Obama isn't going to piss off the establishment.

Hillary will take them on.

Obama is weak and afraid to take on Fox...who knew?

Obama doesn't strike me as capable of beating McCain but hey, what do I know...I drink Coke®

His feet of clay are one thing but I am totally bothered by his careful, stilting speech pattern.

Past behavior is a pretty good predictor of future behavior. Maybe some of us just aren't old enough to know that.

lambert at correntewire (0.00 / 0)
has been running a nutsoid vendetta against Obama that has driven several other founders of the blog away and has involved such laughable moments as a claim that the use of the word "cling" by Obama indicated disrespect (eyes roll!). He's about as perspicacious an analyst of this race as Scaife - who wrote an editorial that could easily have run in Correntewire.
by: rootless2 @ Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 19:19:09 PM CDT
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I am cancelling my subscription, and telling them that their total abandonment of objectivity renders the entire content of the magazine suspect.

I just plain do not trust them.  Propaganda is propaganda - and is not rendered credible just because it comes from someone or some entity on the same end of the political spectrum I'm on.

Here's the deal with me: just give me information, please.  I am smart enough to take it in, process it, and form an opinion.  The more information you give me, the better.  Don't be afraid to tell me stuff I might not like - I can deal with it.  But when you leave out facts, when it's all opinion, I no longer trust you as a source of info.  When the lefty blogs - and they know who they are - stopped all pretense of objectivity, when they stopped holding all parties to the same standard, they lost me - probably for good.

Stoller is right. HIllary tells you who she is: A little right, a little left, sometimes in the middle.

But, that was a transformational interview, more and more politicos challenged the right-wing media after that. And, I dare say, the blogosphere's widespread call for a boycott of Fox followed Clinton's combative appearance on Fox.

A lot of Hillary's supporters now only watch Fox because they think all the other stations have a pro-Obama bias. They want talk of flag-pins, Rezco, and wright 23/7 so that's where they go.   Go check out the mydd diaries if you don't believe me. Hillary has made multiple appearances on Fox and the station has been much harsher on him than on her.  The reason he went on fox seems obvious.  It's the only way to reach that particular segment of the democratic electorate.

How in hades did I miss THAT along the way?

What kind of Democrat with a law degree votes for 'tort reform?'

Progressive?  Liberal?

It was a mistake for us to endorse Obama, just as it was a mistake for us to do nothing against Clinton after she accused Moveon of intimating her supporters at caucuses.  We should be stuffing ads discussing her Bosnia sniper fire in Indiana.  But we don't believe in standing up for ourselves.

Could someone please provide me with the W.S.R.M?  He's more convoluted than his once-hereo.

Now, if Obama ends up staggering across the finish line, will liberals -- the word "progressive" is contaminated for me by the misogny of the Boiz -- have any leverage in the general, or after?

Of course not. Because Obama will tack even farther away from the base.

I will not watch it for more than thirty seconds.

But this after Obama was interviewed.

    1.    Impossible for a Republican to win the Presidency.
    2.    No party has ever had a President with such poor favorability numbers and survived to win elections-look at 2006.
    3.    The American people nor longer believe in the Iraq war. That war is an anchor around Republican necks.
    4.    The American people know we won in Afghanistan-and now we are losing.  The Republicans Iraq craziness has snatched defeat in Afghanistan from the jaws of victory.
    5.    The economy is tanking (only question is--is this going to be just a recession or will it be something worse).
    6.    The budget has gone from a surplus to a deficit.
    7.    American money has little value. It has become a laughing stock of the world.

I refuse to listen to another word by him, he sickens me.

And I find Obama to be very much like Wright.  His 20 years of listening to that garbage rubbed off on him and they think alike and promote division and their own kind of attack plan.

Science and truth be dammed, they got a scheme.

Those interviews will help furnish the new cushy mansion, that's what it is all about.  That and his freaking incredible ego and revolutionism.

Wright and Obama are dangerous shams and liars, who have caused democrats, christians, race relations and unity to be viewed in a bad light.

I have thoroughly enjoyed this year's primary precisely because blogs offered an outlet for my own thinking.  And I've changed my mind on more than a few ideas.  I definitely have outgrown some old thinking along the way.

The rigidity of the idealist bloggers seems to me to be expected.  

The deterioration of some blog sites from a clever Drudge-like format into sheer bad information site seems inevitable.

And the emergence of blog sites which stay on message and value open debate while keeping an eye on true trolling seem to me to be the way of the future.

The issue brought up in this post has been noticeable to me from Day 1 about Obama supporters.  It wasn't too far away from the truth to call them kool-aid drinkers.  There were a huge number of very young and idealistic bloggers who honestly didn't know he was a real politician.  :)

So they have had to go through a steep learning curve.