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Tonight's Media Coverage of the Pennsylvania Primary

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:41:34 PM EST
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Polls close in Pennsylvania in 80 minutes. The cable news networks have begun their evening media coverage. We'll have several threads going, but here's one to post your comments about the media coverage of the results. We'll close each thread when comments reach 200.

Who's the biggest Horses As*? Who did you like?

What networks are you watching? I'm watching whichever has an anchor talking. As soon as they go to pundits, I change the channel.

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    I am relegated (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by rooge04 on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:44:27 PM EST
    to watching Fox.  William Kristol is being more fair to Hillary than KO has ever been.

    isn't it odd (none / 0) (#36)
    by boredmpa on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:09:11 PM EST
    That I'd rather read Kristol or David Brooks (sorry to group you with kristol) than the sunday times Frank Rich/Dowd combo.

    At least there's some variety with Kristol.  So I have to say CDS pundits win at being the biggest losers in this election.  And people like kristol actually win for having a wee bit of restraint.

    ^^ If i ever run for public office, i hope noone finds this identity lol.

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    Matthews, Gloria and Donna Brazile (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Salt on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:46:03 PM EST


    What.... (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:46:59 PM EST
    horrible thing did you do today that you have to punish yourself like that?

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    sad to say (5.00 / 3) (#7)
    by Turkana on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:49:43 PM EST
    but borger's the least worst of the three. she hates all democrats equally.

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    AND THE inane Russert (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by Salt on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:09:22 PM EST
    dont ya know he knows there is a group of SD concentrating on tonight, what an arse.

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    just watched (5.00 / 1) (#85)
    by cpinva on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:44:00 PM EST
    donna brazile on cnn with lou dobbs. once again, she claimed, as did dobbs, that she's neutral still. clearly a tortured distortion of the facts.

    i really wanted to reach out, reach out and beat someone!

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    Presume that's the equine patootie question (none / 0) (#6)
    by Cream City on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:48:46 PM EST
    you've answered, not the whatchawatching question.:-)  That is, unless you're taking this one for the team to tell us how stooopid MSNBC is again.

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    hunting and pecking (none / 0) (#70)
    by Salt on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:28:12 PM EST


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    they're almost uniformly (5.00 / 4) (#4)
    by Turkana on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:47:07 PM EST
    terrible. i miss bernie shaw.

    Yes (5.00 / 2) (#17)
    by Steve M on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:57:02 PM EST
    CNN has fallen so far since their glory days.  I hope tonight's election coverage doesn't get preempted by a missing white woman or an I-report of a car crash in Oklahoma.

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    i'm surprised they're not all over (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by Turkana on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:00:08 PM EST
    the ufos in phoenix.

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    hehe.... (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:05:31 PM EST
    I heard that last night that even the mayor there saw them.  

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    You know the media is REALLY bad (5.00 / 2) (#38)
    by ghost2 on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:09:24 PM EST
    when Jeralyn has represented them by a horse's behind.  

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    Why am I agreeing with Kristol? (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by rooge04 on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:50:33 PM EST
    Sigh.  Only the Republicans see Obama without the rose-colored glasses.

    I'm watching nothing (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by andgarden on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:53:25 PM EST
    But I sure wish I had my own version of John King's big touchscreen.

    you get something close to that ... (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by Robot Porter on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:56:52 PM EST
    at cnn.com.

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    Yup (none / 0) (#18)
    by andgarden on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:57:21 PM EST
    I love the way they display county results there.

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    If it is a big night for Hillary . . . . (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Terry M on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:55:34 PM EST
    and please Lord, let it be so, I'll tune to MSNBC to watch the wailing and gnashing of teeth.  Schadenfreude, I know.  I can't help it.  KO is the biggest HA by far - pompous and self-rightous, without any reason for being so; kinda reminds of a certain presidential candidate I know who likes to vote "present" and eat waffles.

    Donna Brazile is the second biggest HA.  What a disaster she is for the Democratic Party.  Why anybody listens to a word she says is a mystery to me.

    I wish I didn't care so much - I'm not getting any work done at the office and my house is a wreck!

    Donna (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by AnninCA on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:07:33 PM EST
    is a loose cannon.  Her remarks have been so out of line.

    She recently accused Hillary supporters of hurting their candidate because we protested too much.

    I was astounded by the audacity of that remark.

    Then her latest....

    She's just way out of line.

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    Donna 'Namer to be Played Later' Brazile (5.00 / 1) (#73)
    by Ellie on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:28:50 PM EST
    Having exceeded every personal worst imaginable as a Dem consultant and TV pundit, her raw incompetence is now rippling beyond personal boundaries and sucking life out of the Dem party.

    Since I didn't post my prediction in time during that fast-filling thread: Part of me -- I think 67% or so -- subconsciously wants Obama to get the nod only so that a horrendous loss now will be an extreme, and long overdue cleansing of the Dems perma-losers. (And a pre-emptive strike on the Noo Roolerz like Kos who are lined up to tank future races.)

     

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    Your internal logic (5.00 / 0) (#109)
    by AnninCA on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:23:51 PM EST
    Makes sense to me.

    I get it.

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    The MSNBoys are exprojecting (none / 0) (#114)
    by vigkat on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:56:09 PM EST
    Grave concern, mixed with great consternation, along with barely disguised disgust and distaste for the monstor that will not die. There was actually talk about the almost impossible challenge of actually sinking that ship. That made them worried and sad. And not a little bit angry.

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    Jack Cafferty (5.00 / 3) (#15)
    by americanincanada on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:55:35 PM EST
    has become almost the worst for me lately.

    I second the emotion. (5.00 / 0) (#30)
    by felizarte on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:05:46 PM EST
    Just listening to him harangue Hillary again.  I immediately switched to SG-1

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    He's always been awful, IMO (none / 0) (#39)
    by sumac on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:09:26 PM EST
    I muted him even when I liked CNN.

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    Donna Brazil (none / 0) (#49)
    by americanincanada on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:15:11 PM EST
    and Jamal as well.

    I can't stand Donna and she is going on and on about what type of win Senator Clinton may claim tonight.

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    Wasn't it Mark Twain who said (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by kmblue on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:01:48 PM EST
    "It is only humans who blush,
    or need to?"

    I beg of you, don't be mean to horsies!   ;)

    That said, I don't watch TV on nights like this.
    I prefer the blissful quiet of my computer.

    Good going! (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by AnninCA on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:06:03 PM EST
    You sound like a seasoned politico.

    Me?  I'm nuts.  LOL*

    I do have shrimp cocktail chilling, a nice bottle of Chardannay, and a bag of popcorn for later.

    I'm set.

    I think I'll watch Katie Couric.  CBS called the race first in Ohio.

    I don't like the (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:09:58 PM EST
    rolly polly guy on CNN ..what's his name...he looks like a smurf.  

    don't go to mydd now (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by Terry M on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:10:28 PM EST
    They have early exit polling which favors BO, but they advise to take the data with caution. Oy vey.

    Gee thanks. That's like my mother telling (5.00 / 0) (#48)
    by Teresa on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:14:40 PM EST
    me when I was little "don't stick your fingers in that fan". To this day, I want to do it to see if the blades will cut my fingers off.

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    They had (5.00 / 0) (#53)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:16:36 PM EST
    Obama winning California.  I saw their numbers, and came back here.

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    Brazile (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by rooge04 on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:13:55 PM EST
    is talking about how Obama has taken punches from Clinton and McCain.  But that he can still totally win.  I wonder who she supports? She is still uncommitted no? What a joke. Now the Obama supporter on the CNN panel is freaking out that they're actually talking about Obama's lack of GE chances.

    Jamal Simmons? (1.00 / 1) (#61)
    by sumac on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:20:06 PM EST
    "there's not a place where Barack Obama's competed in the region in the country where he hasn't won..."

    Hmmm. Really, Jamal?

    (cough) Ohio, Florida (cough)

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    Donna Brazille (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by white n az on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:16:21 PM EST
    on CNN - UGH - says Obama victory because he's gonna bring it in under a 20 point loss

    sheesh

    Seriously? (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by AnninCA on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:18:46 PM EST
    Donna said that?

    OK, that is too nuts for words.

    Out with her and Dean.

    Enuf already.

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    Since when did we start spotting them (5.00 / 1) (#78)
    by nycstray on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:32:28 PM EST
    20pts?! If she get 19 she loses?!

    ARRRRGH.

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    As I said on another thread (none / 0) (#65)
    by litigatormom on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:21:59 PM EST
    "Donna Brazile is a needs to be committed Obama supporter."

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    Where should we have her committed? (none / 0) (#68)
    by jawbone on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:25:56 PM EST
    snark

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    "They're coming to take you away (none / 0) (#108)
    by litigatormom on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:20:20 PM EST
    haha heehee hoho, to the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time, and you'll be glad to see those night young men in their nice white coats, they're coming to take you away...."

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    Wow-even David Brooks says 10 or above (none / 0) (#67)
    by jawbone on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:24:45 PM EST
    great win for Clinton.  He says he's looking to see if Obama can make inroads into the white working class. Suburban areas important.

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    David Brooks is still irrelevant... (none / 0) (#72)
    by white n az on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:28:47 PM EST
    even if you like what he says, it's still David Brooks and it's still irrelevant.

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    Unbelievable -- I'm texting that to the Dems ... (none / 0) (#84)
    by Ellie on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:43:43 PM EST
    ... and notifying them not to expect any future support until Brazile is out of any position of influence. Good grief, she stinks at everything she does.

    Disclaimer: I switched to Indy after '04 in protest of an early concession from Kerry, though was active as a Dem supporter in '06 to take back Congress, which did SFA since so I'm guiltlessly Independent now. I do support individual worthy Liberal candidates though.

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    I nominate Chris Matthews for this performance (5.00 / 1) (#74)
    by kempis on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:29:24 PM EST
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/22/chris-matthews-the-media_n_98086.html

    I honestly can't watch television because Russert, Olbamaman, and Tweety disgust me on MSNBC--and CNN has Bill Bennett and Donna Brazille on its panel, so that rules CNN out.

    So I came here, out of consideration for my blood pressure.

    (I truly appreciate this place, by the way. I've only recently discovered it, and I'm glad I did.)

    Amen (none / 0) (#76)
    by Terry M on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:32:07 PM EST
    No TV for me until I know it is in the bag. My nerves can't take the Obamabots at MSNBC and CNN. I appreciate everyone at TL keeping us scaredy-cats informed as to what the fools are saying.

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    Unbelievably (none / 0) (#105)
    by Lil on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:15:15 PM EST
    I even tried Fox, gag. When Rove started talking I just couldn't do it, so I'm back to CNN, but barely and cursing every other second.

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    CNN commentators laughed... (5.00 / 2) (#81)
    by Dawn Davenport on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:40:29 PM EST
    ...when Dobbs intro'd Brazile as "undecided," heh.

    Donna Brazille on CNN just now (5.00 / 1) (#83)
    by Makarov on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:41:48 PM EST
    Said she'd already made up her mind, but the remaining contests are important (she only mentioned NC, IN, and OR specifically).  Tell us something we don't know Donna...

    I'm shocked, I say, shocked (none / 0) (#91)
    by Cream City on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:52:46 PM EST
    at the very thought that Brazile has made up her useless mind.  Who knew?

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    MSNBC: why can't he win? (5.00 / 1) (#89)
    by waldenpond on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:50:08 PM EST
    Joe Scarborough, if Clinton wins by 5,6 7 pts, why can't he win?  He can't close the deal in the really big races.  Superdeez are going to have to look at this. Harold you did it, how does he do it?

    Harold Ford... get in with the people, understand how they live. Problem when it becomes about the individual not the people.  (connecting with blue collar workers.)

    Would be a nice clip to get for discussion.

    Russert's now blaming Obama's loss... (none / 0) (#92)
    by Dawn Davenport on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:53:55 PM EST
    ...on the White Woman Problem.

    And how Obama is convinced they'll transition to him if he's the nominee.

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    Wimmin' for VP (none / 0) (#99)
    by waldenpond on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:58:58 PM EST
    uh yup...... shood he git a wimmin' on the tiket.  duya tink that'll fuul em'?

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    Russert Exclusive: White Man's Burden Now A Chick! (none / 0) (#103)
    by Ellie on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:06:36 PM EST
    I want to turn that into a demographic.

    C'mon people, let's make "Problematic White Woman" have as much pull as NASCAR Dad!

    We can do it! YES WE CAN!

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    Omg, KO wonders why not any woman? (5.00 / 1) (#93)
    by Cream City on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:55:57 PM EST
    Why not Obama just pick any woman for a VP to win back Clinton's base, those "white women"?  Russert thinks it's a "great idea."

    These guys really do think women are just interchangeable body parts.  

    All together now, to the tune of the great country song: Mothers, don't let your daughters date MSNBC commentators. . . .

    The MSNBC guys... (5.00 / 1) (#97)
    by Dawn Davenport on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:58:06 PM EST
    ...have created their narrative as "How come that bag won't drop out and let Obama get his win?"

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    exactly (none / 0) (#113)
    by kempis on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:40:27 PM EST
    They're really brazen with it, and it's not just Olbermann and Tweety but also Russert and Andrea Mitchell. I'm actually embarrassed for these people, especially Russert and Mitchell, who really ought to know better than to crawl into the sandbox with Tweety and Olbermann.

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    Heh (none / 0) (#101)
    by chrisvee on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:02:50 PM EST
    Yeah, I hope Senator Obama announces right now that he's picked a woman other than Senato Clinton as his VP.  Let's see how that plays with all those obstinate older white women. I'm sure it will smooth  everything over.

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    I'd like to know (5.00 / 0) (#102)
    by djcny on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:03:33 PM EST
    what some of the other pro-Hillary sites are...  or at least ones that are fair-minded. I haven't found any besides this one.

    Got 'em (none / 0) (#112)
    by djcny on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:40:26 PM EST
    Thank a lot. ;)

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    Olbermann biggest A**H*** (5.00 / 1) (#116)
    by g8grl on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:50:00 PM EST
    Clinton's victory speech was perfect, evenhanded, even somewhat subdued and OlberAs* actually had the nerve to say the she mocked Obama by co-opting his words with "Yes She Will".  

    Jeralyn (none / 0) (#5)
    by litigatormom on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:48:07 PM EST
    Personally, I don't think you can count out Keith Olbermann, despite his surprisingly substantive interview of Hillary Clinton last night.  But wait, Keith Olbermann has read a quote from Obama in which he apparently said that if Clinton gets 50% plus 1, Clinton wins, challenging an Obama surrogate to agree.

    So maybe I have to give Chris Matthews some more consideration. He's the Old Reliable.

    Also keep an eye on newcomer Tony Snowjob Snow on Faux News. His unique combination of skills as Faux analyst and White House Mendacity Secretary could put him out front despite his late start in the primaries.

    Heard Snow was taken to the hospital (5.00 / 3) (#19)
    by riddlerandy on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:58:08 PM EST
    earlier today, so I would not look for him tonight

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    Oh dear (5.00 / 2) (#24)
    by litigatormom on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:02:27 PM EST
    Now I feel bad.

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    That's sad. (5.00 / 2) (#26)
    by kmblue on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:03:14 PM EST
    I don't like Snow, but he's had a horrible
    battle against cancer.

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    What I liked best (3.00 / 2) (#54)
    by ghost2 on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:17:20 PM EST
    Keith asked Clinton, "Senator, is any critism of you evidence of sexism?"  yeah, way to phrase a question...

    Senator Clinton (lets out her lovely cackle):  

    The historic nature of the campaign is causing a lot of cognitive dissonance among so many people, Keith, and few of them are in the media, I believe.

    Keith, in case you were too dense to get it, she was talking about YOU.  

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    Tony Snow's on CNN now, I b'lieve (none / 0) (#8)
    by Cream City on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:49:47 PM EST
    and btw, he was at CNN before he went to Faux.

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    I think you are right about Snow (none / 0) (#10)
    by litigatormom on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:51:03 PM EST
    now being on CNN (my bad), but before he became an in-house shill for Bush, he was a private contractor on Faux

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    Yep, Tony's at CNN (none / 0) (#82)
    by BDB on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:40:38 PM EST
    Because when CNN looked at its line-up of Borger, Bernstein, Bennett, and Brown, they decided they needed someone completely different.  Someone whose name started with an S.

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    KO definitely (none / 0) (#43)
    by boredmpa on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:12:35 PM EST
    You don't run a four+ minute fan clip that's mostly one sided after interviewing someone (the baracky vid).  I didn't watch the show, but I saw it on his site as the number one thing for countdown (i never watch his show).

    It's basically a cheap way to have someone else take the shots for you.

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    Stay away from CNN (none / 0) (#11)
    by waldenpond on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:51:25 PM EST
    CNN - Jack Cafferty reading a comment... Clinton is behind in every statistic except number of pantsuits... Boo!

    MSNBC - Clinton Bosnia.... Boo!

    Fox - frak!  It's Cheney.  Run!

    I've been protesting CNN (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by sumac on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:58:55 PM EST
    both their website and their cable "news." Indeed, it was my growing disgust with CNN which led me to TL a couple of months back.

    I am watching CNN now and fighting back bile and foul language.

    Wanted to scream when the 3 talking heads made much ado about how Hillary had not been promoting unity and her support of Obama earlier. No one asked about Obama ever saying he would support Hillary if she were the nominee. Just smug agreement that she is SO negative. Bleh.

    But I can't help myself. This (PA) is too big to ignore.

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    Noron O'Donnell (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by litigatormom on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:03:36 PM EST
    has just explained that PA voters strongly believe that Clinton is more unfair to Obama than Obama is to Clinton.

    Tweety is now ringing the fire alarm for Democrats and predicting that Republicans feel they can win PA in the fall.

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    What was that? (5.00 / 0) (#75)
    by Dave Latchaw on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:31:07 PM EST
    I couldn't hear anything she was saying cuz I was so blown away by that outfit she's wearing.

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    MSNBC (5.00 / 0) (#80)
    by chrisvee on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:37:25 PM EST
    The talking heads on MSNBC can't figure out why she's winning when she has such high negatives.  David Gregory proposed that Obama's not acting like a frontrunner because he's a 'victim' (citig the 'unfair' numbers).

    Rachel Maddow may be getting my vote tonight. It's as if she's decided on a narrative (PA doesn't matter to the outcome of the primary) and she's going to shoehorn every fact to fit it.

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    On the upside, Afternoon Joe (5.00 / 0) (#86)
    by Cream City on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:49:03 PM EST
    Scarborough is just grilling, grilling, grilling Harold Ford about why Obama can't close it, can't get crucial big blue states, what do you say to super-delegates saying "whadda we gonna do with a guy who can't do the basics," etc.  Ford tried to get out of it twice, and Joe came right back at him again, 'til Ford finally admitted that it's a concern.

    Joe also sez all Clinton has to win is a margin over 5% for the super-d's to worry about whether Obama can win.

    And what helps is that KO and Tweets actually shut up when Joe talks and let him finish a thought, even let him go after a guest again and again until the guest answers a question . . . which is the reason for the guest being on at all.

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    Heh (5.00 / 0) (#96)
    by chrisvee on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:57:15 PM EST
    I saw that and thought how strange my world has become that I was actually watching Joe Scar and thinking positively about his reportorial skills.

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    It's Bizarro Punditry (none / 0) (#110)
    by litigatormom on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:27:00 PM EST
    Me Democrat, me feminist, me am thinking Joe Scarborough am less sexist than Keith Olbermann. Me am confused. Keith Olbermann am telling me he am progressive, but he am friends with Chris Matthews and they am trying to think how Hillary victory am defeat.

    Me am not understanding why here on Round Earth pundits am not not talking about what they am knowing, and am instead talking about they am wishing for.

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    I thought it was a mildly funny comment... (none / 0) (#28)
    by white n az on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:05:20 PM EST
    that he read there...but he read comments from all sides so there's nothing really to complain about so far on CNN

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    He was citing national polls (none / 0) (#60)
    by felizarte on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:18:54 PM EST
    their exit polling must be awfully good for Hillary. It's the only thing that can explain their general bad mood and nasty POV in covering this election.  Can't wait for the actual numbers to be reported--in about 45 minutes.

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    Begala's almost bouncing in his chair (none / 0) (#87)
    by Cream City on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:49:49 PM EST
    so I think he sees an exciting story tonight. :-)

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    I'll be walking the dog in a minute and then (none / 0) (#23)
    by nycstray on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:01:57 PM EST
    AI/DWTS. I may check in on occasion, but why put myself through the idiots when they will just be killing time until they call the race?

    Ok, that's the plan, let's see how I do . . .

    No TV right now (none / 0) (#25)
    by spit on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:02:58 PM EST
    we got rid of it (because it was a piece o' dung, not out of any  particular principle). Haven't afforded a new one yet, it's not exactly a priority.

    I could watch stuff on our roommate's, but that's always sort of awkward when she's not home. Anyway, I never feel that I'm missing much, honestly. I prefer the authentic equine buttocks to the human-shaped variety.

    Hmmm ... (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by Robot Porter on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:08:14 PM EST
    I prefer the authentic equine buttocks to the human-shaped variety.

    And you're not afraid to admit it publicly!

    ;)

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    Hah (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by spit on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:11:16 PM EST
    that does read exceptionally funny, now that I look at it.

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    CNN was quoting some scary numbers... (none / 0) (#33)
    by white n az on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:08:03 PM EST
    in the exit polls...

    like 33% of Obama supporters not voting for Clinton if she should prevail

    like 33% of Clinton supporters not voting for Obama if he should prevail

    those be some scary numbers of fracture...

    and Gloria, ever striving to become relevant suggests that the longer this drags on, the worse it gets

    sorry it was 50% (none / 0) (#58)
    by white n az on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:18:47 PM EST
    nearly 50% of Clinton voters would not vote for Obama per the exit poll CNN was quoting...it was a VERY big number

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    sounds right to me. (none / 0) (#66)
    by felizarte on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:22:02 PM EST
    If Hillary surpasses Obama's popular vote even without Mi and Fla; comes to within 50 points of pledged delegates without Mi and Fla. then the DNC better seat Mi and Fla or the supers vote Hillary.  Otherwise, this 50% of Hillary voters will be a reality for McCain.

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    Nora O'Donnell (none / 0) (#35)
    by bjorn on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:09:02 PM EST
    was breathless when talking about how African Americans hated Clinton's negativity.  I take this as a sign it will be close.  She is usually fairly objective, but she pused the point pretty hard....sighs.

    Noron O'Donnell, (5.00 / 2) (#56)
    by litigatormom on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:18:43 PM EST
    objective?  I always find her breathless, and she's generally pretty hard on Clinton.

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    Yes she has had a swig of the koolaid. (5.00 / 1) (#79)
    by Maria Garcia on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:37:16 PM EST


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    Rendell is so much smarter than Tweety (none / 0) (#44)
    by Salt on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:12:57 PM EST
    Chris should give up.

    Rendell is the best! Tweety is (none / 0) (#59)
    by Joan in VA on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:18:50 PM EST
    almost speechless.

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    NewsHour has Obama taking ?s from press (none / 0) (#46)
    by jawbone on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:13:58 PM EST
    at diner this morning. Obama saying Rendell will work just as hard for him as he worked for Hillary. I came in a bit late on this.

    Hillary video talking about party unity==must have Dem in WH.

    She says any diffs between herself and Obama pale compared to contrasts with McSame, who is a good senator, but his plans for the nation are wrong.

    Goes into financial advantage of Obama--why can't he close. Big state argument.

    I'm sitting here in South Jersey (none / 0) (#47)
    by Janet on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:14:38 PM EST
    Watching about two minutes of CNN, MSNBC and Fox. So far Fox is easier to handle. Just talked to a friend in Pittsburgh and the feeling there is she wins big with the white vote.

    Bill Bennett (none / 0) (#50)
    by americanincanada on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:15:23 PM EST
    Grrrrr.

    Bill Bennet and Donna Brazille (none / 0) (#55)
    by white n az on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:17:52 PM EST
    what a great pair assignment...

    I'm not sure who they want to quit...the talking heads or the viewers?

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    Has anyone ever wondered (none / 0) (#64)
    by litigatormom on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:21:16 PM EST
    whether there is a textual basis for implying an exception to the First Amendment deprive  Bill Bennett from ever being on my teevee ever again?

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    Cruel and unusual punishment (none / 0) (#98)
    by badger on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:58:17 PM EST
    certainly should apply watching to Bennett, and Brazile as well.

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    Ahh....I agree with Bennett? (none / 0) (#52)
    by Stellaaa on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:16:24 PM EST
    I am useless...he just said:  Hillary did not ding him, he did it to himself.  

    two saying pretty much can summarize this... (5.00 / 2) (#62)
    by white n az on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:20:23 PM EST
    A broken clock has the right time twice each day...

    Even a blind squirrel will find an acorn now and then...

    take your pick

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    Whoopeee - skating and skiing now avail. in Hell! (none / 0) (#88)
    by Ellie on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:49:57 PM EST
    Yayyyyy! That afterlife retirement condo I had waiting for me might not be so bad after all.

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    Currently I am sitting watching an entire (none / 0) (#63)
    by athyrio on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:20:27 PM EST
    pasture full of the real equines, so I won't denegrate them by comparing them to those fools on tv....I much prefer the real thing....Go Hillary!!!

    Brooks--Clinton by less than 5 will mean Dean (none / 0) (#69)
    by jawbone on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:27:55 PM EST
    pushes SD's to make up their minds earlier.

    Brooks saying Obama has gone more neg, (none / 0) (#71)
    by jawbone on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:28:47 PM EST
    much more "just a politician" this past week.

    Noticeably so, but even to voters?

    Confession (none / 0) (#77)
    by AnninCA on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:32:22 PM EST
    I haven't watched any of the political pundits this season.

    They just don't move me.  They all sound so "out there" that I get too uncomfortable.

    I don't track with 90% of the posts about who said what about whom.

    I watch Monk.  :)

    I like Monk.  I relate.  

    I am a big reader.  Hope that counts.  I read all the major editorials daily.

    So I'm not entirely out of it.

    But these TV screamers?

    I cannot abide listening to them.

    Scarborough (none / 0) (#90)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:51:29 PM EST
    was saying, if Obama doesn't win, with spending a wad of cash, people will start wondering WHY!?

    Olbermann came in all PO'ed, "but Obama keeps going up in the polls and Hillary goes down!"

    BUT Mr. Obamaman, the point is, your guy doesn't close the deal in time.

    And if he does go up in polls, maybe it's the blanketads, and not the candidate, hmmm?

    "white women are the problem" (5.00 / 1) (#94)
    by boredmpa on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:56:00 PM EST
    o m g. "they want the historic woman candidate" do they not understand how huge a double standard this has been.  Can you imagine them saying for clinton: "black folks are the problem, clinton has to close the gap but they want to vote for a first black candidate."

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    White women a problem (none / 0) (#95)
    by waldenpond on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:56:57 PM EST
    KO and Pumpkin head... if Obama was white, this would not be an issue.  White wimmin' are preventing Obama from bringing this to closure.  Women want to break that ceiling, they believe in her.

    KO thinks Obama should ge another woman?! Ha! Ha!
    They are discussing who Obama's VP will be and how he gets the wimmin' vote.

    Tweety thinks Clinton is getting in his way? pfft

    Live feed from MS NBC (none / 0) (#100)
    by boredmpa on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:59:05 PM EST
    Goes to commercial and shows a windows screen.

    "This copy of MS Windows is not Genuine"

    Classic!

    I suggest BO phone Gerry Ferraro (none / 0) (#104)
    by Terry M on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:08:53 PM EST
    and see if she'd have any suggestions for a women VP.  

    Holy Cow! Is ANYONE at MSBNC not for Obama? (none / 0) (#111)
    by kempis on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:37:23 PM EST
    Wow....Andrea Mitchell, Tweety, Olbamaman, all those people are totally pushing the argument that Hillary needs to fold up her tent, while they wait to find out by how much she won Pennsylvania.

    According to MSNBC, PA really doesn't matter. It's just another opportunity for them to advocate for an Obama nomination and tear down Clinton.

    Really amazing. I mean, they've been awful for a long while now, but they're way deep into FoxNews 04 territory in the land of unabashed bias.

    Hillary Wins! (none / 0) (#115)
    by AnninCA on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:22:23 PM EST
    I'm on PBS.  It's over.

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