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Siegelman's Best Argument?

These are not the words Don Siegelman's appellate lawyer wanted to hear during Tuesday's oral argument:

“I don’t think that’s going to be your best argument today,” Judge Edmondson said.

You never know the content of a judge's thought bubble, or whether the judge is speaking for any other member of the panel. Still, "that's not your best argument" doesn't usually permit the optimistic reading that Siegelman's lawyer hopes to give it.

“I think it’s absolutely ambiguous as to whether it means, ‘I’m not convinced,’ or, ‘You’ve already got me, don’t worry,’ ” [Sam] Heldman said afterward.

"I'm not convinced" would be the most benign interpretation of a phrase that is often taken to mean "You can't convince me." [more ...]

During my first Supreme Court argument, Justice O'Connor asked me: "Is that the best statutory argument you've got? Because if it is, I think you should move along to your constitutional argument." I moved along.

Sometimes the disparaged argument, if not the best, is at least the most important. That's true in Siegelman's case because the argument -- that the evidence does not support his convictions of bribery, conspiracy, and mail fraud -- if accepted would nullify those convictions and end his prosecution.

The appellate advocate, ever hopeful that the other judges on the panel will be more agreeable, might hope to engage them with a snappy, "If it's not my best argument it's still an argument that has great merit and this is why" followed by a two sentence summation of the argument. This means: "If it's not my best argument it's the only one that gets my client completely off the hook so it's the one I want to talk about." Judges know this.

In rare cases, the advocate will make it through the two sentence summation and another judge will ask a question that leads the advocate more deeply into the preferred argument. In most cases, the other judges defer to their disagreeable colleague as he or she seizes control and redirects the argument.

[W]hen ... Heldman tried to bring up his main argument — that prosecutors failed to prove there was an explicit agreement, or a quid pro quo, between Mr. Siegelman and Mr. Scrushy — he was cut off by the chief judge, J. L. Edmondson. ...

At the opening of the hearing, Judge Edmondson quickly steered Mr. Heldman toward the lesser element in Mr. Siegelman’s conviction, what government prosecutors contend was the covering up of a “corrupt payment” of $9,200 from a supporter through a series of “sham check transactions.” The government said this was obstruction of justice; Mr. Siegelman’s lawyers claim it never occurred.

Siegelman might be able to take some comfort from this:

One of the judges, James C. Hill, seemed to find it interesting that the only evidence for bribery was an ambiguous conversation between Mr. Siegelman and his former aide, Nick Bailey, about Mr. Scrushy’s contribution.

Mr. Bailey testified that he said, “What in the world is he going to want for that?” referring to the first part of Mr. Scrushy’s $500,000 contribution. Mr. Siegelman is said to have replied, “the CON board,” referring to the state Certificate of Need board, which approves hospital projects.

“That may be his best argument,” said Judge Hill, referring to Mr. Siegelman.

Another Siegelman lawyer, Vince Kilborn, said the comment indicated that the judges were struggling to decide whether there was enough circumstantial evidence to convict Mr. Siegelman on a possible quid pro quo.

Siegelman's appeal raises a number of interesting issues, including the claim that increasing his sentence "based on out-of-court statements on matters of grave concern" violated his First Amendment rights. Convincing the court of the government's failure to present solid evidence of a bribe would be Siegelman's home run. It can't be comforting to know that a panel member spoke dismissively of that argument.

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    Chief Judge Edmonson ... (none / 0) (#1)
    by Peter G on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 09:35:32 PM EST
    seems to speak his true thoughts quite openly at oral argument, more than most judges.  At least this was my take based on a recent argument in which I participated in that Court, where he presided. It is more common for judges to ask questions or make comments designed to elicit the lawyers' analysis of the more difficult aspects of the case, rather than to signal their own tentative (or even settled) views.  

    Nice spinning fby the attorney (none / 0) (#2)
    by oculus on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 09:59:18 PM EST
    for public consumption to try and save face after the argument.  But it sure doesn't pass the straight face test.

    Thanks TChris (none / 0) (#3)
    by andgarden on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 10:15:07 PM EST
    This post is a highlight.

    Good post Chris (none / 0) (#4)
    by Steve M on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 10:44:06 PM EST
    Very interesting!

    Non lawyer here (none / 0) (#5)
    by NYShooter on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 10:54:49 PM EST
    I thought the oral arguments were primarily show; the decisions are made via the briefs.

    Is this court different?

    Oral argument of a federal appeal (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Peter G on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 11:30:31 PM EST
    is not primarily "show," although the great majority of judges and lawyers would agree that in most cases the briefs are more important.  The function of oral argument (granted in only a small percentage of 11th Circuit appeals, by the way, while some other Circuits allow it much more frequently) is to provide an opportunity for the judges to seek clarification of the parties' positions, by asking penetrating or challenging questions after reading the briefs.  Sometimes, the judges will ask a lawyer to answer a point made in the other party's brief but not adequately addressed in their own. Sometimes, it's to elaborate on the implications of the rule the party is seeking, were it applied in the future as a precedent.  Sometimes, it seems that one judge is using the lawyers as a sounding board (or like a handball court) to bounce questions off that are aimed at changing the mind of another judge on the panel (the judges sit in threes on these appeals).  And sometimes, argument seems to be granted for the purpose of giving the lawyer a final chance to muster a better argument than the lame effort presented in the brief.  

    In any event, after oral argument, the judges do not announce their decision.  They retire to a private conference where they discuss the case among themselves, reach a tentative decision, and then assign the case to one judge to write an opinion explaining that decision.  When the opinion has been drafted and circulated, and has received at least two votes for release (although the vast majority turn out unanimous) it will be published as an opinion of the court -- a process that normally takes from six weeks to six months.

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    My goodness (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by NYShooter on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 12:06:18 AM EST
    Thank you so very much, Peter.

    My only knowledge of appeals courts is as a client. My attorneys, and the opposition's, treat it as a day off, "Buford plays hooky;" bill a cool $2500, and sometime even travel to the proceeding together. I've even been in the office as the two attorneys are discussing whether it's worth going, or simply decline. Usually the one with the weaker case feels, for post decision justification, "we did all we could," purposes.

    At least that's how it's done in NY...........The Empire State.  

    I like your explanation, and jurisdiction better.


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    No bench memo in federal (none / 0) (#7)
    by oculus on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 11:44:09 PM EST
    Courts of Appeal?

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    Sure, each judge (none / 0) (#8)
    by Peter G on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 11:53:06 PM EST
    comes to argument with a bench memo on the case, prepared by his/her law clerks.  Given the memos, the judges may even have skimped somewhat on their own brief-reading before taking the bench.  In addition to summarizing the parties' written arguments, the memo may also suggest questions to ask the lawyers at argument.  I don't understand why you were thinking my description of oral argument would be inconsistent with that.  The key thing, frequently not understood, is that the three judges traditionally have not conferred with one another about the case prior to argument, only with their own research staff (young lawyers referred to as "clerks").

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    I'm thinking of the state court of (none / 0) (#10)
    by oculus on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 12:10:48 AM EST
    appeal in which I clerked many years ago.  One judge was assigned to draft the bench memo,  That judge then assigned the task to one of his research attorneys.  Once the draft memo was finished, reviewed by the assigned judge, etc., it was provided to each member of the panel prior to oral argument.  Judges were responsible for devising their own questions to the lawyers.  

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