whites (none / 0) (#32)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:02:24 PM EST
    don't know her. But AA and Hispanics do. Anyway, party faithfulls like me lover her. Us Baby boomers love her of all races.

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    "influence" (none / 0) (#78)
    by SoCalDem on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 04:58:31 PM EST
    Maxine Waters is someone that this white woman respects and holds in high esteem. I doubt that her endorsing Hillary will make anyone white or black vote for Obama. Where do you live?? In fact I don't think that Ted Kennedy endorsing Obama will help in Cali either, especially since Bobby Kennedy's family have endorsed Hillary. I don't support either one,but I do support Maxine!!

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    thats the problem (none / 0) (#36)
    by athyrio on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:10:40 PM EST
    with some of the younger members of the democratic party...they will believe everything they read and instead WE LIVED THRU IT....The wingnuts are great at planting anti stuff about people they don't like....that is their modus operandi...they try to make sure the "whisper campaign" is effective...Like for Hillary...They have been whispering about her for years....Fortunately, the American people don't agree so far according to the polls...

    that is a strong argument for (none / 0) (#83)
    by hellothere on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 05:21:03 PM EST
    increasing the support for our schools. i don't mean throwing money at them either or that pathetic bill and teddy and bushie put into nonaction. as a former teacher i have strong opinions about these things.we so need to teach our young to think critically.

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    From Congresspedia: (none / 0) (#38)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:11:46 PM EST
    Prior to the election of "superstar" Senator Barack Obama (D-Illinois), Waters was considered the United States' most prominent African-American legislator.
    Read into that waht you will.
    Waters has long been considered one of the last great practitioners of urban "machine politics."
    A political machine is an unofficial system of a political organization based on patronage, the spoils system, "behind-the-scenes" control, and longstanding political ties within the structure of a representative democracy. [...]

    The key to a political machine is patronage: holding public office implies the ability to do favors (and also the ability to profit from Political corruption).



    Most prominent? (none / 0) (#41)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:15:55 PM EST
    That is a stretch.

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    A celebrity? (none / 0) (#54)
    by oldpro on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:08:52 PM EST
    Well known for being well known...

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    Wow... (none / 0) (#42)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:16:18 PM EST
    Obama is not part of the Chicago machine? Look, it's politics, when urban people do it it's a machine, when others do it, it's a way of life.

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    It's funny (none / 0) (#47)
    by andgarden on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:19:23 PM EST
    My Republican friends accuse her of essentially being a traitor and sharing intelligence with Castro.

    She's great on the war.

    Another ringing endorsement (none / 0) (#59)
    by jen on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:10:52 PM EST
    by the Kennedy family in today's LATimes:

    Kennedys for Clinton

    "Some" Kennedys (none / 0) (#72)
    by oldpro on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 04:10:02 PM EST
    for Clinton...

    Oh well.....dead horse...

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    Anti-war? (none / 0) (#71)
    by G Davis on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 04:09:47 PM EST
    I thought Waters was staunchly anti war?  

    Re: (none / 0) (#73)
    by Steve M on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 04:30:37 PM EST
    She is.  Interestingly, of the 8 founding members of the Out of Iraq Caucus, 4 are with Clinton (Maxine Waters, Lynn Woolsey, Charlie Rangel, John Lewis) and the other 4 are with Obama (John Conyers, William Delahunt, Jan Schakowsky, Barbara Lee).

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    Votes (none / 0) (#77)
    by G Davis on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 04:42:33 PM EST
    How many of those voted for the Iraq resolution AND the Iran resolution?


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    Re: (none / 0) (#79)
    by Steve M on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 04:59:17 PM EST
    The House didn't vote on the Kyl-Lieberman thing.

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    Sorry... (none / 0) (#87)
    by G Davis on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:39:17 PM EST
    I didn't mean Kyl-Liebs.  The House had it's own Iran statement back in November:
    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:HE00435:@@@L&summ2=m&

    I seriously hate all this saber rattling and am surprised at supposed anti-war people backing more hawkish ones.

    I would have thought Waters would have backed Kucinich or no one from the stances I've seen her take on the war.

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    Michelle Obama and memories of Hillary Clinton as (none / 0) (#84)
    by alto1994 on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 05:29:10 PM EST
     a Candidate's spouse.  There seems to be a long standing bias against Hillary Clinton when we see the "free pass" Michelle Obama seems to be getting from the media.  It's frustating to recall the antipathy toward Hillary Clinton 16-17 years ago.  Perhaps things have changed over the years in the way we look at political spouses but, I don't think so. So, my question is, why isn't the media focused on her as they have other political spouses - and as they famously did back in the early 90's.

    I happen to be a fan of Hillary Clinton's personal style but don't appreciate Michelle Obama's edginess (though I respect her right to support her husband's candidacy vigorously.  But where's the scrutiny?).  When she said a few weeks ago, in what seemed like the height of arrogance, that they won't be available 4 or 8 years from now - meaning "vote for us now - this is your only chance."  Even when Obama tried to explain her remarks later as "well now, we can relate to the middle class experience, but in a few years we might be operating in the economic stratosphere (my quotation marks btw).

    Returning to Hillary Clinton - This is a woman who has had to deal with so many unfair attacks and has been able to keep on going - experienced, talented, brilliant and thoughtful.  I can't wait to cast my vote for her in Massachusetts on Feb. 5th.

     

    Cornell West on Obama (none / 0) (#86)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 06:00:45 PM EST
    I was trying to make make of these points, ineptly. But listen to Mr. West say it like I feel it. Don't know how old this is, but he makes some great points: Cornell West on Youtube

    Who cares???? (none / 0) (#88)
    by burnedoutdem on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 08:37:17 AM EST
    More importantly, why hasn't this blog - which is supposed to talk about legal issues - mentioned that Gitmo lawyers are endorsing Obama?