First 17 Votes Counted in New Hampshire: Obama and McCain Win

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 01:05:00 AM EST
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Update 12:05 am ET: The votes are in.

1 Giuiliani
4 McCain
2 Romney
0 Huckabee

2 Edwards
1 Richardson
7 Obama
0 Clinton

Update: There was only two registered Democrats voting. The Independents at work:

In Dixville this year, there were three registered Republicans, two Democrats - one of whom registered Monday - and 12 who were undeclared. Hart's Location had eight Democrats, eight Republicans and 13 undeclared.

Update: Hart's Location results are also in:

In Hart's Location, Democrat Obama received nine votes, Hillary Rodham Clinton received three and John Edwards received one. Among Republicans, McCain received six, Mike Huckabee received five, Ron Paul received four and Mitt Romney one.

Hart's location had 8 Democrats, 8 Republicans and 13 Independents.

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Original Post Below: New Hampshire: First Voting Begins at Midnight Tonight

This is the Balsams Grand Resort in Dixville, Notch New Hampshire. Voting opens there tonight at midnight. In 2004, as is the tradition there, the town's 26 voters showed up right at midnight to vote. The polls closed a few minutes later. The state election law allows closure once all the town's voters have voted.

Who won there in 2004? Wesley Clark. When the state's entire votes were counted, John Kerry won and Howard Dean came in second. John Edwards and Wesley Clark were behind them.

In 2004, New Hampshire voters at exit polls said health care was the most important issue, that electability was a bigger factor than issues, and that John Kerry's experience was important to them.

Of the 33 percent in exit polls who said a candidate's electability was more important to them than the issues, more than half favored Kerry. His experience was also cited as a factor by many voters, according to the exit polls.

The exit polls indicated health care was the top issue on the minds of voters surveyed Tuesday morning. Twenty-six percent of respondents said health care and Medicare were the biggest factors in their votes.

200,000 voters, a record number, turned out for the 2004 Democratic primary in New Hampshire, despite below freezing temperatures.

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First 17 Votes Counted in New Hampshire: Obama and McCain Win | 20 comments (20 topical)

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Hillary's stand on criminal's rights (5.00 / 1) (#4)
by GV on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 11:25:24 PM EST

Jeralyn, I saw you mentioned in the comment's of another thread that your opposition to Obama centers on the fact that he'd be "bad" for your clients. I'm curious what your thoughts are on Hillary's decision to go after Obama recently for being too "liberal" for opposing mandatory minimums? And do you think that Hillary is much different from her husband with respect to criminal rights; Bill, as you know, was very pro-death penalty and signed into law the AEDPA.

She didn't go after him on that (none / 0) (#6)
by Jeralyn on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 11:32:46 PM EST

the reporter said unnamed campaign aides told her that. Here's what Hillary said at the third debate this June -- that's her position.

Number one, we do have to go after racial profiling. I've supported legislation to try to tackle that.
Number two, we have to go after mandatory minimums. You know, mandatory sentences for certain violent crimes may be appropriate, but it has been too widely used. And it is using now a discriminatory impact.
Three, we need diversion, like drug courts. Non-violent offenders should not be serving hard time in our prisons. They need to be diverted from our prison system. (Applause.)
We need to make sure that we do deal with the distinction between crack and powder cocaine. And ultimately we need an attorney general and a system of justice that truly does treat people equally, and that has not happened under this administration. (Applause.)

The question (none / 0) (#10)
by Rojas on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 12:51:43 AM EST

According to FBI data, blacks were roughly 29 percent of persons arrested in this country between 1996 and 2005. Whites were 70 percent of people arrested during this period. Yet at the end of this 10-year period, whites were 40 percent of those who were inmates in this country, and blacks were approximately 38 percent. What does this data suggest to you?

and her ultimate answer

And ultimately we need an attorney general and a system of justice that truly does treat people equally, and that has not happened under this administration.

The problem with this answer is that ther was not some demographic shift during the bush administration. This is the system her and bill built. Her answer is a lie. Her failure to admit any fault, even the slightest reponsibility is a character flaw.


She didn't lie (none / 0) (#11)
by Jeralyn on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 12:57:33 AM EST

She supported the End to Racial Profiling Act of 2001 just like she said. One quote:

I am so proud that we are all here together, on the same side, citizens, officers of the law, members of both political parties, to say that racial profiling is wrong and must end.

: The cows are out of the barn at that point (none / 0) (#20)
by Rojas on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 08:45:13 AM EST

The question was about Arrest vs Prison population.
I recomend reading this
www.post-gazette.com/win/
To get and idea about clintons approach to justice.

Re: (none / 0) (#19)
by GV on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 07:52:09 AM EST

The "unnamed" aide was widely quoted and Hillary never denied it. Her quote is also entirely consistent with what you just posted. She also came out against making the crack amendment retroactive. I just have a hard time believing that anyone would think that Hillary Clinton would be want a more humane criminal justice system than Obama.


Civil Rights (none / 0) (#8)
by Rojas on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 11:39:01 PM EST

Judging from the pictures... (none / 0) (#1)
by desertswine on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 02:27:21 PM EST

and scanning their web site, that is a really beautiful hotel.

: It is beautiful (none / 0) (#2)
by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 05:49:43 PM EST

At one time was the home of the annual Northeast telephone association meeting, don't know about now.
The town's other claim to fame was that it had prophylactic factory. Seeing as how the subject is politics the connection seems obvious.

Shouldn't the votes have been counted by now? (none / 0) (#3)
by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 09:56:48 PM EST

JGarza (none / 0) (#7)
by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 11:34:36 PM EST

I am deleting your comment and I warn you that I will recommend Jeralyn ban you if you can not control yourself.

I have already said I will stop insults of you.

You insist on insulting Jeralyn.

That is unacceptable.

I did not mean (none / 0) (#17)
by Jgarza on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 03:07:54 AM EST

to insult anyone. I certainly am angry, so i will make the point that is making me angry and leave it at that.

BTD Jeralyn, you are not the New York Times, you don't have readership in the Millions, nor do you have as much influence. none the less you do have influence, and once you publish something it is for ever in cyberspace for anyone to read.

So the narrative of an Obama win (which at this point seems likely) you creat will effect the CW narrative.

If you help create a narrative that Obama won because the Media hates Hillary, and democrats are sexist, you have done democrats a great disservice, and made us weaker in a general.

Certainly you dont have to go as far as saying that he is a better candidate, or had a better message.

The fact of the matter is Obama turned out HUGE amounts of people who belong to a voting block that no one thought could be turned out. The majority of his bounce is coming from increased electability appeal.

Certainly there are a number of of other factors, one of which you claim is media bias. Thats is fine but to deny the above reason, is truly a disservice to democrats.

Nothing would be more damaging for democrats then to go in to a general with the narrative that Obama beat Hillary because America is sexist and media is even more sexist.

It's equally terrible counter line is, Obama won because Hillary is so awful. I invite you to call me on it if I'm making that argument. We can all go to far.


: I have already asked that you be banned (none / 0) (#18)
by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 07:20:20 AM EST

Romney didn't do too well (none / 0) (#9)
by Maryb2004 on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 11:52:12 PM EST

2 votes in Dixville Notch and only 1 vote in Hart's Location. But Huckabee gave McCain a run for the money in Hart's Location getting 5 votes to McCain's 6. If the Huckster gets a somewhat decent showing in NH before he heads on to win the Southern Evangelicals we'll see some panic. :)

: If I recall correctly (none / 0) (#15)
by Jgarza on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 02:41:48 AM EST

This first vote has has a terrible reputation for calling things correctly.

Old Dog Learns New Tricks (none / 0) (#12)
by RockyMtMan on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 01:57:35 AM EST

I'm here to say that I am ashamed that voted for George "Dubya" Bush, not once, but twice.

I'm not sure if he's just an idiot puppet manipulated by the players behind the scenes or that he's complicit in the Nazification of our country.

I took one of those online political questionaires recently only to discover that I am liberally minded, so I did some searching and found the most liberal candidate.

He believes in liberty, votes for liberty, and sponsors bills that support liberty.

-Remove our overseas bases.
-Secure our borders.
-Remove the government from education.
-Eliminate the (illegal) Federal Income Tax.
-Less Federal government control/mandates.
-States and individuals given more rights.
-Money based on gold/silver instead of printed out of thin air.
-Free trade and relations with all nations.

I may not be sure about Dubya, but what I am sure of is that this guys is the real deal. The man has consistently held to his principles for 10 terms in Congress

If any of that appeals to you, I appeal to you to check him out like I did. It's well worth it.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/about/

Hal? (5.00 / 1) (#13)
by oculus on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 02:05:21 AM EST

Please fix your link (5.00 / 1) (#14)
by hhex65 on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 02:26:31 AM EST

currently redirects to Jefferson Davis '61 campaign website.


: lol (none / 0) (#16)
by Jgarza on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 02:43:27 AM EST

I'm equally ashamed.... (none / 0) (#21)
by kdog on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 10:28:47 AM EST

to have voted for Clinton in '96 and Kerry in '04. (Proud of my 2000 Nader vote.)

I'm suprised Paul didn't get a least a vote...you would think he'd be big up in "live free or die" country.

Liberty is the only issue...any and everything else is gravy.
